Re: [gmx-users] Martini Coarse Graining Segmentation Fault using g_fg2cg

2010-01-29 Thread rasoul nasiri
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Emanuel Peter 
emanuel.pe...@chemie.uni-regensburg.de wrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users,

 I have performed the Martini Coarse Graining procedure for the
 simulation of two protein domains by using the two scripts atom2cg.awk
 and seq2itp.pl. Then I was able to perform my simulation of my coarse
 grained system. My problem is now to convert my final cg structure into
 an all atom structure. For this purpose I tried to use the tool g_fg2cg
 with the inputs containing my fine grained topology ,the coarse grained
 topology and my coarse grained structure file. But obviously all
 attempts to apply that tool ended up in a segmentation fault message. I
 also tried to convert my all atom structure into a cg structure which
 ended up with the same segmentation fault message. Could you give me
 some advice on that problem? Here is my screen output:
  Option Filename  Type Description
 
 -pfg LOV1_LOV2.pdb.top  InputTopology file
 -pcg martini_v2.0_example.top  Input, Opt!  Topology file
  -c lov1lov2_42ns_27.1.pdb  InputGeneric trajectory: xtc trr
 trj gro
   g96 pdb
  -oout.gro  Output   Generic structure: gro g96 pdb xml

  Option   Type  Value  Description
 --
  -[no]h   bool no  Print help info and quit
   -niceint  0  Set the nicelevel
  -nint  0  1: fg2cg transformation, 0: cg2fg
 transformation
-watint  0  1: rewrites FG_CG water to true fg water;
-rad   real0.3  A radius for random atom insertion;

 calling cpp...
 processing topology...
 Generated 279 of the 1225 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Excluding 3 bonded neighbours for Protein_A 1
 Excluding 3 bonded neighbours for Protein_B 1
 NOTE:
  System has non-zero total charge: -2.98e+00

 #   G96BONDS:   2738
 #  G96ANGLES:   3994
 #  PDIHS:   1465
 #  IDIHS:   1328
 #   LJ14:   4520
 calling cpp...
 processing topology...
 Generated 0 of the 465 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Excluding 1 bonded neighbours for Protein 1
 Excluding 1 bonded neighbours for ProteinB 1
 NOTE:
  System has non-zero total charge: -6.00e+00


 Number of fg atoms 2696
 Number of cg atoms 571
 Reading frame   0 time 42000.004   1264673691
 Segmentation fault

 When I applied this tool on the ubiquitin example I had another problem,
 but I did it in the same way as before. Here is the screen output:

 Option Filename  Type Description
 
 -pfg   1ubq.top  InputTopology file
 -pcg   out3.top  Input, Opt!  Topology file
  -c   1UBQ.gro  InputGeneric trajectory: xtc trr trj gro
 g96 pdb
  -oout.gro  Output   Generic structure: gro g96 pdb xml

  Option   Type  Value  Description
 --
  -[no]h   bool no  Print help info and quit
   -niceint  0  Set the nicelevel
  -nint  1  1: fg2cg transformation, 0: cg2fg
 transformation
-watint  0  1: rewrites FG_CG water to true fg water;
-rad   real0.3  A radius for random atom insertion;

 calling cpp...
 processing topology...
 Generated 279 of the 1225 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Excluding 3 bonded neighbours for Protein_A 1
 Excluding 2 bonded neighbours for SOL 58
 #   G96BONDS:   766
 #  G96ANGLES:   1107
 #  PDIHS:   428
 #  IDIHS:   334
 #   LJ14:   1304
 # SETTLE:   58
 calling cpp...
 cpp: out3.top: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
 cpp: warning: '-x c' after last input file has no effect
 cpp: no input files
 cpp exit code: 256
 Tried to execute: 'cpp
 -I/pc50417/pee18323/REVERSE_trans_gromacs/agromacs-reverse/share/top
 out3.top  grompp605Sk3'
 The 'cpp' command is defined in the .mdp file
 processing topology...

 Number of fg atoms 934
 Number of cg atoms 0
 Reading frames from gro file 'UBIQUITIN', 934 atoms.
 Reading frame   0 time0.000   out.xtc
 Last frame  0 time0.000

 Back Off! I just backed up out.gro to ./#out.gro.2#

 Cg structure computed !

 In that case out.gro did not contain any atoms.

 Thanks for any suggestions!

 Best regards,

 Emanuel Peter


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[gmx-users] Re: including a custom itp file in topology

2010-01-29 Thread Alan
Hi Jack,

Look, if I understand well, what you want is to be able to something like
tleap does for amber, where you load all the libs you need, including the
ones you created for your ligand(s), and then generate the MD input files at
once needing just the complexed pdb or mol2 as input.

For pdb2gmx to do the same, you would need to tweak the files
/gromacs/top/ffamber99sb.rtp, hdb etc., which I once considered doing
that for acpypi but then it would add much more complexity for no much gain.

What I hope is for the new *pdb2gmx* (gmx 4.1 maybe? or only for gmx 5.0?)
to feature, among other things, this capability as you requested.

Cheers,
Alan

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:13, Jack Shultz j...@drugdiscoveryathome.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I was trying to figure out if there is a short-cut for what I'm doing. I
 have complexes that I'm trying to prep using pdb2gmx. The ligand does not
 have a standard residue name. The way I know this can work is seperating out
 the ligand and protein into seperate files and preping the ligand using
 acpypi and the protein using pdb2gmx. Then incorporating them into a single
 pdb complex and including a reference to the ligand.itp (generated by
 acpypi) into a complex topology file. Is there any shortcut to doing this?
 any way to reference the ligand's itp file when running pdb2gmx?

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RE: [gmx-users] Re: including a custom itp file in topology

2010-01-29 Thread Berk Hess

Hi,

I don't understand exactly what is the requested feature here.
I am currently reorganizing the force field setup in Gromacs to more cleanly 
support AMBER and CHARMM
and adding some extra functionality. I started a discussion on the 
gmx-developers list on this topic.
On feature I have added is that rtp, hdb, etc files no longer have fixed names 
and you can have multiple
of them. So you can just put, e.g., a file called ligand.itp in your force 
field or current dir and pdb2gmx
will read it.

Berk

From: alanwil...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:20:31 +
To: j...@drugdiscoveryathome.com
CC: gmx-users@gromacs.org; a...@drugdiscoveryathome.com
Subject: [gmx-users] Re: including a custom itp file in topology

Hi Jack,
Look, if I understand well, what you want is to be able to something like tleap 
does for amber, where you load all the libs you need, including the ones you 
created for your ligand(s), and then generate the MD input files at once 
needing just the complexed pdb or mol2 as input.


For pdb2gmx to do the same, you would need to tweak the files 
/gromacs/top/ffamber99sb.rtp, hdb etc., which I once considered doing that 
for acpypi but then it would add much more complexity for no much gain.


What I hope is for the new *pdb2gmx* (gmx 4.1 maybe? or only for gmx 5.0?) to 
feature, among other things, this capability as you requested.
Cheers,Alan



On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 17:13, Jack Shultz j...@drugdiscoveryathome.com wrote:


Hi,
 
I was trying to figure out if there is a short-cut for what I'm doing. I have 
complexes that I'm trying to prep using pdb2gmx. The ligand does not have a 
standard residue name. The way I know this can work is seperating out the 
ligand and protein into seperate files and preping the ligand using acpypi and 
the protein using pdb2gmx. Then incorporating them into a single pdb complex 
and including a reference to the ligand.itp (generated by acpypi) into a 
complex topology file. Is there any shortcut to doing this? any way to 
reference the ligand's itp file when running pdb2gmx?



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[gmx-users] Re: including a custom itp file in topology

2010-01-29 Thread Alan
Hi Berk,

If pdb2gmx will do what you said below, then for me the feature is
delivered.

To be sure, what I would like to have (and I guess Jack too) is:

- one has a pdb with protetin + ligands (one or more)
- have the topologies itp files for the ligands already created
- run pdb2gmx on complex.pdb and have pdb2gmx to *know* about the ligands
and generated the respective top and gro files ready for EM and MD.

It is that what I understood Jack wants and what you said you have added to
the coming pdb2gmx (for gmx 4.1?).

Many thanks,

Alan

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 09:28, gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org wrote:

  From: Berk Hess g...@hotmail.com

 Hi,

 I don't understand exactly what is the requested feature here.
 I am currently reorganizing the force field setup in Gromacs to more
 cleanly support AMBER and CHARMM
 and adding some extra functionality. I started a discussion on the
 gmx-developers list on this topic.
 On feature I have added is that rtp, hdb, etc files no longer have fixed
 names and you can have multiple
 of them. So you can just put, e.g., a file called ligand.itp in your force
 field or current dir and pdb2gmx
 will read it.

 Berk




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[gmx-users] Structure deformation

2010-01-29 Thread Carla Jamous
Hi everyone,
I have a question about structure deformation
Can pdb2gmx alter secondary structures of my protein, while adding
hydrogens. Because I had a helix in my protein, that became a beta-sheet
after pdb2gmx.
What may be the problem?

Thank you
Carla
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[gmx-users] Re: including a custom itp file in topology

2010-01-29 Thread Alan
Dear Berk,

I beg your pardon, but I have to assume that what you wrote below is not
correct so, right?

Should it be 'ligand.rtp' instead of 'ligand.itp'?

Once I have my hands on this new pdb2gmx, I believe I can tweak acpypi to
generate rtp files as well (but hdb and else probably not).

Cheers,
Alan

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:00, gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org wrote:

  of them. So you can just put, e.g., a file called ligand.itp in your
 force
  field or current dir and pdb2gmx
  will read it.




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Re: [gmx-users] Structure deformation

2010-01-29 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Carla Jamous wrote:

Hi everyone,
I have a question about structure deformation
Can pdb2gmx alter secondary structures of my protein, while adding 
hydrogens. Because I had a helix in my protein, that became a beta-sheet 
after pdb2gmx.


Sorry to say, but this sounds completely unlikely.  A bug of this magnitude 
surely would've been noticed long ago.



What may be the problem?



Are you certain you're looking at the same residues?  pdb2gmx renumbers from 1, 
so if there are missing N-terminal residues, they will not have the same numbers 
 before and after pdb2gmx.


-Justin


Thank you
Carla



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: including a custom itp file in topology

2010-01-29 Thread Jack Shultz
I confess I don't know the difference between rtp and itp. What I was hoping
was an easier way to generate topologies for complexes that have
non-standard residue names like LIG. Alan's acpypi works. You just have to
do some extra scripting. But it seems like pdb2gmx should have a way to load
the files describing the non-standard residue names directly.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Alan alanwil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Berk,

 I beg your pardon, but I have to assume that what you wrote below is not
 correct so, right?

 Should it be 'ligand.rtp' instead of 'ligand.itp'?

 Once I have my hands on this new pdb2gmx, I believe I can tweak acpypi to
 generate rtp files as well (but hdb and else probably not).

 Cheers,
 Alan


 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:00, gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org wrote:

  of them. So you can just put, e.g., a file called ligand.itp in your
 force
  field or current dir and pdb2gmx
  will read it.




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[gmx-users] RE: xmgrace

2010-01-29 Thread bharat gupta
Hi all,

I have recently started working with GROMACS , and I am not able to
find xmgrace in GROMACS folder . Do I have to download the file
separately ??

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[gmx-users] RE: xmgrace

2010-01-29 Thread bharat gupta
Hi all,

I have recently started working with GROMACS , and I am not able to
find xmgrace in GROMACS folder . Do I have to download the file
separately ??

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Re: [gmx-users] RE: xmgrace

2010-01-29 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



bharat gupta wrote:

Hi all,

I have recently started working with GROMACS , and I am not able to
find xmgrace in GROMACS folder . Do I have to download the file
separately ??


Yes, it is a separate program.  Search Google.

-Justin



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Re: [gmx-users] Structure deformation

2010-01-29 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Carla Jamous wrote:

Thank you Justin,
you were right I was looking at the wrong residue numbers.

I have another question that may also sound stupid, but I can't figure 
it out:

I want to extract from my trajectory, the protein, the ligand and ions.
However, when I try to do that with trjconv -f .trr -s .trr -n .ndx
gromacs asks to choose a group from my index file.
But if I choose group 0 1 2
it only takes the first group without the rest.
So how can I extract many groups at once from my trajectory?


Use make_ndx to merge the desired groups (i.e., 0 | 1 | 2) or simply !12 
(assuming group 12 is SOL).


-Justin



Carla

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




Carla Jamous wrote:

Hi everyone,
I have a question about structure deformation
Can pdb2gmx alter secondary structures of my protein, while
adding hydrogens. Because I had a helix in my protein, that
became a beta-sheet after pdb2gmx.


Sorry to say, but this sounds completely unlikely.  A bug of this
magnitude surely would've been noticed long ago.


What may be the problem?


Are you certain you're looking at the same residues?  pdb2gmx
renumbers from 1, so if there are missing N-terminal residues, they
will not have the same numbers  before and after pdb2gmx.

-Justin

Thank you
Carla


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Re: [gmx-users] Structure deformation

2010-01-29 Thread Carla Jamous
Thank you Justin,
you were right I was looking at the wrong residue numbers.

I have another question that may also sound stupid, but I can't figure it
out:
I want to extract from my trajectory, the protein, the ligand and ions.
However, when I try to do that with trjconv -f .trr -s .trr -n .ndx
gromacs asks to choose a group from my index file.
But if I choose group 0 1 2
it only takes the first group without the rest.
So how can I extract many groups at once from my trajectory?

Carla

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Carla Jamous wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 I have a question about structure deformation
 Can pdb2gmx alter secondary structures of my protein, while adding
 hydrogens. Because I had a helix in my protein, that became a beta-sheet
 after pdb2gmx.


 Sorry to say, but this sounds completely unlikely.  A bug of this magnitude
 surely would've been noticed long ago.


  What may be the problem?


 Are you certain you're looking at the same residues?  pdb2gmx renumbers
 from 1, so if there are missing N-terminal residues, they will not have the
 same numbers  before and after pdb2gmx.

 -Justin

  Thank you
 Carla


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 Ph.D. Candidate
 ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
 MILES-IGERT Trainee
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 Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: including a custom itp file in topology

2010-01-29 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi,

rtp stands for 'Residue ToPology' and is used exclusively for building
block definitions, which are only used by pdb2gmx.
itp stands for 'Include ToPology' and can contain any part of a
topological description of a system, atom types, bond types,
moleculetypes, definitions, to be #included at the right point in the
master topology file. It is often used to separate out moleculetype
definitions, but also the top level force field parameters are
contained in a .itp file (ffoplsaa.itp for example).

For non standard residues, the residue has to be defined as a building
block and put in to a .rtp file in order to allow pdb2gmx to process
it. Non-bonded ligands need not be processed by pdb2gmx. With a proper
description in terms of coordinates and [ moleculetype ] (.itp file),
they can be easily merged with coordinates, c.q. topology as produced
by pdb2gmx.

Hope it helps,

Tsjerk

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wrote:
 I confess I don't know the difference between rtp and itp. What I was hoping
 was an easier way to generate topologies for complexes that have
 non-standard residue names like LIG. Alan's acpypi works. You just have to
 do some extra scripting. But it seems like pdb2gmx should have a way to load
 the files describing the non-standard residue names directly.

 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Alan alanwil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Berk,
 I beg your pardon, but I have to assume that what you wrote below is not
 correct so, right?
 Should it be 'ligand.rtp' instead of 'ligand.itp'?
 Once I have my hands on this new pdb2gmx, I believe I can tweak acpypi to
 generate rtp files as well (but hdb and else probably not).
 Cheers,
 Alan

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  force
  field or current dir and pdb2gmx
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Re: [gmx-users] RE: xmgrace

2010-01-29 Thread bharat gupta
Thanks sir

But there is one problem that when I am running the mdrun step of 5th
step of lysozyme tutorial,  I am getting an error :-

Can not open file:
topol.tpr

Can u tell me how to rectify it ..
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Re: [gmx-users] RE: xmgrace

2010-01-29 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



bharat gupta wrote:

Thanks sir

But there is one problem that when I am running the mdrun step of 5th
step of lysozyme tutorial,  I am getting an error :-

Can not open file:
topol.tpr

Can u tell me how to rectify it ..



No, since you haven't provided the command line you're using or what the 
tutorial is expecting you to do.


If this is unrelated to your original post, please start a new thread so the 
archive doesn't get confusing.


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[gmx-users] Plot renumbering

2010-01-29 Thread rituraj purohit
Hello friends,

As Justin replied at carla query about structure deformation after the
pdb2gmx  the new number retain till end.

My PDB starts at 24 to 200 aa, While running xmgrace (after complete
simulation) the rmsd plot is from 1 to 176aa.

I understood by previous mail that gromacs renumbered my pdb file at first
step.
My question is, Is their any way to get plot from 24 to 200 (as entry in
pdb) rather 1 to 174 ?

Regard
Rituraj

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 Thank you Justin,
 you were right I was looking at the wrong residue numbers.

 I have another question that may also sound stupid, but I can't figure it
 out:
 I want to extract from my trajectory, the protein, the ligand and ions.
 However, when I try to do that with trjconv -f .trr -s .trr -n .ndx
 gromacs asks to choose a group from my index file.
 But if I choose group 0 1 2
 it only takes the first group without the rest.
 So how can I extract many groups at once from my trajectory?

 Carla

 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 wrote:

 
 
  Carla Jamous wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
  I have a question about structure deformation
  Can pdb2gmx alter secondary structures of my protein, while adding
  hydrogens. Because I had a helix in my protein, that became a beta-sheet
  after pdb2gmx.
 
 
  Sorry to say, but this sounds completely unlikely.  A bug of this
 magnitude
  surely would've been noticed long ago.
 
 
   What may be the problem?
 
 
  Are you certain you're looking at the same residues?  pdb2gmx renumbers
  from 1, so if there are missing N-terminal residues, they will not have
 the
  same numbers  before and after pdb2gmx.
 
  -Justin
 
   Thank you
  Carla
 
 
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 Carla Jamous wrote:
  Thank you Justin,
  you were right I was looking at the wrong residue numbers.
 
  I have another question that may also sound stupid, but I can't figure
  it out:
  I want to extract from my trajectory, the protein, the ligand and ions.
  However, when I try to do that with trjconv -f .trr -s .trr -n .ndx
  gromacs asks to choose a group from my index file.
  But if I choose group 0 1 2
  it only takes the first group without the rest.
  So how can I extract many groups at once from my trajectory?

 Use make_ndx to merge the desired groups (i.e., 0 | 1 | 2) or simply !12
 (assuming group 12 is SOL).

 -Justin

 
  Carla
 
  On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
  mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 
 
 
  Carla Jamous wrote:
 
  Hi everyone

Re: [gmx-users] Plot renumbering

2010-01-29 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



rituraj purohit wrote:

Hello friends,

As Justin replied at carla query about structure deformation after the 
pdb2gmx  the new number retain till end.


My PDB starts at 24 to 200 aa, While running xmgrace (after complete 
simulation) the rmsd plot is from 1 to 176aa.


I understood by previous mail that gromacs renumbered my pdb file at 
first step.
My question is, Is their any way to get plot from 24 to 200 (as entry in 
pdb) rather 1 to 174 ?


Write a script that renumbers the file - perl, awk, sed, etc.  I think pdb2gmx 
renumbering is being removed in the development code for future versions, FYI.


-Justin



Regard
Rituraj

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Thank you Justin,
you were right I was looking at the wrong residue numbers.

I have another question that may also sound stupid, but I can't
figure it
out:
I want to extract from my trajectory, the protein, the ligand and ions.
However, when I try to do that with trjconv -f .trr -s .trr -n .ndx
gromacs asks to choose a group from my index file.
But if I choose group 0 1 2
it only takes the first group without the rest.
So how can I extract many groups at once from my trajectory?

Carla

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 
 
  Carla Jamous wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
  I have a question about structure deformation
  Can pdb2gmx alter secondary structures of my protein, while adding
  hydrogens. Because I had a helix in my protein, that became a
beta-sheet
  after pdb2gmx.
 
 
  Sorry to say, but this sounds completely unlikely.  A bug of this
magnitude
  surely would've been noticed long ago.
 
 
   What may be the problem?
 
 
  Are you certain you're looking at the same residues?  pdb2gmx
renumbers
  from 1, so if there are missing N-terminal residues, they will
not have the
  same numbers  before and after pdb2gmx.
 
  -Justin
 
   Thank you
  Carla
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] opla atom types and charges for nitrile / thienopyridine

2010-01-29 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Sebastian Kruggel wrote:

hello,

i generated a lig.itp file with topolgen.pl to perform ligand/protein md 
simulations. as my ligand contains nitriles and a thienopyridine 
scaffold, topolgen failed assigning atom types.


i found opls_753/4 in ffoplsaa.atp for the nitrile but changing the *itp 
file i didn't find any hint for the charge nor the chgr entry to put. 


See below for parameterization advice.  See the manual for information on charge 
groups - the .atp file won't help you there.


additionally i am not sure about the treatment of the pyridine nitrogen 
as i only see the opls_520 and i don't know what the 6-31G* is meaning.




6-31G* is a QM charge calculation method often used in deriving parameters; see 
below.



in the mailing list i found
http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-May/042069.html


The more applicable message in the thread above is actually the next message:

http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2009-May/042068.html

Virtual sites can be tricky with the nitrile group.

but wondered if oplsaa shouldn't be the better choice for a md 
simulation of ligand and protein - or is the gromos53a6 (or the gmx 
force field as used in the drug/enzyme tutorial

http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg/gmx.pdf
) not too bad?


Either way, parameterization is going to be hard.  Please consult the following, 
and consider that deriving parameters for any new species is a very advanced 
topic and should only be undertaken with a thorough knowledge of derivation 
procedures and the intrinsics of the desired force field:


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization

You could certainly derive parameters suitable for either force field (OPLS or 
53a6), but it will take a considerable amount of time.  The topolgen.pl script 
is just a cute little utility I wrote some time ago to give you a starting point 
for topology generation.  Its output should not necessarily be considered 
accurate or appropriate for immediate simulation, anyway.  You've got to do the 
legwork of deriving parameters from there!


-Justin



maybe anybody has done simulations with similar molecules, thanks in 
advance for any help!


sebastian





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Re: [gmx-users] Problems with gromacs-openMM

2010-01-29 Thread jorge_quintero
Thanks a lot!!! it works


 Hi,


 try to do add the OpenMM library dir to your library path before running
 make

 $ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/openmm/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH


 Also, OpenMM support will be officially available in the next Gromacs
 release (soon).

 Rossen

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 make[3]: *** No hay ninguna regla para construir el objetivo
 `/usr/local/openmm/lib/libOpenMM.*', necesario para `grompp'.  Alto.
 make[3]: se sale del directorio `/root/gromacs-4.0.7/src/kernel'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: se sale del directorio `/root/gromacs-4.0.7/src'
 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
 make[1]: se sale del directorio `/root/gromacs-4.0.7/src'
 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

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[gmx-users] Re: opls atom types and charges

2010-01-29 Thread Sebastian Kruggel

hi justin,

thanks for the quick answer and ...

 Either way, parameterization is going to be hard.

so you don't think the use of default parameters of gmx-ff 
as described in the drug-enzyme-tutorial to be useful (to 
give reasonable results) if i want to get an impression of 
the stability of docked poses and for the calculation of 
binding free energies?


simulations don't crash the way described in
http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg/gmx.pdf
- i only thought that oplsaa would probably be the 'better 
choice'?


thanks for your estimation,
sebastian




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[gmx-users] Dihedral time of circulation

2010-01-29 Thread chris . neale

Dear Sa?a:

There are many dihedral angles in the MET sidechain. I suspect that  
you mean to ask how long does it take the chi1 dihedral angle of MET  
to equilibrate rotametric preference?


The answer is entirely dependent on context, with a free amino acid  
(perhaps also a methionine dipeptide) having the lowest correlation  
time. This time, however, will always be very long on simulation  
timescales.


Note also that the time required in simulation may or may not match an  
experimental value if one exists.


If you want to get a lower bound for the time required, I suggest that  
you put a methionine dipeptide (or free methionine if you must) in  
vacuum and use the sd integrator. You should be able to get hundreds  
of us per day on a system like this. Obviously the time that you  
observe here will be significantly less than the time required in bulk  
water, and the time required in a solvated protein context is likely  
larger, and in the context of a protein embedded in a lipid bilayer  
this will be even larger.


Still, this is a simple method to find out some number that represents  
the absolute fastest that this could occur.


I do realize that the sd integrator time does not map directly to that  
of the md integrator for kinetics (with a given tau_t), but this isn't  
intended to be all that accurate, just to be something that you could  
probably calculate in one day. If you need something more accurate  
then it will take you longer. (You could use the md integrator in a  
box of water with PME for example, but that will be much more  
expensive -- putting a few METs in the same box might be useful here  
if you position restrain a single backbone atom to ensure that they do  
not contact each other).


Chris.

-- original message --

I have a question about dihedral time of circulation: what is the  
typical time for a rotation of 360 deg of an unconstrained dihedral in  
the side chain of an amino acid at 300K ? For example dihedral  
rotation of MET side chain in a ALA-MET-ALA side chain. A use  
OPLSAA/tip4p FF.


Many thanks
Sa?a




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[gmx-users] Lambda and simulation problem

2010-01-29 Thread Matteo De Chiara
Hello everybody,

I performed 100 simulation using a lambda step of 0.01 using gromacs
4.0.5 and Amber forcefield, starting always from the same structure (
a crystal with the ligand), minimizing for 3000 step and then starting
the md simulation.


Here the row about the changing atom in my .itp file

15   amber99_48  1  M5P S151  -0.716232.0600 amber99_43
-0.729416.

and this is the mdp file concerning the free energy calculation:

free_energy = yes
sc_power=  1.0
sc_alpha=  0.5
sc_sigma=  0.3
delta_lambda=  0.0
init_lambda =  0.50


I succesfully wrote the topology for the alchemical transformation and
in both end simulations ( with Lambda =0 and Lambda =1) I have no
problem.

For the intermediate steps( i.e. lambda=0.5) , however, I found that
the Jennard-Jones and the Coulomb interactions are drammatically
wrong.

Actually, the S-O atom seems desappeared and the aminoacids in the
active site change their position in order to reach a good equilibrium
as if the S-O was not there ( there are charded atoms all around).
Moreover the changing atom moves around going crushing against the
other atoms sorrounding without apparent problems.

How could it be?
Can someone help me?

Thank you!

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: opls atom types and charges

2010-01-29 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Sebastian Kruggel wrote:

hi justin,

thanks for the quick answer and ...

  Either way, parameterization is going to be hard.

so you don't think the use of default parameters of gmx-ff as described 
in the drug-enzyme-tutorial to be useful (to give reasonable results) if 
i want to get an impression of the stability of docked poses and for the 
calculation of binding free energies?


simulations don't crash the way described in
http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg/gmx.pdf
- i only thought that oplsaa would probably be the 'better choice'?


From experience I can tell you that PRODRG parameters, at face value, are 
generally unreliable.  The charges and charge groups it provides do not give 
good results when put through the tests that proper parameters should.  This is 
not always the case (depending on the complexity of your molecule), but for the 
compounds I have dealt with, this has definitely been true.  PRODRG is a nice 
tool because it saves you the work of building a topology from scratch, but it 
is still your job to come up with parameters consistent with the original 
derivation of the force field.


As for the better choice, all force fields have pros and cons.  It's your job 
to read the literature for what's known about each and make an intelligent 
choice.  This is not a trivial decision, and can heavily influence the results 
you get.  Using the ffgmx force field (as in the tutorial) is an especially bad 
idea, since (as pdb2gmx warns you) this force field is ancient and deprecated.


-Justin



thanks for your estimation,
sebastian






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[gmx-users] Re:Dihedral time of circulation

2010-01-29 Thread Bjelic Sasa
Dear all,

perhaps I have to be more clear: 

I made I short MD with OPLSAA/tip4p and PME of Gly-Met-Gly. If I plot the 
CB-CG-SD-CE dihedral on the time scale I get the shortest time for a whole 
rotation of about 100 fs. So, my question is, if this value is reasonable or 
not?

I suppose there must be some experimental data or should I expect this time 
scale.   

Sasa


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[gmx-users] Dihedral time of circulation

2010-01-29 Thread chris . neale
100 fs = 50 timesteps? I doubt it, but then again I have never checked  
and you're talking about a chi3 here, and one that involves a S with  
no hydrogens at that so I guess that it could occur quicker than I  
expected. However, you should avoid talking about time for one  
rotation without error bounds here as it's also possible that you are  
seeing some non-equilibrium equilibration to relieve bad contacts in  
your initial structure.


-- original message --

Dear all,

perhaps I have to be more clear:

I made I short MD with OPLSAA/tip4p and PME of Gly-Met-Gly. If I plot  
the CB-CG-SD-CE dihedral on the time scale I get the shortest time for  
a whole rotation of about 100 fs. So, my question is, if this value is  
reasonable or not?


I suppose there must be some experimental data or should I expect this  
time scale.


Sasa



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