[gmx-users] Reg: MDS of docked comples

2010-02-16 Thread Rohit Farmer
Hi there ... i am new to GROMACS ... however i am able to do mds of
simple protein structures under default configurations ... now i want
to simulate docked complexes .. the docking is done using autodock
 in order to see the hydrogen bond variations between the ligand
and the active site lining residues but for this i don't have any
protocol ... therefore if anyone can suggest me a standard protocol
for simulating docked compexes along with the mdp files ... then
please do suggest ...


Regards

Rohit

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RE: [gmx-users] Reg: MDS of docked comples

2010-02-16 Thread Kukol, Andreas
I recall that somewhere on the Gromacs website is the Drug-Enzyme tutorial by 
Kerrigan. That is what you are looking for.

Andreas

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 Hi there ... i am new to GROMACS ... however i am able to do mds of
 simple protein structures under default configurations ... now i want
 to simulate docked complexes .. the docking is done using autodock
  in order to see the hydrogen bond variations between the ligand
 and the active site lining residues but for this i don't have any
 protocol ... therefore if anyone can suggest me a standard protocol
 for simulating docked compexes along with the mdp files ... then
 please do suggest ...


 Regards

 Rohit

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Re: [gmx-users] Analysis of a simulation

2010-02-16 Thread Saikat Banerjee
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:12 AM, sukesh chandra gain suk...@atc.tcs.comwrote:

 Dear All,

 It is not clear from manual how to analyse my requirements after
 simulation.
 Could you please help me in the following regards:


Please have a look at the g_ tools.
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Gromacs_Utilities

make a proper index file according to your needs using make_ndx or you can
do it manually also.

Have a look at Gromacs manual. Chapter 8.


 1 How to get the graph on occupancy of hydrogen bond interactions of
 ligands throughout 5 ns simulation and occupancy of a particular
 salt-bridge throughout the simulation  ?


try g_hbond, g_saltbr depending on your system... you may look at other
g_tools.


 2 I want to get a graph of the distances of some particular co-factor
 atoms and active site residues atoms throughout the simulation.
 Suppose I want the distance graph between DPM:C9B and Arg7:CA for total
 simulation.


g_dist


 3 Average hydrogen bond distance between active site residues and ligand.


g_hbond


 4 RMSD of some particular residues from its initial structure.


g_rms, g_rmsdist



 5 Total formal charge residing at active site  throughout the simulation
 (All +vely charge and -vely charge residues within 15 A radius of active
 site will be considered).


g_saltbr after converting trajectory with trjorder.


 It would be a great help if you could kindly give some sample commands  for
 these analysis.

 Sorry for lots of questions.

 Thank You.

 Regards,
 Sukesh


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[gmx-users] md simulation of carbon nano tubes

2010-02-16 Thread leila karami
Hi

what is the best program and force field for md simulation of carbon nano
tubes?

Any help will highly appreciated!
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Re: [gmx-users] Poor load balancing

2010-02-16 Thread Deniz KARASU
Carsten thank you for your response.

I did same benchmark with 8 node and 16 node . But these experiments were
done with PME instead of cutt-off. To optimize  I changed cutt-of and
fourier spacing.  I wonder this results are acceptable and if need more
optimization.

Thanks.

Deniz



8 node and cutt-of = 0.9 nm fourier_spacing=0.12

 Average load imbalance: 4.0 %
 Part of the total run time spent waiting due to load imbalance: 1.4 %
 Steps where the load balancing was limited by -rdd, -rcon and/or -dds: X 0
%
 Average PME mesh/force load: 1.758
 Part of the total run time spent waiting due to PP/PME imbalance: 15.7 %

NOTE: 15.7 % performance was lost because the PME nodes
  had more work to do than the PP nodes.
  You might want to increase the number of PME nodes
  or increase the cut-off and the grid spacing.


 R E A L   C Y C L E   A N D   T I M E   A C C O U N T I N G

 Computing: Nodes Number G-CyclesSeconds %
---
 Domain decomp. 4   1001   36.253   15.5 1.4
 Vsite constr.  4   50013.2371.4 0.1
 Send X to PME  4   5001   10.3654.4 0.4
 Comm. coord.   4   5001   15.1936.5 0.6
 Neighbor search4   1001  279.944  120.010.8
 Force  4   5001  451.185  193.517.4
 Wait + Comm. F 4   5001   63.147   27.1 2.4
 PME mesh   4   5001  940.073  403.136.3
 Wait + Comm. X/F   4   5001  356.494  152.913.7
 Wait + Recv. PME F 4   5001  345.820  148.313.3
 Vsite spread   4  100026.5682.8 0.3
 Write traj.4  10.3500.2 0.0
 Update 4   5001   20.5258.8 0.8
 Constraints4   5001   42.245   18.1 1.6
 Comm. energies 4   50013.3771.4 0.1
 Rest   4  18.3937.9 0.7
---
 Total  82593.170 1112.0   100.0
---

Parallel run - timing based on wallclock.

   NODE (s)   Real (s)  (%)
   Time:139.000139.000100.0
   2:19
   (Mnbf/s)   (GFlops)   (ns/day)  (hour/ns)
Performance:127.854  9.458 12.434  1.930
Finished mdrun on node 0 Mon Feb 15 17:34:48 2010


8 node cut-off = 1.0 nm and fourier_spacing=0.13

 Average load imbalance: 3.4 %
 Part of the total run time spent waiting due to load imbalance: 1.7 %
 Steps where the load balancing was limited by -rdd, -rcon and/or -dds: X 0
%
 Average PME mesh/force load: 1.129
 Part of the total run time spent waiting due to PP/PME imbalance: 3.7 %


 R E A L   C Y C L E   A N D   T I M E   A C C O U N T I N G

 Computing: Nodes Number G-CyclesSeconds %
---
 Domain decomp. 4   1001   35.777   15.3 1.5
 Vsite constr.  4   50012.6201.1 0.1
 Send X to PME  4   5001   10.1824.4 0.4
 Comm. coord.   4   5001   15.7276.7 0.7
 Neighbor search4   1001  275.561  117.911.8
 Force  4   5001  576.720  246.724.7
 Wait + Comm. F 4   5001   69.631   29.8 3.0
 PME mesh   4   5001  752.485  321.832.2
 Wait + Comm. X/F   4   5001  416.550  178.217.8
 Wait + Recv. PME F 4   5001   91.857   39.3 3.9
 Vsite spread   4  100026.4562.8 0.3
 Write traj.4  10.4260.2 0.0
 Update 4   5001   20.5778.8 0.9
 Constraints4   5001   41.959   17.9 1.8
 Comm. energies 4   50012.9671.3 0.1
 Rest   4  18.6128.0 0.8
---
 Total  82338.108 1000.0   100.0
---

Parallel run - timing based on wallclock.

   NODE (s)   Real (s)  (%)
   Time:125.000125.000100.0
   2:05
   (Mnbf/s)   (GFlops)   (ns/day)  (hour/ns)
Performance:190.198 11.789 13.827  1.736
Finished mdrun on node 0 Mon Feb 15 22:10:46 2010


Re: [gmx-users] md simulation of carbon nano tubes

2010-02-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



leila karami wrote:

Hi
 
what is the best program and force field for md simulation of carbon 
nano tubes?


Any help will highly appreciated!



Search the literature.  There are numerous reports of CNT simulations, many of 
them conducted with Gromacs.


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[gmx-users] undesired aggregation

2010-02-16 Thread Ester Chiessi
Hi.

I was trying to simulate the behaviour of N-isopropyl propionamide, 
CH3-CH2-CO-NH-CH-(CH3)2 (NIPPA) in aqueous solution.
This molecule has an inverted solubility behaviour with temperature and it 
displays a miscibility gap in water for temperatures higher than about 30°C.
Experiments show that at 293 K and 1 atm the water/NIPPA omogeneous solution 
phase is stable at any composition.

I performed a few NPT MD simulations of NIPPA in water SPC using the 45A3 force 
field, at different NIPPA concentrations, 293 K (Nose Hoover) and 1 atm 
(Parrinello Rahman), PME for electrostatic. Two typical systems contained [288 
NIPPA molecules and 1680 water molecules] or [166 NIPPA and 4140 water 
molecules].
In the starting configuration the NIPPA molecules were randomly placed and 
solvated.

I was very surprised to see that after 2 ns ( time step 2 fs) the NIPPA 
molecules aggregated, in several ways (layer, cylindrical tube, spherical 
object) depending on the NIPPA concentration, whereas I was expecting a 
complete solubility in water.
In a further run at 273 K  ( a temperature about 30 degrees lower than the 
critical temperature) I found the same aggregation effect.

What do you think? Am I beyond the possibilties of the simulation?
Any comment is welcome. Thanks in advance

Ester

P.S. I found in the literature that the DPPC self-assembly was modeled in MD 
simulations ( de Vries et al JACS 2004) at 323 K, a temperature higher than the 
transition temperature of DPPC. Why did the Authors use a T where the organized 
phase is unstable? I was wondering since also for my system the temperature is 
a crucial parameter.





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[gmx-users] Average structure -s

2010-02-16 Thread Carla Jamous
Hi everyone,
please I need to calculate RMSF after fitting to the average structure of my
MD simulation.
Can anyone tell me how to do that? (especially, how to calculate the average
structure)
Another question that may sound stupid: does the -s have the same function
with trjconv  g_rmsf? Can anyone clarify this option for me?

Thank you

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RE: [gmx-users] undesired aggregation

2010-02-16 Thread Berk Hess

Hi,

This subject is extremely sensitive to force field and simulation accuracy.
The small forces driving aggregation are the result of many, large 
counteracting forces.
Force fields often give the right behavior, but nearly never at the correct 
temperature
unless they have been explicitly parametrized for this.

I would not expect the Gromos force field to behave too badly though,
since it has been parametrized to reproduce partitioning between water and 
cyclohexane.

What are your cut-off's and electrostatics settings?

Berk

From: ester.chie...@uniroma2.it
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:35:11 +0100
Subject: [gmx-users] undesired aggregation










Hi.
 
I was trying to simulate the behaviour of 
N-isopropyl propionamide, CH3-CH2-CO-NH-CH-(CH3)2 (NIPPA) in aqueous 
solution.
This molecule has an inverted solubility behaviour 
with temperature and it displays a miscibility gap in water for temperatures 
higher than about 30°C.
Experiments show that at 293 K and 1 atm the 
water/NIPPA omogeneous solution phase is stable at any composition.
 
I performed a few NPT MD simulations of NIPPA in 
water SPC using the 45A3 force field, at different NIPPA concentrations, 
293 K (Nose Hoover) and 1 atm (Parrinello Rahman), PME for electrostatic. Two 
typical systems contained [288 NIPPA molecules and 1680 water molecules] or 
[166 
NIPPA and 4140 water molecules].
In the starting configuration the NIPPA molecules 
were randomly placed and solvated.
 
I was very surprised to see that after 2 ns ( 
time step 2 fs) the NIPPA molecules aggregated, in several ways (layer, 
cylindrical tube, spherical object) depending on the NIPPA concentration, 
whereas I was expecting a complete solubility in water.
In a further run at 273 K  ( a temperature 
about 30 degrees lower than the critical temperature) I found the same 
aggregation effect.
 
What do you think? Am I beyond the possibilties of 
the simulation?
Any comment is welcome. Thanks in 
advance
 
Ester
 
P.S. I found in the literature that the DPPC 
self-assembly was modeled in MD simulations ( de Vries et al JACS 2004) at 323 
K, a temperature higher than the transition temperature of DPPC. Why did the 
Authors use a T where the organized phase is unstable? I was wondering since 
also for my system the temperature is a crucial parameter.
 
 
 
 
 
Ester Chiessi
Dipartimento di Scienze e 
Tecnologie Chimiche
Università di Roma Tor Vergata
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Scientifica
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[gmx-users] Re: gmx-users Digest, Vol 70, Issue 92

2010-02-16 Thread Vitaly V. Chaban
 Hi

 what is the best program and force field for md simulation of carbon nano
 tubes?

There's no such one as for me.
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Re: [gmx-users] Average structure -s

2010-02-16 Thread Mark Abraham

On 17/02/10 01:12, Carla Jamous wrote:

Hi everyone,
please I need to calculate RMSF after fitting to the average structure
of my MD simulation.
Can anyone tell me how to do that? (especially, how to calculate the
average structure)


g_rmsf. There's a section in the manual that gives a breakdown of the 
GROMACS tools by topic that can help guide you.



Another question that may sound stupid: does the -s have the same
function with trjconv  g_rmsf? Can anyone clarify this option for me?


Use the -h flag to the tool to see a description of how things work.

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Re: [gmx-users] pbc whole

2010-02-16 Thread Carla Jamous
Hi Justin,
Thank you for your answer but I'm still not getting my ligand to stay in the
box.

I tried the following(after taking a look at the mailing list archive):

trjconv -s a.tpr -f b.xtc -o c.xtc -center -ur compact -pbc mol (centering
on Protein)
trjconv -s d.tpr -f c.xtc -o f.xtc -fit rot+trans

So please do you have another advise to give me?

Thanks
Carla

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Carla Jamous wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 I'm using this command to extract my protein and my ligand from the
 trajectory.

 trjconv -f prot_md60ns.xtc -s prot_md50.tpr -fit rot+trans -pbc whole -n
 prot_wat.ndx -o prot_ligand_60ns.xtc  grps  outtrj

 Before, I had a problem with residues of my protein showing at the other
 end of the box, when I display my .xtc with VMD.
 the -pbc whole fixed it.

 However, now I have another issue: my ligand is at the other end of the
 box. So please can anyone tell me what can I do to fix that and get a
 reasonable RMSD value?


 You may need several more iterations of trjconv (one rarely does the
 trick), employing -pbc nojump, -pbc cluster, and/or -center.  For
 protein-ligand complexes, I have often found that the combination of:

 trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact -center

 (centering on Protein)

 does the trick.  And it makes molecules whole, as well :)  I think there
 are also some breakdowns (documented somewhere in the list archive) when
 applying -fit and -pbc in the same step.  I believe it is recommended to fix
 PBC first, then applying any sort of fitting in a separate, subsequent step.

 -Justin

  Thank you
 Carla


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Re: [gmx-users] Average structure -s

2010-02-16 Thread Carla Jamous
I looked at g_rmsf -h but the problem is that it's not clear enough.
The help doesn't state how g_rmsf works  what does it calculate exactly.
Because the definition of an RMSF is the following: the mean-square
fluctuation is a measure of the deviation between the position of particle i
and some reference position. Typically, this reference position will be the
time-averaged position of the same particle i.
So does g_rmsf calculate the average structure  then the RMSF according to
this average structure?
Or does it calculate the RMSF after fitting to a reference structure that I
would have specified with the option -s?

Thanks
Carla

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 17/02/10 01:12, Carla Jamous wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 please I need to calculate RMSF after fitting to the average structure
 of my MD simulation.
 Can anyone tell me how to do that? (especially, how to calculate the
 average structure)


 g_rmsf. There's a section in the manual that gives a breakdown of the
 GROMACS tools by topic that can help guide you.


  Another question that may sound stupid: does the -s have the same
 function with trjconv  g_rmsf? Can anyone clarify this option for me?


 Use the -h flag to the tool to see a description of how things work.

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[gmx-users] restarting mdrun

2010-02-16 Thread Chandan Choudhury
Hello gmxusers !!!
I want to continue my simulation, from where the point where it stopped. The
gmxcheck on .trr and cpt files are as:

$gmxcheck -f state.cpt

Checking file state.cpt

# Atoms  186864
Last frame -1 time 9362.500


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step 1
Time 1
Lambda   1
Coords   1
Velocities   1
Forces   0
Box  1

$gmxcheck -f 5-10.trr

Checking file 5-10.trr
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame   0 time 5169.500
# Atoms  186864
Reading frame8000 time 9169.500


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step  83950.5
Time  83950.5
Lambda83950.5
Coords83950.5
Velocities83950.5
Forces   0
Box   83950.5


There is a mismatch of time in both the outputs.

The date of modification of both the files as shown are:

Feb 15 19:55 state.cpt

$date -r 5-10.trr
Mon Feb 15 19:59:56 IST 2010

The cpt file shows time greater than the trr file. But the time of
modification of cpt file is less than trr file. Cannot understand the, how
to restart the mdrun. And the size of the trr file is 36GB. Can I use the
append flag in mdrun for gmx 4.0.5.

Kindly suggest.

Chandan

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Re: [gmx-users] Poor load balancing

2010-02-16 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Deniz,

for calculations with PME you might want to use the g_tune_pme
tools that helps to find the optimal settings on a given number of
cores. For Gromacs 4.0.x you can download it from

http://www.mpibpc.mpg.de/home/grubmueller/projects/MethodAdvancements/Gromacs/

You find installation instructions on the top of the g_tune_pme.c
file.

Carsten


On Feb 16, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Deniz KARASU wrote:

 Carsten thank you for your response. 
 
 I did same benchmark with 8 node and 16 node . But these experiments were 
 done with PME instead of cutt-off. To optimize  I changed cutt-of and fourier 
 spacing.  I wonder this results are acceptable and if need more optimization.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Deniz
 
 
 
 8 node and cutt-of = 0.9 nm fourier_spacing=0.12
 
  Average load imbalance: 4.0 %
  Part of the total run time spent waiting due to load imbalance: 1.4 %
  Steps where the load balancing was limited by -rdd, -rcon and/or -dds: X 0 %
  Average PME mesh/force load: 1.758
  Part of the total run time spent waiting due to PP/PME imbalance: 15.7 %
 
 NOTE: 15.7 % performance was lost because the PME nodes
   had more work to do than the PP nodes.
   You might want to increase the number of PME nodes
   or increase the cut-off and the grid spacing.
 
 
  R E A L   C Y C L E   A N D   T I M E   A C C O U N T I N G
 
  Computing: Nodes Number G-CyclesSeconds %
 ---
  Domain decomp. 4   1001   36.253   15.5 1.4
  Vsite constr.  4   50013.2371.4 0.1
  Send X to PME  4   5001   10.3654.4 0.4
  Comm. coord.   4   5001   15.1936.5 0.6
  Neighbor search4   1001  279.944  120.010.8
  Force  4   5001  451.185  193.517.4
  Wait + Comm. F 4   5001   63.147   27.1 2.4
  PME mesh   4   5001  940.073  403.136.3
  Wait + Comm. X/F   4   5001  356.494  152.913.7
  Wait + Recv. PME F 4   5001  345.820  148.313.3
  Vsite spread   4  100026.5682.8 0.3
  Write traj.4  10.3500.2 0.0
  Update 4   5001   20.5258.8 0.8
  Constraints4   5001   42.245   18.1 1.6
  Comm. energies 4   50013.3771.4 0.1
  Rest   4  18.3937.9 0.7
 ---
  Total  82593.170 1112.0   100.0
 ---
 
 Parallel run - timing based on wallclock.
 
NODE (s)   Real (s)  (%)
Time:139.000139.000100.0
2:19
(Mnbf/s)   (GFlops)   (ns/day)  (hour/ns)
 Performance:127.854  9.458 12.434  1.930
 Finished mdrun on node 0 Mon Feb 15 17:34:48 2010
 
 
 8 node cut-off = 1.0 nm and fourier_spacing=0.13
 
  Average load imbalance: 3.4 %
  Part of the total run time spent waiting due to load imbalance: 1.7 %
  Steps where the load balancing was limited by -rdd, -rcon and/or -dds: X 0 %
  Average PME mesh/force load: 1.129
  Part of the total run time spent waiting due to PP/PME imbalance: 3.7 %
 
 
  R E A L   C Y C L E   A N D   T I M E   A C C O U N T I N G
 
  Computing: Nodes Number G-CyclesSeconds %
 ---
  Domain decomp. 4   1001   35.777   15.3 1.5
  Vsite constr.  4   50012.6201.1 0.1
  Send X to PME  4   5001   10.1824.4 0.4
  Comm. coord.   4   5001   15.7276.7 0.7
  Neighbor search4   1001  275.561  117.911.8
  Force  4   5001  576.720  246.724.7
  Wait + Comm. F 4   5001   69.631   29.8 3.0
  PME mesh   4   5001  752.485  321.832.2
  Wait + Comm. X/F   4   5001  416.550  178.217.8
  Wait + Recv. PME F 4   5001   91.857   39.3 3.9
  Vsite spread   4  100026.4562.8 0.3
  Write traj.4  10.4260.2 0.0
  Update 4   5001   20.5778.8 0.9
  Constraints4   5001   41.959   17.9 1.8
  Comm. energies 4   50012.9671.3 0.1
  Rest   4  18.6128.0 0.8
 

Re: [gmx-users] Average structure -s

2010-02-16 Thread Mark Abraham

On 17/02/10 02:38, Carla Jamous wrote:


I looked at g_rmsf -h but the problem is that it's not clear enough.
The help doesn't state how g_rmsf works  what does it calculate exactly.
Because the definition of an RMSF is the following: the mean-square
fluctuation is a measure of the deviation between the position of
particle i and some reference position. Typically, this reference
position will be the time-averaged position of the same particle i.
So does g_rmsf calculate the average structure  then the RMSF according
to this average structure?


From g_rmsf -h:
g_rmsf computes the root mean square fluctuation (RMSF, i.e. standard
deviation) of atomic positions after (optionally) fitting to a reference
frame.

So it will do what you want. Apparently the fitting is optional. Further 
down you can see that the -s file is not optional, so presumably the 
program will prompt you about whether or not you want fitting to the -s 
structure. Try it and see.



Or does it calculate the RMSF after fitting to a reference structure
that I would have specified with the option -s?


The usual procedure is to read the documentation and then experiment. 
Software documentation is never exhaustive if the toolset is powerful - 
otherwise, it would grow exponentially unwieldy as the number of 
different user choices grows.


A few minutes' thought will suggest ways you can test to see if any 
fitting is occurring.


Mark


On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:

On 17/02/10 01:12, Carla Jamous wrote:

Hi everyone,
please I need to calculate RMSF after fitting to the average
structure
of my MD simulation.
Can anyone tell me how to do that? (especially, how to calculate the
average structure)


g_rmsf. There's a section in the manual that gives a breakdown of
the GROMACS tools by topic that can help guide you.


Another question that may sound stupid: does the -s have the same
function with trjconv  g_rmsf? Can anyone clarify this option
for me?


Use the -h flag to the tool to see a description of how things work.

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[gmx-users] Power6 @ 4.7 Ghz vs Xeon E5472 @ 3.00GHz

2010-02-16 Thread pim schravendijk
Dear Gromacs users,

I have been installing Gromacs on a Power6 4.7 GHz with Infiniband,
GBit-Ethernet

before calling configure, I set:

export LDFLAGS=-L/gpfs/schraven/fftw3/lib
export CPPFLAGS=-I/gpfs/schraven/fftw3/include
export CC=mpcc_r -q64
export CFLAGS=-O3 -qstrict -qarch=auto -qtune=auto
export CXX=mpCC_r -q64
export CXXFLAGS=-O3 -qstrict -qarch=auto -qtune=auto
export F77=mpxlf_r -q64
### O3 gives warning: The NOSTRICT option (default at OPT(3)) has the
potential to alter the semantics of a program.
export FFLAGS=-O3 -qstrict -qnoprefetch -qarch=auto -qtune=auto
export LIBS=-lmass
export FLIBS= -xlf -xlf90
export OBJECT_MODE=64

I run on both machines at 8 cores (so within the board), and find the 8
power6 cores to be 4-5 times slower (!) than the 8 intel xeon cores.

Does anyone have similar experience between these machines? Are there some
things I should check?
It's a bit useless to use the power6 at all with these kind of speeds, but
they were already here anyway and amazon's 30 day refund on retour has
expired already ;)
Hopefully I'm doing something wrong and the situation can still be improved?

Greetings, Pim
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Re: [gmx-users] restarting mdrun

2010-02-16 Thread Mark Abraham

On 17/02/10 02:52, Chandan Choudhury wrote:

Hello gmxusers !!!
I want to continue my simulation, from where the point where it stopped.
The gmxcheck on .trr and cpt files are as:

$gmxcheck -f state.cpt

Checking file state.cpt

# Atoms  186864
Last frame -1 time 9362.500


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step 1
Time 1
Lambda   1
Coords   1
Velocities   1
Forces   0
Box  1

$gmxcheck -f 5-10.trr

Checking file 5-10.trr
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame   0 time 5169.500
# Atoms  186864
Reading frame8000 time 9169.500


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step  83950.5
Time  83950.5
Lambda83950.5
Coords83950.5
Velocities83950.5
Forces   0
Box   83950.5


There is a mismatch of time in both the outputs.

The date of modification of both the files as shown are:

Feb 15 19:55 state.cpt

$date -r 5-10.trr
Mon Feb 15 19:59:56 IST 2010

The cpt file shows time greater than the trr file. But the time of
modification of cpt file is less than trr file.


If the simulation stopped catastrophically, then the timestamp could 
easily differ, especially if the .cpt is opened, written to and closed 
periodically, and the .trr is open continuously.



Cannot understand the,
how to restart the mdrun. And the size of the trr file is 36GB. Can I
use the append flag in mdrun for gmx 4.0.5.


Search the webpage for suggestions.

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Re: [gmx-users] Power6 @ 4.7 Ghz vs Xeon E5472 @ 3.00GHz

2010-02-16 Thread Mark Abraham

On 17/02/10 03:06, pim schravendijk wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,

I have been installing Gromacs on a Power6 4.7 GHz with Infiniband,
GBit-Ethernet

before calling configure, I set:

export LDFLAGS=-L/gpfs/schraven/fftw3/lib
export CPPFLAGS=-I/gpfs/schraven/fftw3/include
export CC=mpcc_r -q64
export CFLAGS=-O3 -qstrict -qarch=auto -qtune=auto
export CXX=mpCC_r -q64
export CXXFLAGS=-O3 -qstrict -qarch=auto -qtune=auto
export F77=mpxlf_r -q64
### O3 gives warning: The NOSTRICT option (default at OPT(3)) has the
potential to alter the semantics of a program.
export FFLAGS=-O3 -qstrict -qnoprefetch -qarch=auto -qtune=auto
export LIBS=-lmass
export FLIBS= -xlf -xlf90
export OBJECT_MODE=64

I run on both machines at 8 cores (so within the board), and find the 8
power6 cores to be 4-5 times slower (!) than the 8 intel xeon cores.

Does anyone have similar experience between these machines? Are there
some things I should check?
It's a bit useless to use the power6 at all with these kind of speeds,
but they were already here anyway and amazon's 30 day refund on retour
has expired already ;)
Hopefully I'm doing something wrong and the situation can still be improved?


This issue might have been discussed on the list before, have a search. 
I suspect the issue is that there are no optimized inner loops for 
Power6 as there are for x86. You can see what GROMACS is finding and 
doing in the configure output. Probably GROMACS is finding nothing 
useful and falling back on generic C versions of such loops. You should 
experiment with --enable-fortran to try the generic FORTRAN versions.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] pbc whole

2010-02-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Carla Jamous wrote:

Hi Justin,
Thank you for your answer but I'm still not getting my ligand to stay in 
the box.


I tried the following(after taking a look at the mailing list archive):

trjconv -s a.tpr -f b.xtc -o c.xtc -center -ur compact -pbc mol 
(centering on Protein)

trjconv -s d.tpr -f c.xtc -o f.xtc -fit rot+trans

So please do you have another advise to give me?



If that's not working, then I wonder if your ligand is still actually bound to 
your protein :)  The above sequence always works for me, as long as there 
actually is a complex.  You can also try -pbc cluster, but I know that algorithm 
can hang.


-Justin


Thanks
Carla

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




Carla Jamous wrote:

Hi everyone,
I'm using this command to extract my protein and my ligand from
the trajectory.

trjconv -f prot_md60ns.xtc -s prot_md50.tpr -fit rot+trans -pbc
whole -n prot_wat.ndx -o prot_ligand_60ns.xtc  grps  outtrj

Before, I had a problem with residues of my protein showing at
the other end of the box, when I display my .xtc with VMD.
the -pbc whole fixed it.

However, now I have another issue: my ligand is at the other end
of the box. So please can anyone tell me what can I do to fix
that and get a reasonable RMSD value?


You may need several more iterations of trjconv (one rarely does the
trick), employing -pbc nojump, -pbc cluster, and/or -center.  For
protein-ligand complexes, I have often found that the combination of:

trjconv -pbc mol -ur compact -center

(centering on Protein)

does the trick.  And it makes molecules whole, as well :)  I think
there are also some breakdowns (documented somewhere in the list
archive) when applying -fit and -pbc in the same step.  I believe it
is recommended to fix PBC first, then applying any sort of fitting
in a separate, subsequent step.

-Justin

Thank you
Carla


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Re: [gmx-users] restarting mdrun

2010-02-16 Thread Chandan Choudhury
Hi Mark !!!
Thanks for answering.
My query is how do I restart my mdrun because the command
nohup mpirun -np 16 -machinefile mac mdrun -s md5-10.tpr -cpi state.cpt
-append 
will not start from where the trajectory was stopped (i.e; time 9169.500).
As this command will continue the simulation from where the cpt file was
written.

Any suggestions??

chandan

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NCL, Pune
INDIA


On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 17/02/10 02:52, Chandan Choudhury wrote:

 Hello gmxusers !!!
 I want to continue my simulation, from where the point where it stopped.
 The gmxcheck on .trr and cpt files are as:

 $gmxcheck -f state.cpt

 Checking file state.cpt

 # Atoms  186864
 Last frame -1 time 9362.500


 Item#frames Timestep (ps)
 Step 1
 Time 1
 Lambda   1
 Coords   1
 Velocities   1
 Forces   0
 Box  1

 $gmxcheck -f 5-10.trr

 Checking file 5-10.trr
 trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
 Reading frame   0 time 5169.500
 # Atoms  186864
 Reading frame8000 time 9169.500


 Item#frames Timestep (ps)
 Step  83950.5
 Time  83950.5
 Lambda83950.5
 Coords83950.5
 Velocities83950.5
 Forces   0
 Box   83950.5


 There is a mismatch of time in both the outputs.

 The date of modification of both the files as shown are:

 Feb 15 19:55 state.cpt

 $date -r 5-10.trr
 Mon Feb 15 19:59:56 IST 2010

 The cpt file shows time greater than the trr file. But the time of
 modification of cpt file is less than trr file.


 If the simulation stopped catastrophically, then the timestamp could easily
 differ, especially if the .cpt is opened, written to and closed
 periodically, and the .trr is open continuously.


  Cannot understand the,
 how to restart the mdrun. And the size of the trr file is 36GB. Can I
 use the append flag in mdrun for gmx 4.0.5.


 Search the webpage for suggestions.

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] restarting mdrun

2010-02-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Chandan Choudhury wrote:

Hi Mark !!!
Thanks for answering.
My query is how do I restart my mdrun because the command
nohup mpirun -np 16 -machinefile mac mdrun -s md5-10.tpr -cpi state.cpt 
-append 
will not start from where the trajectory was stopped (i.e; time 
9169.500). As this command will continue the simulation from where the 
cpt file was written.




Right, it will start from whenever the checkpoint was written.  You should also 
have a state_prev.cpt that is a backup in case this type of thing happens; it 
may help.  Regardless, with a 36-GB .trr file, the -append option will not work. 
 Leave it out and use trjcat later.


-Justin


Any suggestions??

chandan

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NCL, Pune
INDIA


On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:


On 17/02/10 02:52, Chandan Choudhury wrote:

Hello gmxusers !!!
I want to continue my simulation, from where the point where it
stopped.
The gmxcheck on .trr and cpt files are as:

$gmxcheck -f state.cpt

Checking file state.cpt

# Atoms  186864
Last frame -1 time 9362.500


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step 1
Time 1
Lambda   1
Coords   1
Velocities   1
Forces   0
Box  1

$gmxcheck -f 5-10.trr

Checking file 5-10.trr
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame   0 time 5169.500
# Atoms  186864
Reading frame8000 time 9169.500


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step  83950.5
Time  83950.5
Lambda83950.5
Coords83950.5
Velocities83950.5
Forces   0
Box   83950.5


There is a mismatch of time in both the outputs.

The date of modification of both the files as shown are:

Feb 15 19:55 state.cpt

$date -r 5-10.trr
Mon Feb 15 19:59:56 IST 2010

The cpt file shows time greater than the trr file. But the time of
modification of cpt file is less than trr file.


If the simulation stopped catastrophically, then the timestamp could
easily differ, especially if the .cpt is opened, written to and
closed periodically, and the .trr is open continuously.


Cannot understand the,
how to restart the mdrun. And the size of the trr file is 36GB.
Can I
use the append flag in mdrun for gmx 4.0.5.


Search the webpage for suggestions.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] restarting mdrun

2010-02-16 Thread Chandan Choudhury
Thanks Justin !!
But my state_prev.cpt file shows
$gmxcheck -f state_prev.cpt

Checking file state_prev.cpt

# Atoms  186864
Last frame -1 time 9346.700


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step 1
Time 1
Lambda   1
Coords   1
Velocities   1
Forces   0
Box  1

Here also the time is greater than the .trr file.

Cant understand how to overcome it.

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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Chandan Choudhury wrote:

 Hi Mark !!!
 Thanks for answering.
 My query is how do I restart my mdrun because the command
 nohup mpirun -np 16 -machinefile mac mdrun -s md5-10.tpr -cpi state.cpt
 -append 
 will not start from where the trajectory was stopped (i.e; time 9169.500).
 As this command will continue the simulation from where the cpt file was
 written.


 Right, it will start from whenever the checkpoint was written.  You should
 also have a state_prev.cpt that is a backup in case this type of thing
 happens; it may help.  Regardless, with a 36-GB .trr file, the -append
 option will not work.  Leave it out and use trjcat later.

 -Justin

  Any suggestions??

 chandan

 --
 Chandan kumar Choudhury
 NCL, Pune
 INDIA


 On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.abra...@anu.edu.aumailto:
 mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:

On 17/02/10 02:52, Chandan Choudhury wrote:

Hello gmxusers !!!
I want to continue my simulation, from where the point where it
stopped.
The gmxcheck on .trr and cpt files are as:

$gmxcheck -f state.cpt

Checking file state.cpt

# Atoms  186864
Last frame -1 time 9362.500


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step 1
Time 1
Lambda   1
Coords   1
Velocities   1
Forces   0
Box  1

$gmxcheck -f 5-10.trr

Checking file 5-10.trr
trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame   0 time 5169.500
# Atoms  186864
Reading frame8000 time 9169.500


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step  83950.5
Time  83950.5
Lambda83950.5
Coords83950.5
Velocities83950.5
Forces   0
Box   83950.5


There is a mismatch of time in both the outputs.

The date of modification of both the files as shown are:

Feb 15 19:55 state.cpt

$date -r 5-10.trr
Mon Feb 15 19:59:56 IST 2010

The cpt file shows time greater than the trr file. But the time of
modification of cpt file is less than trr file.


If the simulation stopped catastrophically, then the timestamp could
easily differ, especially if the .cpt is opened, written to and
closed periodically, and the .trr is open continuously.


Cannot understand the,
how to restart the mdrun. And the size of the trr file is 36GB.
Can I
use the append flag in mdrun for gmx 4.0.5.


Search the webpage for suggestions.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] restarting mdrun

2010-02-16 Thread Mark Abraham

On 17/02/10 04:43, Chandan Choudhury wrote:

Thanks Justin !!
But my state_prev.cpt file shows
$gmxcheck -f state_prev.cpt

Checking file state_prev.cpt

# Atoms  186864
Last frame -1 time 9346.700


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step 1
Time 1
Lambda   1
Coords   1
Velocities   1
Forces   0
Box  1

Here also the time is greater than the .trr file.

Cant understand how to overcome it.


Your checkpoint interval need not match your .trr-writing interval - see 
your .mdp file.


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Re: [gmx-users] Restarting mdrun

2010-02-16 Thread Lum Nforbi
Hi Chadan,

I have used the two commands below to CONTINUE a run and they worked
fine for me. I am also using gromacs-4.0.5.

tpbconv -s wfullmdrun_extend2.tpr -extend 2000 -o wfullmdrun_extend3.tpr
mdrun -s wfullmdrun_extend3.tpr -o wfullmdrun_traj.trr -e
wfullmdrun_ener.edr -g md.log -cpi state_prev.cpt -append 

The first command includes the amount of time by which you want to extend
your run.
The second one just appends the results to your existing files. In this
second command, you are using the new .tpr file you created in the first
command. Use the state.cpt file instead of the state_prev.cpt file in order
to avoid losing time.

Hope this helps.

Lum


   On 17/02/10 02:52, Chandan Choudhury wrote:
 Hello gmxusers !!!
 I want to continue my simulation, from where the point where it stopped.
 The gmxcheck on .trr and cpt files are as:

 $gmxcheck -f state.cpt

 Checking file state.cpt

 # Atoms  186864
 Last frame -1 time 9362.500


 Item#frames Timestep (ps)
 Step 1
 Time 1
 Lambda   1
 Coords   1
 Velocities   1
 Forces   0
 Box  1

 $gmxcheck -f 5-10.trr

 Checking file 5-10.trr
 trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
 Reading frame   0 time 5169.500
 # Atoms  186864
 Reading frame8000 time 9169.500


 Item#frames Timestep (ps)
 Step  83950.5
 Time  83950.5
 Lambda83950.5
 Coords83950.5
 Velocities83950.5
 Forces   0
 Box   83950.5


 There is a mismatch of time in both the outputs.

 The date of modification of both the files as shown are:

 Feb 15 19:55 state.cpt

 $date -r 5-10.trr
 Mon Feb 15 19:59:56 IST 2010

 The cpt file shows time greater than the trr file. But the time of
 modification of cpt file is less than trr file.

If the simulation stopped catastrophically, then the timestamp could
easily differ, especially if the .cpt is opened, written to and closed
periodically, and the .trr is open continuously.

 Cannot understand the,
 how to restart the mdrun. And the size of the trr file is 36GB. Can I
 use the append flag in mdrun for gmx 4.0.5.

Search the webpage for suggestions.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] restarting mdrun

2010-02-16 Thread Chandan Choudhury
Below is my .mdp file. The timestep dt shows as 0.001 ps

title= protein
cpp  = /lib/cpp
; RUN CONTROL
integrator   = md
nsteps   = 300
dt   = 0.001
; NEIGHBOR SEARCHING
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 0.9
; OUTPUT CONTROL
nstxout  = 500
nstvout  = 500
nstxtcout= 0
nstlog   = 10
constraints  = all-bonds
nstenergy= 100
; OPTION FOR ELECTROSTATIC AND VDW
coulombtype  = PME
rcoulomb_switch  = 0
rcoulomb = 0.9
; Dielectric constant (DC) for cut-off or DC of reaction field
epsilon_r= 1
; Method for doing Van der Waals
vdw-type = Cut-off
; cut-off lengths
rvdw_switch  = 0
rvdw = 0.9
; Apply long range dispersion corrections for Energy and Pressure
DispCorr = No
; Extension of the potential lookup tables beyond the cut-off
table-extension  = 2.5
; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
fourierspacing   = 0.28
; FFT grid size, when a value is 0 fourierspacing will be used
fourier_nx   = 0
fourier_ny   = 0
fourier_nz   = 0
; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters
pme_order= 4
ewald_rtol   = 1e-05
ewald_geometry   = 3d
epsilon_surface  = 0
optimize_fft = no
; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS
tcoupl   = V-rescale
tc_grps  =  SOL Protein Na
tau_t=  0.1 0.1 0.1
ref_t=  300 300 300
Pcoupl   = Berendsen
Pcoupltype   = isotropic
; Time constant (ps), compressibility (1/bar) and reference P (bar)
tau_p= 1.0
compressibility  = 4.5e-5
ref_p= 1.0
gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 300

--
Chandan kumar Choudhury
NCL, Pune
INDIA


On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:

 On 17/02/10 04:43, Chandan Choudhury wrote:

 Thanks Justin !!
 But my state_prev.cpt file shows
 $gmxcheck -f state_prev.cpt

 Checking file state_prev.cpt

 # Atoms  186864
 Last frame -1 time 9346.700


 Item#frames Timestep (ps)
 Step 1
 Time 1
 Lambda   1
 Coords   1
 Velocities   1
 Forces   0
 Box  1

 Here also the time is greater than the .trr file.

 Cant understand how to overcome it.


 Your checkpoint interval need not match your .trr-writing interval - see
 your .mdp file.


 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Restarting mdrun

2010-02-16 Thread Chandan Choudhury
Thanks Lum !!!
I had already used the suggestion you mentioned. But my problem is somewhat
different. You can go through my previous mail, for more information.

Thanks.

Chandan

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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Lum Nforbi lumngwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chadan,

 I have used the two commands below to CONTINUE a run and they worked
 fine for me. I am also using gromacs-4.0.5.

 tpbconv -s wfullmdrun_extend2.tpr -extend 2000 -o wfullmdrun_extend3.tpr
 mdrun -s wfullmdrun_extend3.tpr -o wfullmdrun_traj.trr -e
 wfullmdrun_ener.edr -g md.log -cpi state_prev.cpt -append 

 The first command includes the amount of time by which you want to extend
 your run.
 The second one just appends the results to your existing files. In this
 second command, you are using the new .tpr file you created in the first
 command. Use the state.cpt file instead of the state_prev.cpt file in order
 to avoid losing time.

 Hope this helps.

 Lum


On 17/02/10 02:52, Chandan Choudhury wrote:
  Hello gmxusers !!!
  I want to continue my simulation, from where the point where it stopped.
  The gmxcheck on .trr and cpt files are as:
 
  $gmxcheck -f state.cpt
 
  Checking file state.cpt
 
  # Atoms  186864
  Last frame -1 time 9362.500
 
 
  Item#frames Timestep (ps)
  Step 1
  Time 1
  Lambda   1
  Coords   1
  Velocities   1
  Forces   0
  Box  1
 
  $gmxcheck -f 5-10.trr
 
  Checking file 5-10.trr
  trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
  Reading frame   0 time 5169.500
  # Atoms  186864
  Reading frame8000 time 9169.500
 
 
  Item#frames Timestep (ps)
  Step  83950.5
  Time  83950.5
  Lambda83950.5
  Coords83950.5
  Velocities83950.5
  Forces   0
  Box   83950.5
 
 
  There is a mismatch of time in both the outputs.
 
  The date of modification of both the files as shown are:
 
  Feb 15 19:55 state.cpt
 
  $date -r 5-10.trr
  Mon Feb 15 19:59:56 IST 2010
 
  The cpt file shows time greater than the trr file. But the time of
  modification of cpt file is less than trr file.

 If the simulation stopped catastrophically, then the timestamp could
 easily differ, especially if the .cpt is opened, written to and closed
 periodically, and the .trr is open continuously.

  Cannot understand the,
  how to restart the mdrun. And the size of the trr file is 36GB. Can I
  use the append flag in mdrun for gmx 4.0.5.

 Search the webpage for suggestions.

 Mark
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[gmx-users] Is that true?

2010-02-16 Thread Maurício Menegatti Rigo
Hi,

someone can told me if this affirmative is true for GROMACS 4.0?

*The force fields and water models available for biomolecules have been
developed for room temperature simulations*

Or where I can find in the manual about this subject?


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Re: [gmx-users] Is that true?

2010-02-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Maurício Menegatti Rigo wrote:

Hi,

someone can told me if this affirmative is true for GROMACS 4.0?

/The force fields and water models available for biomolecules have been 
developed for room temperature simulations/


Or where I can find in the manual about this subject?


I would suggest looking at the primary literature for the force fields and water 
models commonly used in biomolecular simulation.  The Gromacs manual will not 
give these details.  Most biomolecular force fields have been parameterized for 
condensed-phase simulations at a fairly narrow range of physiologically-relevant 
temperatures.  Any extensions or modifications of these force fields should be 
documented in published papers.


-Justin




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Re: [gmx-users] restarting mdrun

2010-02-16 Thread Mark Abraham

On 17/02/10 04:43, Chandan Choudhury wrote:

Thanks Justin !!
But my state_prev.cpt file shows
$gmxcheck -f state_prev.cpt

Checking file state_prev.cpt

# Atoms  186864
Last frame -1 time 9346.700


Item#frames Timestep (ps)
Step 1
Time 1
Lambda   1
Coords   1
Velocities   1
Forces   0
Box  1

Here also the time is greater than the .trr file.

Cant understand how to overcome it.


There's no reason any of this has to match.

The checkpoint file is written according to the interval supplied with 
mdrun -cpt, default 15 minutes. The .trr file is written every so many 
steps per the .mdp flags. So their contents will generally not match at 
any point before the end of a run. They will match if it terminates 
normally. Simlarly the filesystem timestamp that gets recorded can vary 
with a whole pile of system variables, and need not match either. This 
is all fine. Under GROMACS 4.x, the purpose of the .cpt is to facilitate 
timely restarts without having to save excessive amounts of information 
in the trajectory file. Instead you can just focus on storing the data 
in your trajectory files that you need for your analysis. The website 
pages talk more about this.


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