Re: [gmx-users] NVT conserved-energy lysozyme

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Abraham

On 15/05/2012 6:17 PM, David de Sancho wrote:

Dear all
I have been following Justin Lemkul's tutorial for the lysozyme 
simulations

http://bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/lysozyme/index.html
I am using Gromacs 4.5.5.

My concern is with the energy conservation in the implementation of 
Bussi's velocity-rescaling thermostat.


Check out their paper and see what they claim for conservation properties.

 In step 6 of the tutorial an NVT equilibration is run using tcoupl = 
V-rescale. The temperature equilibrates quite rapidly as shown in 
Justin's webpage. Essentially, T fluctuates around its equilibrium 
value after ~ 2 ps. However looking at the conserved energy I find 
that there is a drift that does not seem to plateau even by the end of 
the 100 ps run (see attachment).


Different observables equilibrate over different time scales.



I have tried to sort this out myself by using the following settings:
(1) change lincs_iter from 1 to 2.
(2) change from PME to PME-Switch, which for NVE Gromacs recommends as 
more accurate (I also modified: rlist=1.0, rcoulomb=1.0, rvdw=1.4).
(3) change to vdwtype = Shift, so that errors due to cutoffs were 
eliminated.

None of this seems to help.

Actually Justin himself has helped me and found that with the 
following settings the conservation is considerably better

=== shift settings ===
vdwtype = shift
coulombtype = PME
rlist = 1.4
rcoulomb = 1.4
rvdw = 1.0
rvdw_switch = 0.8
Still there is a drift in the conserved quantity which seems a quite 
severe problem.


Severe sounds like an over-description. The drift is 0.15% in the 
conserved quantity, beginning from a non-equilibrated starting point and 
only continuing for about the shortest equilibration period anybody 
could imagine using these days. There's a lot of approximations going on 
(PME, rigid bonds, static point charges) and maybe drift at this level 
is not significant. Still, it should get smaller if you just run for longer.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Two [ dihedrals ] sections in topology

2012-05-15 Thread Richard Broadbent
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 15:43 +0100, Lara Bunte wrote: 
 Hi
 
 You wrote:
 
 Two blocks of dihedrals are normal output for pdb2gmx - one for proper 
 and one for improper dihedrals.
 
 
 Is there a way to force pdb2gmx that there is only my block with improper 
 dihedrals in the topology?
 
Not that I'm aware of, and gromacs is designed to allow 2 dihedral
blocks, I'd suggest you simply remove the block you do not want.
Although you should be very sure that is what you want to do! 
 
 Could that be a problem in further calculations, i.e. energy minimization if 
 there is this empty [ dihedrals ] block in the topology?
 
Not that I'm aware of; however, you should know that those missing
parameters will be filled in with the dihedrals from the
[ dihedral_types ] section above them in the .top file (this will most
likely be in a #included file). 
 
  [ bondedtypes ]
  ; bonds  angles  dihedrals  impropers
1   1  5  5
 
 Those are angle, dihedral and improper function types that are abnormal 
 for CHARMM27. Using these in your .rtp means that you are no longer 
 using CHARMM27. It might be reasonable for you to do this, but you need 
 to be absolutely sure why. Importing a topology from another force field 
 is not an acceptable reason.
 
 What would be the correct numbers in the [ bondedtypes ] for using CHARMM27 
 force field?
 
I don't know them but they will be in the CHARMM27.ff/amioacids.rtp file
which should be in $GMXDATA/gromacs/top/

Richard 
 Thanks
 
 Greetings
 
 Lara
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Betreff: Re: [gmx-users] Two [ dihedrals ] sections in topology
 
 On 15/05/2012 8:47 PM, Lara Bunte wrote:
  Hi
 
  After pdb2gmx I have two [ dihedrals ] sections in my topology. The first 
  block is empty, the second block is correct with my parameters.
 
 
  An an example:
 
 
  First block:
  [ dihedrals ]
  ;  aiajakal functc0c1c2 
 c3c4c5
   2 119 8 5
   6 8 910 5
 
 
  Second block:
  [ dihedrals ]
  ;  aiajakal functc0c1c2 
 c3
   1 8 6 4 5180   100
   1 2 4 5 5180   100
 
 
  What could be the reason for this? What do I have to change in my force 
  field folder (CHARMM27) to fix this?
 
 Two blocks of dihedrals are normal output for pdb2gmx - one for proper 
 and one for improper dihedrals.
 
 
  In my .rtp file in the force field folder I have only this section for 
  dihedrals
 
  [ impropers ]
  O4 N1  C2   N3 180   100
  N1 C2  N3   H3 180   100
 
 This produces your second block of type 5 dihedrals, given what you have 
 said below.
 
 
 
  I declared my [ bondedtypes ] as the following:
 
  [ bondedtypes ]
  ; bonds  angles  dihedrals  impropers
1   1  5  5
 
 Those are angle, dihedral and improper function types that are abnormal 
 for CHARMM27. Using these in your .rtp means that you are no longer 
 using CHARMM27. It might be reasonable for you to do this, but you need 
 to be absolutely sure why. Importing a topology from another force field 
 is not an acceptable reason.
 
 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Two [ dihedrals ] sections in topology

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 10:43 AM, Lara Bunte wrote:

Hi

You wrote:


Two blocks of dihedrals are normal output for pdb2gmx - one for proper
and one for improper dihedrals.



Is there a way to force pdb2gmx that there is only my block with improper 
dihedrals in the topology?



Normally pdb2gmx will generate proper dihedrals based on bonded connectivity. 
Is there some reason to believe you should not have dihedrals?  That doesn't 
make much physical sense.




Could that be a problem in further calculations, i.e. energy minimization if 
there is this empty [ dihedrals ] block in the topology?



What you've been defining as empty is not necessarily so.  The fact that 
parameters are not explicitly printed is not inherently indicative of a problem, 
since the parameters are looked up from ffbonded.itp and not necessarily 
recapitulated in the topology.  If you get fatal errors about missing 
parameters, that's a separate issue.





[ bondedtypes ]
; bonds  angles  dihedrals  impropers
1   1  5  5


Those are angle, dihedral and improper function types that are abnormal
for CHARMM27. Using these in your .rtp means that you are no longer
using CHARMM27. It might be reasonable for you to do this, but you need
to be absolutely sure why. Importing a topology from another force field
is not an acceptable reason.


What would be the correct numbers in the [ bondedtypes ] for using CHARMM27 
force field?



Look in charmm27.ff/aminoacids.rtp.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] topology file in DPPC

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 10:47 AM, scapr...@uniroma3.it wrote:

Dear all,
I'm meticulously following the tutorial KALP-15 in DPPC in order to carry
on the simulation of a protein of mine in a extended patch of DPPC. I have
already modified the ffnonbonded.itp and ffbonded.itp. At this point I'm
reading that I should change my topology file but I'm not able to find
within my topology file (obtained by using pdb2gmx on my protein)
#includegromos53a6.ff/forcefield.itpstatement so as to replace this line
with #include gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp, as reported in the
tutorial.
Indeed, at the top of my topology file I have got;

; Include forcefield parameters
#include ffG53a6.itp

and, after the list of all atoms,  at the bottom of the file;

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Include water topology
#include spc.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include generic topology for ions
#include ions.itp

[ system ]
; Name
PHOSPHOLIPASE A2, AMMODYTOXIN A

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
Protein_A   1

I'm wondering if it may depend on the fact I have got the version
gromacs-4.0.7 and not the version 4.5.3 or newer or if I have to change
some options when I launch the command pdb2gmx in order to build my
topology file. I used the following command:

pdb2gmx -f 3G8G.pdb -o 3G8G_membr.gro  -p 3G8G_membr.top  -i
3G8G_membr.itp -ignh -water spc

and I chose GROMOS96 53A6

Please, let me know.



The problem is you're using an old version.  The tutorial states that you are 
expected to be using a version in the 4.5.x series.  If you don't, then the 
procedure will be somewhat different.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] parameters and restrains for Fe3+

2012-05-15 Thread Carla
Hi,
I need to introduce new atomtypes/parameters and restrains in Gromacs for
Fe3+. Could you please inform me on how can I do it?
Thanks.

Cheers,
Carla 

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Re: [gmx-users] about trifloroehanol

2012-05-15 Thread rama david
Thank you Justin ..
I will follow your Instructions ..
With Best Wishes,

R.David
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[gmx-users] topology file in DPPC

2012-05-15 Thread scaprari
Dear all,
I'm meticulously following the tutorial KALP-15 in DPPC in order to carry
on the simulation of a protein of mine in a extended patch of DPPC. I have
already modified the ffnonbonded.itp and ffbonded.itp. At this point I'm
reading that I should change my topology file but I'm not able to find
within my topology file (obtained by using pdb2gmx on my protein)
#includegromos53a6.ff/forcefield.itpstatement so as to replace this line
with #include gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp, as reported in the
tutorial.
Indeed, at the top of my topology file I have got;

; Include forcefield parameters
#include ffG53a6.itp

and, after the list of all atoms,  at the bottom of the file;

; Include Position restraint file
#ifdef POSRES
#include posre.itp
#endif

; Include water topology
#include spc.itp

#ifdef POSRES_WATER
; Position restraint for each water oxygen
[ position_restraints ]
;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
   11   1000   1000   1000
#endif

; Include generic topology for ions
#include ions.itp

[ system ]
; Name
PHOSPHOLIPASE A2, AMMODYTOXIN A

[ molecules ]
; Compound#mols
Protein_A   1

I'm wondering if it may depend on the fact I have got the version  
gromacs-4.0.7 and not the version 4.5.3 or newer or if I have to change
some options when I launch the command pdb2gmx in order to build my
topology file. I used the following command:

pdb2gmx -f 3G8G.pdb -o 3G8G_membr.gro  -p 3G8G_membr.top  -i
3G8G_membr.itp -ignh -water spc

and I chose GROMOS96 53A6

Please, let me know.

Silvia

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Re: [gmx-users] topology file in DPPC

2012-05-15 Thread scaprari
Do you know where  I should look to find the solution to my problem?

Silvia




 On 5/15/12 10:47 AM, scapr...@uniroma3.it wrote:
 Dear all,
 I'm meticulously following the tutorial KALP-15 in DPPC in order to
 carry
 on the simulation of a protein of mine in a extended patch of DPPC. I
 have
 already modified the ffnonbonded.itp and ffbonded.itp. At this point I'm
 reading that I should change my topology file but I'm not able to find
 within my topology file (obtained by using pdb2gmx on my protein)
 #includegromos53a6.ff/forcefield.itpstatement so as to replace this
 line
 with #include gromos53a6_lipid.ff/forcefield.itp, as reported in the
 tutorial.
 Indeed, at the top of my topology file I have got;

 ; Include forcefield parameters
 #include ffG53a6.itp

 and, after the list of all atoms,  at the bottom of the file;

 ; Include Position restraint file
 #ifdef POSRES
 #include posre.itp
 #endif

 ; Include water topology
 #include spc.itp

 #ifdef POSRES_WATER
 ; Position restraint for each water oxygen
 [ position_restraints ]
 ;  i funct   fcxfcyfcz
 11   1000   1000   1000
 #endif

 ; Include generic topology for ions
 #include ions.itp

 [ system ]
 ; Name
 PHOSPHOLIPASE A2, AMMODYTOXIN A

 [ molecules ]
 ; Compound#mols
 Protein_A   1

 I'm wondering if it may depend on the fact I have got the version
 gromacs-4.0.7 and not the version 4.5.3 or newer or if I have to change
 some options when I launch the command pdb2gmx in order to build my
 topology file. I used the following command:

 pdb2gmx -f 3G8G.pdb -o 3G8G_membr.gro  -p 3G8G_membr.top  -i
 3G8G_membr.itp -ignh -water spc

 and I chose GROMOS96 53A6

 Please, let me know.


 The problem is you're using an old version.  The tutorial states that you
 are
 expected to be using a version in the 4.5.x series.  If you don't, then
 the
 procedure will be somewhat different.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] topology file in DPPC

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 11:11 AM, scapr...@uniroma3.it wrote:

Do you know where  I should look to find the solution to my problem?



The entire procedure for modifying the force field is different, as the 
directory structure and file names are very different.  The best solution is to 
upgrade your Gromacs version and follow the tutorial directly.


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Re: [gmx-users] about trifloroehanol

2012-05-15 Thread rama david
Thank you justin..
I will try to adhere spacing
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Re: [gmx-users] Two [ dihedrals ] sections in topology

2012-05-15 Thread Lara Bunte
Hi

You wrote:

Two blocks of dihedrals are normal output for pdb2gmx - one for proper 
and one for improper dihedrals.


Is there a way to force pdb2gmx that there is only my block with improper 
dihedrals in the topology?


Could that be a problem in further calculations, i.e. energy minimization if 
there is this empty [ dihedrals ] block in the topology?


 [ bondedtypes ]
 ; bonds  angles  dihedrals  impropers
       1       1          5          5

Those are angle, dihedral and improper function types that are abnormal 
for CHARMM27. Using these in your .rtp means that you are no longer 
using CHARMM27. It might be reasonable for you to do this, but you need 
to be absolutely sure why. Importing a topology from another force field 
is not an acceptable reason.

What would be the correct numbers in the [ bondedtypes ] for using CHARMM27 
force field?

Thanks

Greetings

Lara







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An: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
CC: 
Gesendet: 12:57 Dienstag, 15.Mai 2012
Betreff: Re: [gmx-users] Two [ dihedrals ] sections in topology

On 15/05/2012 8:47 PM, Lara Bunte wrote:
 Hi

 After pdb2gmx I have two [ dihedrals ] sections in my topology. The first 
 block is empty, the second block is correct with my parameters.


 An an example:


 First block:
 [ dihedrals ]
 ;  ai    aj    ak    al funct            c0            c1            c2       
      c3            c4            c5
      2     1    19     8     5
      6     8     9    10     5


 Second block:
 [ dihedrals ]
 ;  ai    aj    ak    al funct            c0            c1            c2       
      c3
      1     8     6     4     5    180   100
      1     2     4     5     5    180   100


 What could be the reason for this? What do I have to change in my force field 
 folder (CHARMM27) to fix this?

Two blocks of dihedrals are normal output for pdb2gmx - one for proper 
and one for improper dihedrals.


 In my .rtp file in the force field folder I have only this section for 
 dihedrals

 [ impropers ]
 O4     N1      C2       N3     180   100
 N1     C2      N3       H3     180   100

This produces your second block of type 5 dihedrals, given what you have 
said below.



 I declared my [ bondedtypes ] as the following:

 [ bondedtypes ]
 ; bonds  angles  dihedrals  impropers
       1       1          5          5

Those are angle, dihedral and improper function types that are abnormal 
for CHARMM27. Using these in your .rtp means that you are no longer 
using CHARMM27. It might be reasonable for you to do this, but you need 
to be absolutely sure why. Importing a topology from another force field 
is not an acceptable reason.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] about trifloroehanol

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 8:25 AM, rama david wrote:

  Hi all

  Very sorry for my stupid question .. I really work a lot on these problem

I wish to use Trifluroethanol  as solvent  for
my study ...

I Check the top file for G96 53a6 ff

It shows TFE with following lines ...


[ TFE ]
  [ atoms ]
HT H 0.41000 0
OT  OTFE-0.62500 0
  CH2T CHTFE 0.27300 0
CT  CTFE 0.45200 0
   F1T  FTFE-0.17000 0
   F2T  FTFE-0.17000 0
   F3T  FTFE-0.17000 0
  [ bonds ]
HTOTgb_1
OT  CH2Tgb_18
  CH2TCTgb_27
CT   F1Tgb_13
CT   F2Tgb_13
CT   F3Tgb_13
  [ angles ]
;  aiajak   gromos type
HTOT  CH2T ga_50
OT  CH2TCT ga_51
  CH2TCT   F1T ga_52
  CH2TCT   F2T ga_52
  CH2TCT   F3T ga_52
   F1TCT   F2T ga_49
   F1TCT   F3T ga_49
   F2TCT   F3T ga_49
  [ impropers ]
;  aiajakal   gromos type
  [ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal   gromos type
HTOT  CH2TCT gd_24


I draw  TFE with Avogadro software...

I get following pdb  ..

COMPNDUNNAMED
AUTHORGENERATED BY OPEN BABEL 2.3.0
HETATM1  C   LIG 1  -7.301   3.857   0.070  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM2  C   LIG 1  -6.798   2.416   0.102  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM3  F   LIG 1  -8.626   3.915   0.327  1.00  0.00   F
HETATM4  F   LIG 1  -7.094   4.399  -1.153  1.00  0.00   F
HETATM5  F   LIG 1  -6.668   4.631   0.977  1.00  0.00   F
HETATM6  O   LIG 1  -5.426   2.272  -0.294  1.00  0.00   O
HETATM7  H   LIG 1  -7.399   1.800  -0.574  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM8  H   LIG 1  -6.898   2.006   1.111  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM9  H   LIG 1  -5.299   2.795  -1.107  1.00  0.00   H
CONECT12345
CONECT1
CONECT21678
CONECT2
CONECT31
CONECT41
CONECT51
CONECT629
CONECT72
CONECT82
CONECT96
MASTER000000009090
END


I change pdb as follow to match the nomenclature with G96 53a6 ff
(Is it right or wrong )

OMPNDUNNAMED
AUTHORGENERATED BY OPEN BABEL 2.3.0
HETATM1   CT   TFE 1  -7.301   3.857   0.070  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM2 CH2T   TFE 1  -6.798   2.416   0.102  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM3  F1T   TFE 1  -8.626   3.915   0.327  1.00  0.00   F
HETATM4  F2T   TFE 1  -7.094   4.399  -1.153  1.00  0.00   F
HETATM5  F3T   TFE 1  -6.668   4.631   0.977  1.00  0.00   F
HETATM6   OT   TFE 1  -5.426   2.272  -0.294  1.00  0.00   O
HETATM7H   TFE 1  -7.399   1.800  -0.574  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM8H   TFE 1  -6.898   2.006   1.111  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM9   HT   TFE 1  -5.299   2.795  -1.107  1.00  0.00   H
CONECT12345

AFTER running pdb2gmx -ignh

  I got following error 

--
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: /build/buildd/gromacs-4.5.4/src/kernel/resall.c, line: 581

Fatal error:
Residue 'F' not found in residue topology database
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

I tried a lot ...
Please give me some suggestion ...
Thank you in Advance ...



The column spacing of a .pdb file is fixed and you must adhere to it.  The 
changes you have made look fine, but they are spaced incorrectly, thus pdb2gmx 
is not able to correctly read its contents.


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[gmx-users] NVT conserved-energy lysozyme

2012-05-15 Thread David de Sancho
Dear all
I have been following Justin Lemkul's tutorial for the lysozyme simulations
http://bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/lysozyme/index.html
I am using Gromacs 4.5.5.

My concern is with the energy conservation in the implementation of Bussi's
velocity-rescaling thermostat. In step 6 of the tutorial an NVT
equilibration is run using tcoupl = V-rescale. The temperature equilibrates
quite rapidly as shown in Justin's webpage. Essentially, T fluctuates
around its equilibrium value after ~ 2 ps. However looking at the
conserved energy I find that there is a drift that does not seem to
plateau even by the end of the 100 ps run (see attachment).

I have tried to sort this out myself by using the following settings:
(1) change lincs_iter from 1 to 2.
(2) change from PME to PME-Switch, which for NVE Gromacs recommends as more
accurate (I also modified: rlist=1.0, rcoulomb=1.0, rvdw=1.4).
(3) change to vdwtype = Shift, so that errors due to cutoffs were
eliminated.
None of this seems to help.

Actually Justin himself has helped me and found that with the following
settings the conservation is considerably better
=== shift settings ===
vdwtype = shift
coulombtype = PME
rlist = 1.4
rcoulomb = 1.4
rvdw = 1.0
rvdw_switch = 0.8
Still there is a drift in the conserved quantity which seems a quite
severe problem.

Can anyone give some pointers on how to sort this out?
Thanks


-David
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Re: [gmx-users] ATB SWISSPARAM Topologies

2012-05-15 Thread Anirban
Thanks a lot Justin!

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 5/15/12 5:54 AM, Anirban wrote:

 Hi ALL,

 How accurate are the topologies of non-standard molecules generated by
 ATB or
 SWISSPARAM for GROMACS? Are they acceptable for publications? Are we
 required to
 carry out manual checks like that required for PRODRG outputs?
 Any suggestion is welcome.


 I would always verify parameters before running real production
 simulations.  I believe ATB and SwissParam are, in general, far more
 reliable than PRODRG, but I doubt it can be stated universally that any
 automated method is inherently flawless.

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[gmx-users] Problem in visualizing protein-ion complex trajectory in vmd

2012-05-15 Thread neeru sharma
Dear gromacs users,

I am running steered MD simulation using Plumed plugin in gromacs for a
system consisting of Protein-Mg-GTP complex. I have to calculate the
distance of specific atoms with Mg and GTP.

While visualizing the trajectories using vmd, I am encountering some
problems.

1) While using the -pbc flag with whole option, the protein is
visualized properly, but the Mg and GTP are showing jumps moving away from
the protein structure. That is why, the distance between Mg, GTP with atoms
of the protein is not coming out properly.

2) While using the -pbc flag with nojump option, the protein is visible
in stretched and distorted geometry, but the Mg and GTP are intact with the
structure. Here, the distance between Mg,GTP with atoms of the protein is
calculated correctly.

3) Then, I tried with both the whole and nojump options,used in succession
(first whole and then nojump), but still the protein is not visualized
properly. It is visible in stretched geometry only, as was visible with
nojump.

Can anyone help me regarding the problems I am facing with the
visualization? Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Regards,

Neeru
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Re: [gmx-users] NVT conserved-energy lysozyme

2012-05-15 Thread Dommert Florian
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 09:17 +0100, David de Sancho wrote:
 Dear all
 I have been following Justin Lemkul's tutorial for the lysozyme
 simulations
 http://bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/lysozyme/index.html
 I am using Gromacs 4.5.5. 

Compiled in double or single precision ? If the latter one is the case,
perhaps numerical errors are the reason for the large energy drift.

/Flo

 
 
 My concern is with the energy conservation in the implementation of
 Bussi's velocity-rescaling thermostat. In step 6 of the tutorial an
 NVT equilibration is run using tcoupl = V-rescale. The temperature
 equilibrates quite rapidly as shown in Justin's webpage. Essentially,
 T fluctuates around its equilibrium value after ~ 2 ps. However
 looking at the conserved energy I find that there is a drift that
 does not seem to plateau even by the end of the 100 ps run (see
 attachment).
 
 
 I have tried to sort this out myself by using the following settings:
 (1) change lincs_iter from 1 to 2.
 (2) change from PME to PME-Switch, which for NVE Gromacs recommends as
 more accurate (I also modified: rlist=1.0, rcoulomb=1.0, rvdw=1.4).
 (3) change to vdwtype = Shift, so that errors due to cutoffs were
 eliminated.
 None of this seems to help.
 
 
 Actually Justin himself has helped me and found that with the
 following settings the conservation is considerably better
 === shift settings ===
 vdwtype = shift
 coulombtype = PME
 rlist = 1.4
 rcoulomb = 1.4
 rvdw = 1.0
 rvdw_switch = 0.8
 Still there is a drift in the conserved quantity which seems a quite
 severe problem.
 
 
 Can anyone give some pointers on how to sort this out?
 Thanks
 
 
 
 -David
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Re: [gmx-users] Generating_tpr_file from.xtc

2012-05-15 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Shahid,

You probably have a matching .top file lying around? You can use it
with the .gro file to regenerate the .tpr. Note that most analysis can
also be run with a .gro/.pdb file.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

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 On 5/15/12 10:28 AM, shahid nayeem wrote:

 Dear users
 By mistake I have deleted my .tpr file after running simulation. Is it
 possible
 to generate .tpr file from .xtc .gro .log and .ene file of final
 production run.


 No.  None of those files have the required topology information.

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Re: [gmx-users] Generating_tpr_file from.xtc

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 10:28 AM, shahid nayeem wrote:

Dear users
By mistake I have deleted my .tpr file after running simulation. Is it possible
to generate .tpr file from .xtc .gro .log and .ene file of final production run.


No.  None of those files have the required topology information.

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Re: [gmx-users] Test Particle Insertion

2012-05-15 Thread Javier Cerezo

Hi Steven.

1. Why this value is divided by nm3? Shall I multiply it by the 
simulation box?
It is not not divided by nm3. The legend for y axis is not appropriate 
for your plot. Keep in mind that the same graph is used to represent 
lots of quantities (you can plot all of them with xmgrace -nxy tpi.xvg). 
The y axis is not the same for all, but only one label is possible, so 
developers have to chose which label to place on the axis. But this is 
just a label, don't give much importance to it and analyse you results 
(including units) according to the equations and the standard units in 
gromacs.
2. Why e^(-BU) is multiplied by V? I just want to have the excess 
chemical potential: u=-kTlog(e ^ (-deltaU*B) - so how can I get deltaU?
The volume appears in the expression of the excess chemical potential if 
you are running a NpT ensemble. The second plot (if you use xmgrace -nxy 
tpi.xvg) does not contain the volume.
3. The value corresponds to the plateau so I should run it for longer 
time?
You are getting a timeensemble average and for large sampling (and 
large simulation times), this average should converge. So, the final 
value you will get is the last point of the graph, it up to you to say 
if it is converged. So you can try to enlarge the number of points 
sampled, if the shape does not change you are sampling correctly every 
snapshot, then take longer simulation times if you want to converge your 
results.


Javier


El 15/05/12 09:57, Steven Neumann escribió:



On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 5/14/12 11:53 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

Dear Gmx Users,

Did anyone use TPI method for the calculation of chemical
potential? The tpi.xvg
files consists of:

@ s0 legend -kT log(Ve\S-\xb\f{}U\N/V)
@ s1 legend f. -kT loge\S-\xb\f{}U\N
@ s2 legend f. e\S-\xb\f{}U\N
@ s3 legend f. V
@ s4 legend f. Ue\S-\xb\f{}U\N
@ s5 legend f. U\sVdW System\Ne\S-\xb\f{}U\N
@ s6 legend f. U\sdisp c\Ne\S-\xb\f{}U\N
@ s7 legend f. U\sCoul System\Ne\S-\xb\f{}U\N
@ s8 legend f. U\sCoul recip\Ne\S-\xb\f{}U\N

@xaxis  label Time (ps)
@yaxis  label (kJ mol\S-1\N) / (nm\S3\N)

Can anyone explain me these legends? I just want obtain a
value of the excess
chemical potential according to the equation:
u=-kT log (-deltaV/kT), Which legend is responsible for this
and what are the
units? kJ/mol? Please, explain as the above letters does not
mean to me anything?


These strings are formatted for XmGrace.  Have you tried plotting
the file to see what it contains?  The legends will be far more
obvious if you do.

-Justin


Thank you Justin.
Can anyone explain me from the plot:

http://speedy.sh/Xpnws/tpi.JPG

1. Why this value is divided by nm3? Shall I multiply it by the 
simulation box?
2. Why e^(-BU) is multiplied by V? I just want to have the excess 
chemical potential: u=-kTlog(e ^ (-deltaU*B) - so how can I get deltaU?
3. The value corresponds to the plateau so I should run it for longer 
time?



Thank you,

Steven


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Re: [gmx-users] about the frame selection

2012-05-15 Thread Anirban
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:26 AM, rama david ramadavidgr...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Gromacs Users ,
I simulated a  4 peptide in a box .
  After completion of 30 ns simulattion , I extract
 the particular time frame 29000 ps of my interest.
  Now I want these  frame for  my next simulations
 study ..
 In one simulation I want to keep the box size same as the
 mentioned in extracted pdb  and in another one  I need to change the size
 of box to
 70 70 70


 REMARKGENERATED BY TRJCONV
 TITLE Protein in water t= 29000.0
 REMARKTHIS IS A SIMULATION BOX
 CRYST1   45.096   45.096   45.096  90.00  90.00  90.00 P 1   1
 MODEL1

   So  my queries are like

 1. Should I used the extracted frame directly for further study or
 I need to remove the periodicity...??


I think its better to remove the periodicity when you are going to start a
fresh simulation with this protein.



  2 . to change the box size how to proceed ??
  Should I delete the line manually and adjust the box size


You can change the box dimensions with editconf using the -box (desired
dimensions) option.

-Anirban



 All suggestion are welcome ...


 Than you in advance

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[gmx-users] about trifloroehanol

2012-05-15 Thread rama david
 Hi all

 Very sorry for my stupid question .. I really work a lot on these problem

I wish to use Trifluroethanol  as solvent  for
my study ...

I Check the top file for G96 53a6 ff

It shows TFE with following lines ...


[ TFE ]
 [ atoms ]
   HT H 0.41000 0
   OT  OTFE-0.62500 0
 CH2T CHTFE 0.27300 0
   CT  CTFE 0.45200 0
  F1T  FTFE-0.17000 0
  F2T  FTFE-0.17000 0
  F3T  FTFE-0.17000 0
 [ bonds ]
   HTOTgb_1
   OT  CH2Tgb_18
 CH2TCTgb_27
   CT   F1Tgb_13
   CT   F2Tgb_13
   CT   F3Tgb_13
 [ angles ]
;  aiajak   gromos type
   HTOT  CH2T ga_50
   OT  CH2TCT ga_51
 CH2TCT   F1T ga_52
 CH2TCT   F2T ga_52
 CH2TCT   F3T ga_52
  F1TCT   F2T ga_49
  F1TCT   F3T ga_49
  F2TCT   F3T ga_49
 [ impropers ]
;  aiajakal   gromos type
 [ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal   gromos type
   HTOT  CH2TCT gd_24


I draw  TFE with Avogadro software...

I get following pdb  ..

COMPNDUNNAMED
AUTHORGENERATED BY OPEN BABEL 2.3.0
HETATM1  C   LIG 1  -7.301   3.857   0.070  1.00
0.00   C
HETATM2  C   LIG 1  -6.798   2.416   0.102  1.00
0.00   C
HETATM3  F   LIG 1  -8.626   3.915   0.327  1.00
0.00   F
HETATM4  F   LIG 1  -7.094   4.399  -1.153  1.00
0.00   F
HETATM5  F   LIG 1  -6.668   4.631   0.977  1.00
0.00   F
HETATM6  O   LIG 1  -5.426   2.272  -0.294  1.00
0.00   O
HETATM7  H   LIG 1  -7.399   1.800  -0.574  1.00
0.00   H
HETATM8  H   LIG 1  -6.898   2.006   1.111  1.00
0.00   H
HETATM9  H   LIG 1  -5.299   2.795  -1.107  1.00
0.00   H
CONECT12345
CONECT1
CONECT21678
CONECT2
CONECT31
CONECT41
CONECT51
CONECT629
CONECT72
CONECT82
CONECT96
MASTER000000009090
END


I change pdb as follow to match the nomenclature with G96 53a6 ff
(Is it right or wrong )

OMPNDUNNAMED
AUTHORGENERATED BY OPEN BABEL 2.3.0
HETATM1   CT   TFE 1  -7.301   3.857   0.070  1.00
0.00   C
HETATM2 CH2T   TFE 1  -6.798   2.416   0.102  1.00
0.00   C
HETATM3  F1T   TFE 1  -8.626   3.915   0.327  1.00
0.00   F
HETATM4  F2T   TFE 1  -7.094   4.399  -1.153  1.00
0.00   F
HETATM5  F3T   TFE 1  -6.668   4.631   0.977  1.00
0.00   F
HETATM6   OT   TFE 1  -5.426   2.272  -0.294  1.00
0.00   O
HETATM7H   TFE 1  -7.399   1.800  -0.574  1.00
0.00   H
HETATM8H   TFE 1  -6.898   2.006   1.111  1.00
0.00   H
HETATM9   HT   TFE 1  -5.299   2.795  -1.107  1.00
0.00   H
CONECT12345

AFTER running pdb2gmx -ignh

 I got following error 

--
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: /build/buildd/gromacs-4.5.4/src/kernel/resall.c, line: 581

Fatal error:
Residue 'F' not found in residue topology database
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

I tried a lot ...
Please give me some suggestion ...
Thank you in Advance ...


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Re: [gmx-users] about trifloroehanol

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 9:54 AM, rama david wrote:

Hi to all


Sorry Justin , I try to correct spacing but now it stuck to another problem

pdb to TFE is as follow

OMPNDUNNAMED
AUTHORGENERATED BY OPEN BABEL 2.3.0
ATOM  1 CT   TFE 1  -5.510   2.534   0.093  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM  2 CH2T TFE 1  -6.061   1.111   0.155  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM  3 F1T  TFE 1  -5.017   2.899   1.300  1.00  0.00   F
ATOM  4  F2T TFE 1  -6.461   3.426  -0.251  1.00  0.00   F
ATOM  5  F3T TFE 1  -4.506   2.627  -0.806  1.00  0.00   F
ATOM  6   OT TFE 1  -7.065   0.921   1.164  1.00  0.00   O
ATOM  7H TFE 1  -5.248   0.409   0.367  1.00  0.00   H
ATOM  8H TFE 1  -6.500   0.837  -0.808  1.00  0.00   H
ATOM  9  HT  TFE 1  -6.742   1.339   1.982  1.00  0.00   H


The spacing in this file is still potentially problematic.


CONECT12345
CONECT1
CONECT21678
CONECT2
CONECT31
CONECT41
CONECT51
CONECT629
CONECT72
CONECT82
CONECT96
MASTER000000009090
END


after giving pdb2gmx -ignh



If you delete the two extraneous H atoms in the .pdb file and omit -ignh, you 
won't have this problem.



It give following error
WARNING: atom HT is missing in residue TFE 1 in the pdb file
  You might need to add atom HT to the hydrogen database of building
block TFE
  in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)


---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: /build/buildd/gromacs-4.5.4/src/kernel/pdb2top.c, line: 1463

Fatal error:
There were 1 missing atoms in molecule Other, if you want to use this incomplete
topology anyhow, use the option -missing
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

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  now I know go with missing is wrong ..But to check error I goes with -missing
flag .
the output confo.gro  is as follow

UNNAMED
 6
 1TFE OT1  -0.706   0.092   0.116
 1TFE   CH2T2  -0.606   0.111   0.015
 1TFE CT3  -0.551   0.253   0.009
 1TFEF1T4  -0.502   0.290   0.130
 1TFEF2T5  -0.646   0.343  -0.025
 1TFEF3T6  -0.451   0.263  -0.081
0.25590   0.25050   0.21060

The hydrogen attched to oxyge is missing ..
The entry to these hydrogen as HT is mentioned in pdb file ...

The warning message is self-explanatory.
I will be a very greatfull to you if you told me how to add HT
in aminoacids.hdb
Aminoacids.hdb file is as follow 

SER 2
11HN-CCA
12HGOGCBCA
*TFE 1
12HOCH2C*


The corrected line would read:

12HTOTCH2TCT

This is a small bug that should probably be fixed, though in your case, with 
proper input, use of the .hdb file is unnecessary.


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[gmx-users] DNA persistence length with g_polystat

2012-05-15 Thread Leandro
Dear Gromacs users,

I am doing MD simulation of DNA oligomers and need to calculate their
persistence length. Using g_polystat with -p persist.xvg I discovered that
the output file contains a lot of nan values among other values of numbers
of bonds. As far as I understood reading this forum, there were other people
who also had nan-problems using g_polystat. Is there a bug in g_polystat
function or I am doing something wrong? I am using DNA index group that I
believe is appropriate for calculation of DNA backbone persistence length.
Thank you!   

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Re: [gmx-users] about trifloroehanol

2012-05-15 Thread rama david
Hi to all


Sorry Justin , I try to correct spacing but now it stuck to another problem

pdb to TFE is as follow

OMPNDUNNAMED
AUTHORGENERATED BY OPEN BABEL 2.3.0
ATOM  1 CT   TFE 1  -5.510   2.534   0.093  1.00
0.00   C
ATOM  2 CH2T TFE 1  -6.061   1.111   0.155  1.00
0.00   C
ATOM  3 F1T  TFE 1  -5.017   2.899   1.300  1.00
0.00   F
ATOM  4  F2T TFE 1  -6.461   3.426  -0.251  1.00
0.00   F
ATOM  5  F3T TFE 1  -4.506   2.627  -0.806  1.00
0.00   F
ATOM  6   OT TFE 1  -7.065   0.921   1.164  1.00
0.00   O
ATOM  7H TFE 1  -5.248   0.409   0.367  1.00
0.00   H
ATOM  8H TFE 1  -6.500   0.837  -0.808  1.00
0.00   H
ATOM  9  HT  TFE 1  -6.742   1.339   1.982  1.00
0.00   H
CONECT12345
CONECT1
CONECT21678
CONECT2
CONECT31
CONECT41
CONECT51
CONECT629
CONECT72
CONECT82
CONECT96
MASTER000000009090
END


after giving pdb2gmx -ignh

It give following error
WARNING: atom HT is missing in residue TFE 1 in the pdb file
 You might need to add atom HT to the hydrogen database of building
block TFE
 in the file aminoacids.hdb (see the manual)


---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: /build/buildd/gromacs-4.5.4/src/kernel/pdb2top.c, line:
1463

Fatal error:
There were 1 missing atoms in molecule Other, if you want to use this
incomplete topology anyhow, use the option -missing
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

---
 now I know go with missing is wrong ..But to check error I goes with
-missing flag .
the output confo.gro  is as follow

UNNAMED
6
1TFE OT1  -0.706   0.092   0.116
1TFE   CH2T2  -0.606   0.111   0.015
1TFE CT3  -0.551   0.253   0.009
1TFEF1T4  -0.502   0.290   0.130
1TFEF2T5  -0.646   0.343  -0.025
1TFEF3T6  -0.451   0.263  -0.081
   0.25590   0.25050   0.21060

The hydrogen attched to oxyge is missing ..
The entry to these hydrogen as HT is mentioned in pdb file ...

The warning message is self-explanatory.
I will be a very greatfull to you if you told me how to add HT
in aminoacids.hdb
Aminoacids.hdb file is as follow 

SER 2
11HN-CCA
12HGOGCBCA
*TFE 1
12HOCH2C*
THR 2
11HN-CCA
12HG1OG1CBCA
TRP 7
11HN-CCA
11HD1CD1CGNE1

So What line I have to add here???

Please suggest me the way out to get rid from error ..


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Re: [gmx-users] about the frame selection

2012-05-15 Thread rama david
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Anirban reach.anirban.gh...@gmail.comwrote:




 Thank you Anirban I proceed as you

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[gmx-users] How to calculate the center of the mass in gromacs

2012-05-15 Thread xu zhijun
Is there the simple method to calculate the center of the mass for a group of 
atoms?
I want to post-process the traj date file.

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[gmx-users] Generating_tpr_file from.xtc

2012-05-15 Thread shahid nayeem
Dear users
By mistake I have deleted my .tpr file after running simulation. Is it
possible to generate .tpr file from .xtc .gro .log and .ene file of final
production run.
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Re: [gmx-users] about the frame selection

2012-05-15 Thread rama david
Thank you ANIRBAN for your reply ..


 I think its better to remove the periodicity when you are going to start a
 fresh simulation with this protein.
   Could you told me how to remove the periodicity ???




 Thank you in advance ...





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Re: [gmx-users] Test Particle Insertion

2012-05-15 Thread Steven Neumann
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 5/14/12 11:53 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:

 Dear Gmx Users,

 Did anyone use TPI method for the calculation of chemical potential? The
 tpi.xvg
 files consists of:

 @ s0 legend -kT log(Ve\S-\xb\f{}U\N/V)
 @ s1 legend f. -kT loge\S-\xb\f{}U\N
 @ s2 legend f. e\S-\xb\f{}U\N
 @ s3 legend f. V
 @ s4 legend f. Ue\S-\xb\f{}U\N
 @ s5 legend f. U\sVdW System\Ne\S-\xb\f{}U\N
 @ s6 legend f. U\sdisp c\Ne\S-\xb\f{}U\N
 @ s7 legend f. U\sCoul System\Ne\S-\xb\f{}U\N
 @ s8 legend f. U\sCoul recip\Ne\S-\xb\f{}U\N

 @xaxis  label Time (ps)
 @yaxis  label (kJ mol\S-1\N) / (nm\S3\N)

 Can anyone explain me these legends? I just want obtain a value of the
 excess
 chemical potential according to the equation:
 u=-kT log (-deltaV/kT), Which legend is responsible for this and what are
 the
 units? kJ/mol? Please, explain as the above letters does not mean to me
 anything?


 These strings are formatted for XmGrace.  Have you tried plotting the file
 to see what it contains?  The legends will be far more obvious if you do.

 -Justin


Thank you Justin.
Can anyone explain me from the plot:

http://speedy.sh/Xpnws/tpi.JPG

1. Why this value is divided by nm3? Shall I multiply it by the simulation
box?
2. Why e^(-BU) is multiplied by V? I just want to have the excess chemical
potential: u=-kTlog(e ^ (-deltaU*B) - so how can I get deltaU?
3. The value corresponds to the plateau so I should run it for longer time?


Thank you,

Steven



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Re: [gmx-users] about the frame selection

2012-05-15 Thread Anirban
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:48 AM, rama david ramadavidgr...@gmail.comwrote:


 Thank you ANIRBAN for your reply ..


 I think its better to remove the periodicity when you are going to start
 a fresh simulation with this protein.
   Could you told me how to remove the periodicity ???


You can use trjconv with -pbc mol -ur compact options. But first look
into trjconv -h

-Anirban




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[gmx-users] Re: NVT conserved-energy lysozyme

2012-05-15 Thread daviddesancho
Thanks Florian and Mark for your replies.

I have run the simulation for longer (one order of magnitude longer, i.e. 1
ns) and what I get now is that the 'conserved energy' follows its drift
linearly. Now, of course, we are speaking about 1.2% drift/ns in the value
of the energy, which seems quite substantial.

http://gromacs.5086.n6.nabble.com/file/n4981453/equil_nvt.png 

Second, I have compiled and run with double precision. Although the value
for the conserved energy is slightly different, the slope of E vs time is
essentially identical.

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[gmx-users] ATB SWISSPARAM Topologies

2012-05-15 Thread Anirban
Hi ALL,

How accurate are the topologies of non-standard molecules generated by ATB
or SWISSPARAM for GROMACS? Are they acceptable for publications? Are we
required to carry out manual checks like that required for PRODRG outputs?
Any suggestion is welcome.


Thanks and regards,

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Re: [gmx-users] Problem in visualizing protein-ion complex trajectory in vmd

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Abraham

On 15/05/2012 10:22 PM, neeru sharma wrote:

Dear gromacs users,

I am running steered MD simulation using Plumed plugin in gromacs for 
a system consisting of Protein-Mg-GTP complex. I have to calculate the 
distance of specific atoms with Mg and GTP.


While visualizing the trajectories using vmd, I am encountering some 
problems.


1) While using the -pbc flag with whole option, the protein is 
visualized properly, but the Mg and GTP are showing jumps moving away 
from the protein structure. That is why, the distance between Mg, GTP 
with atoms of the protein is not coming out properly.


2) While using the -pbc flag with nojump option, the protein is 
visible in stretched and distorted geometry, but the Mg and GTP are 
intact with the structure. Here, the distance between Mg,GTP with 
atoms of the protein is calculated correctly.


3) Then, I tried with both the whole and nojump options,used in 
succession (first whole and then nojump), but still the protein is not 
visualized properly. It is visible in stretched geometry only, as was 
visible with nojump.


Can anyone help me regarding the problems I am facing with the 
visualization? Any help will be highly appreciated.


See suggestions here 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions. 
You will perhaps need to identify a frame where everything is in the 
box, and then choose a suitable (new?) group for the various operations, 
or do multiple passes with trjconv.


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[gmx-users] about the frame selection

2012-05-15 Thread rama david
Hi Gromacs Users ,
   I simulated a  4 peptide in a box .
 After completion of 30 ns simulattion , I extract
the particular time frame 29000 ps of my interest.
 Now I want these  frame for  my next simulations
study ..
In one simulation I want to keep the box size same as the
mentioned in extracted pdb  and in another one  I need to change the size
of box to
70 70 70


REMARKGENERATED BY TRJCONV
TITLE Protein in water t= 29000.0
REMARKTHIS IS A SIMULATION BOX
CRYST1   45.096   45.096   45.096  90.00  90.00  90.00 P 1   1
MODEL1

  So  my queries are like

1. Should I used the extracted frame directly for further study or
I need to remove the periodicity...??

 2 . to change the box size how to proceed ??
 Should I delete the line manually and adjust the box size


All suggestion are welcome ...


Than you in advance

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Re: [gmx-users] Two [ dihedrals ] sections in topology

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Abraham

On 15/05/2012 8:47 PM, Lara Bunte wrote:

Hi

After pdb2gmx I have two [ dihedrals ] sections in my topology. The first block 
is empty, the second block is correct with my parameters.


An an example:


First block:
[ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal functc0c1c2 
   c3c4c5
 2 119 8 5
 6 8 910 5


Second block:
[ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal functc0c1c2 
   c3
 1 8 6 4 5180   100
 1 2 4 5 5180   100


What could be the reason for this? What do I have to change in my force field 
folder (CHARMM27) to fix this?


Two blocks of dihedrals are normal output for pdb2gmx - one for proper 
and one for improper dihedrals.




In my .rtp file in the force field folder I have only this section for dihedrals

[ impropers ]
O4 N1  C2   N3 180   100
N1 C2  N3   H3 180   100


This produces your second block of type 5 dihedrals, given what you have 
said below.





I declared my [ bondedtypes ] as the following:

[ bondedtypes ]
; bonds  angles  dihedrals  impropers
  1   1  5  5


Those are angle, dihedral and improper function types that are abnormal 
for CHARMM27. Using these in your .rtp means that you are no longer 
using CHARMM27. It might be reasonable for you to do this, but you need 
to be absolutely sure why. Importing a topology from another force field 
is not an acceptable reason.


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[gmx-users] itp file for flavins

2012-05-15 Thread vijaya subramanian

Does anyone have itp files for oxidized, reduced and semiquinone states of FMN 
(flavin mononucleotide)?
I noticed gromacs is supposed to have rtp files for flavins, not sure how to 
access that.
Thanks
Vijaya

 Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 08:50:35 -0700
 From: daviddesan...@gmail.com
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] Re: NVT conserved-energy lysozyme
 
 Thanks Florian and Mark for your replies.
 
 I have run the simulation for longer (one order of magnitude longer, i.e. 1
 ns) and what I get now is that the 'conserved energy' follows its drift
 linearly. Now, of course, we are speaking about 1.2% drift/ns in the value
 of the energy, which seems quite substantial.
 
 http://gromacs.5086.n6.nabble.com/file/n4981453/equil_nvt.png 
 
 Second, I have compiled and run with double precision. Although the value
 for the conserved energy is slightly different, the slope of E vs time is
 essentially identical.
 
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[gmx-users] Two [ dihedrals ] sections in topology

2012-05-15 Thread Lara Bunte
Hi

After pdb2gmx I have two [ dihedrals ] sections in my topology. The first block 
is empty, the second block is correct with my parameters. 


An an example: 


First block:
[ dihedrals ]
;  ai    aj    ak    al funct    c0    c1    
c2    c3    c4    c5
    2 1    19 8 5
    6 8 9    10 5


Second block:
[ dihedrals ]
;  ai    aj    ak    al funct    c0    c1    
c2    c3
    1 8 6 4 5    180   100
    1 2 4 5 5    180   100


What could be the reason for this? What do I have to change in my force field 
folder (CHARMM27) to fix this?

In my .rtp file in the force field folder I have only this section for dihedrals

[ impropers ]
O4 N1  C2   N3 180   100
N1 C2  N3   H3 180   100


I declared my [ bondedtypes ] as the following:

[ bondedtypes ]
; bonds  angles  dihedrals  impropers
 1   1  5  5


Thanks for help
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[gmx-users] TFE Proper Dihedral types...

2012-05-15 Thread rama david
Hi Gromacs Friends ..

I am using TFE (Trifluro Ethanol ) as a solvent for my simulation study..
I am using G96 53a6 ff

After the genbox -cp .. -cs tef.pdb -o mix.pdb

I count the no of solvent molecule , to update
topology ..

after Grompp I am facing following error
grompp -f minim.mdp -c mix.pdb -o em.tpr -p final.top


ERROR 1 [file topol-tef.itp, line 46]:
  No default Proper Dih. types

Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein'
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'

---
Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: /build/buildd/gromacs-4.5.4/src/kernel/grompp.c, line:
1372

Fatal error:
There was 1 error in input file(s)
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---


I checked the topology for TFE, Dihedral section is as follow ...


*
[ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal functc0c1
c2c3c4c5
1 2 3 4 1gd_24
2 3 4 5 1*



 So what to resolve the problem ..
 All suggestions are welcome...

I will be a very greatfull to help 
Thank you in advance.
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Re: [gmx-users] ATB SWISSPARAM Topologies

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 5:54 AM, Anirban wrote:

Hi ALL,

How accurate are the topologies of non-standard molecules generated by ATB or
SWISSPARAM for GROMACS? Are they acceptable for publications? Are we required to
carry out manual checks like that required for PRODRG outputs?
Any suggestion is welcome.



I would always verify parameters before running real production simulations.  I 
believe ATB and SwissParam are, in general, far more reliable than PRODRG, but I 
doubt it can be stated universally that any automated method is inherently flawless.


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Re: [gmx-users] How to calculate the center of the mass in gromacs

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 11:35 AM, xu zhijun wrote:

Is there the simple method to calculate the center of the mass for a group of 
atoms?
I want to post-process the traj date file.



This is a function of g_traj.

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Re: [gmx-users] itp file for flavins

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul


Please do not reply to an existing thread to ask a new question; start a new 
thread instead.


On 5/15/12 12:03 PM, vijaya subramanian wrote:

Does anyone have itp files for oxidized, reduced and semiquinone states of FMN
(flavin mononucleotide)?
I noticed gromacs is supposed to have rtp files for flavins, not sure how to
access that.


The .rtp files are pdb2gmx input files, such that if you have a coordinate file 
containing one of these residues, it will produce a topology.  It is the same 
mechanism used for macromolecules like proteins and DNA.


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Re: [gmx-users] TFE Proper Dihedral types...

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 12:14 PM, rama david wrote:

Hi Gromacs Friends ..

I am using TFE (Trifluro Ethanol ) as a solvent for my simulation study..
I am using G96 53a6 ff

After the genbox -cp .. -cs tef.pdb -o mix.pdb

I count the no of solvent molecule , to update
topology ..

after Grompp I am facing following error
grompp -f minim.mdp -c mix.pdb -o em.tpr -p final.top


ERROR 1 [file topol-tef.itp, line 46]:
   No default Proper Dih. types

Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein'
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'

---
Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: /build/buildd/gromacs-4.5.4/src/kernel/grompp.c, line: 1372

Fatal error:
There was 1 error in input file(s)
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---


I checked the topology for TFE, Dihedral section is as follow ...


*
[ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal functc0c1
c2c3c4c5
 1 2 3 4 1gd_24
 2 3 4 5 1 *



  So what to resolve the problem ..
  All suggestions are welcome...



The parameters are missing from ffbonded.itp, making the implementation 
incomplete.  You can obtain a TFE topology from ATB:


http://compbio.biosci.uq.edu.au/atb/download.py?molid=1655

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Re: [gmx-users] How to calculate the center of the mass in gromacs

2012-05-15 Thread xu zhijun
Thanks a lot, Justin.
It works well.

Jerry

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From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] How to calculate the center of the mass in gromacs
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 12:51 PM



On 5/15/12 11:35 AM, xu zhijun wrote:
 Is there the simple method to calculate the center of the mass for a group of 
 atoms?
 I want to post-process the traj date file.
 

This is a function of g_traj.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] Questions about Thermostats

2012-05-15 Thread Lara Bunte
Hello

To make better energy minimization procedures I read about thermostats and 
barostats. I understand the physical concepts and differences between global 
and local thermostats and the difference between Berendsen and Nose-Hoover 
thermostat. 

1.) 
Maybe this question is a little bit hairsplitting, but: This concepts of 
thermostats and barostats, is this Thermodynamics, is this Kinetics, is this 
statistical physics? What is it if I want to give this a name.

2.)
I read, that local thermostats, i.e. stochastic dynamics produce a NVT 
ensemble, which is a canonical ensemble and that this alway fulfills Ergodicity 
Theorem. About this I have following question: In my literature they said, that 
this means, that all degrees of freedom in the system are coupled strong enough 
each other. This confuses me. I learned, that ergodicity means, that the 
complete phase space is passed by a trajectory, if we wait long enough. This 
means, that ensemble average is equal to time average of the system. Where is 
in my statement about ergodicity the meaning of all degrees of freedom in the 
system are coupled strong enough Do this in fact mean, that the complete phase 
space is passed?

3.)
I ask myself what I should use. First question: Local or global thermostat? I 
guess (not knowing, guessing), that global is better for energy minimization, 
because as far as I understand, it is more stable than local description. From 
a physical point of view I think Nose-Hoover shoul be always better, because it 
produces a real canonical ensemble, while Berendsen is microcanonical ensemble, 
which is totaly unrealistic?! In an microcanonical ensemble, energy is not 
changed with the enviroment. This makes no sense? 

Thanks for helping me
Greetings
Lara

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Re: [gmx-users] Two [ dihedrals ] sections in topology

2012-05-15 Thread Lara Bunte
Hi

Is there some reason to believe you should not have dihedrals?  That doesn't 
make much physical sense.

I want and have dihedrals in my topology. I don't want an additional empty 
dihedrals block in the topology. In my force field I gave impropers. 


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On 5/15/12 10:43 AM, Lara Bunte wrote:
 Hi

 You wrote:

 Two blocks of dihedrals are normal output for pdb2gmx - one for proper
 and one for improper dihedrals.


 Is there a way to force pdb2gmx that there is only my block with improper 
 dihedrals in the topology?


Normally pdb2gmx will generate proper dihedrals based on bonded connectivity. 
Is there some reason to believe you should not have dihedrals?  That doesn't 
make much physical sense.


 Could that be a problem in further calculations, i.e. energy minimization if 
 there is this empty [ dihedrals ] block in the topology?


What you've been defining as empty is not necessarily so.  The fact that 
parameters are not explicitly printed is not inherently indicative of a 
problem, 
since the parameters are looked up from ffbonded.itp and not necessarily 
recapitulated in the topology.  If you get fatal errors about missing 
parameters, that's a separate issue.


 [ bondedtypes ]
 ; bonds  angles  dihedrals  impropers
         1       1          5          5

 Those are angle, dihedral and improper function types that are abnormal
 for CHARMM27. Using these in your .rtp means that you are no longer
 using CHARMM27. It might be reasonable for you to do this, but you need
 to be absolutely sure why. Importing a topology from another force field
 is not an acceptable reason.

 What would be the correct numbers in the [ bondedtypes ] for using CHARMM27 
 force field?


Look in charmm27.ff/aminoacids.rtp.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] Measure angle with g_sgangle

2012-05-15 Thread Mast, Thilo
Hey.
I'm using Gromacs to simulate a transmembrane-peptide and would like to measure 
the angle between three residues of the protein. The protein gets during the 
simulation a kink of about 87°. I would like to measure the real angle of the 
kink with g_sgangle.
So I made an index file and defined two groups with:

a 5|a 248
name 17 group1

and

a 248|a 477
name 18 group2

The atom numbers are the C alpha atom of the N terminus, the AS where the kink 
is located and the C terminus.

Now I used g_sgangle to measure the angle between this two groups with:

g_sgangle -f md_27nstrjconv.trr -n g_sgangle.ndx -s md_27ns.tpr -oa sg_angle.xvg

Then I've chosen group1 and group2 (17 18).
The sg_angle.xvg looks like that:

@title Angle between group1 and group2
@xaxis  label Time (ps)
@yaxis  label Angle (degrees)
@TYPE xy
   0  0.200158   78.4538
  10  0.224148   77.0472
  20   0.25729   75.0907
  30  0.237989   76.2321
  40  0.250923   75.4679
  50  0.232999   76.5263
  60  0.267666   74.4746
  70  0.227826   76.8309
  80  0.286902   73.3274
  90  0.250226   75.5091
 100  0.254623   75.2488
...

So it tells me that Gromacs measured an angle of about 0.2??!
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? And what tells me the third column of 
the .xvg file?

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Re: [gmx-users] Measure angle with g_sgangle

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 2:47 PM, Mast, Thilo wrote:

Hey.
I'm using Gromacs to simulate a transmembrane-peptide and would like to measure 
the angle between three residues of the protein. The protein gets during the 
simulation a kink of about 87°. I would like to measure the real angle of the 
kink with g_sgangle.
So I made an index file and defined two groups with:

a 5|a 248
name 17 group1

and

a 248|a 477
name 18 group2

The atom numbers are the C alpha atom of the N terminus, the AS where the kink 
is located and the C terminus.

Now I used g_sgangle to measure the angle between this two groups with:

g_sgangle -f md_27nstrjconv.trr -n g_sgangle.ndx -s md_27ns.tpr -oa sg_angle.xvg

Then I've chosen group1 and group2 (17 18).
The sg_angle.xvg looks like that:

@title Angle between group1 and group2
@xaxis  label Time (ps)
@yaxis  label Angle (degrees)
@TYPE xy
0  0.200158   78.4538
   10  0.224148   77.0472
   20   0.25729   75.0907
   30  0.237989   76.2321
   40  0.250923   75.4679
   50  0.232999   76.5263
   60  0.267666   74.4746
   70  0.227826   76.8309
   80  0.286902   73.3274
   90  0.250226   75.5091
  100  0.254623   75.2488
...

So it tells me that Gromacs measured an angle of about 0.2??!
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? And what tells me the third column of 
the .xvg file?



The second column is the cosine of the angle.  The third column is the actual 
angle.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Two [ dihedrals ] sections in topology

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 2:53 PM, Lara Bunte wrote:

Hi


Is there some reason to believe you should not have dihedrals?  That doesn't
make much physical sense.


I want and have dihedrals in my topology. I don't want an additional empty 
dihedrals block in the topology. In my force field I gave impropers.



Please see my previous replies regarding what you're calling empty dihedrals. 
 There's nothing necessarily wrong with them (unless they raise an error), and 
if pdb2gmx created them then they almost certainly need to be present.  Each 
rotatable bond has a dihedral term associated with it, even if it's not 
something you thought of previously or defined explicitly in the .rtp entry.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] itp file for flavins

2012-05-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 5/15/12 5:37 PM, vijaya subramanian wrote:

Hi
I found all the rtp files-aminoacid.rtp,dna.rtp but not fmnr.rtp which is in
ffgmx.rtp according to the gromacs building blocks site.
I need to look at the fmnr.rtp file to match atom names.


Individual molecules generally do not have their own .rtp files.  The parameters 
you need are in aminoacids.rtp:


$ grep FMN g*.ff/*.rtp
gmx.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNO ]
gmx.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNR ]
gmx.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNS ]
gromos43a1.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNO ]
gromos43a1.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNS ]
gromos43a1.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNR ]
gromos43a2.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNO ]
gromos43a2.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNS ]
gromos43a2.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNR ]
gromos45a3.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNO ]
gromos45a3.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNS ]
gromos45a3.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNR ]
gromos53a5.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNO ]
gromos53a5.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNS ]
gromos53a5.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNR ]
gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNO ]
gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNS ]
gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.rtp:[ FMNR ]

I would recommend not using gmx.ff, for reasons described in the manual.  The 
newer versions of Gromos96 are more suitable.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Two [ dihedrals ] sections in topology

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Abraham

On 16/05/2012 4:53 AM, Lara Bunte wrote:

Hi


Is there some reason to believe you should not have dihedrals?  That doesn't
make much physical sense.

I want and have dihedrals in my topology. I don't want an additional empty 
dihedrals block in the topology. In my force field I gave impropers.


An empty block of dihedrals doesn't hurt, but you don't have one of 
these. A block of dihedrals lacking parameters gets those parameters 
looked up from ffbonded.itp. You likely can't have only improper 
dihedrals and expect any resemblance to the behaviour of the CHARMM27 
forcefield.


It sounds to me like you're trying to do something that might not be 
worth attempting, but this thread hasn't revealed your objective. 
There's no point moving deckchairs on the Titanic if there's icebergs 
all around.


Mark



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On 5/15/12 10:43 AM, Lara Bunte wrote:

Hi

You wrote:


Two blocks of dihedrals are normal output for pdb2gmx - one for proper
and one for improper dihedrals.


Is there a way to force pdb2gmx that there is only my block with improper 
dihedrals in the topology?


Normally pdb2gmx will generate proper dihedrals based on bonded connectivity.
Is there some reason to believe you should not have dihedrals?  That doesn't
make much physical sense.


Could that be a problem in further calculations, i.e. energy minimization if 
there is this empty [ dihedrals ] block in the topology?


What you've been defining as empty is not necessarily so.  The fact that
parameters are not explicitly printed is not inherently indicative of a problem,
since the parameters are looked up from ffbonded.itp and not necessarily
recapitulated in the topology.  If you get fatal errors about missing
parameters, that's a separate issue.


[ bondedtypes ]
; bonds  angles  dihedrals  impropers
  1   1  5  5

Those are angle, dihedral and improper function types that are abnormal
for CHARMM27. Using these in your .rtp means that you are no longer
using CHARMM27. It might be reasonable for you to do this, but you need
to be absolutely sure why. Importing a topology from another force field
is not an acceptable reason.

What would be the correct numbers in the [ bondedtypes ] for using CHARMM27 
force field?


Look in charmm27.ff/aminoacids.rtp.

-Justin



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[gmx-users] What is the subroutine for SHAKE or RATTLE? Thanks.

2012-05-15 Thread kevin
Hi, everyone.
  
 It is my first use of Gromacs and I am looking for a numerical scheme for one 
specific constrained SDE, the constrain is a macroscopic one, i.e., overdamped 
Langevin(Brownian dynamics) equations with an equality constraint which is 
expressed in form of expectation(or moment of n-th order). This is unlike the 
common 'micro' constraint(simply function in terms of variable in SDE) . I can 
not find such a subrountine for solving constrained SDE in MD codes in Gromacs. 
 I see there is an algorithm called SHAKE or RATTLE which and it seems they 
could implement Langevin(or Brownian) dynamics with constraints. If convenient, 
could anyone help to point out which subroutine is specific for implementing 
SHAKE/RATTLE? Thanks in advance.
   
  
  
  
 

 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] TFE Proper Dihedral types...

2012-05-15 Thread rama david
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




 The parameters are missing from ffbonded.itp, making the implementation
 incomplete.  You can obtain a TFE topology from ATB:

 http://compbio.biosci.uq.edu.**au/atb/download.py?molid=1655http://compbio.biosci.uq.edu.au/atb/download.py?molid=1655

 -Justin

 Thank you Justin ..
I obtain the topology from given link..

1. If you have some time , Could you tell me the way how to fix
   the missing parameter from ffbonded.itp ..???



With Best Wishes,
Rama David
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[gmx-users] Coupling groups in protein-ligand-lipid simulation

2012-05-15 Thread Anirban
Hi ALL,

I am simulating a membrane protein docked with a ligand and embedded in a
lipid bilayer. For COM removal I am using two groups, Prt_Lig_Lipid and
SOL_CL. For temperature and pressure couplings should I use these two
groups or should I use three groups, Protein, Lipid and Lig_SOL_CL?
Any suggestion is welcome.


Thanks and regards,

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[gmx-users] How can i specify a user defined potential between i, i+2 residues

2012-05-15 Thread mohan maruthi sena
Hi all,
  I use a user defined potential to describe non-bonded
interactions, as this excludes i, i+2,i+3. If i want to describe a user
defined potential for i,i+2,i+3,(i.e, 1-2,1-3) residues , how can i give
that in mdp file.

  T
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[gmx-users] Fwd: How can i specify a user defined potential between i, i+2 residues

2012-05-15 Thread mohan maruthi sena
Hi all,
  I use a user defined potential to describe non-bonded
interactions, as this excludes i, i+2,i+3. If i want to describe a user
defined potential for i,i+2,i+3,(i.e, 1-2,1-3) residues , how can i give
that in mdp file.

  Thanks for a reply in advance,

with regards,
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Re: [gmx-users] How can i specify a user defined potential between i, i+2 residues

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Abraham

On 16/05/2012 3:43 PM, mohan maruthi sena wrote:

Hi all,
  I use a user defined potential to describe non-bonded 
interactions, as this excludes i, i+2,i+3. If i want to describe a 
user defined potential for i,i+2,i+3,(i.e, 1-2,1-3) residues , how can 
i give that in mdp file.


Doing that with a user-defined non-bonded potential requires you change 
nrexcl for your force field. Doing that with a user-defined bonded 
potential doesn't, but you'll have to specify all the interactions manually.


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Re: [gmx-users] What is the subroutine for SHAKE or RATTLE? Thanks.

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Abraham

On 16/05/2012 12:28 PM, kevin wrote:

 Hi, everyone.
It is my first use of Gromacs http://lammps.sandia.gov/ and I am 
looking for a numerical scheme for one specific constrained SDE, the 
constrain is a macroscopic one, i.e., overdamped Langevin(Brownian 
dynamics) equations with an equality constraint which is expressed in 
form of expectation(or moment of n-th order). This is unlike the 
common 'micro' constraint(simply function in terms of variable in SDE) 
. I can not find such a subrountine for solving constrained SDE in MD 
codes in Gromacs http://lammps.sandia.gov/. I see there is an 
algorithm called SHAKE or RATTLE which and it seems they could 
implement Langevin(or Brownian) dynamics with constraints. If 
convenient, could anyone help to point out which subroutine is 
specific for implementing SHAKE/RATTLE? Thanks in advance.




Various files in src/mdlib/ deal with these kinds of algorithms.

Mark
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