Re: [gmx-users] Solvent molecules within a certain distance of solute

2013-05-22 Thread Erik Marklund
g_hbond and g_hbond -contact

Erik

On 22 May 2013, at 05:37, Vishal Kumar Jaiswal vishal3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello gromacs users
 
 I performed a 1 ns simulation of N-isopropylamide in water. Now i wish to
 calculate the average no of water molecules(averaged over entire
 trajectory) within a certain distance of solute and no. of  water molecules
 that form H-bonds with solute.
 
 Could you guide me as to what tools are appropriate for this
 
 Vishal
 Undergraduate student
 IITG
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[gmx-users] parameter files for cholesteryl ester

2013-05-22 Thread Revthi Sanker
Dear all,
I
 want to simulate a system consisting of cholesteryl ester. I have to 
use charmm27 all atom force field for which I am not able to get the 
parameters. I tried using lipid book but did not find any files. As I am
 a new beginner to performing simulations, I have no idea about other 
sources from where I could get the parameter files. Kindly provide your 
valuable suggestions.


Thanks in advance.

Revthi
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[gmx-users] MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread Anna Akinshina
Dear Gromacs Users,

I have a question interpreting obtained msd data.
I need to calculate diffusion coefficient for a single argon atom in a box of 
water (500 molecules).
During the calculations (50ns) I write both trr and xtc trajectories, but to 
save space I write trr for whole system very seldom (every 5 steps = 100 ps)
but in xtc I have argon only (no water) and write more often (every 1000 steps 
=  2 ps).

When I analysed the results using g_msd I was surprised that the msd  curves 
obtained from trr and xtc trajectories differ a lot, what affect the resulting 
diffusion coefficients.

If I save trr more often, like every 1 steps (20ps) the results from both  
files coincide.

Does the msd results depend on how often you write trajectories?
If yes, what frequency for writing the trajectories for future calculation of 
the diffusion coefficient would be reasonable and how long should be the 
calculations?

Thanks you
Anna
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The University of Manchester, UK


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[gmx-users] error in running g_dist

2013-05-22 Thread Arunima Shilpi
Respected sir

I want to calculate the distance between protein and ligand after I  have
run the production step. I used the following command..

g_dist -s md_0_1.tpr -f md_0_1.xtc -o dist.xvg -n index.ndx

Groups I selected was
Group 1 (protein)
Group 13 (ligand)

It says the following error

Molecule in topology has atom numbers below and above natoms (11793).
You are probably trying to use a trajectory which does not match the first
11793 atoms of the run input file.

how to debug the error...

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Thanking You with Regards.

Arunima Shilpi

Ph. D Research Scholar(Cancer  Epigenetics)
Department of Life Science
National Institute of Technology
Rourkela
Odisha
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[gmx-users] Free energy of solvation's .mdp of peptide

2013-05-22 Thread maggin
Hi, if I want to calculate the free energy of solvation of peptide, because
both van der Waals and Coulombic interactions are important for peptide

so I set couple-lambda0 = none  
   couple-lambda1 = vdw-q

is it right?

or it's better to choose wo-stage approach to do this work:

van der Waals coupling:

 sc-alpha  = 0.5 ; use soft-core for LJ (de)coupling
 sc-sigma  = 0.3
 sc-power  = 1
 couple-moltype= peptide
 couple-intramol   = no
 couple-lambda0= none; non-interacting dummy in state A
 couple-lambda1= vdw ; only vdW terms on in state B
Coulombic coupling:

 sc-alpha  = 0   ; soft-core during (dis)charging can be
unstable!
 sc-sigma  = 0
 couple-moltype= peptide
 couple-intramol   = no
 couple-lambda0= vdw ; only vdW terms in state A (the previous
state B is now A)
 couple-lambda1= vdw-q   ; all nonbonded interactions are on in
state B

Thank you very much!

maggin






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Re: [gmx-users] MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread Erik Marklund
Hi,

For particles that diffuse more than half a box length between frames will 
appear as if they haven't moved much, assuming you have periodic boundary 
conditions.

Erik

On 22 May 2013, at 11:41, Anna Akinshina anna.akinsh...@manchester.ac.uk 
wrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users,
 
 I have a question interpreting obtained msd data.
 I need to calculate diffusion coefficient for a single argon atom in a box of 
 water (500 molecules).
 During the calculations (50ns) I write both trr and xtc trajectories, but to 
 save space I write trr for whole system very seldom (every 5 steps = 100 
 ps)
 but in xtc I have argon only (no water) and write more often (every 1000 
 steps =  2 ps).
 
 When I analysed the results using g_msd I was surprised that the msd  curves 
 obtained from trr and xtc trajectories differ a lot, what affect the 
 resulting diffusion coefficients.
 
 If I save trr more often, like every 1 steps (20ps) the results from both 
  files coincide.
 
 Does the msd results depend on how often you write trajectories?
 If yes, what frequency for writing the trajectories for future calculation of 
 the diffusion coefficient would be reasonable and how long should be the 
 calculations?
 
 Thanks you
 Anna
 ---
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 School of Chemical Engineering  Analytical Science
 The University of Manchester, UK
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread Mark Abraham
Sure. What's the MSD of a pendulum if you only sample at a rate equal to
the period? How often you want to sample depends on the time scale of what
you want to observe. That might be up to you to measure :-)

Mark


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Anna Akinshina 
anna.akinsh...@manchester.ac.uk wrote:

 Dear Gromacs Users,

 I have a question interpreting obtained msd data.
 I need to calculate diffusion coefficient for a single argon atom in a box
 of water (500 molecules).
 During the calculations (50ns) I write both trr and xtc trajectories, but
 to save space I write trr for whole system very seldom (every 5 steps =
 100 ps)
 but in xtc I have argon only (no water) and write more often (every 1000
 steps =  2 ps).

 When I analysed the results using g_msd I was surprised that the msd
  curves obtained from trr and xtc trajectories differ a lot, what affect
 the resulting diffusion coefficients.

 If I save trr more often, like every 1 steps (20ps) the results from
 both  files coincide.

 Does the msd results depend on how often you write trajectories?
 If yes, what frequency for writing the trajectories for future calculation
 of the diffusion coefficient would be reasonable and how long should be the
 calculations?

 Thanks you
 Anna
 ---
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 School of Chemical Engineering  Analytical Science
 The University of Manchester, UK


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Re: [gmx-users] error in running g_dist

2013-05-22 Thread Mark Abraham
Use gmxcheck to find out what's in the files. Think about how you used
xtcgroups. Consider using tpbconv to make a matching subset from your .tpr.

Mark


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Arunima Shilpi writetoas...@gmail.comwrote:

 Respected sir

 I want to calculate the distance between protein and ligand after I  have
 run the production step. I used the following command..

 g_dist -s md_0_1.tpr -f md_0_1.xtc -o dist.xvg -n index.ndx

 Groups I selected was
 Group 1 (protein)
 Group 13 (ligand)

 It says the following error

 Molecule in topology has atom numbers below and above natoms (11793).
 You are probably trying to use a trajectory which does not match the first
 11793 atoms of the run input file.

 how to debug the error...

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 Thanking You with Regards.

 Arunima Shilpi

 Ph. D Research Scholar(Cancer  Epigenetics)
 Department of Life Science
 National Institute of Technology
 Rourkela
 Odisha
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[gmx-users] C6 C12 parameters for non-bonded interactions using tables

2013-05-22 Thread Andrish Reddy
Greetings, 

I am trying to use tabulated potentials for the VdW interactions between
TIP5P water molecules.
I have tested my topology file to make sure that it gives reasonable results
with the standard table6-12.xvg in the /top folder and C6=4*eps*sig^6 ,
C12=4*eps*sig^12.  I am able to match the energies with an identical run not
using look-up tables. The problem comes when I want to include the C6  C12
parameters within the table. This is needed for dealing with more complex
multi-parameter potential functions. 

I tried testing this with the standard Lennard-Jones potential. Setting
g(r)=-(4*eps*sig^6)/r^6 and h(r)=(4*eps*sig^12)/r^12. I then construct my
table according to [r,f(r),-f'(r),g(r),-g'(r),h(r),-h'(r)]

I set vdw-type = user in my mdp file and modified my topology so that:
[ defaults ]
; nbfunccomb-rule   gen-pairs   fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
1   1   yes 0.5 0.8333

[ atomtypes ]
; name  at.num  mass charge ptype  C6  C12
OW_tip5p 8  16.000.  A   1.0e+00  1.0e+00

Since C6  C12 = 1, this run should be identical to using the table6-12.xvg
and C6=4*eps*sig^6 , C12=4*eps*sig^12
The run proceeds fine with no warnings or errors, but the LJ and Potential
energies are an order of magnitude higher than when using the standard
table. I don't understand why I am not able to reproduce the results by this
method? 

Thanks,
Andrish




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[gmx-users] Re: error in running g_dist

2013-05-22 Thread Andrish Reddy
Arunima Shilpi-2 wrote
 Respected sir
 
 I want to calculate the distance between protein and ligand after I  have
 run the production step. I used the following command..
 
 g_dist -s md_0_1.tpr -f md_0_1.xtc -o dist.xvg -n index.ndx
 
 Groups I selected was
 Group 1 (protein)
 Group 13 (ligand)
 
 It says the following error
 
 Molecule in topology has atom numbers below and above natoms (11793).
 You are probably trying to use a trajectory which does not match the first
 11793 atoms of the run input file.
 
 how to debug the error...
 
 -- 
 
 Thanking You with Regards.
 
 Arunima Shilpi
 
 Ph. D Research Scholar(Cancer  Epigenetics)
 Department of Life Science
 National Institute of Technology
 Rourkela
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Did you check that this You are probably trying to use a trajectory which
does not match the first
11793 atoms of the run input file. is not the case?

Andrish



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Re: [gmx-users] C6 C12 parameters for non-bonded interactions using tables

2013-05-22 Thread Mark Abraham
Exactly a factor of ten? Angstrom vs nm issue?


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Andrish Reddy are...@csir.co.za wrote:

 Greetings,

 I am trying to use tabulated potentials for the VdW interactions between
 TIP5P water molecules.
 I have tested my topology file to make sure that it gives reasonable
 results
 with the standard table6-12.xvg in the /top folder and C6=4*eps*sig^6 ,
 C12=4*eps*sig^12.  I am able to match the energies with an identical run
 not
 using look-up tables. The problem comes when I want to include the C6  C12
 parameters within the table. This is needed for dealing with more complex
 multi-parameter potential functions.

 I tried testing this with the standard Lennard-Jones potential. Setting
 g(r)=-(4*eps*sig^6)/r^6 and h(r)=(4*eps*sig^12)/r^12. I then construct my
 table according to [r,f(r),-f'(r),g(r),-g'(r),h(r),-h'(r)]

 I set vdw-type = user in my mdp file and modified my topology so that:
 [ defaults ]
 ; nbfunccomb-rule   gen-pairs   fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
 1   1   yes 0.5 0.8333

 [ atomtypes ]
 ; name  at.num  mass charge ptype  C6  C12
 OW_tip5p 8  16.000.  A   1.0e+00  1.0e+00

 Since C6  C12 = 1, this run should be identical to using the table6-12.xvg
 and C6=4*eps*sig^6 , C12=4*eps*sig^12
 The run proceeds fine with no warnings or errors, but the LJ and Potential
 energies are an order of magnitude higher than when using the standard
 table. I don't understand why I am not able to reproduce the results by
 this
 method?

 Thanks,
 Andrish




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[gmx-users] COM coordinate fix

2013-05-22 Thread L.Liu
Dear all,

We have 80 polymers in the simulation box, for some reason, we want to make the 
COM of each polymer be fixed. Is this possible in Gromacs with any command, or 
somewhere in the source code we can change the expression of displacement along 
with time .

Thank you very much in advance.

Kind regards,
Li
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[gmx-users] Velocity autocorrelation problem

2013-05-22 Thread Yutian Yang
Dear all, 

I am trying to use g_velacc to calculate diffusion coefficient for a single 
polymer chain. As I follow the Gromacs tutorial and use the command (version 
4.5.1)

g_velacc -acflen 1001 -nonormalize -mol -n atoms.ndx -s topol.tpr

the ACF is always zero. However, if I remove -mol option, the data shows up. It 
looks like -mol is a default option for the calculation so I don't know if it 
is still necessary to add it, or is it just a bug in the program?

Thank you! 

Shirley

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 Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 04:14:31 -0700 (PDT)
 From: maggin maggin.c...@gmail.com
 Subject: [gmx-users] Free energy of solvation's .mdp of peptide
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
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 Hi, if I want to calculate the free energy of solvation of peptide, because
 both van der Waals and Coulombic interactions are important for peptide
 
 so I set couple-lambda0 = none  
   couple-lambda1 = vdw-q
 
 is it right?
 
 or it's better to choose wo-stage approach to do this work:
 
 van der Waals coupling:
 
 sc-alpha  = 0.5 ; use soft-core for LJ (de)coupling
 sc-sigma  = 0.3
 sc-power  = 1
 couple-moltype= peptide
 couple-intramol   = no
 couple-lambda0= none; non-interacting dummy in state A
 couple-lambda1= vdw ; only vdW terms on in state B
 Coulombic coupling:
 
 sc-alpha  = 0   ; soft-core during (dis)charging can be
 unstable!
 sc-sigma  = 0
 couple-moltype= peptide
 couple-intramol   = no
 couple-lambda0= vdw ; only vdW terms in state A (the previous
 state B is now A)
 couple-lambda1= vdw-q   ; all nonbonded interactions are on in
 state B
 
 Thank you very much!
 
 maggin
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 From: Erik Marklund er...@xray.bmc.uu.se
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] MSD and  frequency of writing  trajectories
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 Hi,
 
 For particles that diffuse more than half a box length between frames will 
 appear as if they haven't moved much, assuming you have periodic boundary 
 conditions.
 
 Erik
 
 On 22 May 2013, at 11:41, Anna Akinshina anna.akinsh...@manchester.ac.uk 
 wrote:
 
 Dear Gromacs Users,
 
 I have a question interpreting obtained msd data.
 I need to calculate diffusion coefficient for a single argon atom in a box 
 of water (500 molecules).
 During the calculations (50ns) I write both trr and xtc trajectories, but to 
 save space I write trr for whole system very seldom (every 5 steps = 100 
 ps)
 but in xtc I have argon only (no water) and write more often (every 1000 
 steps =  2 ps).
 
 When I analysed the results using g_msd I was surprised that the msd  curves 
 obtained from trr and xtc trajectories differ a lot, what affect the 
 resulting diffusion coefficients.
 
 If I save trr more often, like every 1 steps (20ps) the results from 
 both  files coincide.
 
 Does the msd results depend on how often you write trajectories?
 If yes, what frequency for writing the trajectories for future calculation 
 of the diffusion coefficient would be reasonable and how long should be the 
 calculations?
 
 Thanks you
 Anna
 ---
 Dr Anna Akinshina
 School of Chemical Engineering  Analytical Science
 The University of Manchester, UK
 
 
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[gmx-users] Re: MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread Yutian Yang
Erik, 

Do you mean that if the particle diffuses too fast, it will appear like it 
doesn't move because of the PBC? 

I have another issue. If I have a polymer chain with the length almost the same 
as the box length. It is possible that the COM diffusion of the chain may 
appear it does not move or move backward due to PBC, right? 

Thank you so much! 

Shirley

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  Re: MSD and  frequency of writing  trajectories


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Aw: [gmx-users] C6 C12 parameters for non-bonded interactions using tables

2013-05-22 Thread lloyd riggs


Dear Andrish Reddy,



Dont know if it works but I have for small molecules just put all the parmeters within the .top file right below the defaults, instead of user defined tables, and removed the forcefieldX/SPC.itp or equivalent section so it doesnt loop, but dont know if it works in your case. Just a quick suggestion to try, as I parse e-mails. Smone else probably has better answeres though...



Stephan


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Von:Andrish Reddy are...@csir.co.za
An:gmx-users@gromacs.org
Betreff:[gmx-users] C6  C12 parameters for non-bonded interactions using tables

Greetings,

I am trying to use tabulated potentials for the VdW interactions between
TIP5P water molecules.
I have tested my topology file to make sure that it gives reasonable results
with the standard table6-12.xvg in the /top folder and C6=4*eps*sig^6 ,
C12=4*eps*sig^12. I am able to match the energies with an identical run not
using look-up tables. The problem comes when I want to include the C6  C12
parameters within the table. This is needed for dealing with more complex
multi-parameter potential functions.

I tried testing this with the standard Lennard-Jones potential. Setting
g(r)=-(4*eps*sig^6)/r^6 and h(r)=(4*eps*sig^12)/r^12. I then construct my
table according to [r,f(r),-f(r),g(r),-g(r),h(r),-h(r)]

I set vdw-type = user in my mdp file and modified my topology so that:
[ defaults ]
; nbfunc comb-rule gen-pairs fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
1 1 yes 0.5 0.8333

[ atomtypes ]
; name at.num mass charge ptype C6 C12
OW_tip5p 8 16.00 0. A 1.0e+00 1.0e+00

Since C6  C12 = 1, this run should be identical to using the table6-12.xvg
and C6=4*eps*sig^6 , C12=4*eps*sig^12
The run proceeds fine with no warnings or errors, but the LJ and Potential
energies are an order of magnitude higher than when using the standard
table. I dont understand why I am not able to reproduce the results by this
method?

Thanks,
Andrish




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[gmx-users] Different Cutoff Options

2013-05-22 Thread PaulC
Hi,

I'm trying to understand how best to compare performance of Gromacs 4.6.1 on
CPU only versus CPU plus GPU on a cluster. Each node has is 2 x 8 Core Sandy
Bridge + 1 Nvidia M2090.

I've been trying to use the d.dppc benchmark (with modifications). I would
like to profile both standard cutoff and pme electrostatics on the CPU and
GPU (as this is building on benchmarking work done on the CPU only which
used these benchmarks). While I have successfully run modifications of the
d.dppc benchmark utilising both the CPU and GPU I have some questions about
the different options.

As a beginner with MD and Gromacs could somebody elaborate on the table
comparing Group and Verlet schemes on this page:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Cut-off_schemes

In particular the table shows which non-bonded interaction features are
supported by both the group and verlet schemes.

In the table we see four different 'cutoff' non-bonded interaction features
listed:

unbuffered cut-off scheme
buffered cut-off scheme
exact cut-off
cut-off

If plain 'cut-off' is not one of the three more specific schemes listed
above it, how does it differ from each of them?

The d.dppc input file as provided is:

title= dppc
cpp  = /lib/cpp
integrator   = md
nsteps   = 5000
nstlist  = 10
nstxout  = 0
nstvout  = 0
nstxtcout= 0
nstlog   = 0
dt   = 0.002
constraints = all-bonds
nstenergy= 0
ns_type  = grid
coulombtype  = cut-off
rlist= 1.0
rvdw = 1.0
rcoulomb = 1.8
tcoupl   = berendsen
tc_grps  = dppc sol
tau_t= 0.1 0.1
ref_t= 323 323
Pcoupl   = no


Could you say which of the four cutoff types mentioned above these settings
equate to and how these setting should be changed to equate to each of the
other three cutoff types?







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Re: Aw: [gmx-users] C6 C12 parameters for non-bonded interactions using tables

2013-05-22 Thread Andrish Reddy
lloyd riggs wrote
 nbsp;
 
 Dear Andrish Reddy, 
 
 nbsp; 
 
 Dont know if it works but I have for small molecules just put all the
 parmeters within the .top file right below the defaults, instead of user
 defined tables, and removed the quot;forcefieldX/SPC.itpquot; or
 equivalent section so it doesn#39;t loop, but dont know if it works in
 your case.nbsp; Just a quick suggestion to try, as I parse e-mails.nbsp;
 Smone else probably has better answeres though... 
 
 nbsp; 
 
 Stephan 
 
 
 Gesendet:nbsp;Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2013 um 16:09 Uhr 
 Von:nbsp;quot;Andrish Reddyquot; lt;

 areddy@.co

 gt; 
 An:nbsp;

 gmx-users@

  
 Betreff:nbsp;[gmx-users] C6 amp; C12 parameters for non-bonded
 interactions using tables 
 
 Greetings, 
 
 I am trying to use tabulated potentials for the VdW interactions between 
 TIP5P water molecules. 
 I have tested my topology file to make sure that it gives reasonable
 results 
 with the standard table6-12.xvg in the /top folder and C6=4*eps*sig^6 , 
 C12=4*eps*sig^12. I am able to match the energies with an identical run
 not 
 using look-up tables. The problem comes when I want to include the C6
 amp; C12 
 parameters within the table. This is needed for dealing with more complex 
 multi-parameter potential functions. 
 
 I tried testing this with the standard Lennard-Jones potential. Setting 
 g(r)=-(4*eps*sig^6)/r^6 and h(r)=(4*eps*sig^12)/r^12. I then construct my 
 table according to [r,f(r),-f#39;(r),g(r),-g#39;(r),h(r),-h#39;(r)] 
 
 I set vdw-type = user in my mdp file and modified my topology so that: 
 [ defaults ] 
 ; nbfunc comb-rule gen-pairs fudgeLJ fudgeQQ 
 1 1 yes 0.5 0.8333 
 
 [ atomtypes ] 
 ; name at.num mass charge ptype C6 C12 
 OW_tip5p 8 16.00 0. A 1.0e+00 1.0e+00 
 
 Since C6 amp; C12 = 1, this run should be identical to using the
 table6-12.xvg 
 and C6=4*eps*sig^6 , C12=4*eps*sig^12 
 The run proceeds fine with no warnings or errors, but the LJ and Potential 
 energies are an order of magnitude higher than when using the standard 
 table. I don#39;t understand why I am not able to reproduce the results
 by this 
 method? 
 
 Thanks, 
 Andrish 
 
 
 
 
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Thanks Stephan, 

Don't think that will work in my case.

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread Mark Abraham
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Yutian Yang yyan...@syr.edu wrote:

 Erik,

 Do you mean that if the particle diffuses too fast, it will appear like it
 doesn't move because of the PBC?


Sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroboscopic_effect

I have another issue. If I have a polymer chain with the length almost the
 same as the box length. It is possible that the COM diffusion of the chain
 may appear it does not move or move backward due to PBC, right?


Depends how you've post-processed your trajectory and/or the GROMACS tool
treats PBC. There have been bugs in the latter. Nobody's issued any
warranties, so everyone should certainly be checking a) that the tool works
they way they think it does, and b) that the tool gives the right answer on
a relevant test case. Or the world may end when some reviewer points out an
analysis artefact some dark day...

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Re: [gmx-users] Re: MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread rajat desikan
Hi Mark,
Regarding your statement, how does one check whether g_msd has removed pbc
correctly or not?
Thanks


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Yutian Yang yyan...@syr.edu wrote:

  Erik,
 
  Do you mean that if the particle diffuses too fast, it will appear like
 it
  doesn't move because of the PBC?
 

 Sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroboscopic_effect

 I have another issue. If I have a polymer chain with the length almost the
  same as the box length. It is possible that the COM diffusion of the
 chain
  may appear it does not move or move backward due to PBC, right?
 

 Depends how you've post-processed your trajectory and/or the GROMACS tool
 treats PBC. There have been bugs in the latter. Nobody's issued any
 warranties, so everyone should certainly be checking a) that the tool works
 they way they think it does, and b) that the tool gives the right answer on
 a relevant test case. Or the world may end when some reviewer points out an
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread Mark Abraham
Along the lines of take a trajectory, and look through it for a frame where
it crosses the periodic boundary of the original cell. Look for artefacts
in the analysis at that time. Or take that frame and use it as a reference
state for whatever trjconv-based PBC-massaging workflow you previously used
before your analysis.

How best to test depends exactly what you're measuring. There are too many
combinations in most GROMACS tools for one test to prove the whole tool
works correctly (or even agrees with how you think it works), so you need
to think about the context that matters to you. You can probably get
creative with editconf's translation options and come up with some fake
trajectories via trjcat that test some edge cases relevant to what you want
to do.

Mark


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:40 PM, rajat desikan rajatdesi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Mark,
 Regarding your statement, how does one check whether g_msd has removed pbc
 correctly or not?
 Thanks


 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Yutian Yang yyan...@syr.edu wrote:
 
   Erik,
  
   Do you mean that if the particle diffuses too fast, it will appear like
  it
   doesn't move because of the PBC?
  
 
  Sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroboscopic_effect
 
  I have another issue. If I have a polymer chain with the length almost
 the
   same as the box length. It is possible that the COM diffusion of the
  chain
   may appear it does not move or move backward due to PBC, right?
  
 
  Depends how you've post-processed your trajectory and/or the GROMACS tool
  treats PBC. There have been bugs in the latter. Nobody's issued any
  warranties, so everyone should certainly be checking a) that the tool
 works
  they way they think it does, and b) that the tool gives the right answer
 on
  a relevant test case. Or the world may end when some reviewer points out
 an
  analysis artefact some dark day...
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread rajat desikan
Thanks for the reply,
trjconv does not have any bugs in removing pbc, right? We can just feed the
-nojump output to g_msd.

I am going to output the coordinates and velocities with g_traj and run it
through my own code :)


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Along the lines of take a trajectory, and look through it for a frame where
 it crosses the periodic boundary of the original cell. Look for artefacts
 in the analysis at that time. Or take that frame and use it as a reference
 state for whatever trjconv-based PBC-massaging workflow you previously used
 before your analysis.

 How best to test depends exactly what you're measuring. There are too many
 combinations in most GROMACS tools for one test to prove the whole tool
 works correctly (or even agrees with how you think it works), so you need
 to think about the context that matters to you. You can probably get
 creative with editconf's translation options and come up with some fake
 trajectories via trjcat that test some edge cases relevant to what you want
 to do.

 Mark


 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:40 PM, rajat desikan rajatdesi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi Mark,
  Regarding your statement, how does one check whether g_msd has removed
 pbc
  correctly or not?
  Thanks
 
 
  On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Yutian Yang yyan...@syr.edu wrote:
  
Erik,
   
Do you mean that if the particle diffuses too fast, it will appear
 like
   it
doesn't move because of the PBC?
   
  
   Sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroboscopic_effect
  
   I have another issue. If I have a polymer chain with the length almost
  the
same as the box length. It is possible that the COM diffusion of the
   chain
may appear it does not move or move backward due to PBC, right?
   
  
   Depends how you've post-processed your trajectory and/or the GROMACS
 tool
   treats PBC. There have been bugs in the latter. Nobody's issued any
   warranties, so everyone should certainly be checking a) that the tool
  works
   they way they think it does, and b) that the tool gives the right
 answer
  on
   a relevant test case. Or the world may end when some reviewer points
 out
  an
   analysis artefact some dark day...
  
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Re: [gmx-users] Effect of pressure coupling frequency on gpu simulations

2013-05-22 Thread Mark Abraham
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Trayder trayder.tho...@monash.edu wrote:

 Hi all,
 I've been running 5fs timestep simulations successfully without gpus
 (united-atom, HEAVYH). When continuing the same simulations on a gpu
 cluster
 utilising the verlet cutoff-scheme they crash within 20 steps. Reducing the
 timestep to 2fs runs smoothly, however I noticed the message:



 Making this change manually led to crashing simulations as nstcalclr,
 nsttcouple and nstpcouple default to the value of nstlist. After defining
 them all separately I was able to determine that the simulation exploding
 was dependent entirely on nstpcouple and by lowering it to 5 (from the
 default 10) I was able to run simulations at a 5fs timestep.

 So, my questions: Is lowering nstpcouple a legitimate solution or just a
 bandaid?


P-R does not cope well with situations where the box size changes enough
(e.g. you should normally avoid it during equilibration). nstpcouple != 1
means that you simulate on an NVE manifold for a period of time (maybe with
some T changes if nsttcouple != nstpcouple), and I'd suppose the longer
that interval the bigger the chance of a build-up of pressure that P-R will
then try to relieve by changing the box size. Larger nstlist and dt will
exacerbate this, of course. I would recommend you experiment and see how
far you can push things and keep statistics that still resemble those with
small nstpcouple. Larger nstpcouple helps reduce the frequency with which
global communication occurs, and that affects your simulation rate... life
is complex!

It would be nice if we were able to compute heuristics so that mdrun could
anticipate such a problem and warn you, but off-hand that seems a tricky
problem...

The simulation runs with nstcalclr and nsttcouple set to 50 along with


nstcalclr should have no effect - it works only with the group scheme,
which does not work on GPUs.


 nstlist. Is nstlist the only setting that should be increased when
 utilising
 gpus?


Yes, AFAIK. The point is that nstlist is the interval between neighbour
searches, and (at the moment at least) that's only done on the CPU. The
Verlet kernels cheerfully compute lots of zero-strength interactions
outside the cutoff (by design), and depending on the relative performance
of your hardware it is normally more efficient to bump nstlist up (and
rlist accordingly, to provide a larger buffer for diffusion of particles)
and compute more zeroes than it is to search for neighbours more often.

Mark



 Thanks in advance,
 -Trayder

 P.S. The working mdp file:







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Re: [gmx-users] Re: MSD and frequency of writing trajectories

2013-05-22 Thread Mark Abraham
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, rajat desikan rajatdesi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for the reply,
 trjconv does not have any bugs in removing pbc, right? We can just feed the
 -nojump output to g_msd.


Maybe. There are not (yet) any automated tests for the code in these tools.
But probably trjconv -nojump works correctly else we'd have heard more
screaming...

Mark

I am going to output the coordinates and velocities with g_traj and run it
 through my own code :)


 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Along the lines of take a trajectory, and look through it for a frame
 where
  it crosses the periodic boundary of the original cell. Look for artefacts
  in the analysis at that time. Or take that frame and use it as a
 reference
  state for whatever trjconv-based PBC-massaging workflow you previously
 used
  before your analysis.
 
  How best to test depends exactly what you're measuring. There are too
 many
  combinations in most GROMACS tools for one test to prove the whole tool
  works correctly (or even agrees with how you think it works), so you need
  to think about the context that matters to you. You can probably get
  creative with editconf's translation options and come up with some fake
  trajectories via trjcat that test some edge cases relevant to what you
 want
  to do.
 
  Mark
 
 
  On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:40 PM, rajat desikan rajatdesi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi Mark,
   Regarding your statement, how does one check whether g_msd has removed
  pbc
   correctly or not?
   Thanks
  
  
   On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Mark Abraham 
 mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Yutian Yang yyan...@syr.edu
 wrote:
   
 Erik,

 Do you mean that if the particle diffuses too fast, it will appear
  like
it
 doesn't move because of the PBC?

   
Sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroboscopic_effect
   
I have another issue. If I have a polymer chain with the length
 almost
   the
 same as the box length. It is possible that the COM diffusion of
 the
chain
 may appear it does not move or move backward due to PBC, right?

   
Depends how you've post-processed your trajectory and/or the GROMACS
  tool
treats PBC. There have been bugs in the latter. Nobody's issued any
warranties, so everyone should certainly be checking a) that the tool
   works
they way they think it does, and b) that the tool gives the right
  answer
   on
a relevant test case. Or the world may end when some reviewer points
  out
   an
analysis artefact some dark day...
   
Mark
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[gmx-users] Re: REMD analysis

2013-05-22 Thread bharat gupta
Dear Sir,

I performed another round of trial with different set of temperature and I
got the avg accp. ration around 0.22. Here's the temp. dist. that I used :
250 268 288 308 331 355 380 408 438 469 503 540 579 621

I then checked the replica_index and replica_temp files for each replica
individually. The plots are exactly similar for all the replicas, as an eg.
here's the link for first three replicas .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cuydj010wh2hgkt/replica_index0.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/cuydj010wh2hgkt/replica_index0.png;cid=1368714426780-10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q01wluh8wxlcxs8/replica_index1.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/q01wluh8wxlcxs8/replica_index1.png;cid=1368714426780-10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cm9f8qo1afo6w4k/replica_index2.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/cm9f8qo1afo6w4k/replica_index2.png;cid=1368714426780-10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkbu0g0e1r37l57/replica_temp0.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/gkbu0g0e1r37l57/replica_temp0.png;cid=1368714426780-10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sffq8rwghjublu0/replica_temp1.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/sffq8rwghjublu0/replica_temp1.png;cid=1368714426780-10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ulccw8xabj66ktm/replica_temp2.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ulccw8xabj66ktm/replica_temp2.png;cid=1368714426780-10

I checked the PE overlap also, that looks fine (
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qf06of9lp1m51d/pe_overlap.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/0qf06of9lp1m51d/pe_overlap.png;cid=1368714426780-10
)
I checked for the temp. dist. which also looks fine to me .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ed66uop16blgqwa/temp_dist.pnghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ed66uop16blgqwa/temp_dist.png;cid=1368714426780-10

I don't know why all plots are similar ?? Is this related to wrong settings
in mdp file. Here's the mdp file that I am using for production run. I
changed ref_t for each replica in the mdp file.




 define  =  -DPOSRESHELIX ; -DFLEXIBLE -DPOSRES
 constraints =  all-bonds
 integrator  =  md
 dt  =  0.002  ; ps
 nsteps  =  2500; 5 ps = 50 ns
 nstcomm =  10
 nstcalcenergy   =  10
 nstxout =  1000 ; frequency to write coordinates to output
 trajectory
 nstvout =  0   ; frequency to write velocities to output
 trajectory; the last velocities are always written
 nstfout =  0   ; frequency to write forces to output
 trajectory
 nstlog  =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to log
 file
 nstenergy   =  1000 ; frequency to write energies to edr file

 vdwtype =  cut-off
 coulombtype =  cut-off

 pbc =  no

 nstlist =  0
 ns_type =  simple
 rlist   =  0   ; this means all-vs-all (no cut-off), which
 gets expensive for bigger systems
 rcoulomb=  0
 rvdw=  0

 comm-mode   =  angular
 comm-grps   =  system

 optimize_fft=  yes

 ; V-rescale temperature coupling is on
 Tcoupl  =  v-rescale
 tau_t   =  0.1
 tc_grps =  system
 ref_t   =  250
 ; Pressure coupling is off
 Pcoupl  =  no
 ; Generate velocites is on
 gen_vel =  yes
 gen_temp=  300
 gen_seed=  -1

 ;
 ; Implicit solvent
 ;
 implicit_solvent=  GBSA
 gb_algorithm=  Still ; HCT ; OBC
 nstgbradii  =  1
 rgbradii=  0   ; [nm] Cut-off for the calculation of the
Born radii. Currently must be equal to rlist
 gb_epsilon_solvent  =  78.5; Dielectric constant for the implicit
solvent
 ; gb_saltconc   =  0 ; Salt concentration for implicit
solvent   models, currently not used
 sa_algorithm=  Ace-approximation
 sa_surface_tension  = 0.005

I suspect that I am doing something wrong somewhere ...

It will be helpful if anybody can help me in this regard...

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[gmx-users] the details about g_density

2013-05-22 Thread vigaryang
I have used the program g_density to generate the mass density profile and 
the charge density profile of molecules at gas-liquid interface. My question 
is: Is the center of mass/charge used by g_density to compute the the 
mass/charge density profile? 

I'm eager for the answer, because the reviewer of my submitted article ask me 
for that question but I don't know how to reply. I have used google to search 
for the answer, but I did not found.

I really appreciate you for the attention and consideration to this email.


Best regards,

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Zhejiang University, 
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[gmx-users] NVT and NPT for small peptide

2013-05-22 Thread maggin
Hi, when simulation small peptideS, 6 or 10 amino acid, how long it is need
for NVT and NPT?



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Re: [gmx-users] Effect of pressure coupling frequency on gpu simulations

2013-05-22 Thread Trayder Thomas
Thanks Mark,
That really helped to clarify how everything is interacting around the
verlet scheme.
What statistics do you recommend examining between nstpcouple settings?
Pressure/box size variation is the obvious one but I was curious whether
you had something else in mind.
-Trayder


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 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Trayder trayder.tho...@monash.edu
 wrote:

  Hi all,
  I've been running 5fs timestep simulations successfully without gpus
  (united-atom, HEAVYH). When continuing the same simulations on a gpu
  cluster
  utilising the verlet cutoff-scheme they crash within 20 steps. Reducing
 the
  timestep to 2fs runs smoothly, however I noticed the message:
 
 
 
  Making this change manually led to crashing simulations as nstcalclr,
  nsttcouple and nstpcouple default to the value of nstlist. After defining
  them all separately I was able to determine that the simulation exploding
  was dependent entirely on nstpcouple and by lowering it to 5 (from the
  default 10) I was able to run simulations at a 5fs timestep.
 
  So, my questions: Is lowering nstpcouple a legitimate solution or just a
  bandaid?
 

 P-R does not cope well with situations where the box size changes enough
 (e.g. you should normally avoid it during equilibration). nstpcouple != 1
 means that you simulate on an NVE manifold for a period of time (maybe with
 some T changes if nsttcouple != nstpcouple), and I'd suppose the longer
 that interval the bigger the chance of a build-up of pressure that P-R will
 then try to relieve by changing the box size. Larger nstlist and dt will
 exacerbate this, of course. I would recommend you experiment and see how
 far you can push things and keep statistics that still resemble those with
 small nstpcouple. Larger nstpcouple helps reduce the frequency with which
 global communication occurs, and that affects your simulation rate... life
 is complex!

 It would be nice if we were able to compute heuristics so that mdrun could
 anticipate such a problem and warn you, but off-hand that seems a tricky
 problem...

 The simulation runs with nstcalclr and nsttcouple set to 50 along with
 

 nstcalclr should have no effect - it works only with the group scheme,
 which does not work on GPUs.


  nstlist. Is nstlist the only setting that should be increased when
  utilising
  gpus?
 

 Yes, AFAIK. The point is that nstlist is the interval between neighbour
 searches, and (at the moment at least) that's only done on the CPU. The
 Verlet kernels cheerfully compute lots of zero-strength interactions
 outside the cutoff (by design), and depending on the relative performance
 of your hardware it is normally more efficient to bump nstlist up (and
 rlist accordingly, to provide a larger buffer for diffusion of particles)
 and compute more zeroes than it is to search for neighbours more often.

 Mark


 
  Thanks in advance,
  -Trayder
 
  P.S. The working mdp file:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[gmx-users] Re: NVT and NPT for small peptide

2013-05-22 Thread shika
Hi Maggin,

It depend on your protein stability..It can be short or long..Check
the .edr file by using g_energy

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[gmx-users] renumber residue number in file topology

2013-05-22 Thread Kieu Thu Nguyen
Dear all,

I want to renumber residue number in file .top (to begin from 1). Have
anyone has a script for this purpose ?

Thankful for any help!
Thu
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