[gmx-users] Calculation of Temperature of Cluster

2013-04-08 Thread Rasoul Nasiri
Dear All,

I tried to use g_clustsize_d program for estimation of temperature of
cluster/nanodroplet but the temperature output file is empty. Could you
comment where is the problem?

Please note that I can get Temperature of system using g_energy_d but I'm
interest to know cooling effect of nano-drop after evaporation.


Best
Rasoul
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Re: [gmx-users] Calculation of Temperature of Cluster

2013-04-08 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Rasoul Nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 I tried to use g_clustsize_d program for estimation of temperature of
 cluster/nanodroplet but the temperature output file is empty. Could you
 comment where is the problem?


Not without seeing your command line. I'd be willing to guess that you
either used an .xtc file (which does not store velocities) or a .trr that
didn't save velocities (i.e. nstvout = 0).

-Justin


 Please note that I can get Temperature of system using g_energy_d but I'm
 interest to know cooling effect of nano-drop after evaporation.


 Best
 Rasoul
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Re: [gmx-users] Calculation of Temperature of Cluster

2013-04-08 Thread Rasoul Nasiri
Bellow is my command which I used:

g_clustsize_d -f traj.xtc  -s topol.tpr -n n.ndx -nc nclust.xvg -mc maxclust
.xvg -ac avclust.xvg -mcn maxclust.ndx -cut 0.516 -temp Tempe.xvg

Rasoul


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Rasoul Nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear All,
 
  I tried to use g_clustsize_d program for estimation of temperature of
  cluster/nanodroplet but the temperature output file is empty. Could you
  comment where is the problem?
 
 
 Not without seeing your command line. I'd be willing to guess that you
 either used an .xtc file (which does not store velocities) or a .trr that
 didn't save velocities (i.e. nstvout = 0).

 -Justin


  Please note that I can get Temperature of system using g_energy_d but I'm
  interest to know cooling effect of nano-drop after evaporation.
 
 
  Best
  Rasoul
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Re: [gmx-users] Calculation of Temperature of Cluster

2013-04-08 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Rasoul Nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bellow is my command which I used:

 g_clustsize_d -f traj.xtc  -s topol.tpr -n n.ndx -nc nclust.xvg -mc
 maxclust
 .xvg -ac avclust.xvg -mcn maxclust.ndx -cut 0.516 -temp Tempe.xvg


Then it is exactly what I said. Temperatures require velocities. Velocities
are not stored in .xtc files and thus you can't extract any temperature
information in this way.

-Justin

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231-9080http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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Re: [gmx-users] Calculation of Temperature of Cluster

2013-04-08 Thread Rasoul Nasiri
Justin,
Thanks for your comment.

Instead of .xtc, I just used .trr in which nstvout isn’t zero. I'm still
encountering to empty file for temperature.

Rasoul


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Rasoul Nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Bellow is my command which I used:
 
  g_clustsize_d -f traj.xtc  -s topol.tpr -n n.ndx -nc nclust.xvg -mc
  maxclust
  .xvg -ac avclust.xvg -mcn maxclust.ndx -cut 0.516 -temp Tempe.xvg
 
 
 Then it is exactly what I said. Temperatures require velocities. Velocities
 are not stored in .xtc files and thus you can't extract any temperature
 information in this way.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculation of Temperature of Cluster

2013-04-08 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Rasoul Nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Justin,
 Thanks for your comment.

 Instead of .xtc, I just used .trr in which nstvout isn’t zero. I'm still
 encountering to empty file for temperature.


Can you please provide the gmxcheck output for the .trr file? I suppose
there could be a bug, but we need to rule out a few things first. If
g_clustsize still fails, you can get the output temperature from g_traj
-ot, which appears to have a redundant function.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Calculation of Temperature of Cluster

2013-04-08 Thread Rasoul Nasiri
One suggestion,

Is there any chance to retrieve trajectory of un-evaporated molecules using
one of gromacs tools? Now I have a ndx file which show number of atoms
stayed in drop,

Which one is better? I mean if I can get trajectory (position+velocity)
unevaporated molecules, I would be able estimate the temperature as well.
Is it correct?

Rasoul


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Rasoul Nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Justin,
  Thanks for your comment.
 
  Instead of .xtc, I just used .trr in which nstvout isn’t zero. I'm still
  encountering to empty file for temperature.
 
 
 Can you please provide the gmxcheck output for the .trr file? I suppose
 there could be a bug, but we need to rule out a few things first. If
 g_clustsize still fails, you can get the output temperature from g_traj
 -ot, which appears to have a redundant function.

 -Justin

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 Department of Biochemistry
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Re: [gmx-users] Calculation of Temperature of Cluster

2013-04-08 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Rasoul Nasiri nasiri1...@gmail.com wrote:

 One suggestion,

 Is there any chance to retrieve trajectory of un-evaporated molecules using
 one of gromacs tools? Now I have a ndx file which show number of atoms
 stayed in drop,


Sure, that's what trjconv does.


 Which one is better? I mean if I can get trajectory (position+velocity)
 unevaporated molecules, I would be able estimate the temperature as well.
 Is it correct?


I suppose so. You can (in theory) use g_traj or g_clustsize to extract
temperature, and the analyzed atoms can be chosen as an index group of a
larger system or simply that subset that has already been parsed out of the
trajetory. Either approach should be equivalent.

-Justin

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