Re: [gmx-users] MD in Vacuum

2013-03-14 Thread Erik Marklund

Hi,

You also need to consider the ensemble you want to investigate. If you  
simulate under constant energy you need a shorter timestep than you  
would have in solution and probably double precision. In the articles  
I list below we used a timestep of 0.5 fs and 1 fs, respectively, and  
double precision. Monitor the total energy and you will see it  
drifting early on if you e.g. have a timestep that is too long. You  
could also try to apply the constraints more accurately than default.


* Patriksson, A., Marklund, E., and Van der Spoel, D. (2007) Protein  
Structures under Electrospray Conditions. Biochemistry, 56(4):933pp
* Marklund, E. G., Larsson, S. D., Patriksson, A., Van der Spoel, D.,  
and Caleman, C. (2009) Structural stability of electrosprayed  
proteins: temperature and hydration effects. Physical Chemistry  
Chemical Physics, 11(36):8069pp


Modesto Orozco and coworkers have also simulated biomolecules in the  
gas phase. I suggest to also have a look at their work.


Best,

On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Justin Lemkul wrote:




On 3/13/13 12:53 PM, Lara Bunte wrote:

Hello

In all my tutorials for md they investigate a molecule in solution.  
I want to do md simulations in vacuum and I did not find a good  
tutorial. So I want to ask you what should I do for a md simulation  
in vaccum?




Consult the literature.  Tutorials will not cover every topic, and  
since most MD force fields were designed for condensed-phase  
simulations, it's awfully hard to explain to a new user why we're  
making wild changes to "normal" settings and hope that they  
understand :)


I take a molecule, optimize the structure, generate a topology with  
gromacs and what after this? Do I also have to make a box? what is  
the procedure?




Usually in vacuo simulations are done in the absence of periodicity  
and with infinite cutoffs.  In general, an approach like the  
following is used:


comm-mode = Angular
nstlist = 0
rlist = 0
rvdw = 0
rcoulomb = 0
pbc = no
ns-type = simple
vdwtype = cutoff
coulombtype = cutoff

Check literature to be sure to establish a protocol with some basis  
in precedent.


-Justin

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Department of Biochemistry
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Re: [gmx-users] MD in Vacuum

2013-03-13 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 3/13/13 12:53 PM, Lara Bunte wrote:

Hello

In all my tutorials for md they investigate a molecule in solution. I want to 
do md simulations in vacuum and I did not find a good tutorial. So I want to 
ask you what should I do for a md simulation in vaccum?



Consult the literature.  Tutorials will not cover every topic, and since most MD 
force fields were designed for condensed-phase simulations, it's awfully hard to 
explain to a new user why we're making wild changes to "normal" settings and 
hope that they understand :)



I take a molecule, optimize the structure, generate a topology with gromacs and 
what after this? Do I also have to make a box? what is the procedure?



Usually in vacuo simulations are done in the absence of periodicity and with 
infinite cutoffs.  In general, an approach like the following is used:


comm-mode = Angular
nstlist = 0
rlist = 0
rvdw = 0
rcoulomb = 0
pbc = no
ns-type = simple
vdwtype = cutoff
coulombtype = cutoff

Check literature to be sure to establish a protocol with some basis in 
precedent.

-Justin

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Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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[gmx-users] MD in Vacuum

2013-03-13 Thread Lara Bunte
Hello

In all my tutorials for md they investigate a molecule in solution. I want to 
do md simulations in vacuum and I did not find a good tutorial. So I want to 
ask you what should I do for a md simulation in vaccum?

I take a molecule, optimize the structure, generate a topology with gromacs and 
what after this? Do I also have to make a box? what is the procedure?

Thanks for help
Greetings, Lara

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