Re: [gmx-users] box vectors - regd

2012-08-16 Thread ramesh cheerla
Dear Mark,

Once again I am very thankful to you for your reply, I
have  extracted box vectors from .XTC file  by using  g_traj with  -ob
 option with this I was able to get only six vector components viz  XX
YY ZZ  YX  ZX  and ZY only how about remaining three vector components
XY XZ and  YZ .
I have used triclinic box for my simulations I know that XY XZ and YZ
will be zero, moreover  I have used  pcoupltype  = anisotropic 
with compressibility values as compressibility = 4.5e-5  4.5e-5
4.5e-5  0.0  0.0  0.0  in my .mdp file.
Here my question is why I am not getting XY XZ and  YZ components in
my output file though they might be zero. Is this because of above
specified .mdp options  or something else ?
Can you please let me know what might be the probable reason ?

Thank you in advance.


On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 On 16/08/2012 3:22 PM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

 Dear Mark,

   Thank you for your reply, as you suggested I will go
 through the sec 7.4 and 8 of the manual and moreover how would I get
 exact box vectors XX YY ZZ XY XZ  YX YZ  ZX ZY  for each frame of
 trajectory in gromacs


 They're in the trajectory file with each frame.


 As I am new to gromacs I have no Idea where these will be stored (
 other than gro file ). In NAMD  .XTC file contains box vectors for
 each step of the simulation like this is there any file in gromacs
 that stores these box vectors for each step,


 Same.


   if so how can i extract
 them.


 Probably however you did so with NAMD, or with g_traj or gmxdump.

 Mark



 Please suggest me a way.

 Thank you.

 On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
 wrote:

 On 16/08/2012 5:46 AM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,

I am using gromacs for simulations of a polymer,  for that  I
 am planing to see how  lattice parameters a , b  c are varying
 during simulation. Here lattice parameter a is the length of unit
 cell  along X- direction, b is the length of the unit cell along
 Y axis and c  is along Z -axis.
 For my polymer polymer chains are not exactly oriented  along Z-
 direction they are  a little bit tilted from the Z- axis.  a and b
 are  along x and Y  directions respectively so that I can get
 lattice parameters a and b just by dividing box lengths along
 those directions with the number of  unit cells in those directions.
 As the c- direction and Z- direction are not exactly same ( c is a
 little bit tilted from Z ) in this case I shouldn't divide the box
 length along Z - direction with the number of unit cells in that
 direction to get lattice parameter c. Here my questions are:
 1) How can I calculate exact  C lattice parameter from simulation
 data ? is there any way to get appropriate c?
 2) How one can get box vectors XX YY ZZ XY XZ YX YZ ZX and  ZY  for
 total trajectory, as g_energy is giving only Box - X , Box-Y  and Box-
 Z but i need exact box vectors for valid lattice parameters
 calculations.


 Sounds like g_energy is reminding you that you had a rectilinear
 simulation
 cell when you started, and still do. There are various ways to measure
 angles that will help you address your problem, if you check out manual
 sections 7.4 and 8.

 Mark
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[gmx-users] box vectors - regd

2012-08-15 Thread ramesh cheerla
Dear Gromacs users,

 I am using gromacs for simulations of a polymer,  for that  I
am planing to see how  lattice parameters a , b  c are varying
during simulation. Here lattice parameter a is the length of unit
cell  along X- direction, b is the length of the unit cell along
Y axis and c  is along Z -axis.
For my polymer polymer chains are not exactly oriented  along Z-
direction they are  a little bit tilted from the Z- axis.  a and b
are  along x and Y  directions respectively so that I can get
lattice parameters a and b just by dividing box lengths along
those directions with the number of  unit cells in those directions.
As the c- direction and Z- direction are not exactly same ( c is a
little bit tilted from Z ) in this case I shouldn't divide the box
length along Z - direction with the number of unit cells in that
direction to get lattice parameter c. Here my questions are:
1) How can I calculate exact  C lattice parameter from simulation
data ? is there any way to get appropriate c?
2) How one can get box vectors XX YY ZZ XY XZ YX YZ ZX and  ZY  for
total trajectory, as g_energy is giving only Box - X , Box-Y  and Box-
Z but i need exact box vectors for valid lattice parameters
calculations.

Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.


Regards,
Ramesh.
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Re: [gmx-users] box vectors - regd

2012-08-15 Thread Mark Abraham

On 16/08/2012 5:46 AM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,

  I am using gromacs for simulations of a polymer,  for that  I
am planing to see how  lattice parameters a , b  c are varying
during simulation. Here lattice parameter a is the length of unit
cell  along X- direction, b is the length of the unit cell along
Y axis and c  is along Z -axis.
For my polymer polymer chains are not exactly oriented  along Z-
direction they are  a little bit tilted from the Z- axis.  a and b
are  along x and Y  directions respectively so that I can get
lattice parameters a and b just by dividing box lengths along
those directions with the number of  unit cells in those directions.
As the c- direction and Z- direction are not exactly same ( c is a
little bit tilted from Z ) in this case I shouldn't divide the box
length along Z - direction with the number of unit cells in that
direction to get lattice parameter c. Here my questions are:
1) How can I calculate exact  C lattice parameter from simulation
data ? is there any way to get appropriate c?
2) How one can get box vectors XX YY ZZ XY XZ YX YZ ZX and  ZY  for
total trajectory, as g_energy is giving only Box - X , Box-Y  and Box-
Z but i need exact box vectors for valid lattice parameters
calculations.


Sounds like g_energy is reminding you that you had a rectilinear 
simulation cell when you started, and still do. There are various ways 
to measure angles that will help you address your problem, if you check 
out manual sections 7.4 and 8.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] box vectors - regd

2012-08-15 Thread ramesh cheerla
Dear Mark,

 Thank you for your reply, as you suggested I will go
through the sec 7.4 and 8 of the manual and moreover how would I get
exact box vectors XX YY ZZ XY XZ  YX YZ  ZX ZY  for each frame of
trajectory in gromacs
As I am new to gromacs I have no Idea where these will be stored (
other than gro file ). In NAMD  .XTC file contains box vectors for
each step of the simulation like this is there any file in gromacs
that stores these box vectors for each step, if so how can i extract
them.

Please suggest me a way.

Thank you.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 On 16/08/2012 5:46 AM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,

   I am using gromacs for simulations of a polymer,  for that  I
 am planing to see how  lattice parameters a , b  c are varying
 during simulation. Here lattice parameter a is the length of unit
 cell  along X- direction, b is the length of the unit cell along
 Y axis and c  is along Z -axis.
 For my polymer polymer chains are not exactly oriented  along Z-
 direction they are  a little bit tilted from the Z- axis.  a and b
 are  along x and Y  directions respectively so that I can get
 lattice parameters a and b just by dividing box lengths along
 those directions with the number of  unit cells in those directions.
 As the c- direction and Z- direction are not exactly same ( c is a
 little bit tilted from Z ) in this case I shouldn't divide the box
 length along Z - direction with the number of unit cells in that
 direction to get lattice parameter c. Here my questions are:
 1) How can I calculate exact  C lattice parameter from simulation
 data ? is there any way to get appropriate c?
 2) How one can get box vectors XX YY ZZ XY XZ YX YZ ZX and  ZY  for
 total trajectory, as g_energy is giving only Box - X , Box-Y  and Box-
 Z but i need exact box vectors for valid lattice parameters
 calculations.


 Sounds like g_energy is reminding you that you had a rectilinear simulation
 cell when you started, and still do. There are various ways to measure
 angles that will help you address your problem, if you check out manual
 sections 7.4 and 8.

 Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] box vectors - regd

2012-08-15 Thread Mark Abraham

On 16/08/2012 3:22 PM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

Dear Mark,

  Thank you for your reply, as you suggested I will go
through the sec 7.4 and 8 of the manual and moreover how would I get
exact box vectors XX YY ZZ XY XZ  YX YZ  ZX ZY  for each frame of
trajectory in gromacs


They're in the trajectory file with each frame.


As I am new to gromacs I have no Idea where these will be stored (
other than gro file ). In NAMD  .XTC file contains box vectors for
each step of the simulation like this is there any file in gromacs
that stores these box vectors for each step,


Same.


  if so how can i extract
them.


Probably however you did so with NAMD, or with g_traj or gmxdump.

Mark



Please suggest me a way.

Thank you.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:

On 16/08/2012 5:46 AM, ramesh cheerla wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,

   I am using gromacs for simulations of a polymer,  for that  I
am planing to see how  lattice parameters a , b  c are varying
during simulation. Here lattice parameter a is the length of unit
cell  along X- direction, b is the length of the unit cell along
Y axis and c  is along Z -axis.
For my polymer polymer chains are not exactly oriented  along Z-
direction they are  a little bit tilted from the Z- axis.  a and b
are  along x and Y  directions respectively so that I can get
lattice parameters a and b just by dividing box lengths along
those directions with the number of  unit cells in those directions.
As the c- direction and Z- direction are not exactly same ( c is a
little bit tilted from Z ) in this case I shouldn't divide the box
length along Z - direction with the number of unit cells in that
direction to get lattice parameter c. Here my questions are:
1) How can I calculate exact  C lattice parameter from simulation
data ? is there any way to get appropriate c?
2) How one can get box vectors XX YY ZZ XY XZ YX YZ ZX and  ZY  for
total trajectory, as g_energy is giving only Box - X , Box-Y  and Box-
Z but i need exact box vectors for valid lattice parameters
calculations.


Sounds like g_energy is reminding you that you had a rectilinear simulation
cell when you started, and still do. There are various ways to measure
angles that will help you address your problem, if you check out manual
sections 7.4 and 8.

Mark
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