Re: [gmx-users] restarting the crashed run

2013-09-22 Thread Nidhi Katyal
Thank you Justin for your reply.
Pt 3 should be the correct way to proceed. But somehow if I have lost my
state.cpt file, can I continue my run using following commands:

tpbconv -s previous.tpr -extend timetoextendby -o next.tpr
mdrun -v -s next.tpr -o next.trr -c next.gro -g next.log -e next.ene
-noappend
trjcat -f previous.trr next.trr -o combine.trr




On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/21/13 3:46 PM, Nidhi Katyal wrote:

 Dear all
 I would like to know the difference between restarting our crashed runs by
 1) first generating next.tpr using tpbconv -extend option
  then running grompp with this *.tpr file


 Why would you run grompp?  If you're using it as a source of coordinates,
 you're going to be dealing with the initial state, not the last state of
 the previous simulation, so that's garbage.  If you're restarting a crash,
 then presumably there is no need at all to invoke tpbconv or grompp.


   and finally running mdrun but with no cpi option


 Makes no sense.  You're basically obliterating the previous simulation.


  2) same as 1 but with -cpi option


 Still no need for grompp, but if providing -cpi to mdrun, you're resuming
 from the correct state.


  3) using only mdrun command with cpi option and with previous *.tpr
  (ie not creating new tpr by tpbconv option)


 This is the correct way to proceed.  The run will pick up from the state
 stored in the .cpt file and proceed with the number of steps originally
 specified in the .tpr file.


  4) using procedure 3 but with no state.cpt file


 The run should start over.


  Secondly, if state.cpt contains all the information to continue the
 simulation then why the simulation should continue at all without
 providing
 these files as in procedure 1 and 4


 Without a .cpt file, the run starts over from the beginning.

 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] restarting the crashed run

2013-09-22 Thread Mark Abraham
No, because then the state.cpt file would be redundant :-) All you can
do re-start from the beginning, because the .tpr file only has the
initial state. You can extend the number of steps, but you can't
magically produce the state after the first simulation just from the
initial one. (If you can, you'll be hugely popular here, though!)

Mark

On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Nidhi Katyal
nidhikatyal1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you Justin for your reply.
 Pt 3 should be the correct way to proceed. But somehow if I have lost my
 state.cpt file, can I continue my run using following commands:

 tpbconv -s previous.tpr -extend timetoextendby -o next.tpr
 mdrun -v -s next.tpr -o next.trr -c next.gro -g next.log -e next.ene
 -noappend
 trjcat -f previous.trr next.trr -o combine.trr




 On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 9/21/13 3:46 PM, Nidhi Katyal wrote:

 Dear all
 I would like to know the difference between restarting our crashed runs by
 1) first generating next.tpr using tpbconv -extend option
  then running grompp with this *.tpr file


 Why would you run grompp?  If you're using it as a source of coordinates,
 you're going to be dealing with the initial state, not the last state of
 the previous simulation, so that's garbage.  If you're restarting a crash,
 then presumably there is no need at all to invoke tpbconv or grompp.


   and finally running mdrun but with no cpi option


 Makes no sense.  You're basically obliterating the previous simulation.


  2) same as 1 but with -cpi option


 Still no need for grompp, but if providing -cpi to mdrun, you're resuming
 from the correct state.


  3) using only mdrun command with cpi option and with previous *.tpr
  (ie not creating new tpr by tpbconv option)


 This is the correct way to proceed.  The run will pick up from the state
 stored in the .cpt file and proceed with the number of steps originally
 specified in the .tpr file.


  4) using procedure 3 but with no state.cpt file


 The run should start over.


  Secondly, if state.cpt contains all the information to continue the
 simulation then why the simulation should continue at all without
 providing
 these files as in procedure 1 and 4


 Without a .cpt file, the run starts over from the beginning.

 -Justin

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 School of Pharmacy
 Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
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[gmx-users] restarting the crashed run

2013-09-21 Thread Nidhi Katyal
Dear all
I would like to know the difference between restarting our crashed runs by
1) first generating next.tpr using tpbconv -extend option
then running grompp with this *.tpr file
and finally running mdrun but with no cpi option
2) same as 1 but with -cpi option
3) using only mdrun command with cpi option and with previous *.tpr
(ie not creating new tpr by tpbconv option)
4) using procedure 3 but with no state.cpt file

Secondly, if state.cpt contains all the information to continue the
simulation then why the simulation should continue at all without providing
these files as in procedure 1 and 4
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Re: [gmx-users] restarting the crashed run

2013-09-21 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 9/21/13 3:46 PM, Nidhi Katyal wrote:

Dear all
I would like to know the difference between restarting our crashed runs by
1) first generating next.tpr using tpbconv -extend option
 then running grompp with this *.tpr file


Why would you run grompp?  If you're using it as a source of coordinates, you're 
going to be dealing with the initial state, not the last state of the previous 
simulation, so that's garbage.  If you're restarting a crash, then presumably 
there is no need at all to invoke tpbconv or grompp.



 and finally running mdrun but with no cpi option


Makes no sense.  You're basically obliterating the previous simulation.


2) same as 1 but with -cpi option


Still no need for grompp, but if providing -cpi to mdrun, you're resuming from 
the correct state.



3) using only mdrun command with cpi option and with previous *.tpr
 (ie not creating new tpr by tpbconv option)


This is the correct way to proceed.  The run will pick up from the state stored 
in the .cpt file and proceed with the number of steps originally specified in 
the .tpr file.



4) using procedure 3 but with no state.cpt file



The run should start over.


Secondly, if state.cpt contains all the information to continue the
simulation then why the simulation should continue at all without providing
these files as in procedure 1 and 4



Without a .cpt file, the run starts over from the beginning.

-Justin

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Health Sciences Facility II, Room 601
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Baltimore, MD 21201

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