Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

2013-04-08 Thread Anirban
I thought the sole purpose of open source discussions and sharing is to
help any scientific (or other) community to grow and benefit from each
other, without taking into account the Nationality of the beneficiaries. If
someone is willingly helping out somebody, whether Indian or not, in the
GROMACS forum, then it should not bother Mr. Luis Felipe Pineda de Castro,
since to the best of my knowledge it is not affecting him. I would request
the moderators of this forum to take adequate measures about such postings
as Mr. Castro's.

Regards,

Anirban

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Luis Felipe Pineda de Castro 
luis.pinedadecas...@lnu.se wrote:

 After having followed for longer time the queries sent by some Indian
 fellows, I wonder if it wouldn't more effective to arrange for a GROMACS
 tutorial offered by Justin in an Indian location. Maybe you, the Indian
 fellows, can arrange for the financing and invite Justin to hold such a
 Tutorial on the  basics of MD simulations and their implementation in
 GROMACS. Considering the time Justin is spending responding to your
 queries, maybe because you are devoid of adequate supervision or
 theoretical background, this would be only fair. This posting is maybe a
 little bit off topic, but somehow related.

 
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on
 behalf of Shima Arasteh [shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 5:22 PM
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

 You mean start over the NPT step?



 Sincerely,
 Shima


 - Original Message -
 From: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 7:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

 On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Shima Arasteh
 shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.comwrote:

  As I visualized the system, I see a water molecule somewhere between
 lipid
  chains near the protein entrance. This has been happen during NPT. I' d
  like to delete this molecule but with such a kind of fatal error this
 would
  impossible. So what's the way?  Is there any tricky way to change
  coordinate of molecule? but I seems also impossible becasue PME problem!
  So whats the solution?
 
 
 Delete the molecule, adjust your topology (and index file, if necessary),
 and start over with the equilibration.

 -Justin

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 Research Scientist
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Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

2013-04-05 Thread Shima Arasteh
I' d like to know if it is acceptable to change the molecule coordinates to 
solve this problem? 

Some time back, I deleted such a molecule and then I got a fatal error 
containing that the trj file and other inputs are not inconsistent.

Would you please give me suggestions? I need them urgently. I really appreciate 
your help.

 
Sincerely,
Shima

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From: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 6:25 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled
 


Hi all,

I am trying to simulate a system of protein and lipid bilayer ( in this case 
POPC). The ff I am using is CHARMM36 and I used related settings from 
literature.

I used InflateGRO to pack the lipids around my protein. Then put a position 
restraint on my protein and P atoms of POPC. With these position restraints I 
ran NVT for 1ns and NPT for around10 ns. 
( I need to say that NPT has been done in three steps:  1.First 5ns with 
position restraint on whole protein and P atoms 
2. Then 3 ns with position restraint on just protein atoms 
3. And finally 1 ns with position restraint on protein without H atoms. )
In fact, I tried to prevent any crash by sudden changes.


Next, I tried to run MDRUN, but I get the error of some water molecules can 
not be settled. This means that my system has not been equiliberated 
sufficiently. OK, what should I do? How can I solve it? Water molecules can not 
be deleted in this step because I will get another fatal error as a result.

My system seems fine. The pressure and energy plots don't show anything 
unusual. But I dont know how can I solve the problem. Would you please give me 
any suggestions?
Reducing the timestep and also changing the thermostat could not help my system 
to overcome this problem. What would be the best solution?

 
Sincerely,
Shima
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Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

2013-04-05 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Shima Arasteh
shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.comwrote:

 I' d like to know if it is acceptable to change the molecule coordinates
 to solve this problem?


It's unlikely that some ad hoc change will magically fix a problem.  Energy
minimization should take care of clashes.


 Some time back, I deleted such a molecule and then I got a fatal error
 containing that the trj file and other inputs are not inconsistent.


Right, because you've now changed the contents of the system.  It no longer
matches the topology and the trajectory would then be discontinuous.

-Justin

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Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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231-9080http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

2013-04-05 Thread Shima Arasteh
As I visualized the system, I see a water molecule somewhere between lipid 
chains near the protein entrance. This has been happen during NPT. I' d like to 
delete this molecule but with such a kind of fatal error this would impossible. 
So what's the way?  Is there any tricky way to change coordinate of molecule? 
but I seems also impossible becasue PME problem!
So whats the solution? 


 
Sincerely,
Shima



 From: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
To: Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com; Discussion list for GROMACS 
users gmx-users@gromacs.org 
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled
 






On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Shima Arasteh shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

I' d like to know if it is acceptable to change the molecule coordinates to 
solve this problem?



It's unlikely that some ad hoc change will magically fix a problem.  Energy 
minimization should take care of clashes.
 
Some time back, I deleted such a molecule and then I got a fatal error 
containing that the trj file and other inputs are not inconsistent.



Right, because you've now changed the contents of the system.  It no longer 
matches the topology and the trajectory would then be discontinuous.

-Justin
-- 

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Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin 

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Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

2013-04-05 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Shima Arasteh
shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.comwrote:

 As I visualized the system, I see a water molecule somewhere between lipid
 chains near the protein entrance. This has been happen during NPT. I' d
 like to delete this molecule but with such a kind of fatal error this would
 impossible. So what's the way?  Is there any tricky way to change
 coordinate of molecule? but I seems also impossible becasue PME problem!
 So whats the solution?


Delete the molecule, adjust your topology (and index file, if necessary),
and start over with the equilibration.

-Justin

-- 



Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540)
231-9080http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

2013-04-05 Thread Shima Arasteh
You mean start over the NPT step?


 
Sincerely,
Shima


- Original Message -
From: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Shima Arasteh
shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.comwrote:

 As I visualized the system, I see a water molecule somewhere between lipid
 chains near the protein entrance. This has been happen during NPT. I' d
 like to delete this molecule but with such a kind of fatal error this would
 impossible. So what's the way?  Is there any tricky way to change
 coordinate of molecule? but I seems also impossible becasue PME problem!
 So whats the solution?


Delete the molecule, adjust your topology (and index file, if necessary),
and start over with the equilibration.

-Justin

-- 



Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540)
231-9080http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

2013-04-05 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Shima Arasteh
shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.comwrote:

 You mean start over the NPT step?


Yes.

-Justin

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RE: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

2013-04-05 Thread Luis Felipe Pineda de Castro
After having followed for longer time the queries sent by some Indian fellows, 
I wonder if it wouldn't more effective to arrange for a GROMACS tutorial 
offered by Justin in an Indian location. Maybe you, the Indian fellows, can 
arrange for the financing and invite Justin to hold such a Tutorial on the  
basics of MD simulations and their implementation in GROMACS. Considering the 
time Justin is spending responding to your queries, maybe because you are 
devoid of adequate supervision or theoretical background, this would be only 
fair. This posting is maybe a little bit off topic, but somehow related.


From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] on behalf 
of Shima Arasteh [shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 5:22 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

You mean start over the NPT step?



Sincerely,
Shima


- Original Message -
From: Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc:
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [gmx-users] water molecule can not be settled

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Shima Arasteh
shima_arasteh2...@yahoo.comwrote:

 As I visualized the system, I see a water molecule somewhere between lipid
 chains near the protein entrance. This has been happen during NPT. I' d
 like to delete this molecule but with such a kind of fatal error this would
 impossible. So what's the way?  Is there any tricky way to change
 coordinate of molecule? but I seems also impossible becasue PME problem!
 So whats the solution?


Delete the molecule, adjust your topology (and index file, if necessary),
and start over with the equilibration.

-Justin

--



Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540)
231-9080http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
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