Re: [gmx-users] equilibrium for box of simulation

2012-10-05 Thread Mark Abraham

On 5/10/2012 3:55 PM, mohammad agha wrote:

Dear Justin,

Thank you very much.
So, decreasing of box dimensions is not bad, if all thing process natural, yes?
The cause of my doubt was because of in the most of articles was said for example  
we select box with dimensions 10nm that after equilibrium was converted to 11nm and 
I didn't see the report of decreasing of box dimensions! May I know your idea about it, 
Please?


Following a published method closely and observing an opposite result is 
a cause for concern. You have to judge closely, however. You should 
have said earlier this was one of your reasons for doubt, rather than 
leave us to guess. The quality of the help you might receive is often in 
direct proportion to the quantity of relevant information you give in 
asking for it.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] equilibrium for box of simulation

2012-10-05 Thread Mark Abraham

On 5/10/2012 4:12 PM, mohammad agha wrote:

Dear Mark,


Yes, you're right. Excuse me, for this and thank you for your reminder.
May I know your idea about cause of my doubt, Please?


As I said yesterday:

At least one of your volume, contents or model physics are not 
consistent with the others, but only you can say which. 


Since only you know anything about your volume, contents and model 
physics, or that of the work you think you should be replicating, we 
can't help at the moment. See previous comment about relevant 
information :-)


Mark



Best Regards
Sara



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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] equilibrium for box of simulation

On 5/10/2012 3:55 PM, mohammad agha wrote:

Dear Justin,

Thank you very much.
So, decreasing of box dimensions is not bad, if all thing process natural, yes?
The cause of my doubt was because of in the most of articles was said for example  
we select box with dimensions 10nm that after equilibrium was converted to 11nm and 
I didn't see the report of decreasing of box dimensions! May I know your idea about it, 
Please?

Following a published method closely and observing an opposite result is a cause for 
concern. You have to judge closely, however. You should have said earlier 
this was one of your reasons for doubt, rather than leave us to guess. The quality of the 
help you might receive is often in direct proportion to the quantity of relevant 
information you give in asking for it.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] equilibrium for box of simulation

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Abraham

On 5/10/2012 12:06 AM, mohammad agha wrote:

Dear GROMACS Users,

I asked this question before but I don't understand it!


I placed several materials in my box of simulation for example box with 
6nm*6nm*6nm and my materials are not placed in the smaller box but when I 
equilibrate my system, the box became smaller and temperature and pressure also 
equilibrate. my question is: is my system and equilibrate mistake, because of 
reach to smaller box? Is there equilibriums with reach to smaller box?


At least one of your volume, contents or model physics are not 
consistent with the others, but only you can say which.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] equilibrium for box of simulation

2012-10-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/4/12 10:06 AM, mohammad agha wrote:

Dear GROMACS Users,

I asked this question before but I don't understand it!


I placed several materials in my box of simulation for example box with 
6nm*6nm*6nm and my materials are not placed in the smaller box but when I 
equilibrate my system, the box became smaller and temperature and pressure also 
equilibrate. my question is: is my system and equilibrate mistake, because of 
reach to smaller box? Is there equilibriums with reach to smaller box?




What do you mean by my materials are not placed in the smaller box?

If a box compresses, it is because the initial configuration was incompatible 
with the desired equilibration conditions and it contracted produce the desired 
quantity (likely pressure).


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] equilibrium for box of simulation

2012-10-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/4/12 10:38 AM, mohammad agha wrote:

Dear Justin,

my materials are not placed in the smaller box means if I select box with 
dimensions 5.99 nm, space is low and insufficient for my molecules! but after equilibrate 
the box become small.


Please define what you mean here.  You start with a 6-nm cubic box.  How small 
does it get?  Are the box vectors trending downward, or do they converge?  What 
is the change in density, and is it acceptable?



According what you said, when the box become smaller in equilibrium, there is 
not mistake and it is natural?



That depends on the magnitude of the change.  Compression indicates that the 
pressure (and thus density of the system) was not at the desired value and the 
system is contracting.  The manner in which the contraction occurs (magnitude, 
speed) is the deciding factor as to whether or not there is a problem.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] equilibrium for box of simulation

2012-10-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 10/4/12 12:25 PM, mohammad agha wrote:

Dear Justin,

Thank you very much from your help.

Oh, yes, the vectors of box are downward in the first with much slope and then 
the slope became milder and milder and then it become almost fix.

For checking of density, should I use from formula: d=m/v?



You already have the density value; you posted it before.

-Justin

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