Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-13 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear users,

Its the continuation of the question I asked yesterday, Inorder to reduce
the memory usage during g_saltbr calculations i got the trajectory of only
protein, and tpr file without water and was able to successfully run it. But
unfortunately this again got stopped at 36ns as it had stopped when i was
using the whole trajectory. I tried with -dt 2, still the same problem exists.
Kindly suggest a way out of this situation.

Thank you
With Regards
Kavya


On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Sir,

 Thank you It worked :). a very usefull suggestion.
 But it did not promt to choose any option. I used
 index file.

 Thank you
 Kavya

 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 7/12/12 8:31 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Ok may be i need to specify an index file. I will try that.
 And regarding the WARNING: this .tpx file is not fully functional.
 I hope it will work fine enough to finish g_saltbr calculation?


 In principle, you should be prompted to choose a default group, but you can
 also use a custom index group as needed.

 The warning message is intended to note that the .tpr file you produce will
 not likely work for running an actual simulation.  It should be fine for
 analysis.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/13/12 11:50 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear users,

Its the continuation of the question I asked yesterday, Inorder to reduce
the memory usage during g_saltbr calculations i got the trajectory of only
protein, and tpr file without water and was able to successfully run it. But
unfortunately this again got stopped at 36ns as it had stopped when i was
using the whole trajectory. I tried with -dt 2, still the same problem exists.
Kindly suggest a way out of this situation.



How long is the trajectory?  How many frames?  What is the size of the file on 
disk?  It sounds to me like you're simply exhausting available memory, so the 
only advice is in the link I posted before - use fewer frames or use a machine 
that has more memory to do the analysis.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-13 Thread Kavyashree M
Its 50ns 25000 frames. the xtc file is 695MB. it has 16GB RAM. So will
that be insufficient? I have previously run other analysis which used to take
huge memory, for eg. covariance analysis, in a system with much lesser memory
even though CPU usage was low the job used to finish. But in this case its not
so.

Thank you
kavya

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 7/13/12 11:50 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Dear users,

 Its the continuation of the question I asked yesterday, Inorder to reduce
 the memory usage during g_saltbr calculations i got the trajectory of only
 protein, and tpr file without water and was able to successfully run it.
 But
 unfortunately this again got stopped at 36ns as it had stopped when i was
 using the whole trajectory. I tried with -dt 2, still the same problem
 exists.
 Kindly suggest a way out of this situation.


 How long is the trajectory?  How many frames?  What is the size of the file
 on disk?  It sounds to me like you're simply exhausting available memory, so
 the only advice is in the link I posted before - use fewer frames or use a
 machine that has more memory to do the analysis.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-13 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/13/12 12:05 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Its 50ns 25000 frames. the xtc file is 695MB. it has 16GB RAM. So will
that be insufficient? I have previously run other analysis which used to take
huge memory, for eg. covariance analysis, in a system with much lesser memory
even though CPU usage was low the job used to finish. But in this case its not
so.



I can't see a reason why the file itself would present a problem.  I have run 
g_saltbr on similarly sized systems.  Sorry, I can't offer an explanation as to 
why it's stopping prematurely.


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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-13 Thread Kavyashree M
Ok... I will try other options.

Thanks
Kavya

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 7/13/12 12:05 PM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Its 50ns 25000 frames. the xtc file is 695MB. it has 16GB RAM. So will
 that be insufficient? I have previously run other analysis which used to
 take
 huge memory, for eg. covariance analysis, in a system with much lesser
 memory
 even though CPU usage was low the job used to finish. But in this case its
 not
 so.


 I can't see a reason why the file itself would present a problem.  I have
 run g_saltbr on similarly sized systems.  Sorry, I can't offer an
 explanation as to why it's stopping prematurely.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/12/12 4:51 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear Gromacs users,

I was running the saltbridge calculations for a dimeric
protein simulation using g_saltbr, But its taking very
long time, almost four days still its not completed.
Could anyone has suggestion regarding this issue? I am
using the same system -
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
where i ran MD. Please give some suggestion as to how to
increase the speed of calculation.
Command i issued was:
g_saltbr -f ../traj.xtc -s md.tpr -t 0.4 -sep



g_saltbr calculates properties of all possible ionic pairs in the system, so if 
there are many, the calculation might take a long time.  Four days sounds 
ridiculous, and perhaps the program has frozen by exhausting the available memory.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-12 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear Sir,

That is true as the number of the frames increased the
memory had almost reached 95% but still it has been in
95% since long and CPU usage drops down to 1.5 -2 %
but in many cases i have seen that still it will run (off course
slowly) and finish. But this was too long. So any suggestions?

Thank you
Kavya

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 7/12/12 4:51 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,

 I was running the saltbridge calculations for a dimeric
 protein simulation using g_saltbr, But its taking very
 long time, almost four days still its not completed.
 Could anyone has suggestion regarding this issue? I am
 using the same system -
 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
 where i ran MD. Please give some suggestion as to how to
 increase the speed of calculation.
 Command i issued was:
 g_saltbr -f ../traj.xtc -s md.tpr -t 0.4 -sep


 g_saltbr calculates properties of all possible ionic pairs in the system, so
 if there are many, the calculation might take a long time.  Four days sounds
 ridiculous, and perhaps the program has frozen by exhausting the available
 memory.

 -Justin

 --
 

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/12/12 6:38 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear Sir,

That is true as the number of the frames increased the
memory had almost reached 95% but still it has been in
95% since long and CPU usage drops down to 1.5 -2 %
but in many cases i have seen that still it will run (off course
slowly) and finish. But this was too long. So any suggestions?



http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Reducing_Trajectory_Storage_Volume

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-12 Thread Kavyashree M
Thanks :). will check whether it makes it faster.

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 7/12/12 6:38 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Dear Sir,

 That is true as the number of the frames increased the
 memory had almost reached 95% but still it has been in
 95% since long and CPU usage drops down to 1.5 -2 %
 but in many cases i have seen that still it will run (off course
 slowly) and finish. But this was too long. So any suggestions?


 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Reducing_Trajectory_Storage_Volume


 -Justin

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 Research Scientist
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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-12 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear Sir,

I had a problem again during g_saltbr calculation it needs
.xtc and .tpr file, I can reduce the .xtc file to have only
protein but .tpr file will have water also in it. inorder to generate
new tpr file without water using grompp, i need topology file
without water .. so do you suggest me to go this way.. it
appears quite complicated!

Thank you
Kavya

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks :). will check whether it makes it faster.

 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 7/12/12 6:38 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Dear Sir,

 That is true as the number of the frames increased the
 memory had almost reached 95% but still it has been in
 95% since long and CPU usage drops down to 1.5 -2 %
 but in many cases i have seen that still it will run (off course
 slowly) and finish. But this was too long. So any suggestions?


 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Reducing_Trajectory_Storage_Volume


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/12/12 8:15 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Dear Sir,

I had a problem again during g_saltbr calculation it needs
.xtc and .tpr file, I can reduce the .xtc file to have only
protein but .tpr file will have water also in it. inorder to generate
new tpr file without water using grompp, i need topology file
without water .. so do you suggest me to go this way.. it
appears quite complicated!



In fact, it's quite easy with tpbconv.  From tpbconv -h:

3. by creating a .tpx file for a subset of your original tpx file, which is
useful when you want to remove the solvent from your .tpx file, or when you
want to make e.g. a pure Calpha .tpx file. Note that you may need to use
-nsteps -1 (or similar) to get this to work. WARNING: this .tpx file is not
fully functional.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-12 Thread Kavyashree M
I read that. but while executing tpbconv i did
not see where i can specify that i do not want
solvent?

Thanks
Kavya


On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 7/12/12 8:15 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Dear Sir,

 I had a problem again during g_saltbr calculation it needs
 .xtc and .tpr file, I can reduce the .xtc file to have only
 protein but .tpr file will have water also in it. inorder to generate
 new tpr file without water using grompp, i need topology file
 without water .. so do you suggest me to go this way.. it
 appears quite complicated!


 In fact, it's quite easy with tpbconv.  From tpbconv -h:

 3. by creating a .tpx file for a subset of your original tpx file, which is
 useful when you want to remove the solvent from your .tpx file, or when you
 want to make e.g. a pure Calpha .tpx file. Note that you may need to use
 -nsteps -1 (or similar) to get this to work. WARNING: this .tpx file is not
 fully functional.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-12 Thread Kavyashree M
Ok may be i need to specify an index file. I will try that.
And regarding the WARNING: this .tpx file is not fully functional.
I hope it will work fine enough to finish g_saltbr calculation?


Thanks
Kavya

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Kavyashree M hmkv...@gmail.com wrote:
 I read that. but while executing tpbconv i did
 not see where i can specify that i do not want
 solvent?

 Thanks
 Kavya


 On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 7/12/12 8:15 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Dear Sir,

 I had a problem again during g_saltbr calculation it needs
 .xtc and .tpr file, I can reduce the .xtc file to have only
 protein but .tpr file will have water also in it. inorder to generate
 new tpr file without water using grompp, i need topology file
 without water .. so do you suggest me to go this way.. it
 appears quite complicated!


 In fact, it's quite easy with tpbconv.  From tpbconv -h:

 3. by creating a .tpx file for a subset of your original tpx file, which is
 useful when you want to remove the solvent from your .tpx file, or when you
 want to make e.g. a pure Calpha .tpx file. Note that you may need to use
 -nsteps -1 (or similar) to get this to work. WARNING: this .tpx file is not
 fully functional.


 -Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



On 7/12/12 8:31 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

Ok may be i need to specify an index file. I will try that.
And regarding the WARNING: this .tpx file is not fully functional.
I hope it will work fine enough to finish g_saltbr calculation?



In principle, you should be prompted to choose a default group, but you can also 
use a custom index group as needed.


The warning message is intended to note that the .tpr file you produce will not 
likely work for running an actual simulation.  It should be fine for analysis.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_saltbr speed

2012-07-12 Thread Kavyashree M
Dear Sir,

Thank you It worked :). a very usefull suggestion.
But it did not promt to choose any option. I used
index file.

Thank you
Kavya

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 7/12/12 8:31 AM, Kavyashree M wrote:

 Ok may be i need to specify an index file. I will try that.
 And regarding the WARNING: this .tpx file is not fully functional.
 I hope it will work fine enough to finish g_saltbr calculation?


 In principle, you should be prompted to choose a default group, but you can
 also use a custom index group as needed.

 The warning message is intended to note that the .tpr file you produce will
 not likely work for running an actual simulation.  It should be fine for
 analysis.


 -Justin

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 Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
 Research Scientist
 Department of Biochemistry
 Virginia Tech
 Blacksburg, VA
 jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin

 


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