Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-14 Thread Karl Goetz
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:25:36 -0400
Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote:

 I've heard a report that the Free Pascal Compiler contains some
 non-free software (and a copyright violation) which was fixed in
 version 2.2.2.  Can you check this, and either remove it or upgrade
 it?
 
 Please ack when you've dealt with this.
 

It should be removed as part of the next builder run (1300 UTC), so
hopefully its gone in the next 10 hours.
kk

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Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-14 Thread Richard Stallman
It should be removed as part of the next builder run (1300 UTC), so
hopefully its gone in the next 10 hours.

That is good news.  Thanks.


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Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-14 Thread Karl Goetz
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:52:56 -0400
Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote:

 It should be removed as part of the next builder run (1300 UTC),
 so hopefully its gone in the next 10 hours.
 
 That is good news.  Thanks.

We've had problems with the buildd, but I've just manually pushed and
checked the changes.
kk

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Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-12 Thread crap0101
Il giorno sab, 13/06/2009 alle 09.47 +0930, Karl Goetz ha scritto:
 On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:22:59 +0200
 Benedikt Ahrens benedikt.ahr...@gmx.net wrote:
 
  This is an excerpt from the changelog, mentioning the problem with
  copyrighted software:
  ( see
  http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=618781group_id=2174
   )
  
  (*
 
 What is the package name? 'Free Pascal Compiler' doesnt appear in my
 apt-cache search.
 kk


fp-compiler


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Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-12 Thread Karl Goetz
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:31:13 +0200
crap0101 marco.chieppa-c...@poste.it wrote:

 Il giorno sab, 13/06/2009 alle 09.47 +0930, Karl Goetz ha scritto:
  On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:22:59 +0200
  Benedikt Ahrens benedikt.ahr...@gmx.net wrote:
  
   This is an excerpt from the changelog, mentioning the problem with
   copyrighted software:
   ( see
   http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=618781group_id=2174
)
   
   (*
  
  What is the package name? 'Free Pascal Compiler' doesnt appear in my
  apt-cache search.
  kk
 
 
 fp-compiler

Thanks, I'm running a test build on my buildd. Its taking a while
because I'm a little behind (got Linux to build. sigh.).
I'll report back when I know what the status is.
kk

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Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-09 Thread Sam Geeraerts

Richard Stallman schreef:

I've heard a report that the Free Pascal Compiler contains some
non-free software (and a copyright violation) which was fixed in
version 2.2.2.  Can you check this, and either remove it or upgrade it?

Please ack when you've dealt with this.


I've checked this and made a bug report: 
http://bugs.gnewsense.org/Bugs/00288



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Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-09 Thread Benedikt Ahrens
This is an excerpt from the changelog, mentioning the problem with
copyrighted software:
( see
http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=618781group_id=2174 )

(*

Changes:
Free Pascal Compiler

Version 2.2.2

**
  What's New in 2.2.2
**

[ ... ]

Some highlights are:

All:
  *  All code potentially infringing on CodeGear copyrighted code has been
 reimplemented using a cleanroom approach.

[ ... ]

*)

There was nothing mentioned about any non-free software in the
changelog. But i haven't checked the bug reports yet.

ben


On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Richard Stallmanr...@gnu.org wrote:
 I've heard a report that the Free Pascal Compiler contains some
 non-free software (and a copyright violation) which was fixed in
 version 2.2.2.  Can you check this, and either remove it or upgrade it?

 Please ack when you've dealt with this.


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Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-09 Thread crap0101
Il giorno mar, 09/06/2009 alle 09.22 +0200, Sam Geeraerts ha scritto:
 Richard Stallman schreef:
  I've heard a report that the Free Pascal Compiler contains some
  non-free software (and a copyright violation) which was fixed in
  version 2.2.2.  Can you check this, and either remove it or upgrade it?
  
  Please ack when you've dealt with this.
 
 I've checked this and made a bug report: 
 http://bugs.gnewsense.org/Bugs/00288
 

*maybe* we can safety upgrade the package using the version 2.2.2-8 from
the jaunty repos. I tried to install it ( and its dependence
fp-units-rtl )
~$ dpkg -i fp-compiler_2.2.2-8_i386.deb fp-units-rtl_2.2.2-8_i386.deb
and i got no errors or warnings, they works.

Or build a new package from the last version?





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Thoughts on Design Principles was Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-09 Thread Paul O'Malley - gnu's not unix -


*maybe* we can safety upgrade the package using the version 2.2.2-8 from
the jaunty repos. I tried to install it ( and its dependence
fp-units-rtl )
~$ dpkg -i fp-compiler_2.2.2-8_i386.deb fp-units-rtl_2.2.2-8_i386.deb
and i got no errors or warnings, they works.

Or build a new package from the last version?


trying that is the fastest way to fall flat on your face

you end up having to manage lots of change

the success of gns has been driven by making it easy to repeat the steps 
forward - maybe it is time to expand this


When we initially sat down to design the way this system was built we 
did the following.


Rule 1:  anything you do must be easy to repeat

Rule 2:  remember the changes you make increase the distance to your 
source and the work you must do for little return


The smaller the delta to upstream the easier it is to maintain.
If you change one thing make sure you are willing to keep maintaining 
that change.


This informed our lack of changes and importing, had we more support we 
would have been open to changing modality.


People are working hard on Lemote and I am wholly trilled to see this.

Perhaps it is time to look at a design of a system build differently.

Joining other distributions seems attractive at until you get up close, 
build methods are not well defined in my personal opinion, or they are 
not systems that are suitable for general use.


So where is this all going. You tell me! ;-)

Regards,
Paul




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Re: Thoughts on Design Principles was Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-09 Thread crap0101
Il giorno mar, 09/06/2009 alle 19.18 +0100, Paul O'Malley - gnu's not
unix - ha scritto:

  
  Or build a new package from the last version?
 
 trying that is the fastest way to fall flat on your face
 
...so remove it? :)

 
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Re: [Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-09 Thread Richard Stallman
Since this is a very important kind of bug, could you please let me
know when this is actually fixed?


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[Gnewsense-dev] Report of non-free software in gNewSense

2009-06-08 Thread Richard Stallman
I've heard a report that the Free Pascal Compiler contains some
non-free software (and a copyright violation) which was fixed in
version 2.2.2.  Can you check this, and either remove it or upgrade it?

Please ack when you've dealt with this.


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