RE: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)

2002-07-22 Thread bscott

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, at 5:37pm, Alan R. wrote:
> About the player being Vapoware...  I agree.  But they did just release a
> Mac OS X version of RealOne Player on July 17 so things look good.

  Oh, I certainly won't complain if it happens.  :)

  On a related note, I just found an "alpha" release for their "RealOne
Player" for Linux.  Follow the link from my previous message, choose tar.gz
as the download format, and, on the next page, look for the RealOne button
at the bottom of the regular download page.

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Re: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)

2002-07-22 Thread Kevin D. Clark


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> On 22 Jul 2002, at 4:05pm, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
> >>   Since when can RealPlayer decode Windows Media?  The version I have on
> >> Linux (8.0.3.421) certainly cannot.  More information, please.
> > 
> > Where does one obtain this version, anyways?
> 
>   http://proforma.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html

Thanks!  You just saved me a huge headache...

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RE: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)

2002-07-22 Thread Alan R.

The Real :) point I should have made concerning performance was really
associated to cost savings.

The current Helix Universal Server running on Linux has essentially
no software cost and can support 8000 Microsft streams for a given server.

The Microsoft alternative requires a company to run the MS Streaming server
software on top of a MS Windows 2000 (Enterprise?) server and could
support only 2000 streams.  Meaning you have to buy 3 more servers (and
licenses) to equal the performance of the linux server.

About the player being Vapoware...  I agree.  But they did just release
a Mac OS X version of RealOne Player on July 17 so things look good.
http://www.realnetworks.com/company/press/releases/2002/r1macbeta.html
-Alan

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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, at 4:42pm, Alan R. wrote:
> The CEO was really high on the helix server running on Linux.

  Just FYI, RealServer, their current proprietary product, already runs on
Linux, so making the Open Source version run on Linux should be a
no-brainer.  :-)

> He also speculated that a Linux version of the Helix player would be
> available within 90 days.

  "It's all vaporware until I can see the code."  -- Me

  :-)

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RE: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)

2002-07-22 Thread bscott

On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, at 4:42pm, Alan R. wrote:
> The CEO was really high on the helix server running on Linux.

  Just FYI, RealServer, their current proprietary product, already runs on
Linux, so making the Open Source version run on Linux should be a
no-brainer.  :-)

> He also speculated that a Linux version of the Helix player would be
> available within 90 days.

  "It's all vaporware until I can see the code."  -- Me

  :-)

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Re: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)

2002-07-22 Thread bscott

On 22 Jul 2002, at 4:05pm, Kevin D. Clark wrote:
>>   Since when can RealPlayer decode Windows Media?  The version I have on
>> Linux (8.0.3.421) certainly cannot.  More information, please.
> 
> Where does one obtain this version, anyways?

  http://proforma.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html

  Don't ask me how I found that URL.  I tried to reproduce the navigation
path on their website, and could not.  I seem to remember their "Service and
Support" section being a backdoor into much good stuff not readily available
through more obvious channels, but even that appears to be stoppered up
right now.  Then again, I didn't look very hard, having that URL on-hand
this time around.

  This must be some new software product marketing strategy: Make sure
nobody can download your product, and... uh... er

> Incidently, I was trying to get this 5.x version running on a RedHat 7.3
> box the other day and I didn't have a lot of luck.

  I don't think you would.  AFAIK, Red Hat only supports the previous major
release for binary compatibility.  You would have to install the old RHL 5.x
libraries yourself.  Possible, but not fun.

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RE: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)

2002-07-22 Thread Alan R.

I watched the Helix announcement today and it really did seem like something
is going on.
The Developers sight (I guess) is:
http://www.helixcommunity.org/
I'm a user not an engineer.

The CEO was really high on the helix server running on Linux.
He actually said he can get 400% greater performance in streaming
MS .asf Streams through the new Helix Universal server running on Linux.
He was practically giddy.

He also speculated that a Linux version of the Helix player would
be available within 90 days.  Again, it should be able to play virtually
every major multimedia stream including Microsoft.
FYI,
Alan

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>   Since when can RealPlayer decode Windows Media?  The version I have on
> Linux (8.0.3.421) certainly cannot.  More information, please.

Where does one obtain this version, anyways?  I've struggled with
Real's web page and have only been able to determine that the 5.x
version (for free or for $$) is available for any of the Unices that I
run.

Incidently, I was trying to get this 5.x version running on a RedHat
7.3 box the other day and I didn't have a lot of luck.  I think that
this might have been a shared library problem, but I didn't have time
to investigate.

Thanks,

--kevin
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