RE: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, at 5:37pm, Alan R. wrote: > About the player being Vapoware... I agree. But they did just release a > Mac OS X version of RealOne Player on July 17 so things look good. Oh, I certainly won't complain if it happens. :) On a related note, I just found an "alpha" release for their "RealOne Player" for Linux. Follow the link from my previous message, choose tar.gz as the download format, and, on the next page, look for the RealOne button at the bottom of the regular download page. -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On 22 Jul 2002, at 4:05pm, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > >> Since when can RealPlayer decode Windows Media? The version I have on > >> Linux (8.0.3.421) certainly cannot. More information, please. > > > > Where does one obtain this version, anyways? > > http://proforma.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html Thanks! You just saved me a huge headache... --kevin -- Kevin D. Clark / Cetacean Networks / Portsmouth, N.H. (USA) cetaceannetworks.com!kclark (GnuPG ID: B280F24E) alumni.unh.edu!kdc * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
RE: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)
The Real :) point I should have made concerning performance was really associated to cost savings. The current Helix Universal Server running on Linux has essentially no software cost and can support 8000 Microsft streams for a given server. The Microsoft alternative requires a company to run the MS Streaming server software on top of a MS Windows 2000 (Enterprise?) server and could support only 2000 streams. Meaning you have to buy 3 more servers (and licenses) to equal the performance of the linux server. About the player being Vapoware... I agree. But they did just release a Mac OS X version of RealOne Player on July 17 so things look good. http://www.realnetworks.com/company/press/releases/2002/r1macbeta.html -Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:21 PM To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group Subject: RE: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?) On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, at 4:42pm, Alan R. wrote: > The CEO was really high on the helix server running on Linux. Just FYI, RealServer, their current proprietary product, already runs on Linux, so making the Open Source version run on Linux should be a no-brainer. :-) > He also speculated that a Linux version of the Helix player would be > available within 90 days. "It's all vaporware until I can see the code." -- Me :-) -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/29/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/29/2002 * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
RE: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, at 4:42pm, Alan R. wrote: > The CEO was really high on the helix server running on Linux. Just FYI, RealServer, their current proprietary product, already runs on Linux, so making the Open Source version run on Linux should be a no-brainer. :-) > He also speculated that a Linux version of the Helix player would be > available within 90 days. "It's all vaporware until I can see the code." -- Me :-) -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)
On 22 Jul 2002, at 4:05pm, Kevin D. Clark wrote: >> Since when can RealPlayer decode Windows Media? The version I have on >> Linux (8.0.3.421) certainly cannot. More information, please. > > Where does one obtain this version, anyways? http://proforma.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html Don't ask me how I found that URL. I tried to reproduce the navigation path on their website, and could not. I seem to remember their "Service and Support" section being a backdoor into much good stuff not readily available through more obvious channels, but even that appears to be stoppered up right now. Then again, I didn't look very hard, having that URL on-hand this time around. This must be some new software product marketing strategy: Make sure nobody can download your product, and... uh... er > Incidently, I was trying to get this 5.x version running on a RedHat 7.3 > box the other day and I didn't have a lot of luck. I don't think you would. AFAIK, Red Hat only supports the previous major release for binary compatibility. You would have to install the old RHL 5.x libraries yourself. Possible, but not fun. -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
RE: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?)
I watched the Helix announcement today and it really did seem like something is going on. The Developers sight (I guess) is: http://www.helixcommunity.org/ I'm a user not an engineer. The CEO was really high on the helix server running on Linux. He actually said he can get 400% greater performance in streaming MS .asf Streams through the new Helix Universal server running on Linux. He was practically giddy. He also speculated that a Linux version of the Helix player would be available within 90 days. Again, it should be able to play virtually every major multimedia stream including Microsoft. FYI, Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin D. Clark Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: realplayer (was: Re: RealNetworks going Open Source?) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Since when can RealPlayer decode Windows Media? The version I have on > Linux (8.0.3.421) certainly cannot. More information, please. Where does one obtain this version, anyways? I've struggled with Real's web page and have only been able to determine that the 5.x version (for free or for $$) is available for any of the Unices that I run. Incidently, I was trying to get this 5.x version running on a RedHat 7.3 box the other day and I didn't have a lot of luck. I think that this might have been a shared library problem, but I didn't have time to investigate. Thanks, --kevin -- Kevin D. Clark / Cetacean Networks / Portsmouth, N.H. (USA) cetaceannetworks.com!kclark (GnuPG ID: B280F24E) alumni.unh.edu!kdc * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/29/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/29/2002 * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *