Re: Oops - web site is down [and need a web calendar]

2003-06-11 Thread Bruce Dawson
I should point out that we (well, maybe mostly me) owe a debt of
gratitude to Roger Goun for fixing the web site while I was away today.
If it wasn't for him, then we'd be waiting until the wee hours this
morning (or this weekend) for the web site to come back on-line.

Many, many thanks to Roger!

--Bruce


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Re: Oops - web site is down [and need a web calendar]

2003-06-11 Thread Bruce Dawson
I believe everything but the calendar is back up and running.

Does anyone have good experiences with web calendars that we could use?
(It must run on a Redhat 7.3 system and support virtual hosting.)

Yes - I know there are a lot on freshmeat, sourceforge, ..., but I'm
looking for ones that people have used and may have some experience with
in a group setting similar to GNHLUG's.



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Re: CSS Question

2003-06-11 Thread Jefferson Kirkland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So, anyone have any really good links for learning CSS?
(Coles ref to w3schools already noted :)
 

Well, one that I found before finding the w3schools page was:  
http://www.draac.com/css/css1.html

It was a good start. 

Regards,

Jeff



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Re: Emacs fu.

2003-06-11 Thread Kevin D. Clark

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> Hi, all.  I am not, alas, an Emacs guru, so when one of my engineers had
> the following problem, while I think it rang a bell, I can't for the life
> of me remember how to resolve it.  He edits Verilog files, some large,
> some smaller.  The small ones get the spiffy Verilog mode formatting;
> however, the large ones don't.  He thinks he saw an error "Buffer too
> large" flash up -- however, the machine he's on has goobs (4 GB) of
> RAM, so it's almost certainly not a system restraint, but an Emacs
> configuration constraint.
> 
> Where do I change it?

Short answer:

(setq font-lock-maximum-size nil)

Alternate answer:

Consider using lazy-lock instead.  This will cause Emacs to try to
fontify only the part of the buffer that is visible, and not
everything:

Here's a snippet from my .emacs:

;;; 
;;; lazy-lock is a package which speeds up the highlighting of files
;;; by doing it "on-the-fly" -- only the visible portion of the
;;; buffer is fontified.  The results may not always be quite as
;;; accurate as using full font-lock or fast-lock, but it's *much*
;;; faster.  No more annoying pauses when you load files.

(add-hook 'font-lock-mode-hook 'turn-on-lazy-lock)
;; I personally don't like "stealth mode" (where lazy-lock starts
;; fontifying in the background if you're idle for 30 seconds)
;; because it takes too long to wake up again on my piddly Sparc 1+.
(setq lazy-lock-stealth-time nil)


Hope this helps,

--kevin
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inside--like wheels grinding out the mimicry of a voice--or whether
they really groan, that is, because they honestly experience the pain?
A pretty distinction, this! No, Trurl, a sufferer is not one who hands
you his suffering, so that you may touch it, weigh it, bite it like a
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Re: CSS Question

2003-06-11 Thread pll

In a message dated: 11 Jun 2003 15:44:34 EDT
Cole Tuininga said:

>I apologize if this is off topic. 
[...snip...]

I don't think it is, since

>I'm attempting to finally learn the "correct" way of doing things with
>xhtml and css.

A) me too
B) I'm using Linux, and this is a linux list ;)

Actually, what I'm interested in, is using CSS to replace tables for 
alignment.

I should probably get me a book on CSS, but, well, I'm lazy! 

So, anyone have any really good links for learning CSS?
(Coles ref to w3schools already noted :)

Thanks,
-- 

Seeya,
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Emacs fu.

2003-06-11 Thread ken
Hi, all.  I am not, alas, an Emacs guru, so when one of my engineers had
the following problem, while I think it rang a bell, I can't for the life
of me remember how to resolve it.  He edits Verilog files, some large,
some smaller.  The small ones get the spiffy Verilog mode formatting;
however, the large ones don't.  He thinks he saw an error "Buffer too
large" flash up -- however, the machine he's on has goobs (4 GB) of
RAM, so it's almost certainly not a system restraint, but an Emacs
configuration constraint.

Where do I change it?

Thanks,

-Ken
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Re: CSS Question

2003-06-11 Thread Erik Price


Cole Tuininga wrote:

As I understand, the "correct" way to do it now would be with style
sheets.  However, I can't seem to figure out the attribute to use.  The
closest I could find was "text-align", but that seems to only work on
text (which does make sense).
I've been using www.w3schools.com (a very handy reference) to pick up
xhtml and css, but I couldn't find anything about this in there. 
Anybody have any hints, pointers, etc?
The CSS2 spec lets you get really detailed about exactly where you want 
stuff to go -- but most browsers don't have full support for it yet. 
But it sounds like you've discovered "float" does the job.

If you ever want to "center-align" an image, one recommended way is to 
set its margin-left and margin-right properties to "auto".  This is a 
clip from the CSS on my personal site (which has a centered image):

div.glamour img {
border-color: #FFF;
border-width: thin;
}
div.glamour p {
width: 35em;
text-align: center;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
}
I'm centering the entire div whose class is "glamour" but you can 
equally apply this to an img tag.



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Re: CSS Question

2003-06-11 Thread Cole Tuininga

Doh - figured it out.  I wanted the "float" attribute.  Thanks for
listening to me waste bandwidth.  *sheepish grin*

-- 
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CSS Question

2003-06-11 Thread Cole Tuininga

I apologize if this is off topic.  If it's of any help, I'm working on
designing some documentation for an API who's backend is written in
python to be run on linux.  8)

I'm attempting to finally learn the "correct" way of doing things with
xhtml and css.  My question is basically this: using a "strict" document
type, how does one align an image?  In good 'ole html, I'd probably just
do something hackish like:





Then we got "more" politically correct and would do:





This is valid in a "transitional" xhtml doctype, but not in "strict"
which is what we're trying to conform to.


As I understand, the "correct" way to do it now would be with style
sheets.  However, I can't seem to figure out the attribute to use.  The
closest I could find was "text-align", but that seems to only work on
text (which does make sense).


I've been using www.w3schools.com (a very handy reference) to pick up
xhtml and css, but I couldn't find anything about this in there. 
Anybody have any hints, pointers, etc?  


-- 
"I have tact.  I just choose not to use it."
-Ben Scott

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RE: postgresql

2003-06-11 Thread Sharpe, Richard
I fixed up the response to clear up what I wrote (Rich) and what the
original msg was.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Sharpe, Richard 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:24 AM
To: 'Cole Tuininga'; Sharpe, Richard
Cc: GNHLUG List
Subject: RE: postgresql

 
Cole

See below for my responses, hope it helps you out

Rich

Richard A Sharpe
Database Analyst and Administration (DBA) Sqlserver/DB2
Amherst Technologies
40 Continental Blvd
Merrimack, NH 03054
PHONE ...(603) 579-6180 / (800) 431-8031
Cell phone ..(603) 320-7785
FAX ...(603) 578-1072
EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Webpage ...www.amherst1.com 

"Tenemos que tener fe" ("We must have faith")


-Original Message-
From: Cole Tuininga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:57 PM
To: Sharpe, Richard
Cc: GNHLUG List
Subject: RE: postgresql

On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 13:40, Sharpe, Richard wrote:
> Erik
> 
>   I am a DBA and have been for over 20 years and my all time favorite
> RDBMS is DB2 and now especially that it runs on LINUX and that the LINUX
> flavor of DB2 is enjoying much attention from IBM, I think it is hands
down
> better than Oracle.

Ahhh - you've proclaimed knowledge of another RDBMS - you must now
subject yourself to public questioning.  *grin*

Seriously though, I do have some questions:

1) How difficult is it to administrate?  With mysql, for the most part
we set it up and just leave it.  Occassionally we have to add (or
remove) permissions to connect to it for a given user or host, but other
than that it just sits there.  On top of which, mysql is incredibly
simple to set up, IMHO.  Would we need a full time DBA for DB2?

=
Rich wrote:
Administering DB2 is a bit more than installing and leaving it alone, I
won't go into it but it is not for a novice. Adding perms and such there is
a admin client and in the 8.x versions it is quite nice and graphical
although I prefer the command line, which why I like LINUX. Yes you would
need a DBA, and it would matter how active or how many instances you had as
to how much time the DBA would need to spend on maint/monitoring.
===

2) Do I need a super beast of a machine to run a big database?  Right
now we have a 3.6 Gig database running on a dual Xeon 2.4GHz with 4 GB
of memory ... which is actually quite a bit of overkill for our dataset
and usage.  

===
Rich wrote:

I have a 25 gig db running on a dual hpnetserver that has 200 mhz cpu's in
running SuSE 8.1 LINUX and it hardly breaks a sweat, this same box had
Windows 2000 Server with SQLserver 2000 on it running the same DB and it was
painfully slow.
=


3) Does it support realtime replication?  Two way replication?  Yes

4) I'm assuming it has the full feature set (things I'm not used to
having in MySQL) such as triggers, stored procedures, views, etc?  What
language(s) is/are supported for the stored procedures?


Rich wrote:
Yes it has it all, Lang - sql, C, Perl, Cobol, etc
===


5) Is there a free version that can be used for evaluation/development
purposes? 

===
Rich wrote:

Yes, here is the link
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/product.jsp?pf=Linux&s=c&id=TD
UN-49EVGU&type=b&presb=&postsb=&cat=data
==

I understand you may not know the answer to these questions, but any
answers you do have would be interesting, to me at least.  8)

==
Rich wrote:

I tried my best any other questions just ask.


-- 
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Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-11 Thread David Long
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 06:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> > One of the things I read in attbi.ne.techtalk.general
> > is that all a Linux user like me has to do is config
> > different IP addrs for the POP, SMTP and NNTP servers,
> > reportedly these:
> > 
> >  send email (SMTP):smtp.comcast.net
> >  receive email (POP3): pop3.comcast.net
> >  news (NNTP):  news.comcast.giganews.com

I just talked to Comcast phone support and said I was a Linux user and
needed the info (to paraphrase Dr. Evil).  They were quite helpful and
succint.  The information I got for Nashua was:

outgoing email:  smtp.comcast.net
incoming email:  mail.comcast.net (POP3)

They confirmed nothing else needed changing (didn't ask about news).  My
new email will be my old username in the comcast.net domain.  They said
the existing username would *not* be carried over in all cases.  The
changes are affective 00:00 EDT 7/1/03.

I personally would manually set this stuff even if I were using
windoze.  I don't want to be coerced into checking any boxes on some
online signup thing.  Of course I try to never use my windoze box on the
internet, mostly a matter of principle.  Note their webpages state that
continued use of their service is implicit agreement to their terms and
conditions.

They did not mention issues with email forwarding when not using the
"transition wizard", although I did not specifically ask.

-dl
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JumpShift, LLC

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Oops - web site is down

2003-06-11 Thread Bruce Dawson
Sigh. It appears that the server upgrade last night hosed the web server.
The mail service should still be running though (I'll know for sure if I
get a bounce on this message).

Unfortunately, I won't be able to fix it until later tonight.

--Bruce


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Re: FW: postgresql

2003-06-11 Thread Michael O'Donnell


>Don't look at me, I took the blue pill.

...well, then we'll all DEFINITELY be keeping our distance.
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Re: OT: Perl and Javascript

2003-06-11 Thread Thomas J Fogal
On 10 Jun 2003, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:

> On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 16:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > In a message dated: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:24:43 EDT
> > Morbus Iff said:
> > 
> > > >Since we seem to have an abundance of Perl experts today, I have a
> > > >perplexing problem... I am trying to write a script that logs into a
> > > >website. The problem that I am running into is that the website requires
> > > >javascript. If the site detects that the "browser" doesn't support
> > > >javascript, then it loads the login form as an "unmodifiable form text
> > > >field" (as reported by lynx). Does anyone know a way around this?
> > >
> > >If the login is authenticated with javascript (?!!), then you're screwed. 
> > >What web site is it? Your best bet is to find out what the javascript is 
> > >exactly doing.

well, i dont know that you're screwed...

> > 
> > Which shouldn't be too hard, since you should be able to View->Source
> > and see the java script lines to determine what's going on.
> 
> I was just looking at the source, and it looks like I have another
> problem. The site *ALSO* requires cookies to be enabled (which I can get
> around using HTTP::Cookies, I think). The login code on the site doesn't
> use javascript, except for the button:
> 
> 
> 
>  action="/scripts/loginmanager.dll?login" method=post onSubmit="return
> prepare(this)"

aside from some function 'prepare' which probably just makes sure data is 
in the correct format, the javascript probably isnt important here. bypass 
this login page entirely and simply send an HTTP POST request to the 
websites '/scripts/loginmanager.dll?login', making sure to append 
appropriately named values. i dont know the exact semantics of an HTTP 
POST but i do know that you have to include every field, named 
after its 'name=' value. well, at least thats how i interpret it, from 
working with PHP, POSTing and GETing things all over the place.

 > target=_top>
> 
> 
>  value="647c2fc1fd44c1dbed0f58315e9dd1935876f5ec">
>  style="WIDTH: 150px">
> 
> User
> Name 
> 
> 
>  size=1>Password
>  onKeyPress="return b_onkeypress()">
> 
> 
> 
> I looked at CPAN, and I installed JavaScript-0.52. But, in all honesty,
> I read through the documentaion on CPAN, and I think I'm more lost now
> than I was 20 minutes ago!!

my advice is to forget the javascript, and create your own POST to the 
login script. cookies might be a different story, and whatever you have to 
do after logging in might also require javascript sooo.. well just hope 
it doesnt :P

HTH,

-tom

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Re: FW: postgresql

2003-06-11 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 11:42, Sharpe, Richard wrote:
> Cole
> 
> See below for my responses, hope it helps you out

I certainly found it interesting - we may try playing with it.  Thanks
for taking time to answer the questions. 

-- 
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FW: postgresql

2003-06-11 Thread Sharpe, Richard
-Original Message-
From: Sharpe, Richard 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:24 AM
To: 'Cole Tuininga'; Sharpe, Richard
Cc: GNHLUG List
Subject: RE: postgresql

 
Cole

See below for my responses, hope it helps you out

Rich

Richard A Sharpe
Database Analyst and Administration (DBA) Sqlserver/DB2
Amherst Technologies
40 Continental Blvd
Merrimack, NH 03054
PHONE ...(603) 579-6180 / (800) 431-8031
Cell phone ..(603) 320-7785
FAX ...(603) 578-1072
EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Webpage ...www.amherst1.com 

"Tenemos que tener fe" ("We must have faith")


-Original Message-
From: Cole Tuininga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:57 PM
To: Sharpe, Richard
Cc: GNHLUG List
Subject: RE: postgresql

On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 13:40, Sharpe, Richard wrote:
> Erik
> 
>   I am a DBA and have been for over 20 years and my all time favorite
> RDBMS is DB2 and now especially that it runs on LINUX and that the LINUX
> flavor of DB2 is enjoying much attention from IBM, I think it is hands
down
> better than Oracle.

Ahhh - you've proclaimed knowledge of another RDBMS - you must now
subject yourself to public questioning.  *grin*

Seriously though, I do have some questions:

1) How difficult is it to administrate?  With mysql, for the most part
we set it up and just leave it.  Occassionally we have to add (or
remove) permissions to connect to it for a given user or host, but other
than that it just sits there.  On top of which, mysql is incredibly
simple to set up, IMHO.  Would we need a full time DBA for DB2?

Administering DB2 is a bit more than installing and leaving it alone, I
won't go into it but it is not for a novice. Adding perms and such there is
a admin client and in the 8.x versions it is quite nice and graphical
although I prefer the command line, which why I like LINUX. Yes you would
need a DBA, and it would matter how active or how many instances you had as
to how much time the DBA would need to spend on maint/monitoring.

2) Do I need a super beast of a machine to run a big database?  Right
now we have a 3.6 Gig database running on a dual Xeon 2.4GHz with 4 GB
of memory ... which is actually quite a bit of overkill for our dataset
and usage.  
I have a 25 gig db running on a dual hpnetserver that has 200 mhz cpu's in
running SuSE 8.1 LINUX and it hardly breaks a sweat, this same box had
Windows 2000 Server with SQLserver 2000 on it running the same DB and it was
painfully slow.

3) Does it support realtime replication?  Two way replication?  Yes

4) I'm assuming it has the full feature set (things I'm not used to
having in MySQL) such as triggers, stored procedures, views, etc?  What
language(s) is/are supported for the stored procedures?

Yes it has it all, Lang - sql, C, Perl, Cobol, etc

5) Is there a free version that can be used for evaluation/development
purposes? Yes, here is the link
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/product.jsp?pf=Linux&s=c&id=TD
UN-49EVGU&type=b&presb=&postsb=&cat=data


I understand you may not know the answer to these questions, but any
answers you do have would be interesting, to me at least.  8)

I tried my best any other questions just ask.

-- 
Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

Cole Tuininga
Lead Developer
Code Energy, Inc
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RE: postgresql

2003-06-11 Thread Sharpe, Richard
 
Cole

See below for my responses, hope it helps you out

Rich

Richard A Sharpe
Database Analyst and Administration (DBA) Sqlserver/DB2
Amherst Technologies
40 Continental Blvd
Merrimack, NH 03054
PHONE ...(603) 579-6180 / (800) 431-8031
Cell phone ..(603) 320-7785
FAX ...(603) 578-1072
EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Webpage ...www.amherst1.com 

"Tenemos que tener fe" ("We must have faith")


-Original Message-
From: Cole Tuininga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:57 PM
To: Sharpe, Richard
Cc: GNHLUG List
Subject: RE: postgresql

On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 13:40, Sharpe, Richard wrote:
> Erik
> 
>   I am a DBA and have been for over 20 years and my all time favorite
> RDBMS is DB2 and now especially that it runs on LINUX and that the LINUX
> flavor of DB2 is enjoying much attention from IBM, I think it is hands
down
> better than Oracle.

Ahhh - you've proclaimed knowledge of another RDBMS - you must now
subject yourself to public questioning.  *grin*

Seriously though, I do have some questions:

1) How difficult is it to administrate?  With mysql, for the most part
we set it up and just leave it.  Occassionally we have to add (or
remove) permissions to connect to it for a given user or host, but other
than that it just sits there.  On top of which, mysql is incredibly
simple to set up, IMHO.  Would we need a full time DBA for DB2?

Administering DB2 is a bit more than installing and leaving it alone, I
won't go into it but it is not for a novice. Adding perms and such there is
a admin client and in the 8.x versions it is quite nice and graphical
although I prefer the command line, which why I like LINUX. Yes you would
need a DBA, and it would matter how active or how many instances you had as
to how much time the DBA would need to spend on maint/monitoring.

2) Do I need a super beast of a machine to run a big database?  Right
now we have a 3.6 Gig database running on a dual Xeon 2.4GHz with 4 GB
of memory ... which is actually quite a bit of overkill for our dataset
and usage.  
I have a 25 gig db running on a dual hpnetserver that has 200 mhz cpu's in
running SuSE 8.1 LINUX and it hardly breaks a sweat, this same box had
Windows 2000 Server with SQLserver 2000 on it running the same DB and it was
painfully slow.

3) Does it support realtime replication?  Two way replication?  Yes

4) I'm assuming it has the full feature set (things I'm not used to
having in MySQL) such as triggers, stored procedures, views, etc?  What
language(s) is/are supported for the stored procedures?

Yes it has it all, Lang - sql, C, Perl, Cobol, etc

5) Is there a free version that can be used for evaluation/development
purposes? Yes, here is the link
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/product.jsp?pf=Linux&s=c&id=TD
UN-49EVGU&type=b&presb=&postsb=&cat=data


I understand you may not know the answer to these questions, but any
answers you do have would be interesting, to me at least.  8)

I tried my best any other questions just ask.

-- 
Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

Cole Tuininga
Lead Developer
Code Energy, Inc
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OT: Re: Humorously bizarre prohibition in RCN TOS

2003-06-11 Thread Erik Price


Kenny Donahue wrote:
Hardware aka, MARK 13.
Cheated. used the web. google and imdb.com
I could use the extra life.
Kenny
args.

Yep, I forgot to say that you can't use Google.  But you're right, it 
was "Hardware".



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