Re: DSL firewall/router solutions?

2003-07-15 Thread Derek Doucette
 Or, is it just easier to use iptables/netfilter on my system at home
 and make that the router/ firewall for my network?

   For someone with your experience level, Paul, I'd say to go with
 IPTables.
 It isn't hard, and you'll never run into something you can't do.

A co-worker of mine is using ipcop as his firewall.  It is a
firewall/router distro with all sorts of features. 2.4 kernel support,
good web based rule setup that works in lynx (can't say that about
linksys), dmz
support if you want.  Check it out at http://www.ipcop.org

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Re: Walmart.com sells Microtel PC with SuSE Linux software

2003-07-15 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt
I'm no big fan of Walmart, however, I'm not so sure the state of
Vermont is necessarily doing wha the residents really want. We
go camping in Northern NH frequently and on occasion stop
at the Walmart in Littleton NH. I can't help but notice the
disproportionately large number of Vermont license plates in the
parking lot. Again, I view Walmart as just another purveryor
of rampant cut-throat consumerism, but, who's driving it?
It's good to see them pushing linux boxes. We know that
altruism is not the impetus. It sort of proves that linux must
be a marketable item on a large scale.
Thomas M. Albright wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Andrew W. Gaunt wrote:

 

Perhaps Walmart will sue SCO into oblivion and clear up
the mess being made.  They've got the financial resources
to do it.
   

Excpet that WalMart is a worse monster than SCO. SCO sues individual 
companies. WalMart sued the state of Vermont when the state said no to 
the giant moving in.

They're not the Caring, Community Store they want you to belive, any 
more than SCO is UNIX.

 

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Re: Walmart.com sells Microtel PC with SuSE Linux software

2003-07-15 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, Jul 15th 2003 at 08:41 -0400, quoth Andrew W. Gaunt:

=
=I'm no big fan of Walmart, however, I'm not so sure the state of
=Vermont is necessarily doing wha the residents really want. We
=go camping in Northern NH frequently and on occasion stop
=at the Walmart in Littleton NH. I can't help but notice the
=disproportionately large number of Vermont license plates in the
=parking lot. Again, I view Walmart as just another purveryor
=of rampant cut-throat consumerism, but, who's driving it?
=
=It's good to see them pushing linux boxes. We know that
=altruism is not the impetus. It sort of proves that linux must
=be a marketable item on a large scale.
=
=Thomas M. Albright wrote:
=
=On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Andrew W. Gaunt wrote:
=
=  
=
=Perhaps Walmart will sue SCO into oblivion and clear up
=the mess being made.  They've got the financial resources
=to do it.
=
=
=
=Excpet that WalMart is a worse monster than SCO. SCO sues individual 
=companies. WalMart sued the state of Vermont when the state said no to 
=the giant moving in.
=
=They're not the Caring, Community Store they want you to belive, any 
=more than SCO is UNIX.

This is clearly not a linux question but I'm still curious nonetheless.

I know that Walmart is capable of wiping out lots of small businesses 
almost overnight, but without sounding like a cold cruel unfeeling 
Republican, what's wrong with that? The free enterprise system is at play 
here. What right did the State of VT have to try to block them in the 
first place? I understand that the Planning Board of a municipality may 
have objections from a local regs perspective. Other than that, I just 
don't get it.

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Re: Errr! DSL is here, DSL is gone.

2003-07-15 Thread Bob Bell
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 03:00:59AM -0400, Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
FWIW, it should also be possible to have the firewall fix-up script
  invoked automatically when the dhcpcd daemon sees the new IP address.  
  It is supposed to be able to invoke an external program when that
  happens.  I've never tried it, though.
 
 It works, too. On RH/Mandrake systems (at least), you just name the script
 /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-interface.exe, and it will run whenever dhcpcd gets a
 new IP address on interface. I use it to update my system's A record
 on ZoneEdit's DNS servers, and then mail me my new IP address.

On my RH9 system I use /etc/dhclient-enter-hooks to modify my
system's /etc/resolv.conf file to my liking.  You can also use
/etc/dhclient-exit-hooks (see the dhclient-script man page).

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Re: Walmart.com sells Microtel PC with SuSE Linux software

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 10:16:31AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote:
 If walmart moves into a town predominated by little shops, and they
 all can't compete with walmart (and rest assured they can't), then the
 owners of those shops will have to close down, and go get jobs at
 walmart.  Their incomes will likely be reduced by between 50 and 75
 percent, and along with it their disposable incomes will be
 drastically reduced, meaning they have almost no money to spend on
 things besides basic necessities.
 
Don't forget a lot of the profit then gets sent to AK and are thus
not spent in the local community or even in the state, reducing state
revenues.  It's in VT's interest to keep the money in the state.

-Mark


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Mozilla is leaving AOL

2003-07-15 Thread pll

Big news!

Check out http://www.mozilla.org

This hasn't hit /. yet.  I just heard on IRC from some of the mozilla 
folks!




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Re: DSL firewall/router solutions?

2003-07-15 Thread pll

In a message dated: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:42:52 EDT
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, at 7:35pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If it weren't my brain-lapses requiring you to answer what most would
 consider rather obvious and self-evident questions, we'd have almost no
 traffic here.

  We could always go back to talking about NIS and NFS.  ;-)

Nahhh, that's no fun :)
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Re: DSL firewall/router solutions?

2003-07-15 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 22:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
   Once you are registered and have a username and password, you never need
 to use their software again.  I recommend burning it.  It's a great symbolic
 gesture.[1]
 

You can still get around installing software. I just got DSL 2 weeks ago
(4 day turnaround from signing up on web site to going live, not bad if
you ask me).

I have a SMC Barricade Wireless Hub/router/NAT. I called Verizon's 800
number (5 minute wait) and said 'I see you support Hubs/NAT, what do I
use for my username/password? The guy walked me through it giving me a
temporary username/password to get connected, then I went to their web
interface and gave myself a real username/password and reset the SMC to
use that, rebooted and everything worked! Oh, and make sure that you
plug your DSL filters into the WALL and not into the telephones! It
makes a big difference!

 Footnote
 
 [1] Credit to Linus Torvalds.

That's from the coding style readme regarding the GNU coding style! :-O


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Re: Mozilla is leaving AOL

2003-07-15 Thread Erik Price


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Big news!

	Check out http://www.mozilla.org

This hasn't hit /. yet.  I just heard on IRC from some of the mozilla 
folks!
Nice new site layout too!



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looking for GNU project standards

2003-07-15 Thread pll

Hi all,

I'm trying to find some doc that outlines the stardard config of a 
GNU project.  For example, I know they require a README and INSTALL 
file.  I want to know what other files they either require or 
recommend, and where in the project directory hierarchy they should 
go.

I've searched gnu/fsf.org, but can't seem to find anything like this.
Anyone have any ideas?
(I can't believe they don't have an FAQ outlining how to start a GNU 
project :)

Thanks,


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Heads up Galeon and RH 8 users

2003-07-15 Thread Jeff Macdonald
Hi,
So Redhat has new RPMS for mozilla, 1.01 - 1.02. Apparently Galeon
doesn't list mozilla as a dependency. Galeon in now broken!

What I've found so far:

in /usr/bin/galeon:

change mozilla-1.0.1 to mozilla-1.0.2 

This gets me beyond 
Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set
MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory

I now get this:
/usr/bin/galeon-bin: relocation error: /usr/bin/galeon-bin: undefined
symbol: begin_assignment__13nsCOMPtr_base

and I think I'm hosed until Redhat releases a Galeon update.

Any ideas?
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Re: Heads up Galeon and RH 8 users

2003-07-15 Thread Tom Fogal
I would imagine grabbing the source and compiling yourself would work well
enough.

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/galeon/galeon-1.2.11.tar.gz?download

-tom

 Hi,
 So Redhat has new RPMS for mozilla, 1.01 - 1.02. Apparently Galeon
 doesn't list mozilla as a dependency. Galeon in now broken!
 
 What I've found so far:
 
 in /usr/bin/galeon:
 
 change mozilla-1.0.1 to mozilla-1.0.2 
 
 This gets me beyond 
 Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set
 MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory
 
 I now get this:
 /usr/bin/galeon-bin: relocation error: /usr/bin/galeon-bin: undefined
 symbol: begin_assignment__13nsCOMPtr_base
 
 and I think I'm hosed until Redhat releases a Galeon update.
 
 Any ideas?
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Re: Heads up Galeon and RH 8 users

2003-07-15 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 02:17:04PM -0400, Jeff Macdonald wrote:

 Any ideas?

  Well, I don't know how much people have kept up on the GNOME so
called development, but apparently, epiphany is now the browser of
choice for GNOME.  Galeon was passed over for epiphany to be bundled
the GNOME releases, and there are not even any rpms available in
Red Hat's rawhide tree.
  If you're not familiar with epiphany, it's got to be the
most feature challenged web browser in existence.  About the only
thing it's got going for it is its new (and better, IMO) approach
to bookmark management -- non-heirarchical with the addition of
bookmark searching.
  This is yet another impetus for me to begin my wholesale migration
to KDE.  Galeon is my last holdout now that the newest kmail (available
from Red Hat's rawhide) will import a file with multiple vcf entries
in it.  If it turns out that konqueror can provide the features from
galeon that I need and use often, then I'm sold.

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Re: Walmart.com sells Microtel PC with SuSE Linux software

2003-07-15 Thread Tom Buskey
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 10:16:31AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote:
|If walmart moves into a town predominated by little shops, and they
|all can't compete with walmart (and rest assured they can't), then the
|owners of those shops will have to close down, and go get jobs at
|walmart.  Their incomes will likely be reduced by between 50 and 75
|percent, and along with it their disposable incomes will be
|drastically reduced, meaning they have almost no money to spend on
|things besides basic necessities.
s/Walmart/McDonald's/g
s/Walmart/K-Mart/g
s/Walmart/Target/g
s/Walmart/Pizza Hut/g
s/Walmart/Dunkin Donuts/g
s/Walmart/Krispy Kreme/g
s/Walmart/Home Depot/g
s/Walmart/Lowe's/g
s/Walmart/etc..
What I don't get is people going after Walmart because they put local
business out but not the others?  Ok, Starbucks gets it too.
My hometown got a Walmart awhile ago.  Local people that work there get
paid more  better benes then at K-Mart up the street
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Re: Walmart.com sells Microtel PC with SuSE Linux software

2003-07-15 Thread Erik Price


Derek Martin wrote:

If walmart moves into a town predominated by little shops, and they
all can't compete with walmart (and rest assured they can't), then the
owners of those shops will have to close down, and go get jobs at
walmart.  Their incomes will likely be reduced by between 50 and 75
percent, and along with it their disposable incomes will be
drastically reduced, meaning they have almost no money to spend on
things besides basic necessities.
Ironically, the average price of goods is *not* less at Wal-Mart than at 
pre-existing stores.  I read an article on it a couple years ago -- 
Wal-Mart specifically marks down the goods that are sold at the local 
stores, in an attempt to put them out of business, since the chain-owned 
store can operate at a loss until those stores are gone.  Once they're 
gone, the new Wal-Mart then re-adjusts the prices, often to become even 
*higher* than they were originally, so the consumer just ends up getting 
the shaft.

Also, next time you walk through your local Wal-Mart, note how the 
amazing prices are all on the end-caps of the aisles and the 
attention-grabbing product stands in the middle of the main aisles. 
Once you get deep into the store, you'll find that the average price of 
a Wal-Mart item is not any better than the average price of an item at 
any other store.



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FW: Walmart.com sells Microtel PC with SuSE Linux software

2003-07-15 Thread Sharpe, Richard

OK so Wal-mart ain't that great of place but it is selling PC's with LINUX
on them and shows that LINUX has gone mainstream, which was the original
point of this thread.

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Subject: Re: Walmart.com sells Microtel PC with SuSE Linux software



Derek Martin wrote:

 If walmart moves into a town predominated by little shops, and they
 all can't compete with walmart (and rest assured they can't), then the
 owners of those shops will have to close down, and go get jobs at
 walmart.  Their incomes will likely be reduced by between 50 and 75
 percent, and along with it their disposable incomes will be
 drastically reduced, meaning they have almost no money to spend on
 things besides basic necessities.

Ironically, the average price of goods is *not* less at Wal-Mart than at 
pre-existing stores.  I read an article on it a couple years ago -- 
Wal-Mart specifically marks down the goods that are sold at the local 
stores, in an attempt to put them out of business, since the chain-owned 
store can operate at a loss until those stores are gone.  Once they're 
gone, the new Wal-Mart then re-adjusts the prices, often to become even 
*higher* than they were originally, so the consumer just ends up getting 
the shaft.

Also, next time you walk through your local Wal-Mart, note how the 
amazing prices are all on the end-caps of the aisles and the 
attention-grabbing product stands in the middle of the main aisles. 
Once you get deep into the store, you'll find that the average price of 
a Wal-Mart item is not any better than the average price of an item at 
any other store.



Erik

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Linksys Wireless-B media adapter

2003-07-15 Thread Jeff Macdonald
Has anybody heard any details about this product? I just downloaded
their user guide and it seems that it requires some sort of .NET
application on the PC that has the pictures/mp3s. Anybody know what
protocols it may be using?

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Graphics blips

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Komarinski
This is a real hard problem to describe, but it's really annoying. It
seems to happen with only HTML code that I write.

Take a look at http://www.wayga.org/~mkomarinski/julie.php

Take a look between the images, in the lower right hand corner outside the
border.

See a little blue dash?

I have a slightly more professional page I'm working on, but I'm getting
the dashes again.  Pictures of my daughter can have them (and I've switched
to the far superior gallery software anyway), but on anything else it
looks bad.

I see it under Mozilla and IE, and it occurs if I have BORDER set to 0 or not.

Any ideas?  This is a really hard thing to search for under google
annoying image bug gets me 66,300 hits.

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Re: Graphics blips

2003-07-15 Thread bscott
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, at 10:32pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Take a look at http://www.wayga.org/~mkomarinski/julie.php
 
 Take a look between the images, in the lower right hand corner outside the
 border.
 
 See a little blue dash?

  Your anchor tag (A HREF=...) contains both an image (IMG SRC=...) tag
and some text or whitespace.

  Wrap your anchor tightly around your image.  Do not include any whitespace
between the tags.

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Re: Graphics blips

2003-07-15 Thread Erik Price
On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 10:32  PM, Mark Komarinski wrote:

This is a real hard problem to describe, but it's really annoying. It
seems to happen with only HTML code that I write.
Take a look at http://www.wayga.org/~mkomarinski/julie.php

Take a look between the images, in the lower right hand corner outside 
the
border.

See a little blue dash?
It's an underline from the hyperlink (anchor tag) wrapping the image 
tag.  I'm not sure why it appears, but it might be due to the newline 
occurring within the anchor tag.  The easiest way to get rid of it is 
to define a simple style rule in your head section declaring that 
anchor tags should not have an underline:

head
  titleMark Komarinski's Pictures/title
  style type=text/css
a { text-decoration: none; }
  /style
/head
That should fix it (untested).



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