Re: Out of office
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Michael ODonnell wrote: Dan Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be out of the office starting 06/08/2006 and will not return until 06/12/2006. Uh, o. Could somebody maybe temporarily unsubscribe this guy if his email system is going to SPAM the list every time a message is posted? How is a vacation message spam? Annoying, yes: spam, no. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) The greatest of faults, I should say, is to be conscious of none. -Thomas Carlyle, writer (1795-1881) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Linux Wireless
Can anyone recommend a good wireless card for my laptop? It's an IBM A21m running Fedora Core release 3. I'm currently using a Lucent Technologies Orinoco Gold, but it's kinda bent since my laptop fell off the table and landed on edge on the card. I'd like something I can pickup instead of mailorder. Thanks! Tom -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) The people have spoken, the bastards. -Democrat Morris Udall, after losing one in a string of primaries ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
LinuxWorld Bostom
Could someone please pick me up a Fedora Core 5 DVD if they have any tmorrow? I was there today and I was told they won't be getting any disks in until tomorrow. I'll glady pay any postage if needed. The only downside to my dial-up connection is I can't do big downloads. Thanks in advance! Tom -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) There are only two industries that call their customers users, illegal drugs and computers. --Edward Tufte ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Linux Books and Software
Just an update: I'll be bringing all the books and software to the next CentraLUG meeting. After that, I will post a list of what's left for whoever wants it. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. -- Plato ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Linux Books and Software
I am cleaning my office and need to clear out a variety of software and books. I hate throwing this stuff away, so I thought I might pass it on here or at least get ideas where else I might send it. If nothing else, I'm sure the library will take some of it. Software: - Applixware 6.0 Office for Linux - Caldera systems Linux Technology Preview - Debian GNU/Linux ©1999(including Learning Debian GNU/Linux) - Mandrake Linux 6.0 Deluxe - Mandrake Linux 7.1 - Mandrake Linux 8.1 Power Pack Edition - RedHat Linux 5.1 - RedHat Linux 6.0 Extra - RedHat Linux 6.1 - RedHat Linux 6.1 Deluxe - RedHat Linux 6.2 Deluxe - RedHat Linux 7 - RedHat Linux 7 Deluxe - RedHat Linux 7.1 Deluxe - RedHat Linux 7.2 Professional - RedHat Linux 8.0 Professional - RedHat Linux 9 - StarOffice 6.0 - TurboLinux 6.0 Workstation - WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux Books (* = CD Included): [Author - Title - Publisher] Hein, Jochen - Linux Companion for System Administrators - Addison Wesley - ©1999 Hein, Jochen - Linux Companion for System Administrators 2d Edition - Addison Wesley - ©2001 Lathrop, John P. - Linux in Small Business: A Practical Users Guide - Apress - ©2002 Pritchard, Kara J. - Exam Cram RHCE Exam RH 302 - Coriolis - ©1999 Tsuji and Watanabe - Setting Up A Linux Intranet Server - CoriolisOpen Press - ©2000 McKinnon and McKinnon - Installing and Administering Linux - Gearhead Press - ©2000 McKinnon and McKinnon - Customizing and Upgrading Linux - Gearhead Press - ©2000 Bellomo, Michael - Linux Administration for Dummies* - IDG Books - ©1999 Goerzen, John - Linux Programming Bible - IDG Books - ©2000 Griffith, Arthur - Gnome/GTK+ Programming Bible* - IDG Books - ©2000 Kabir, Mohammed J. - RedHat Linux Administrators Handbook - IDG Books - ©2000 Carling, Degler, and Dennis - Linux System Adminstration - New Riders - ©2000 Northcutt, Cooper, Fearnow, and Fredrick - Intrusion Signatures and Analysis - New Riders - ©2001 Ziegler, Robert L. - Linux Firewalls - New Riders - ©2000 Ziegler, Robert L. - Linux Firewalls 2d Edition - New Riders - ©2002 Hall, John R. and Loki Software Inc. - Programming Linux Games - No Starch Press - ©2001 Siever, Ellen - Linux In A Nutshell 2d Edition - O'Reilly - ©1997 Egan, Dave - Red Hat Certified Engineer Linux Study Guide* - Osborne - ©2000 Hatch, Lee, and Kurtz - Hacking Linux Exposed - Osborne - ©2001 Petersen, Richard - Linux Programming Reference 2d Edition - Osborne - ©2000 Hammel, Michael J. - Essential GIMP for Web Professionals - Prentice Hall - ©2001 Mann and Mitchell - Linux System Security - Prentice Hall - ©2000 McCune, Mike - Integrating Linux and Windows - Prentice Hall - ©2001 Toxen, Bob - Real World Linux Security - Prentice Hall - ©2001 Collins, Mark Nurgle - Linux Game Programming* - Prima Tech - ©2001 Martinez, Theresa Hadden - LPIC Prep Kit Exam 101 - QUE - ©2000 Wall, Kurt - Linux Programming by Example - QUE - ©2000 Anonymous - Maximum Linux Security* - SAMS Press - ©2000 Ball, Bill - Teach Yourself Linux in 24 Hours* - SAMS Press - ©1998 Castro Lopo, Aitken, and Jones - Teach Yourself C for Linux Programming - SAMS Press - ©2000 Martin, Donna - Teach Yourself GTK+ Programming in 21 Days - SAMS Press - ©2000 Purcell, J. - Linux Complete Command Reference* - SAMS Press - ©1997 Zhang and Gay - Linux Programming, Complete Learning Edition*+ - SAMS Press - ©1997 and 1999 Hammel, Michael J. - The Artists Guide to the GIMP* - SSC - ©1999 Hunt, Craig - Linux Network Servers - Sybex - ©1999 Hunt, Craig - Linux DNS Server Administration - Sybex - ©2000 Taylor, Grant - Linux Complete - Sybex - ©1999 Lin, Norman - Linux 3D Graphics Programming* - Wordware - ©2001 + includes Teach Yourself C in 24 Hours ©1997 an Teach Yourself Linux Programming in 24 Hours ©1999 I also have a 2003 Ford Focus for sale, but that's not really Linux related. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build bridges even when there are no rivers. --Nikita Khruschev ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Notebook Network Issues
OK, I still don't know what the problem is. The FA510 worked in RedHat 6.2, and 8.0 but just won't work in Fedora Core 3. I downloaded the PCMCIA package update (to a different computer) and used a disk to get it to the notebook. Once I upgrade PCMCIA, I tried again. Still got nothing (although the error when restarting pcmcia went away). So I tried an FA410 instead of the 510, and it worked. So that's what I'm going to use. Thanks for everyones help! No I just need to figure out if I can use the winmodem (LT Win Modem - HSM0a19) -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates. --Jay Leno ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Notebook Network Issues
Ben said: Boot the machine with the card removed. Check the logs and/or dmesg for problems with PCMCIA. 'dmesg | grep -i pcmcia' came back empty So I tried restarting PCMCIA: /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart hutting down PCMCIA services: done. Starting PCMCIA services: cardmgr [2579]: open_sock(socket 2) failed: bad file descriptor cardmger [2579]: watching 2 sockets done. When I instered the card i saw: PCI: Enabling device :05:00.0 ( - 0003) lsmod before and after only showed one change: yenta_socket changed from 'Used by 0' to 'Used by 1' /etc/modprobe.conf says: alias eth0 tulip but trying 'insmod eth0' returns insmod: can't read 'eth0': no such file or directory and trying 'insmod tulip' returns insmod: can't read 'tulip': no such file or directory My routing tables look good, the firewall has been flushed, and I still can't ping even inside the network. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) -Give a man a fish he's fed for a day. Teach him to fish he'll spend all day drinking beer getting sunburned. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Notebook Network Issues
I have an old Acer Extensa 368D notebook computer I want to use as my router. I installed Fedora Core 3 and everthing went fine. Or so it seemed ... The network *says* it's running, but I can't get out! The card is a Netgear FA510 Restarting the PCMCIA gives me: Shutting down PCMCIA services: ERROR: Module ds is in use by pcnet_cs ERROR: Module pcmcia_core is in use by yenta_socket,pcnet_cs,ds done. Starting PCMCIA services: cardmgr[2955]: open_sock(socket 2) failed: Bad file descriptor cardmgr[2955]: watching 2 sockets done. This card worked fine when the laptop was running RedHat 6.2 How do I fix that? -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacitus, 56-120 A.D. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Carn1v0re?
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Fred wrote: What I am really concerned about is some ganster agency using a blanket sniffing technology like Carn1v0re, for instance, to do a broad sweep of packet gathering so they can sift through it later. I just wanna know, why didn't you just say Carnivore? -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) Are these morons getting dumber or just louder? -Mayor Joe Quimby ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Andrew W. Gaunt wrote: BTW - If a ticket were to be issued based on EZ pass data how would it proved absolutely that the person who owns the EZ pass was the person driving whatever vehicle was going over the speed limit.Perhaps there are more than one dirver, perhaps the car or pass is being loaned out to a friend. Your car should be your responsibility. If your friend can't drive resposibly, perhaps he shouldn't be driving your car. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President (1858-1919) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Bill McGonigle wrote: On Oct 26, 2005, at 16:13, Thomas M. Albright wrote: Your car should be your responsibility. If your friend can't drive resposibly, perhaps he shouldn't be driving your car. Same standard for my gun? Well ... yeah. In fact cars kill many more people each year than guns. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) I finally just let my bitter cynic (a relative of the morbid kind) beat my hopeless romantic to death ... it's just easier that way. -- Herbert Nowell ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Andrew W. Gaunt wrote: That view is simplistic and does not address the more complicated realities, however. KISS Are rental car companies responsible for the speeding violations of those renting? No; note the difference between renting and borrowing. You are paying to use the car. Your name is in the records as the current user of the car. If the car is used to break the law, you are responsible. Are employers responsible for speeding violations of employees when driving company owned vehicles? See the above answer. It's all in the paperwork. Are parents responsible for speeding violations of their children when the kids borrow the car from Mom or Dad? They should be. Parents should always be held accountable for the actions of their minor children. I can say that: I am a parent. If I don't teach my kid properly, so he doesn't know right from wrong, that should be put on me as much, if not more, than him. Are you responsible for the speeding violations or any other stupid or accidental thing your freind might get involved with when borrowing your car? Yes. That's why I don't let just anybody borrow my car. It's not the car, it's the driver; ergo my question. It's your car, it's your problem; ergo my answer. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) You can always tell the people that are forging the new frontier. They're the ones with arrows sticking out of their backs. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Bill McGonigle wrote: On Oct 26, 2005, at 19:12, Thomas M. Albright wrote: Well ... yeah. In fact cars kill many more people each year than guns. So if I leant a pistol to a friend (who was duly licensed) to go shoot at the range and he went and shot up a [insert harmless segment of society] you'd want me on trial for murder 1? No, simple negligent homicide. If you can prove to a jury that you were sure he was a safe gun user then you'll walk. If you let your friend borrow your gun just because he's got a license, you're being negligent. Glad you're not a judge. Neither a borrower nor a lender be. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) If there really is a God who created the entire universe with all of its glories, and he decides to deliver a message to humanity, he will NOT use as his messenger a person on cable TV with a bad hairstyle or in some cases, really bad make-up too. -- Source: Dave Barry turns 50 ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, bryan wrote: Under this logic, if someone steals my car, then, since there's no paperwork I'm responsible for what the thief does with it. A police report is paperwork. and if I'm not, then why am I responsible when someone borrows it ? If I create a written document that they sign before they borrow it, am I then not responsible because of that paperwork? who decides what paperwork is acceptable and what is not? what if they borrow the car without my knowledge or permission ? That's theft. File a police report. If I borrow an axe from you, and there's no paperwork saying such, and then use it to hack my wife to death are you then responsible ? Can I borrow an axe? No. I don't lend things to people unless I know they know how to use them and I know what it'll be used for. tada! My ass is covered. No one but me uses my gun unless I'm right there to supervise. No one but me uses my car at all. Why is that such a difficult concept? Oh, and please don't top-post. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) Drama is life with the dull bits cut out. -Alfred Hitchcock (1899-1980) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th
How about just boycotting Wal*Mart altogether? I haven't been to a Wal*Mart in (I think) 8 years. HP is not the problem. On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Randy Edwards wrote: On Nov. 5th there's going to be a protest at the Bedford Wal-Mart, 3:00 PM to 4:30 PM, against HP's printers being sold with RFID chips. For more information: http://www.nhcaspian.org/. Regards, . Randy -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) The Irish are not in a conspiracy to cheat the world by false representations of the merits of their countrymen. No, Sir; the Irish are a fair people; -- they never speak well of one another. -- Samuel Johnson. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
wireless question
I have an IBM A21m ThinkPad running Fedora Core 2. I have a Proxim/Orinoco Gold 802.11b Wireless card It works just grand in windows, but I jucat can't seem to get Linux to see it. My wireless.opts file is: *,*,*,00:60:1D:*|*,*,*,00:20:2D:*) INFO= ESSID= MODE= KEY= ;; conig.opts: module orinoco_cs opts network_name=My\ Network network.opts: *,*,*,*) BOOTP=no IPADDR=192.168.0.130 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=192.168.0.1 ;; -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) Cthulhu for President. Why vote for a lesser evil? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: wireless question
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Thomas M. Albright wrote: I have an IBM A21m ThinkPad running Fedora Core 2. I have a Proxim/Orinoco Gold 802.11b Wireless card It works just grand in windows, but I jucat can't seem to get Linux to see it. Found the problem. It's an 8420-WD, which is unsupported in Linux. So, nevermind. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) Rudeness is a weak man's imitation of strength. - Eric Hoffer (1902-1983) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Wireless Card for Sale
I have an Orinoco Gold 802.11b PC-Card (Manufacturer Part # 8420-WD) I found out the hard way that it is not linux compatible. I'd like to get $45 for it. Or trade for an linux-compatible one. :) -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom. -Dwight D. Eisenhower, U.S. general and 34th president (1890-1969) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: inetd help
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Bill McGonigle wrote: On Jun 1, 2005, at 20:46, TARogue wrote: Jun 1 19:09:38 gore inetd[467]: pid 21168: exit status 1 That means one of the processes inetd launched exited with a bad status. In this case, inetd is process # 467 and the process that caused the error was 21168. As Kevin mentioned it would be helpful to know what process 21168 was. Ah! OK, I thought inetd was pid 21168 and kept restarting, but it was an ftp connection that timed out. Thanks everyone! Now to contact the user involved and find out why this person kept making ftp connections and letting them time out ... -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. -- Thomas Jefferson ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Computer Upgrade Question
OK, I bought a new computer. However, rather than redownload/reinstall/reconfigure everything I just moved in my old harddrive. here's where it grows curiouser and curiouser. Th new computer has a SATA harddrive I want to keep for data storage, etc. It's currently the primary hard drive at SATA1, the CDROM at IDE1. I moved the new drive to SATA2, switched the CDROM to IDE2, and plugged my old harddive in at IDE1. Now, before I plug-in and turn-on this system, will my movements work? Will my old harddrive be the new primary harddrive, or will it cause all kinds of horrible problems? Thanks for any insight. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) Ships that pass in the night and speak each other in passing; Only a signal shown and a distant voice in the darkness; So on the ocean of life we pass and speak one another, Only a look and a voice; then darkness again and a silence. -Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, poet (1807-1882) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: FSF looking for Sys Admin
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Mark Komarinski wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 06:34:27AM -0500, Fred wrote: Another negative is that it is in Massachusetts, and on top of the low salary you get to pay in mass taxes that of which you receive no material benefit from (unless you live in Mass, in which case you have my sympathies. :-)). If you want to see taxes, move to NY. My brother lives in a house valued about 1/2 of mine, pays three times the property taxes I do plus a separate school tax. Then there's the 8.25% sales tax and the income tax. And that's upstate NY. It's worse in NYC. I'm actually planning ot move to Upstate NY hopefully next summer. (We've been looking, but we won't move in the winter.) We currently live on 62 acres in Northwood, NH. We paid 300+K for what we have. In upstate NY we can get twice the land + more house outbuildings for half what we paid for our current place. And property taxes will be significantly lower as well. Even adding in sales and income taxes, we will still end up paying less to live in NY that we're paying to live in NH. Given: most of the taxeas paid outside of the City are used to finance City programs. That sucks, but it's the price you pay. There is a web site that does a cost-of-living analysis between different areas, but I don't remember where it is. (Or it may just show the TCL of a variety of different places, I'm not sure which.) Taxachusetts indeed. Yep. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) I do not believe that they are like the Scots or the Welsh and doubt that they ever will be. The real British interest would I think be served best by pushing them towards a United Ireland rather than tying them closer to the United Kingdom. Our own parliamentary history is one long story of trouble with Ireland. -- Sir Alex Douglas-Hume (13 March 1972) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: FSF looking for Sys Admin
One quick follow-up: do you mean Upstate NY (W. of Albany) or Downstate (E. of Albany, not the City)? Having grown up in Rochester, NY, I get a bit uppity hearing people from Eastern NY saying they're Upstate just beacause they don't live in the City. Yeah, I'm biased. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers. -Richard Feynman, physicist, Nobel laureate (1918-1988) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Why Intuit should have an Open Source version of QuickBooks...
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/11/05/HNsmboffice_1.html So why should Intuit have an Open Source version of QuickBooks? Because Microsoft is doing it? I think he means a Linux version. Closed source would be fine if it ran natively. (NOTE: I am a Linux enthusiast, not necessarily a FOSS zealot.) -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom. -Dwight D. Eisenhower, U.S. general and 34th president (1890-1969) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Bookstores [Was: Re: Going OT [Was: Re: Replacing PBXes with Open Source]]
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Ted Roche wrote: snip We live in interesting times! Isn't that a Chinese curse? May you live in interesting times. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) We understand death for the first time when he puts his hand upon one whom we love. -Madame De Stael, writer (1766-1817) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: GNHLUG Nashua meeting, next Wed., May 26, Marthas
On Fri, 21 May 2004, Rob Lembree wrote: What: Introduction to Fedora Who: Justin Seiferth Where: Martha's Exchange, Nashua, NH, second floor Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 Time: Presentation at 7:30 PM; dinner starts around 6:00 PM Justin Seiferth will present an introduction and overview of the Fedora Distribution. Core 1, Core 2, or just Fedora in general? -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. -Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel laureate (1879-1955) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Problem
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Travis Roy wrote: Mark Komarinski wrote: I'm not sure if this is MA wide (I forget what other towns did) but my town has scantron-ish forms that you may remember from the SAT. Get the paper ballot, fill in the ovals with a marker, run it through the scanner on the way out and the ballot goes into a vault. No idea if the scanner makes sure the ballot is valid, given that I fill it out properly each time. I think. That was kind of my point. How do you know those things are not flawed in some way, or fixed? How do you know if it counted your vote correctly? Forget about new fangled computers, I'm talking about exsisting systems. What if something happened and it switches Dems for Reps or something like that.. Unless a recount is demanded we would really never know. That's kinda the poit though: With a paper trail there *can be* a recount. With a computer-only system, all the data would be corrupt. Personally, I would not feel secure without that safety net. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against its government. -Edward Abbey, naturalist and author (1927-1989) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Meeting times and locations (was: How 'bout them Linux ...)
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, at 9:20am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The location and/or time of the meeting can be a detriment. That's why you'll never see me at Martha's. Elaborate, please. Is it the geographical locale, the general atmosphere, or the schedule? I live on a farm in Northwood. The quarterly meetings are Wednesdays at 7pm in Nashua. An hour drive (+/-) each way means leaving around 18.00 and getting back home around 22.00 if I don't socailaize. If I'm not going to socialize, why bother going? I have my day-job in Manchester, plus I have many farm chores. I can't afford to pay for help on the farm, so my free time is really at a premium. I almost never go to the CentralLUG meetings in the Concord area (even though it's much closer) because it's a week-night. Do I expect the LUG schedules to be changed to suit me? Of course not. I am one person with (arguably) very different circumstances. I'm just saying that if the meetings were held week-end afternoons instead of weekday nights, I would be much more likely to attend. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) The instructions said to use Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Laptop Speakewr Problem
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, at 9:55am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure why, but I no longer havce sound on my laptop in Linux. I started typing up an elaborate message about investigating sound hardware, but then it occurred to me that it might be something a lot simpler. Run aumix. Are any of your levels set to 0? If so, does changing them to a non-zero value help? Yes, and no. Pcm, Spkr, and Mic were at 0, everything else was at 100. Putting the 3 up to 100 didn't help. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) Whether or not Freud was right when he muttered in exasperation that the Irish were the only people who could not be helped by psychoanalysis, there can be no doubt of one thing: the Irish will never change. --Thomas Cahill ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Laptop Speakewr Problem
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, at 9:39am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started typing up an elaborate message about investigating sound hardware, but then it occurred to me that it might be something a lot simpler. Run aumix. Are any of your levels set to 0? If so, does changing them to a non-zero value help? Yes, and no. Pcm, Spkr, and Mic were at 0, everything else was at 100. Putting the 3 up to 100 didn't help. Well, PCM is the usual audio out device, so that could have been part of the problem. If you exit and re-enter aumix, do the new settings stick? (We want to make sure nothing else is messing with them.) I rebooted, and they stuck, so I guess that was it. Yay!!! Thanks! -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers. -Richard Feynman, physicist, Nobel laureate (1918-1988) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: [ON Topic] How 'bout them Linux? Ain't they somethin?!
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Jon maddog Hall wrote: What do you look for in GNHLUG? Advice and assistance with linux. (Like fixing the sound on my laptop.) What brings you to a meeting? Either a good topic or a good speaker. (Like fixing the sound on my laptop.) What drives you away from a meeting? The location and/or time of the meeting can be a detriment. That's why you'll never see me at Martha's. If the big (quarterly?) meetings were held on a weekend, during the day rather than at night on a weekday I might actually show up. What would it take to get you to bring new members to a meeting? Nothing really. Usually I point them at the list. Would you be willing to volunteer for helping to pull off some activity? Depends ... who would be interested in setting up wireless and remote access to a farm and it's outbuildings (barns/sheds/etc.)? Would you be willing to spend a Saturday once or twice a year in staffing some project? Could you get your neighbor to do it? See above, and you can ask Bruce Dawson as well. If so, do you have any activities that you would especially like to do? Particularly ones that you would be willing to participate in? Again, see above. Finally, after thirty-five years in the computer business it took a kid from Finland to remind me that I got into this space to have FUNso what things would you like to do that would be FUN? Also finally, see above. :) The wireless remote monitoring of the animals and the shelters isn't necessary, it'd just be neat. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) We understand death for the first time when he puts his hand upon one whom we love. -Madame De Stael, writer (1766-1817) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Laptop Speakewr Problem
I'm not sure why, but I no longer havce sound on my laptop in Linux. I used to have sound. I still have sound when I boot into XP. The only lines relevent in /var/log/messages (that I find) are: kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:05.0 kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:02.0 kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0 kernel: Crystal 4280/46xx + AC97 Audio, version 1.28.32, 11:55:45 Aug 18 2003 kernel: cs46xx: Card found at 0xf410 and 0xf400, IRQ 11 kernel: cs46xx: Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20 (1014:0153) at 0xf410/0xf400, IRQ 11 kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: CRY20 (Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev B) modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 Other lines referncing sound are: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 I can't think of any updates I may've done that would've messed with my sound. Any ideas? Addition information: # cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike) # uname -a Linux littlefear 2.4.20-20.9 #1 Mon Aug 18 11:45:58 EDT 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux # modprobe -r cs46xx cs46xx: Device or resource busy # modprobe -d cs46xx = Module ac97_codec kname ac97_codec objkey ac97_codec names: ac97_codec mode: NORMAL Module matching ac97_codec: /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o = = Module soundcore kname soundcore objkey soundcore names: soundcore mode: NORMAL Module matching soundcore: /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o = = Module cs46xx kname cs46xx objkey cs46xx names: cs46xx mode: NORMAL Module matching cs46xx: /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/kernel/drivers/sound/cs46xx.o = -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) There is no right to fair use. -- Preston Padden, head of government relations for Walt Disney Corp. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Laptop Speakewr Problem
I'm not sure why, but I no longer havce sound on my laptop in Linux. I used to have sound. I still have sound when I boot into XP. The only lines relevent in /var/log/messages (that I find) are: kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:05.0 kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:02.0 kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0 kernel: Crystal 4280/46xx + AC97 Audio, version 1.28.32, 11:55:45 Aug 18 2003 kernel: cs46xx: Card found at 0xf410 and 0xf400, IRQ 11 kernel: cs46xx: Thinkpad 600X/A20/T20 (1014:0153) at 0xf410/0xf400, IRQ 11 kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: CRY20 (Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev B) modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 Other lines referncing sound are: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-1 modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-1-0 I can't think of any updates I may've done that would've messed with my sound. Any ideas? Addition information: # cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike) # uname -a Linux littlefear 2.4.20-20.9 #1 Mon Aug 18 11:45:58 EDT 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux # modprobe -r cs46xx cs46xx: Device or resource busy # modprobe -d cs46xx = Module ac97_codec kname ac97_codec objkey ac97_codec names: ac97_codec mode: NORMAL Module matching ac97_codec: /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o = = Module soundcore kname soundcore objkey soundcore names: soundcore mode: NORMAL Module matching soundcore: /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o = = Module cs46xx kname cs46xx objkey cs46xx names: cs46xx mode: NORMAL Module matching cs46xx: /lib/modules/2.4.20-20.9/kernel/drivers/sound/cs46xx.o = -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) There is no right to fair use. -- Preston Padden, head of government relations for Walt Disney Corp. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
mplayer help
mplayer works fine for me from the command line, but when I try using the GUI version, (gmplayer,) which is part of the mplayer installation, I get an error: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Any tips of how I can make this work? Thanks! Tom -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) He who would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. -Thomas Paine, philosopher and writer (1737-1809) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
adm and address blocking
I find amusing that the adm account on this machine has a mailbox full of spam. Amusing tho it may be, how can I stop it from happening? Additionally, i've been getting attacked from ipt.aol.com. They own the address range from 172.128.0.0 - 172.211.255.255 What would be the netmask to block a range like that? 172.128.0.0/8 would block the entire class B, right? Thanking you in advance, Your friend, Tom Albright -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) I do not believe that they are like the Scots or the Welsh and doubt that they ever will be. The real British interest would I think be served best by pushing them towards a United Ireland rather than tying them closer to the United Kingdom. Our own parliamentary history is one long story of trouble with Ireland. -- Sir Alex Douglas-Hume (13 March 1972) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
RE: adm and address blocking
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Travis Roy wrote: I find amusing that the adm account on this machine has a mailbox full of spam. Amusing tho it may be, how can I stop it from happening? You can use some kind of spam blocking software. Anything from spamassassin to a white-list style. What if I chmod /var/spool/mail/adm to ? Additionally, i've been getting attacked from ipt.aol.com. They own the address range from 172.128.0.0 - 172.211.255.255 What would be the netmask to block a range like that? 172.128.0.0/8 would block the entire class B, right? While blocking a whole range is what a lot of people I know do, I wouldn't, even more so if it's AOL. Eventually you will know somebody that uses AOL, or if you have users on your system they will know somebody that uses AOL. This isn't about spam, this is attacks trying to break in. (Usually through port 1080.) Nor is this going to block all (or even most) of aol. This is just to keep *.ipt.aol.com away from me. Note: just ipt, not mx or any other aol thing. Spam I can filter, attacks I just kill. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers. -Richard Feynman, physicist, Nobel laureate (1918-1988) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
ogg2mp3?
Is there such an app? I'm going on a road-trip and I have an mp3 player. Unfortunately, all of my ripped music is in .ogg format. Is there a better way than re-ripping everything? Thanks! -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) We shall never conquer Ireland while the Bards are there. --Elizabeth I of England. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Walmart.com sells Microtel PC with SuSE Linux software
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Andrew W. Gaunt wrote: Perhaps Walmart will sue SCO into oblivion and clear up the mess being made. They've got the financial resources to do it. Excpet that WalMart is a worse monster than SCO. SCO sues individual companies. WalMart sued the state of Vermont when the state said no to the giant moving in. They're not the Caring, Community Store they want you to belive, any more than SCO is UNIX. - __ | 0|___||. Andrew Gaunt *nix Sys. Admin,, etc. Lucent Technologies _| _| : : } [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www-cde.mv.lucent.com/~quantum -(O)-==-o\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.gaunt.org Sharpe, Richard wrote: Good for SuSE!! http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/07/14/HNwalmartsuse_1.html Richard A Sharpe Database Analyst and Administration (DBA) Sqlserver/DB2 Amherst Technologies 40 Continental Blvd Merrimack, NH 03054 PHONE ...(603) 579-6180 / (800) 431-8031 Cell phone ..(603) 320-7785 FAX ...(603) 578-1072 EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Webpage ...www.amherst1.com Tenemos que tener fe (We must have faith ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) Marriage is the only adventure open to the cowardly. -Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Audio CD Creating
On Wed, 28 May 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:53:20 EDT Thomas M. Albright said: Can anyone tell me of a good program that i can give a list of files to and it will make a music cd out of? Are the .ogg files individual songs, or are they small clips of a larger live recording? The reason I ask is that with a live recording, the standard 2 sec spacer between songs is rather annoying, but with non-live stuff, it's rather normal and unnoticable. They're all individual songs. If it's live stuff, then I recommend 'gcdmaster' which is a graphical front-end to cdrdao. If it's not live stuff, then try 'cdrecord', which is a command-line program and can be invoked as such: cdrecord options dev=device track options [track1...trackN] I've often done things like: cdrecord dev=/dev/scd1 -speed=8 `grep -v \# file.txt` But how does cdrecord convert the .ogg file into a cdda 'file'? I want to be able to play this in a regular cd player. Or something like that in order to make mix CDs. HTH, Somewhat, thanks. :) -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) I do not believe that they are like the Scots or the Welsh and doubt that they ever will be. The real British interest would I think be served best by pushing them towards a United Ireland rather than tying them closer to the United Kingdom. Our own parliamentary history is one long story of trouble with Ireland. -- Sir Alex Douglas-Hume (13 March 1972) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Audio CD Creating
On Wed, 28 May 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't use GUI tools for this sort of thing, and it seemed that was desired, so I didn't respond to the OP. But, if command-line tools will do, the general form will be something like this: CLI is just fine. ogg123 -d wav -f song1.wav song1.ogg ogg123 -d wav -f song2.wav song2.ogg cdrecord -audio song1.wav song2.wav OK, but I have 39 songs I want to handle ... This looks like a job for Shell Scripting! (Dum de DUM) Thanks again! -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers. -Richard Feynman, physicist, Nobel laureate (1918-1988) ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: AOL now rejecting mail from Comcast residential IPs.
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Derek Martin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:26:11PM -0500, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: Last time I checked, Comcast's business rate is more than twice their residential rate yet still suffers from the same no server restrictions - they force you to use their SMTP and web servers, and still won't provide static IP addresses. So that's not a viable option for small organizations that want to preserve their network identity. This is probably true. Most likely, there are underlying motives that are far less altruistic. However, their TOS *DOES* state that no servers are allowed. So, if someone is running a server in violation of their ISP's TOS, and someone like AOL wants to block it, then it is well withing their right. Well, it's well within AOL's right to block whatever they want, but /my/ TOS agreement is between me and my provider. Not AOL. My TOS is none of their [EMAIL PROTECTED] business. But *your* ISP says no servers. AOL, knowing that, is blocking anything from your ISP that is not an approved IP address. You are violating your ISP's TOS, so AOL is blocking you. -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) As you and I both know, the software may be free, but the beer isn't. --Jon maddog Hall ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Benson, NH, and open source (fwd)
Here's a thought ... -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 11:56:29 -0500 (EST) From: David R. Dick To: Thomas M. Albright Subject: Benson, NH, and open source Now that Benson is talking about the state's computer systems (27 different ones) and the need to integrate and otherwise fix them, there is a unique opportunity for open source. I just don't know if there is enough gumption around to even begin that battle. I don't know if you read slash-dot, but every now and then there are encouraging reports about government and open source, e.g., http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/12/04/2346215.shtml?tid=19 -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) There is no right to fair use. -- Preston Padden, head of government relations for Walt Disney Corp. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Update Hell
I just updated the kernel on my (Red Hat 6.2) laptop. The only kernel packages needing updating were kernel, kernel-pcmcia-cs, and kernel-utils. I did them, rewrote lilo, reran lilo, then rebooted. Now pcmcia won't start. Argh! Can anyone help? This is what is being reported when I try to start pcmcia: Starting PCMCIA services: modules/lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o: unresolved symbol request_mem_region /lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o: unresolved symbol release_mem_region /lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol pci_set_power_state /lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol pci_enable_device /lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol unregister_ss_entry /lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol pci_irq_mask /lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol register_ss_entry /lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/i82365.o: unresolved symbol CardServices /lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/ds.o: unresolved symbol proc_pccard /lib/modules/2.2.22-6.2.2/pcmcia/ds.o: unresolved symbol CardServices cardmgr -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) You can always tell a Texan, but you can't tell him much. - Chris Wall ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Update Hell
I need to make a few points, I guess. kernel-2.2.22 may be an old kernel, but 2.2.22-6.2.2 is the latest patched version of the kernel. If not for the local exploit, I'd happily still be running 2.2.19-6.2.16 I never have, and God willing, I never will, build a kernel. If there is no rpm, then I hope I don't need it. 'make modules' and 'make modules install' won't work since my laptop is also my firewall/router and has pretty much nothing but the kernel, networking, pcmcia, and ipchains installed. (And of course the relevent dependencies.) Upgrading to a newer kernel/distribution is not a valid option either. I tried that at home, and I am now getting more error messages, and missing files, than I ever had before. [What the hell is libpthreads.so.0 (GLIBC_PRIVATE version)?] All I wanted to do was rpm -ivh new.kernel and reboot. I have since rebooted back into the old kernel, and now I'm having network problems. (I'm still troubleshooting, I may ask about them later.) Now that we all know my situation, that's for everyone's help up to now. :) -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) There is no right to fair use. -- Preston Padden, head of government relations for Walt Disney Corp. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: Update Hell
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please post the output of the following commands: rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-2.2.19-6.2.16 kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.19-6.2.16 kernel-2.2.22-6.2.2 kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.22-6.2.2 kernel-utils-2.2.22-6.2.2 uname -a Linux machine.tarogue.net 2.2.22-6.2.2 #1 Mon Ser 23 07:15:28 EDT 2002 i586 unknown -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) As you and I both know, the software may be free, but the beer isn't. --Jon maddog Hall ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: bash question
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:37:40 EDT Thomas M. Albright said: If the due date is greater than today, it outputs the message Due in x days. If the due date is less than today I get a message saying You are -x days past due. How can I convert the negative number into a positive one in bash? Well, assuming that 'x' is a variable which contains some whole number representing the number of days in which 'it' is due, a negative number representing an over-due 'it', then: abs_x=`echo '$x' | sed s/-//` ought to do it. Yay! Thanks! -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) You can always tell a Texan, but you can't tell him much. - Chris Wall ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: uname output ?
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, mike ledoux wrote: I'm curious; just how do you identify if a system is Debian or Red Hat? I've yet to find a reliable method. cat /etc/redhat-release. if it doesn't work, you're not using redhat. :) -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) When you have an efficient government, you have a dictatorship. -- Harry Truman ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
Re: uname output ?
On 17 Aug 2002, Paul Iadonisi wrote: snip Add to that the fact that Red Hat's latest beta, Limbo2 ... snip I tried to go look at, maybe download, the new beta but all I got were empty directories. I don't suppose you have some .iso's or maybe even actual cd's we (actually I) could borrow? :) P.S. - RedHat is LSB certified! Yay! http://www.freestandards.org/news.php?id=35 -- TARogue (Linux user number 234357) As you and I both know, the software may be free, but the beer isn't. --Jon maddog Hall ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss
