Re: content mgt for non-profits

[Jeffrey Creem]

I am pretty happy with geeklog (www.geeklog.com).

Once you get past the setup it can be 
used/maintained by fairly non-technical people.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jonathan 
  Linowes 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 10:38 
  AM
  Subject: content mgt for 
non-profits
  
  I would like suggestions for content managment 
  software or online services that meet the basic needs of your typical 
  nonprofit organization: calendar, events, announcements, feature articles, 
  easy to update by non technical people, etc Needs to be cheap if not 
  free.
  
  thanks
  
  jonathan
  

Re: VMWare Promotions

[Jeffrey Creem]

Yes. I signed up for that discount. They seemed to have gotten a little
confused. First I got an
email saying they could not confirm that I was a member of a LUG. Then I got
an email
confirming that I am now the president of the group and I am authorized to
approve others as being
members of the group... They seem a little confused.

As an added bonus, if you email us with the names and email
addresses of your user group members (with their permission, of
course), your LUG members will be eligible for a special $100 rebate on
purchases of VMware Workstation. 

I did not bother to correct them since I tried to explain in the first
request that I was just
a member of a local group via an email/web page.

In any case, if someone is interested let me know and I'll forward your
email and see if it really works.

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 4:28 PM
Subject: VMWare Promotions


 I noticed two promotions at VMWare that may be of interest: $100 off
 VMWare for any LUG member or a free copy for any educator.

 For LUG members: https://www.vmware.com/linuxuser/linuxuser_login.jsp
 For educators: https://www.vmware.com/academic/academic_login.jsp

 Note: I am in not associated with VMWare. Just happened to find these
 when looking for information.

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Re: (no subject)

[Jeffrey Creem]

 Another plus about Postgres is that it's a true OSS project.  I don't
 mean to slam MySQL, but there's been an awful lot of questionable buzz
 about MySQL's licensing changes lately (such as client libraries are
 GPL'd unless you want to pay for a non-GPL version).  I don't -think-
 it'd be a problem if you're using PHP for application delivery (because
 MySQL makes a lot of concessions to PHP [including a rumor that their
 stored procedure language scheduled for release 5.0 will use PHP
 syntax]), but the company is finally leveraging its investment in
 developing an open source database.  So, on the one hand, MySQL has
 looming licensing concerns but also the benefit of both open-source
 development and company support, so it might be attractive to a PHB.
 Whereas Postgres is wholly open source, client libraries are open
 source but not GPL, but there's no company standing behind the project
 either AFAIK.  (Though there are companies that will sell support for
 it.)


Not to start a flame war here but MySQL is certainly not doing anything
questionable here.
It is licensed under the GPL. So is Linux. So are a lot of other things.
Now, in addition to
the GPL license they have a license that allows you to do proprietary
development.  Sure the muddle
the waters a little by using words like commercial development license...
but read the terms..It is very clear
that this is simple a dual license for a GPL version and a proprietary
version.

Either one could be used for commercial development.
Either one could be used to make a database for aunt tilly.

But, if you are willing to have your application be licensed under the terms
of the GPL you
do not need to buy a license. (of course IANAL)  Note that the GPL does NOT
require you to make your source
code available for everyone. It does require you to provide your source code
to everyone
you provide your application to AND it means that you can not place
restrictions on who they
give it to.

If your product is good and your support is good, you can still make money.
Plenty of companies do. Not sure
how developers (and I am not saying  you are doing this) can bash people
like microsoft for being closed source, want to make use of someone elses
open source work, and then not want to allow their work to be open source.

For a specific example, we use a compiler at work where the cost for the
cross compiler is about $25k for 5 supported seats (and annual maintenance
after that...not sure how much).. It is a GPL compiler but we are happy
(ok...not happy..willing) to pay for it because the vendor continues to
provide value by providing excellent support and continuous product
improvements.


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Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell

[Jeffrey Creem]

- Original Message - 
From: Numberwhun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Question about installing Linux on a Dell


Ben,
Thanks for the reply.  I wasn't aware of Dell's linux site.  I must be 
brutally honest and say that I did not purchase this laptop with the 
intention of only having Linux on it.  If that were the case, I would have 
looked at compatibility.  Instead it fully meets my other needs and may be 
dual booted.

Again, thanks for the link!!
Happy holidays.
Jeff Kirkland

Instead of dual booting you could go the vmware route. It is (generally)
easier to setup on laptops (since you are dealing with virtualized 
hardware).
It makes it really easy to try multiple different Linux distros. Video speed 
could
be better but for everything else (including large compiles) the slowdown is 
not
really present.

I think you can get a $100 rebate on vmware as a member of a Linux users 
group. (Not sure if they
are still running it). I submitted one name for someone here on the group 
and I think they got their $100 discount.

Let me know if you are interested.
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Re: Make political discussion off-topic by rule (was: America ...)

[Jeffrey Creem]

- Original Message - 
From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greater NH Linux User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:54 PM
Subject: RFC: Make political discussion off-topic by rule (was: America ...)


 I hereby submit the following Request For Comment to the membership of
this list: Should we make political diatribes like this explicitly 
off-topic
on gnhlug-discuss?


I Agree. 

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Fedora Legacy

[Jeffrey Creem]

I am sure most people know about this already but since I just recently 
figured it out
I thought it was worth a post.

I have a Redhat 9 box I still run (family pictures, etc) that I really do 
not want to take the time to
upgrade to fedora or something new.

The fedora legacy project provides a yum compatible RPM updates/patches site 
for RH 9 and
higher (Higher being things liek FC1, FC2, etc).

It is really nice to just do a
yum update
to get your box updated with (most) of the latest security and other 
patches.

http://fedoralegacy.org/
Took about 20 minutes to get box configured to use site (had to update RPM 
and then manually
configure the yum package (supposedly a pre-configured yum install is due 
soon).
(http://fedoralegacy.org/docs/yum-rh9.php)

Also note that the have an apt style repository setup as well but I just 
went with yum because I had
used it more recently.


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Re: Any dialup ISP's besides EarthLink support LINUX

[Jeffrey Creem]

Richard A Sharpe wrote:
Hi
	Does anyone know of any ISP's that have local NH numbers, who support LINUX 
users or have away to connect with a LINUX client, so far Earth Link has been 
the only one I can find and I am using it right now.

Rich
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I'll second (or third I think) www.mv.com
If you are looking for a real dialup ISP (v.s. something to use every 
once in a while when away from your broadband) mv is a good choice. I 
used them for many years in the pre ADSL, Cable modem days.

They support Data over voice ISDN Channel bonding as well (or they did 
in the past) so if you are sticking with dialup because nothing else is 
available and (if you have the cash) you could get an ISDN line and at 
least get real 112 kbps (v.s fake 56kbps)

One other thought (again assuming the it is carrier issues and not cash) 
would to be to get either tmoble, verizon wireless or ATT/Cingular cell 
phone based internet access. It is (at times) faster than dialup and 
available everywhere. I use Verizon Wireless  as an add on to my Palm 
Treo. I don't rely on it as my primary internet approach (Yipes how can 
you live without 4Mbps ;) but it certainly works for quick googles, 
emails and downloads on the road.

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Re: Pieces parts.

[Jeffrey Creem]

Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:
Hey, everyone.  A friend of mine's looking for a reliable,
reasonably-priced place (one-line is fine) to buy computer parts (eg.,
drives, motherboards, etc.).  She's been seeing more and more places
that are, if not fly-by-night, at least bad on the customer service
standpoint.  Suggestions?
Thanks!
-Ken
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While I occasionally take chances with other vendors from time to time I 
have had really good luck with
newegg.com

They have been around for a long time and generally get pretty positive 
reviews and have prices that are usually within a few dollars of the 
cheapest that you can find.

If you are looking for a place you can walk into and are not 
interested in the big fish like CompUSA, I generally like showtime 
computers in Hudson and PC Depot in south nashua.

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Re: [Slight OT] - CD Lables

[Jeffrey Creem]

Travis Roy wrote:
I was thinking about picking up one of those CD Label kit things..
Does anybody have any recommendations.. any work out better for you 
then others?
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I would recommend that you don't. There are a pile of people who will 
swear they never have problems with labels. Some people have had a few 
failures here and there. I fall into the second category. I only had one 
failure (where a label started to lift up at the edge) but it was enough 
that I decided to abandon labels and go with an inkjet printer that can 
print directly onto printable CD's/DVD's.

It looks nicer and you never have to worry about the label lifting off.
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Re: [Slight OT] - CD Lables

[Jeffrey Creem]

Cole Tuininga wrote:
On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 09:20 -0400, Jeffrey Creem wrote:
 

I decided to abandon labels and go with an inkjet printer that can 
print directly onto printable CD's/DVD's.
   

What printer was it?  And more importantly, does it work with linux?
 

I have an *EPSON Stylus Photo 960 and it is supported by GIMP-Print.
Not sure if you can still buy this particular model anymore.  I think 
this one is almost 2 years old.

*
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Re: C or C++?

[Jeffrey Creem]

Bill McGonigle wrote:


On May 27, 2005, at 11:48, Jim Kuzdrall wrote:


The stipulations were: 1) use Linux; 2) use C++.



Sounds like they want well-debugged code.  99.99 % of the time the STL 
classes are better than ones you'd write on a 1-off basis, both in 
terms of being debugged and in terms of performance.  The Army doesn't 
want its tank being unable to target because of a bug in your String 
class.


1) Well debugged code is probably not the real reason behind the 
requirement. About 50% of the time when a gov't customer issues 
requirements like this it is because they think it is cool and they want 
to brag their their latest project is fully buzzword compliant. If they 
wanted solid code they would have stuck with Ada (or gone with Spark 
perhaps).


2) In the rest of the cases, the language and or OS direction is 
specified for hopes of some sort of forward thinking 
interoperability/upgradeability. This of course almost never works out 
because by the time the system is ready for a substantial upgrade some 
new cool OS, middleware or language is hot and a rule 1 kicks in causing 
all of the previously developed code to be discarded.

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Re: EFF Alert: 48 hours to stop the broadcast flag

[Jeffrey Creem]

Peter wrote:


Or, if you want to make sure you are heard (and this is obviously an
important topic for many), call:

NEW HAMPSHIRE Senator Judd Gregg (202) 224-3324

Sample script...use whatever portion necessary if you are talking to a
person. Don't forget your name and address if you live in NH!

 

Here is the one I sentSlightly modified from the EFF original 
(woops.. I guess I made a derivative work)


As a constituent, a taxpayer, a financial supporter and a proponent of 
innovation, I'm registering my opposition to any Broadcast Flag 
amendment introduced in the Senate Commerce, Justice, and Science 
Appropriations subcommittee mark-up on Tuesday, or in full committee on 
Thursday.


There are many reasons why I believe the Broadcast flag amendment is flawed.

The Broadcast Flag cripples any device capable of receiving over-the-air 
digital broadcasts. It makes digital TV hardware more expensive and less 
capable, impeding rather than accelerating the digital TV transition. 
Worse, it gives Hollywood movie studios a permanent veto over how 
members of the American public use our televisions and forces American 
innovators to beg the FCC for permission before adding new features to TV.


Article 1 section 8 of the US Constitution contains the following text 
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for 
limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their 
respective Writings and Discoveries.


I do not believe the broadcast flag technology currently contains 
automated means to ensure that when the limited time has expired that 
the broadcast materials would be sent in a manner that is consistent 
with the material being in the public domain. This amendment effectively 
provides for an automated means to enforce limited rights on one class 
of people (consumers) while providing no such automated means for 
enforcing the limited time clause on the producers of the material.


I fully support the rights of content producers to secure exclusive 
rights to their writings and discoveries. I do not support laws that 
mandate technological means for enforcement of these rights. For 
example, as a citizen, the U.S. constitution secures me the right of 
free speech however this does not extend to the grant me the right to 
use speech to commit fraud yet we do not (currently) have laws on the 
books to implant speech truth detectors in all citizens to ensure they 
do not abuse these rights.


Finally, you will note that the full text of Article 1 section 8 says 
that it is meant to apply to Science and useful arts. I think one would 
be hard pressed to convince me that the latest episode of “Fear Factor” 
really is a useful art….but I digress.


Don't give the FCC the power to issue government blueprints for future 
technological innovation.


Please oppose any attempts in the Senate appropriations committee that 
would disrupt technological innovation through the implementation of the 
Broadcast Flag.


Thank you for your attention,

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Re: Home Automation Question

[Jeffrey Creem]

Travis Roy wrote:

I've had some talkes with Brian (Karas) about this, but I wanted to 
open it up.


Hopefully (now that the seller finally signed the PS) I will soon be 
a home owner. I've messed with small (firecracker) X10 stuff but in an 
apartment it's kind of weird and not the best place to do it.


Anybody have any experience with this, specifically with Linux? We're 
mostly insterested in distribution of a stereo system, but light 
control, security, appliances, are all on the list of things to check 
out.


I looked at Mr. House (www.misterhouse.net) but that looks hugely 
complicated.

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I still use X10 stuff but went away from computer control a few years 
ago when my computer X-10 adapter started acting odd. (A few nights of 
the bedroom lights coming on in the middle of the night and it was time 
to pull the plug).
In the area of security if you are looking at cameras I really recommend 
www.zoneminder.com.
It is a very complete Linux package for Security camera management and 
it can interface to X10 products as well.

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Re: [OT] NH protest against HP printers with RFID chips Nov. 5th

[Jeffrey Creem]

By the way, combine device specific serial numbers in the printers tag 
(which they probably already do) and combine it with the fact that several 
vendors encode device specific data in all prints from the device and you 
really start to have something that can be abused...

Granted it is unclear how the rfid helps that much more than barcodes...but 
each of these little losses of privacy really do begin to add up.
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Re: Firefox security strategy

[Jeffrey Creem]

Ben Scott wrote:




 While I understand the sentiment very well, and indeed like and use
that quote myself, the pragmatic part of my personality wants to step
in and say, That's all very well and good, but I'd really like to be
able to read a newspaper without fear that the ads on the bottom are
going to steal my wallet when I'm not looking.  The needs of security
are sometimes opposed to the desire for cleverness.

 In other words, maybe we're better off without some of the
potentially clever things that could be done with
JavaScript/Java/whatever, if it yielded a safer web.
 



We already have (almost) something that lets you read a newspaper 
without some uber strong programming language
feature. It is called plain old HTML. Turn off all scripting and what 
you are left with is still pretty capable (or would be if

sites stopped requiring scripting for even basic navigation).

Of course it is not snazzy enough and thus we get all of these things 
like javascript and java.


Actually, javascript really is designed to be safe as well. It is not 
designed to allow for some of the things people have asserted on this 
thread.


It just so happens that all software is bad and the javascript 
interpreters are no exception.


Actually, considering there have even been exploits that have been 
caused by things as simple as displaying an image, I think we are all 
pretty much just hosed.





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Semi IT : Sparc Box - Somewhat old

[Jeffrey Creem]

I've got an Ultra 1 (ultasparc processor - sbus) box that I am ready to 
retire.
128 Megs of RAM, CD Reader. 9 Gig internal SCSI drive With Sun Keyboard 
and Mouse (can use standard VGA monitor - I've got the adapter).
(This is pizza box style). Boot Prom updated so it can run 64 bit 
solaris kernels.


Obviously not a powerhouse but if someone is interested I'd try to bring 
it to the next Nashua meeting.


I had been runing Solaris 8 on it but should work find with one of the 
various Sparc based linux distributions too.


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Re: Suggestions for capturing license plate info?

[Jeffrey Creem]

hewitt_tech wrote:

Unfortunately my car and my daughter and her husband's car have been 
vandalized by low life's who are shooting out windows with some kind of
pellet gun. They struck last night shortly after midnight shooting out 
3 windows. My car had it's rear driver side window shot out and my 
daughter's Toyota (fairly new) had the back window and driver's window 
shot out. The previous weekend my son-in-law had his rear window shot

out.



Sorry to hear about it.

I believe this vandalism is random because the night my son-in-law 
reported his window blown out the Manchester police said that there 
were reports of twenty other vehicles damaged in the surrounding area. 
Last night there weren't that many cars parked on the street but they 
only damaged our cars. I couldn't sleep last night so I setup a 
Linksys web cam that I have but I found almost immediately that the 
camera is not effective in low light situations. Worse, no streetside 
window in my house would give any kind of picture that could possibly 
show a license

plate. The images that I could get were pretty poor and when the camera
triggered due to motion, the passing vehicles were mostly a blur. I 
did find out that if you wanted to even see anything of a passing car you

needed to set the motion detected video segment to 5 seconds (the range
allowed with the LinkSys software is 2 thru 5 seconds).  I do have a 
2.4 ghz wireless black and white pin hole type camera that can be 
operated off a 9 volt battery. Since the people who are doing this 
damage are always driving West to East on our street in order to get a 
better shot at the cars, I was thinking about setting up the tiny 
wireless camera on the front dash of my Honda pointing in the 
direction of travel in hopes that I might pick up the rear plates of 
passing cars.


Another low tech approach I am considering is to wait up next Friday 
and Saturday night and simply wait a few doors down from my house with 
a very powerful light and a cheap disposable flash camera in hopes of 
catching the car's license plate should they decide to return. Of 
course if this is just random harassment, maybe I should just forget 
the whole thing. The police don't seem to be very effective as this 
vandalism has been going on in Manchester all over the city for some 
time.


A friend suggested picking up a night vision scope in hopes of 
capturing the license number.


Does anyone have any other suggestions?

-Alex



We had some fires in our neighboorhood last year (around this time). 
After the first one my wife asked me to setup some cameras. I've had 
about 7 going since then. There were more fires as I was adding cameras 
(could get them up fast enough!). I got some info on them but never 
enough to lead to a conviction.


If you are interested in going overboard (and at least having some geek 
level fun while getting at feeling that you are actually doing 
something) you could setup a box with www.zoneminder.com SW on it. I've 
got two Centos 4.x boxes running this with cameras that have built in 
night illumination capability.


You can pick up some 4 chip video capture cards off ebay relatively cheaply.

You want cameras with 1/3 CCDs to keep the noise down. You can get them 
with built in IR LED floodlights. The quality of the night vision can 
actually not all that bad. The tough part is finding good cameras. I'd 
point you to the ones I got last year but like all technology, things 
have moved on and I dont know if you can still find them.


The big problem with any of these security camera approaches is that it 
is very difficult to get something with the resolution to see a license 
plate. Especially at night.


If you do try one of your existing cameras, try driving your own car by 
at night at see how well it works.



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Re: Recommendations for C++ sourcecode analysis tools

[Jeffrey Creem]

Michael ODonnell wrote:


I've joined an established project and I'm trying to come up to
speed with their (complex!) C++ code and could use some help
in divining how all the pieces fit together.  I'm doing all the
usual WWW searches but also wanted to get recommendations from
the GNHLUG; anybody know of good sourcecode analysis tools for C++
that run on Linux?  We already have ctags and Cscope and though
they're occasionally (accidentally) useful they're basically
not up to the task of grokking all the class hierarchies and such.

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Try understand for C++ from scitools 
(http://scitools.com/products/understand/cpp/product.php) - though the 
website seems a bit messed up right now.

I believe it runs under Linux.


If you want something free, perhaps looking at doxygen.

Obviously eclipse with the CDT can be useful for some of the more simple 
tasks.


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Re: Question about GPL issue.

[Jeffrey Creem]

Steven W. Orr wrote:


I do pretty well here, so I thought I'd go to the well one more time.

I am sure that I read something somewhere (though I could be wrong) 
where RMS said that he happily took other people's code and 
essentially changed the names of the variables and slapped a GPL at 
the beginning of the file.


I would like to do the opposite. (I can't go into details, but please 
trust me when I say that there is no evil involved in this exercise.) 
I want to take a small module (yes I know that size doesn't *really* 
count) and swing it out of GPL using the same technique. Can anyone 
point me to where RMS said this? I do remember that it was a long time 
ago, maybe 10 years or so.


Whether he said it or not is not really relevant. This would be a pretty 
clear violation of copyright law both before and after the DCMA.


See http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html#howmuch as a good 
jumping off point.

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Re: COX blocking own users outbound email

[Jeffrey Creem]

Jeff Kinz wrote:


A few years ago there were heated discussion about whether or not ISP's
should be blocking SMTP traffic (port 25) from dynamically assigned IP
addresses.
 



Things have really gotten out of hand. Real messages trapped in spam 
filters, real spam getting through, port blocking of
legitmate useAnd the spam keeps coming.I don't know what the 
right answer is, but it is not the current path that we are on.


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Re: Motherboard Recommendations, and a hello...

[Jeffrey Creem]

Gary Kaufman wrote:


I'm starting to plan a new system for myself, probably
based on Intel Core 2 Duo.  I'm ready to attempt the
Linux-leap for myself as well.  I was wondering what
folks might recommend for motherboards.  I've had
great experiences with ASUS, but the reports I've seen
on the web for Ubuntu and the ASUS P5B Deluxe have
been mixed.  On-board graphics would be fine as my
needs are very modest.

Thanks for any thoughts!

- Gary

  


If you are willing to consider a full system you might want to consider 
an E6600 (Core 2 Duo) based machine from PCDepot in South Nashua


http://www.pcdepot.com/table/buspc_piii.htm

I got one in early January and it was a good price. I've had pretty good 
ASUS experiences before too but
had been interested in trying an intel based motherboard. The E6600 
machine at PCDepot is a an intel 975BXb2 which


XP Pro is included in the price. I did not ask if they would drop the 
price if  you left off XP Pro since I was going to use this to dual boot 
but it is probably worth asking.


I've built the last few of my home machines because 1) I wanted to 
configure them in ways that is hard to do with off the shelf stuff and 
2) If your home machine just works out of the box, what is the point :)


But then the last two machines I put together (for a server and a 
zoneminder server) I had gone with Dells because I could not come close 
to beating the price bulding my own.


The recent PCDepot experience went well, the price was good and the 
configuration was close enough to what I wanted in this case.



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Re: LaCie Ethernet Disk RAID

[Jeffrey Creem]

Christopher Schmidt wrote:

On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:58:01PM -0500, thinkliberty wrote:
  

I just got a LaCie Ethernet Disk RAID which runs Linux.

They even tell you that the OS is Linux in the product feature chart.

See:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10877

No where in the documentation (users manual, quick start guide, etc.. ) is a
copy of the GPL or even a mention of it.

I called their tech support line to see if they had a website or something
where I could download the source code or if they could mail it to me and
the tech support agent told me that I could not have it. That the OS is
proprietary!

How could a sane company use software in their product without agreeing or
understanding the License? If I owned any Lacie stock I would sell it.



Don't they only have to distribute the OS if they modify it? It may be
entirely Linux underneath, but with no modifications to the Kernel, 
running a proprietary distribution on top of that, which doesn't touch

the kernel. Although I don't think that gets them out from not including
the GPL, I think it would mean they don't need to give you the code so
long as they point to where they got it, no? 


Regards,
  
No. They must provide you with the source code even for the unmodified 
GPL components. They must also provide a copy of the GPL license itself.
Yes, they can run proprietary stuff on top of it and not give you 
that..But they are distributing binaries, they must distribute the 
source at the same time or provide a written offer to provide the source.


From the GPL --

*3.* You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, 
under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of 
Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:



   *a)* Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable
   source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1
   and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or, 


   *b)* Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
   years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost
   of physically performing source distribution, a complete
   machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
   distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
   customarily used for software interchange; or, 


   *c)* Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer
   to distribute corresponding source code. (This alternative is
   allowed only for noncommercial distribution and only if you received
   the program in object code or executable form with such an offer, in
   accord with Subsection b above.) 

The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for 
making modifications to it. For an executable work, complete source code 
means all the source code for all modules it contains, plus any 
associated interface definition files, plus the scripts used to control 
compilation and installation of the executable. However, as a special 
exception, the source code distributed need not include anything that is 
normally distributed (in either source or binary form) with the major 
components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the operating system on 
which the executable runs, unless that component itself accompanies the 
executable.


If distribution of executable or object code is made by offering access 
to copy from a designated place, then offering equivalent access to copy 
the source code from the same place counts as distribution of the source 
code, even though third parties are not compelled to copy the source 
along with the object code.


--


What is odd is they seem to understand this (at least a little) as they 
do have source for other GPL items available 
http://www.lacie.com/support/drivers/


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Re: [Discuss] Any miners?

[Jeffrey Creem]

More people mining does not push price down as the difficulty adjusts
(about every 2 weeks) automatically to keep the average rate of discovery
of a block at 10 minutes.

Also, GPU mining of bitcoin has not really  been possible for a couple of
years.

You need custom ASICS. Cloud mining can be done  the cloud provider needs
hardware designed to mine bitcoin...
Not just a really fast computer.



On Jun 18, 2017 5:38 PM, "David Johnson"  wrote:

>
> Recent article, however it doesn't get into the risks.  There is
> clearly capital investment needed if you're going to be somewhat
> serious about it.
>
> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/an-idiots-guide-
> to-building-an-ethereum-mining-rig
>
> If it's worth it depends on both electricity cost (which is highly
> variable by geo location worldwide), but also the payback of any
> hardware purchased.  If the currency falls in value before you've paid
> back your hardware investment after electricity cost you've lost money
> and potentially lots of it.
>
> My impression is the more people mine, the currency price will be
> pushed back down to find an equilibrium so there's lots of risk if
> you're making an investment.
>
> The alternative strategy would be to use cloud based GPU instances on
> demand when prices spike but not otherwise.  That way there is no
> capital investment.  Now if cloud based GPU instances ever would be
> cheap enough is a different question.
>
>
>
>
>
> Neil Schelly writes:
> > I have a coworker who makes money mining. His strategy is to mine for
> > the alternative currencies that are still comparatively easy to mine
> > than BitCoin. Whatever value he earns there gets exchanged for value
> > in BitCoin. From what I gather, he makes a decently steady side income
> > from it, though I haven't really probed for details. I suspect it's in
> > the range of a few thousand dollars a month profit.
> > -Neil
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Lloyd Kvam  wrote:
> > > Bitcoin did hit a peak value of $3,000 last week, so that would help
> the economics.
> > >
> > > My impression is that you need some edge in cost of bandwidth,
> electric power, or
> > > computer hardware for this to be an attractive business. Just tracking
> the blockchain
> > > can use enough resources to be annoying.
> > >
> > > An alternative approach would be to bet on bitcoins displacing gold:
> short gold and
> > > buy bitcoins. Of course that does not let you play with hardware.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 18:12 -0400, Bill Ricker wrote:
> > >> Bitcoin initially did not require specialized hardware, but as new
> golden
> > >> hashes get harder to find, mining costs more in electricity and
> > >> depreciation without speciality gear (or a huge BITNET running for
> free).
> > >> If scarcity drives up BTC value, maybe, but odds of finding one still
> > >> declining as payoff increases. I haven't checked the calculation
> lately, it
> > >> would be a good exercise: what would an AWS VPS mining cluster big
> enough
> > >> to average 1 BTC mined per week cost to operate?
> > >>
> > >> Which if any of the alt-coins have legit upside is not yet clear, and
> the
> > >> most likely of them already requires a cluster and has had its first
> major
> > >> scam.
> > >>
> > >> / bill
> > >>
> > >> On Jun 16, 2017 5:58 PM, "Greg Rundlett (freephile)" <
> g...@freephile.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > My son is investigating crypto-currency mining and seems to think
> it's
> > >> > incredibly lucrative.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've not delved into it at all.
> > >> >
> > >> > Comments? Anyone actually making money mining?
> > >> >
> > >> > From what I've previously gathered, I thought the amount of
> computational
> > >> > power, expense and electricity just about squeezed out anybody but
> those
> > >> > with super-specialized hardware.
> > >> >
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Re: Loading ISO's in Virtual Box

[Jeffrey Creem]

If on Windows 10 pro, you can use hyper-v which is built in




On Nov 30, 2017 4:37 PM, "Bruce.Labitt" 
wrote:

> Thanks John.  I got a little further.
>
> Now I get an error that is related to hardening.  The error blames AV SW
> on my windows machine.  I'm not surprised, but I can't even temporarily
> turn off the AV to test the hypothesis.  The machine is relatively locked
> down but I do have admin privileges.  I
>
> I then made the mistake of installing a VB extension pack.  That causes
> BSOD.  I haven't seen that in ages.  I'm done with that.  There's no excuse
> for that any more.
>
> Is there a VM SW that actually works with a corporate managed PC?  And is
> low cost or free?
>
> I'd go with VMware if I was going to always needing VM's, but this is not
> the case.  I only need a VM to install some SW on yet a different machine.
> It's a Jetson TX2.  This is a heck of a lot of work to do a tiny thing.
> What's driving me crazy is that I already have the TX2 talking to the
> internet, so you'd think an update would be trivial.
>
> Bruce
>
> Sent from Blue 
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 1:37 PM, John Welch  wrote:
>>
>> Create your VirtualBox VM then go to Settings --> Storage. The IDE
>> Controller includes the virtual CD/DVD drive for the VM. Click on the
>> optical drive and then in the Attributes section click on the icon that
>> looks like a CD/DVD. This will allow you to choose your ISO image.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Bruce.Labitt <
>> bruce.lab...@myfairpoint.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 1:08 PM, "Bruce.Labitt" <
>>> bruce.lab...@myfairpoint.net> wrote:

 Just downloaded Virtual Box onto my work Windows computer.  V5.2.0.

 Can't seem to see how to load an iso on it.  I need to run Ubuntu 14.04
 as the SW I need is only supported on that version.

 No where in the instructions do I see how to get the correct iso.  All
 I see is I can select Ubuntu 64 bit, not the version.

 Can someone point me in the right direction?  "Help" doesn't seem to be
 helpful.

 Bruce

 Sent from Blue 

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Re: Reminder/RSVP -- meet *this Thursday* for chat & beer.

[Jeffrey Creem]

Im still going

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 4:48 PM Ken D'Ambrosio  wrote:

> Some days...
> So! My clutch has gone to that junkyard in the sky, and it will take a
> miracle for me to make the meeting, being as I'm broken down on the side
> of the road in Billerica and the cops are gonna tow me for being in the
> wrong place. (Roadside said 90 minutes; given my situation, I have to
> agree with the cops.)
>
> The table is reserved for "Linux" (or however they interpreted that) and
> is for 15 -- which as of now is one fewer than RSVP'd, given my absence.
>
> Please accept my apologies...
>
> -Ken
>
> On 2020-02-18 15:17, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:
> > Hey, all!  Just a reminder that we're going to get together at
> > Martha's Exchange this Thursday at 6:00.  Nothing formal, though
> > Maddog has threatened to bring a PiDP-11.  (Note the add'l 'i' for
> > those wondering if he needs help with the handtrucks.)
> >
> > Trying to get a quick headcount so I know what to tell Martha's to set
> > aside for us.
> >
> > Looking forward to seeing whoever's able to show up!
> >
> > -Ken
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Re: Reminder/RSVP -- meet *this Thursday* for chat & beer.

[Jeffrey Creem]

I'll stop by

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 1:56 PM Ric Werme  wrote:

> I'll be there.
>
> Note that we'll be there at date/time
> 2020 Feb 20 @ 20:02:02
> In odometer format, that's two days before the palindrome
> 2020000202
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Re: Nashua-area folks -- meet up?

[Jeffrey Creem]

Martha's is nice. I'd also suggest oasis cafe inside of sky venture. It's
warm. There are real palm trees and a decent bar and good food.

Martha's has the advantage of local beer so it is a good choice too

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 10:47 AM Ken D'Ambrosio  wrote:

> It's been brought to my attention by someone (*cough*Ben*cough*) that
> it's been a long, long time since we got together for Linux, grub and
> suds.  While I think full-fledged meetings are probably not on the
> agenda (ha, ha), is there some interest out there?  Maybe crash Martha's
> some evening?
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