Re: Localizing GNOME 3 marketing messages

2011-03-28 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 16:52 +0100, Lucian Adrian Grijincu wrote:
 Is the website supposed to be used after the Gnome3 launch?
 
 Now it contains text like: „GNOME 3 is scheduled for release in April 2011”...
 This text is likely to change come April 6th, so, to have it
 translated by the launch date, we should have strings available
 beforehand.
 
 Any such plans?

Done in a temporary file as commented lines don't get picked up for the
pot file:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome3-web/commit/?id=9f536a4a8795978288557f99247aef92438033c9

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Re: Dia

2011-03-28 Thread Коростіль Данило

On 28.03.11 08:31, Andre Klapper wrote:

On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 01:08 +0300, Коростіль Данило wrote:

Dia has branch dia-0-97 on DL. But git branch displays only master.
What is release version? And how can i switch to dia-0-97?

See
https://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/GitHowTo#Working_with_branches

andre


Because one good person translated it for dia-0-97 branch (shown by DL) 
and sent it to me. Perhaps needed to switch or open the old branch.

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String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi there,

Over the past week, I've worked on the panel to make sure the fallback
mode would be a bit more maintainable in 3.x. This includes a port to
GSettings, and more (see below).

Also a bit of a warning: fredp wants me to finish the minimize
difference between fallback  shell bug, which possibly means a few
other strings (that are all in gnome-shell, in the user menu). But I
don't want to block things on this.

For translators, the impact is:
 + 13 fuzzy strings
 + 4 new strings

Of those 17 strings, 15 are in schemas (so really not visible, except in
dconf-editor; and l10n.gnome.org has magic to let you ignore those), and
2 are error messages displayed in extremely unlikely cases:
 Cannot create initial panel layout.\n
 Launcher location is not set, cannot load launcher\n

The rationale for the (admittedly way too late) change is that
gnome-panel has a strong compatibility story in general (2.32.x can load
a 2.0.x configuration), and this comes with a price, given the way the
panel is configurable. So for 3.0, we don't want to have to deal with
gconf configuration; which means the port to GSettings is quite
important.

The other important changes in the branch I have are the following (they
do not impact translations):
  - Remove popup menu for items in applications menu
  - Remove drawers
  - Remove compatibility with 2.x configuration
  - Start 3.0 panel with brand new configuration
  - Drop per-applet Lock setting
  - Support 3.0 lockdown settings
  - Correctly display Lock screen menu item
  - Make it easy for applets to store their settings in GSettings

It's all in
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-panel/log/?h=wip/3.0-freeze-break

(I didn't cc gnome-doc-list, btw, based on feedback from Shaun)

Again, this all happens way too late and I'm very well aware of that.
But I think this is all important for the 3.0 fallback story.

Is release team happy with merging those changes?

Vincent

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Possible bug in gnome3.master.pot

2011-03-28 Thread Daniel Mustieles García
Hi all,

There is a veeery long string in gnome3.master.pot that seems to be a bug
(it looks like several strings mergeg into just one string).

I've not found this module in bugzilla, so I'm posting it here.

Many thanks for your help

P.D. when will translations be available in the web (eg, through a language
selector)?
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[gnome-themes-standard] Created branch gnome-3-0

2011-03-28 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
The branch 'gnome-3-0' was created.

Summary of new commits:

  2e6f142... adwaita: remove the dark theme for 3.0
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Re: Possible bug in gnome3.master.pot

2011-03-28 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:31:53PM +0200, Daniel Mustieles García wrote:
 P.D. when will translations be available in the web (eg, through a language
 selector)?

It should automatically show it based on your browser language. It
doesn't always work atm. I'll look at it before GNOME 3.0.

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Variables placheholders comment

2011-03-28 Thread dooteo
Hi all, 

There is a comment into gnome-packagekit which makes me doubt about my
faith in gettext.

Here is the comment:

#. TRANSLATOR: %i %s %i %s are %i minutes %i seconds
#. * Swap order with %2$s %2$i %1$s %1$i if needed
#. TRANSLATOR: %i %s %i %s are %i hours %i minutes
#. * Swap order with %2$s %2$i %1$s %1$i if needed

but, as far as I know, swap order (if translation needs) should be:

%4$s %3$i %2$s %1$i (which outputs such as 'seconds number minutes
number' message)

So, placeholders should be unique. Am I wrong?

Best regards,

Dooteo

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Re: Variables placheholders comment

2011-03-28 Thread Ask Hjorth Larsen
Hi

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:54 PM, dooteo doo...@zundan.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 There is a comment into gnome-packagekit which makes me doubt about my
 faith in gettext.

 Here is the comment:

        #. TRANSLATOR: %i %s %i %s are %i minutes %i seconds
        #. * Swap order with %2$s %2$i %1$s %1$i if needed
        #. TRANSLATOR: %i %s %i %s are %i hours %i minutes
        #. * Swap order with %2$s %2$i %1$s %1$i if needed

 but, as far as I know, swap order (if translation needs) should be:

        %4$s %3$i %2$s %1$i (which outputs such as 'seconds number minutes
 number' message)

 So, placeholders should be unique. Am I wrong?

 Best regards,

 Dooteo

You can validate the substitution codes with msgfmt -cv filename.po.
 It should complain if the substitution codes are wrong.

If the translator comment is wrong, I guess one should file a bug
report with gnome-packagekit.

Regards
Ask
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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Vincent Untz wrote:

 Over the past week, I've worked on the panel to make sure the fallback
 mode would be a bit more maintainable in 3.x. This includes a port to
 GSettings, and more (see below).

I have been running that branch a little bit this afternoon, it works
well and looks like a very useful cleanup, I still have high hopes you
will manage the final bits to make it more similar to the shell layout
(centering the clock mostly).

1 of 2 from me.


Frederic
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Re: Possible bug in gnome3.master.pot

2011-03-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Daniel Mustieles García wrote:

 There is a veeery long string in gnome3.master.pot that seems to be a bug
 (it looks like several strings mergeg into just one string).

Caused by index.html no longer being compliant xml, making xml2po
fails in an arbitrary way; I fixed that now.


Frederic
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Re: Possible bug in gnome3.master.pot

2011-03-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Olav Vitters wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:31:53PM +0200, Daniel Mustieles García wrote:
  P.D. when will translations be available in the web (eg, through a language
  selector)?
 
 It should automatically show it based on your browser language. It
 doesn't always work atm. I'll look at it before GNOME 3.0.

We will also take some time at the release hackfest for this, probably
copying some code from library-web.


Frederic
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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

 Also a bit of a warning: fredp wants me to finish the minimize
 difference between fallback  shell bug, which possibly means a few
 other strings (that are all in gnome-shell, in the user menu). But I
 don't want to block things on this.

Vincent agreed to do the magic to reuse the strings already translated
for gnome-shell to reduce the load on translators.

 Of those 17 strings, 15 are in schemas (so really not visible, except in
 dconf-editor; and l10n.gnome.org has magic to let you ignore those), and
 2 are error messages displayed in extremely unlikely cases:
  Cannot create initial panel layout.\n
  Launcher location is not set, cannot load launcher\n

Those are displayed in the UI, right? Because otherwise we more or less
agreed to not translate messages that are thrown to the command-line
(using g_warning/error) as it makes it more difficult to debug things.

 Again, this all happens way too late and I'm very well aware of that.
 But I think this is all important for the 3.0 fallback story.
 
 Is release team happy with merging those changes?

Overall this is considerable really late but I assume that the
release-team has great interest in releasing with a 3.0 panel and as
such I won't be in that way. Basically we are talking about 2 UI strings
which should be doable in about a week (and even those are very unlikely
to ever appear).

So 1 of 2 from i18n.

Regards,
Johannes


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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 28 mars 2011, à 19:35 +0200, Johannes Schmid a écrit :
 
  Of those 17 strings, 15 are in schemas (so really not visible, except in
  dconf-editor; and l10n.gnome.org has magic to let you ignore those), and
  2 are error messages displayed in extremely unlikely cases:
   Cannot create initial panel layout.\n
   Launcher location is not set, cannot load launcher\n
 
 Those are displayed in the UI, right? Because otherwise we more or less
 agreed to not translate messages that are thrown to the command-line
 (using g_warning/error) as it makes it more difficult to debug things.

Hrm, they are from g_printerr(). If the right thing to do is to not mark
them for translations, then I can do this and that would only leave the
schemas-related strings.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 13:32 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote:
  Vincent Untz wrote:
 
  Over the past week, I've worked on the panel to make sure the fallback
  mode would be a bit more maintainable in 3.x. This includes a port to
  GSettings, and more (see below).
 
  I have been running that branch a little bit this afternoon, it works
  well and looks like a very useful cleanup, I still have high hopes you
  will manage the final bits to make it more similar to the shell layout
  (centering the clock mostly).
 
  1 of 2 from me.
 
 2/2.

r-t approval 3 out of 2.

Break everything you can, baby (or maybe... not)!

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Re: Problem starting out with git account (translator)

2011-03-28 Thread Kizito Birabwa
Thank you for the advice.

However, since that time, whenever I try the same command I get this:


[muwawa@localhost ~]$ ssh -v kbira...@git.gnome.org
OpenSSH_5.8p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0d 8 Feb 2011
debug1: Connecting to git.gnome.org [209.132.180.173] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: identity file /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_rsa type 1
debug1: identity file /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_rsa-cert type -1
debug1: identity file /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
debug1: identity file /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_dsa-cert type -1
debug1: identity file /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_ecdsa type -1
debug1: identity file /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_ecdsa-cert type -1
debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_4.3
debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.3 pat OpenSSH_4*
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.8
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug1: kex: server-client aes128-ctr hmac-md5 none
debug1: kex: client-server aes128-ctr hmac-md5 none
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(102410248192) sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
debug1: Server host key: RSA 00:39:fd:1a:a4:2c:6b:28:b8:2e:95:31:c2:90:72:03
debug1: Host 'git.gnome.org' is known and matches the RSA host key.
debug1: Found key in /home/muwawa/.ssh/known_hosts:1
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: Roaming not allowed by server
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_rsa
debug1: Remote: Forced command: /home/admin/bin/run-git-or-special-cmd
debug1: Remote: Pty allocation disabled.
debug1: Remote: Port forwarding disabled.
debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 535
debug1: key_parse_private_pem: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed
debug1: read PEM private key done: type unknown
Enter passphrase for key '/home/muwawa/.ssh/id_rsa': 
debug1: Trying private key: /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_dsa
debug1: Trying private key: /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_ecdsa
debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
Permission denied (publickey).
[muwawa@localhost ~]$

I am totally baffled. Do I need to create a new key set?


Regards,


Kizito



--- On Mon, 17/1/11, Fran Dieguez lis...@mabishu.com wrote:

 From: Fran Dieguez lis...@mabishu.com
 Subject: Re: Problem starting out with git account (translator)
 To: Kizito Birabwa kbira...@yahoo.co.uk
 Cc: GNOME gnome-i18n@gnome.org
 Date: Monday, 17 January, 2011, 22:40
 As you try to connect to
 git.gnome.org server for the first time you
 must accept its RSA key.
 So, when you see Are you sure you want to continue
 connecting
 (yes/no)? you must insert yes
 
 If your git account is properly configured, you can clone
 the
 repository.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Fran
 
 O Lun, 17-01-2011 ás 22:15 +, Kizito Birabwa
 escribiu:
  Hello,
  
  I have recently been given a git account.
  
  However, when I try to follow the git HowTo I get
 this:
  
  [muwawa@localhost ~]$ ssh -v kbira...@git.gnome.org
  OpenSSH_5.5p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0c 2 Dec 2010
  debug1: Connecting to git.gnome.org [209.132.180.173]
 port 22.
  debug1: Connection established.
  debug1: identity file /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_rsa type 1
  debug1: identity file /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_rsa-cert
 type -1
  debug1: identity file /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_dsa type
 -1
  debug1: identity file /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_dsa-cert
 type -1
  debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software
 version OpenSSH_4.3
  debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.3 pat OpenSSH_4*
  debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
  debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.5
  debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
  debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
  debug1: kex: server-client aes128-ctr hmac-md5
 none
  debug1: kex: client-server aes128-ctr hmac-md5
 none
  debug1:
 SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(102410248192) sent
  debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
  debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent
  debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
  The authenticity of host 'git.gnome.org
 (209.132.180.173)' can't be established.
  RSA key fingerprint is
 00:39:fd:1a:a4:2c:6b:28:b8:2e:95:31:c2:90:72:03.
  Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
 no
  Host key verification failed.
  
  I have had a look at the git manual on my computer and
 done some searching on the internet, but fail to make sense
 of what I have come across so far. Could you advise me where
 I am going wrong?
  
  Regard,
  
  Kizito
  
  
        
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Re: Problem starting out with git account (translator)

2011-03-28 Thread Claude Paroz
Le lundi 28 mars 2011 à 19:57 +0100, Kizito Birabwa a écrit :
 Thank you for the advice.
 
 However, since that time, whenever I try the same command I get this:
 
 
 [muwawa@localhost ~]$ ssh -v kbira...@git.gnome.org
 OpenSSH_5.8p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0d 8 Feb 2011
 debug1: Connecting to git.gnome.org [209.132.180.173] port 22.
 debug1: Connection established.
(...)
 debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 535
 debug1: key_parse_private_pem: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed
 debug1: read PEM private key done: type unknown
 Enter passphrase for key '/home/muwawa/.ssh/id_rsa': 
 debug1: Trying private key: /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_dsa
 debug1: Trying private key: /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_ecdsa
 debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
 Permission denied (publickey).
 [muwawa@localhost ~]$
 
 I am totally baffled. Do I need to create a new key set?

Are you sure you have the right passphrase? You can check by running:
$ ssh-add
If the passphrase is the right one, you should get the message Identity
added:

Claude

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String additions to 'gnome-panel.master'

2011-03-28 Thread GNOME Status Pages
This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
http://l10n.gnome.org.

There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-panel.master':

+ A list of panel object IDs. Each ID identifies an individual panel object 
(e.g. an applet, launcher, action button or menu button/bar). The settings for 
each of these objects are stored in /apps/panel/objects/$(id).
+ Cannot create initial panel layout.\n
+ Determines how the image set by image-uri is rendered. Possible values 
are \none\, \stretch\, \fit\. With \stretch\, the image will be scaled 
to the panel dimensions and the aspect ratio of the image will not be 
maintained. With \fit\, the image will be scaled (retaining the aspect ratio 
of the image) to the panel height (if horizontal).
+ History of \Run Application\ dialog
+ Icon used for button
+ If set to 'end', the position of the object is interpreted relative to 
the right (or bottom if vertical) edge of the panel.
+ If true, tooltips are shown for objects in panels. Tooltips can be 
disabled for the whole desktop with the gtk-enable-tooltips property in GTK+.
+ Image options
+ Launcher location is not set, cannot load launcher\n
+ Object IID
+ The implementation ID of the object - e.g. 
\ClockAppletFactory::ClockApplet\.
+ The list of commands used in the past in the \Run Application\ dialog.
+ The location of the image file used as the icon for the object's button. 
If empty, the default icon for the menu will be used.
+ The path from which the menu contents is contructed. If empty, the menu 
will be the default applications menu.
+ The text to display in a tooltip for this this menu.
+ Tooltip displayed for menu
+ Which type of background should be used for this panel. Possible values 
are \none\ - the default GTK+ widget background will be used, \color\ - the 
color key will be used as background color or \image\ - the image specified 
by the image key will be used as background.

Note that this doesn't directly indicate a string freeze break, but it
might be worth investigating.
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Re: Problem starting out with git account (translator)

2011-03-28 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Kizito Birabwa kbira...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 --- On Mon, 28/3/11, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:

 From: Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net
 Subject: Re: Problem starting out with git account (translator)
 To: Kizito Birabwa kbira...@yahoo.co.uk
 Cc: GNOME gnome-i18n@gnome.org
 Date: Monday, 28 March, 2011, 20:21
 Le lundi 28 mars 2011 à 19:57 +0100,
 Kizito Birabwa a écrit :
  Thank you for the advice.
 
  However, since that time, whenever I try the same
 command I get this:
 
 
  [muwawa@localhost ~]$ ssh -v kbira...@git.gnome.org
  OpenSSH_5.8p1, OpenSSL 1.0.0d 8 Feb 2011
  debug1: Connecting to git.gnome.org [209.132.180.173]
 port 22.
  debug1: Connection established.
 (...)
  debug1: Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 535
  debug1: key_parse_private_pem: PEM_read_PrivateKey
 failed
  debug1: read PEM private key done: type
 unknown
  Enter passphrase for key '/home/muwawa/.ssh/id_rsa':
  debug1: Trying private key: /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_dsa
  debug1: Trying private key:
 /home/muwawa/.ssh/id_ecdsa
  debug1: No more authentication methods to try.
  Permission denied (publickey).
  [muwawa@localhost ~]$
 
  I am totally baffled. Do I need to create a new key
 set?

 Are you sure you have the right passphrase? You can check
 by running:
 $ ssh-add
 If the passphrase is the right one, you should get the
 message Identity
 added:

 Claude

 P.S. It is good practice on GNOME lists to not top-post,
 thanks




 OK. That fails. It seems that I have to re-do all this setting up the keys 
 and pass phrase - because I have forgotten what I originally used.

 Does this mean I have to request a git account all over again, or will this 
 one accept me re-setting the key and pass phrases?


Fran replied to you on this in January.
His reply: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2011-January/msg00065.html

Have you tried what he suggested?

Simos
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