Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Release notes 3.12 are not translated to the Slovak language. User visiting https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ see the Slovak release notes for 3.10 instead the English version for 3.12. It's wrong. Allan Day píše v Út 18. 03. 2014 v 22:45 +: Hi everyone! The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised, so it can now be translated. Unfortunately, the screenshots are not complete, but that will happen in the next day or two. The release itself is scheduled for 26 March. The notes can be found in the 3.12 branch of the release-notes module: https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/?h=gnome-3-12 Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Allan ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Hi Marek, Marek Černocký wrote: Release notes 3.12 are not translated to the Slovak language. User visiting https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ see the Slovak release notes for 3.10 instead the English version for 3.12. It's wrong. Indeed, the way branching happened on the server caused that, thanks for noticing, I have now manually removed *.sk files (and then checked for other languages with the problem and removed *.da, *.el, and *.id). Fred ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Should I see the translated version of release notes when accessing https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ ? Just asking, because I see it in English. To see in my language (pt_BR) I have to append index.html.pt_BR to the URL.. 2014-03-27 8:59 GMT-03:00 Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org: Hi Marek, Marek Černocký wrote: Release notes 3.12 are not translated to the Slovak language. User visiting https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ see the Slovak release notes for 3.10 instead the English version for 3.12. It's wrong. Indeed, the way branching happened on the server caused that, thanks for noticing, I have now manually removed *.sk files (and then checked for other languages with the problem and removed *.da, *.el, and *.id). Fred ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Rafael Ferreira wrote: Should I see the translated version of release notes when accessing https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ ? Just asking, because I see it in English. To see in my language (pt_BR) I have to append index.html.pt_BR to the URL.. This is based on content-negociation so it should happen automatically if your browser is configured correctly; but in your specific case maybe there's a misconfiguration on the server and a mismatch between pt-br and pt_BR. (CC to Andrea Veri, he could probably tell) Fred ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
2014-03-27 9:20 GMT-03:00 Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org: Rafael Ferreira wrote: Should I see the translated version of release notes when accessing https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/ ? Just asking, because I see it in English. To see in my language (pt_BR) I have to append index.html.pt_BR to the URL.. This is based on content-negociation so it should happen automatically if your browser is configured correctly; but in your specific case maybe there's a misconfiguration on the server and a mismatch between pt-br and pt_BR. Right. Now I remember that I discussed this issue with Andrea in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710939 When I removed English from language list of Chromium, it appears in Portuguese. Basically, if English is listed in my language list (which was as *lowest* priority, after Portuguese and Portuguese (Brazil) ), GNOME websites appear in English, while IMHO it should behave just as a fallback. P.s.: This language list (that includes English as lowest priority) came in my distribution (Arch Linux). All I did was remove it right ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
With GNOME app generic names, some sentences like Software Has Grown
Up are confusing. Just wondering if we could, for example, float a
little GNOME foot, the same way we would have a '(tm)' sign. Something
like:
span.app:after {
content: url('https://help.gnome.org/skin/gnome-16.png');
vertical-align: 0.2ex;
}
On 18 March 2014 23:45, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone!
The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised, so it can
now be translated. Unfortunately, the screenshots are not complete,
but that will happen in the next day or two. The release itself is
scheduled for 26 March.
The notes can be found in the 3.12 branch of the release-notes module:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/?h=gnome-3-12
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks!
Allan
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Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014, Rafael Ferreira wrote: Right. Now I remember that I discussed this issue with Andrea in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710939 When I removed English from language list of Chromium, it appears in Portuguese. Basically, if English is listed in my language list (which was as *lowest* priority, after Portuguese and Portuguese (Brazil) ), GNOME websites appear in English, while IMHO it should behave just as a fallback. I'm very surprised after a few tests I just ran: 1. every single language works fine when configured as the first preference on your browser. You can test this by selecting 'af', which stands on the latest spots on the LanguagePriority list. You will see [1] showing up half translated. (I suppose some of the translations are still missing for that specific locale) 2. pt_BR is the only affected locale that does not show up properly even when selected as the very first locale on your browser. 3. curl shows success but chrome and firefox are not working as expected: curl -iI -H 'Accept-Language: pt_BR,en_GB;q=0.7,en;q=0.6' https://help.gnome.org HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:26:34 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Content-Location: index.html.pt_BR Vary: negotiate,accept-language,Cookie TCN: choice Last-Modified: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:36:52 GMT ETag: 4404a6-1c22-4f596ad8d38cd Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 7202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Language: pt_br Connection: close httpd.conf has: AddLanguage pt-br .pt_BR AddLanguage pt_BR .pt_BR I tried adding: AddLanguage pt_br .pt_BR but it didn't help. Rafael can you test the above as well? specifically check that: 1. the only broken language not showing up is pt_BR 2. selecting other languages != from pt_BR works, for example try with 'af' or 'sq' which are the latest entries on LanguagePriority as you can see from this excerpt: LanguagePriority en ca cs da de el eo es et fr he hr hu it ja ko ltz nl nn no pl pt pt_br pt_BR ru sv tr zh-CN zh-TW uk eu af sq be@latn 3. test the above with curl 4. test the above with both chrome and firefox Thanks! -- Cheers, Andrea Debian Developer, Fedora / EPEL packager, GNOME Sysadmin Team Coordinator, GNOME Foundation Membership Elections Committee Chairman Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Thanks Jiro! Allan On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jiro Matsuzawa jmatsuz...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Allan and all, Thank you for the great work. The release notes had a build error. It was a simple problem, so I fixed it and pushed [1]. If I made any mistakes, would you please revert it? Thanks in advance. [1] https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-12id=055deb44dbb4e0b599d107f9101df42ff7a47284 -- Jiro Matsuzawa Email: jmatsuzawa at gnome.org GPG Key ID: 0xECC442E9 ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Hey Andre, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: ... Also, did you update the list of languages on https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/i18n.html ? I really doubt that GNOME provides 80% translation coverage for 50 languages nowadays, but this is stated on that page. I just updated the language list and the statistics. I hope it's OK: https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-12id=1ac8160123b4b39cfab09766f080e7ef425f218e I'm missing Slovak in that list. Yes that's a real shame. I copied over the list from last release (should have checked that)... I've made a note to fix this for next cycle. In the mean time I'm not sure what to do. I've left Slovak out of the list for fear of breaking translations at this late stage. If people think it's OK to add it, I will. Allan ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: ... Up-to-date numbers (feel free to include) are: * 34236 commits in git master of all repositories in GNOME Git since 2013-09-25 * 1140 unique authors ... Thanks so much for these numbers, Andre. I've updated the notes with them: https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-12id=18fc1229de0cdcfff3f3365eb26b2bafc2e681cd Allan ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Which should be the Slovak translation percentage at this moment? If it's added, I can check translation syntax, to avoid problems when building the module, but if the percentage is being near to 0%, maybe we should left it out... 2014-03-26 11:42 GMT+01:00 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com: Hey Andre, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: ... Also, did you update the list of languages on https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/i18n.html ? I really doubt that GNOME provides 80% translation coverage for 50 languages nowadays, but this is stated on that page. I just updated the language list and the statistics. I hope it's OK: https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-12id=1ac8160123b4b39cfab09766f080e7ef425f218e I'm missing Slovak in that list. Yes that's a real shame. I copied over the list from last release (should have checked that)... I've made a note to fix this for next cycle. In the mean time I'm not sure what to do. I've left Slovak out of the list for fear of breaking translations at this late stage. If people think it's OK to add it, I will. Allan ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com wrote: Which should be the Slovak translation percentage at this moment? If it's added, I can check translation syntax, to avoid problems when building the module, but if the percentage is being near to 0%, maybe we should left it out... Slovak is at 90%, which means that it should be on the list of supported languages. The Slovak string won't have been translated though. If your concern is just that Slovak appears untranslated, please go ahead and add it ASAP. :-) -- Alexandre Franke ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Sure... please include it Thanks! 2014-03-26 12:29 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com: On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com wrote: Which should be the Slovak translation percentage at this moment? If it's added, I can check translation syntax, to avoid problems when building the module, but if the percentage is being near to 0%, maybe we should left it out... Slovak is at 90%, which means that it should be on the list of supported languages. The Slovak string won't have been translated though. If your concern is just that Slovak appears untranslated, please go ahead and add it ASAP. :-) -- Alexandre Franke ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Done! Thanks for your help everyone! Allan On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com wrote: Sure... please include it Thanks! 2014-03-26 12:29 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com: On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com wrote: Which should be the Slovak translation percentage at this moment? If it's added, I can check translation syntax, to avoid problems when building the module, but if the percentage is being near to 0%, maybe we should left it out... Slovak is at 90%, which means that it should be on the list of supported languages. The Slovak string won't have been translated though. If your concern is just that Slovak appears untranslated, please go ahead and add it ASAP. :-) -- Alexandre Franke ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 20:35 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 22:45 +, Allan Day wrote: The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised Allan: Text currently states The release contains 34786 changes by approximately 985 contributors. Up-to-date numbers (feel free to include) are: * 34236 commits in git master of all repositories in GNOME Git since 2013-09-25 * 1140 unique authors Still missing Slovak in https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/i18n.html andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Hi Allan and all, Thank you for the great work. The release notes had a build error. It was a simple problem, so I fixed it and pushed [1]. If I made any mistakes, would you please revert it? Thanks in advance. [1] https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-12id=055deb44dbb4e0b599d107f9101df42ff7a47284 -- Jiro Matsuzawa Email: jmatsuzawa at gnome.org GPG Key ID: 0xECC442E9 ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Thanks Allan for the info. Could somebody from i18n make it available in DL? Happy translating! 2014-03-18 23:45 GMT+01:00 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com: Hi everyone! The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised, so it can now be translated. Unfortunately, the screenshots are not complete, but that will happen in the next day or two. The release itself is scheduled for 26 March. The notes can be found in the 3.12 branch of the release-notes module: https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/?h=gnome-3-12 Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Allan ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
2014-03-19 12:13 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com: Thanks Allan for the info. Could somebody from i18n make it available in DL? I've added it to Damned Lies a couple of days ago, but forgot to add it to the GNOME Infrastructure set when Allan announced it's ready. I've done it now. Thanks for a reminder! Best regards, -- Piotr Drąg http://raven.fedorapeople.org/ ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Thanks to you for doing the job! :) 2014-03-19 15:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Drąg piotrd...@gmail.com: 2014-03-19 12:13 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com: Thanks Allan for the info. Could somebody from i18n make it available in DL? I've added it to Damned Lies a couple of days ago, but forgot to add it to the GNOME Infrastructure set when Allan announced it's ready. I've done it now. Thanks for a reminder! Best regards, -- Piotr Drąg http://raven.fedorapeople.org/ ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Thanks to you for doing the job! :) 2014-03-19 15:26 GMT+01:00 Piotr Drąg piotrd...@gmail.com: 2014-03-19 12:13 GMT+01:00 Daniel Mustieles García daniel.mustie...@gmail.com: Thanks Allan for the info. Could somebody from i18n make it available in DL? I've added it to Damned Lies a couple of days ago, but forgot to add it to the GNOME Infrastructure set when Allan announced it's ready. I've done it now. Thanks for a reminder! Best regards, -- Piotr Drąg http://raven.fedorapeople.org/ ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
Re: 3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
On Tue, 2014-03-18 at 22:45 +, Allan Day wrote: The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised Allan: The release contains 34786 changes by approximately 985 contributors.: If 3.12 does not magically have the same numbers as 3.10, I doubt that the release-notes are finalised or string frozen. Also, did you update the list of languages on https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.12/i18n.html ? I really doubt that GNOME provides 80% translation coverage for 50 languages nowadays, but this is stated on that page. I'm missing Slovak in that list. And I see languages like Asturian, Arabic, Estonian, Gujarati, Kannada, Malayalam, Marathi, Oriya, Romanian, Thai, Turkish, Vietnamese listed (not a problem as they can be commented out quickly before the 3.12.0 release). These languages have been constantly losing translation coverage over the last two years (if anybody wants to discuss outreach which is another topic). andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
3.12 Release Notes Available to Translate
Hi everyone! The text for the 3.12 release notes has now been finalised, so it can now be translated. Unfortunately, the screenshots are not complete, but that will happen in the next day or two. The release itself is scheduled for 26 March. The notes can be found in the 3.12 branch of the release-notes module: https://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/?h=gnome-3-12 Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Allan ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n
