Re: New power diplay in control center

2010-11-23 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

 Put the computer to sleep after a period of inactivity.
 [x] On AC power: [$TIME v]
 [x] On battery power:  [$TIME v]

File a bug about it. Though even the original phrase can be translated
into that - it would just differ a bit from the original construction
and the translator would have to check in the UI that everything fits
together.

But I am pretty sure Richard is willing to fix, for an english speaker
these things are just not obvious (and probably the same for the whole
family of languages).

Johannes


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New power diplay in control center

2010-11-22 Thread Luca Ferretti
Richard blogged [1] about new UI for power preferences in GNOME 3.0. It
was a known change[2], but until now I didn't notice the labels.


Put the computer to sleep when on:
  [x] AC power and inactive for:  [ $TIME  v]
  [x] Battery power and inactive for: [ $TIME  v]


Is this l10n/i18n friendly? At least in Italian language could be a
couple of issues (minor, understandable by users, but sub-optimal).

The golden rule was do not break phrases, any suggestion?

My own is

bSleep if inactive/b
   [x] When on AC power after:  [ $TIME  v]
   [x] When on battery power after: [ $TIME  v]

(but then we'll need a category label for other options)


[1]
http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2010/11/22/gnome-control-center-in-gnome-3/
[2] http://live.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings/Power

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Re: New power diplay in control center

2010-11-22 Thread jbow...@amathaine.com
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Luca Ferretti lferr...@gnome.org wrote:

 Put the computer to sleep when on:
  [x] AC power and inactive for:      [ $TIME  v]
  [x] Battery power and inactive for: [ $TIME  v]



It certainly will create odd impressions in languages which have
dative or accusative declensions. Also, there are likely to be issues
in any languages that have SOV [subject-object-verb] word order or
postpositions (Chinese or Turkish, for example).

It's not particularly good English, for that matter. The labels create
dangling prepositions, which are generally frowned upon. Capitalising
battery is inconsistent with normal English usage. Using a
proposition just before the $TIME control also means that the time
periods will probably not be translated correctly (because they can't
be declined properly without the full context) and again creates
issues for languages with postpositions.

Put the computer to sleep after a period of inactivity.
[x] On AC power: [$TIME v]
[x] On battery power:  [$TIME v]

This is probably the least awkward phrasing in English that stands a
chance of being easily translated in most languages. More explicit
constructions would be easier to translate but sound considerably more
awkward in English.
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