Re: Totem branched for 2.28

2009-09-30 Thread Sveinn í Felli (IMAP)
Hi,

Philip Withnall wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 00:36 +0200, Gil Forcada wrote:
 El dl 28 de 09 de 2009 a les 23:34 +0100, en/na Philip Withnall va
 escriure:

 Note that I had to fiddle with the Plural-Forms headers in the
 Icelandic, Malay and Uighur translations before I could push the branch.
 Uighur in particular needs some attention, since I had to make up a
 plural form.
 Did you filled bugs against those translations teams to let them know
 about it?
 
 I don't think the Icelandic or Malay problems need bugs filing, since I
 was able to copy their Plural-Forms header from other .po files/Damned
 Lies, so it should be correct. Any affected plural strings I've marked
 as fuzzy.
 
I see in the new icelandic totem.po a huge string for plurals:
Plural-Forms: nplurals=2; plural=(n % 100 != 1  n % 100 !=
21  n % 100 != 31  n % 100 != 41  n % 100 != 51  n %
100 != 61  n % 100 != 71  n % 100 != 81  n % 100 != 91);\n

Normally we use:
Plural-Forms: nplurals=2; plural=n != 1;\n

Actually there's a bigger problem with the icelandic
translations; almost all recent translations are not merged
into the actual/updated po file, they just lie in DL like
sitting ducks along with the old po. Maybe this is a
question of manually pushing the merger, but anyway I don't
know how this should work, being a plain mortal translator
w/o git or svn/cvs.

I've contacted the is-coordinator and filed a bug but no-one
seems to be able to push those translations.
Among them were totem and totem-pl-parser which still has
the plural bug - corrected by me quite a long time ago.

If there is a howto describing handling of translations in
DamnedLies (for translators), I'd appreciate a link.

Cheers,

Sveinn í Felli

 I would like to file a bug against the Uighur (ug) translation, but it
 doesn't have a component under l10n on b.g.o. :-\
 
 Philip
 
 Regards,

 Thanks,
 Philip
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Re: Totem branched for 2.28

2009-09-30 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2009, 09:39 + schrieb Sveinn í Felli:
 Actually there's a bigger problem with the icelandic
 translations; almost all recent translations are not merged
 into the actual/updated po file, they just lie in DL like
 sitting ducks along with the old po.

That's because somebody has to commit them to GIT. According to
http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/is it looks like you have nobody with GIT
access...

 I've contacted the is-coordinator and filed a bug

URL, please?

 but no-one
 seems to be able to push those translations.

 If there is a howto describing handling of translations in
 DamnedLies (for translators), I'd appreciate a link.

There probably is something in
http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/ .

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Re: Totem branched for 2.28

2009-09-30 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Thanks, this clarified many points.

Andre Klapper wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2009, 09:39 + schrieb Sveinn í Felli:
 Actually there's a bigger problem with the icelandic
 translations; almost all recent translations are not merged
 into the actual/updated po file, they just lie in DL like
 sitting ducks along with the old po.
 
 That's because somebody has to commit them to GIT. According to
 http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/is it looks like you have nobody with GIT
 access...

Hmm??
Well, the coordinator should get one, isn't it?
 
 I've contacted the is-coordinator and filed a bug
 
 URL, please?

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594667

 
 but no-one
 seems to be able to push those translations.
 
 If there is a howto describing handling of translations in
 DamnedLies (for translators), I'd appreciate a link.
 
 There probably is something in
 http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/ .

Read, but not so clearly.
 
 andre

So, to push my translations into git, should I ask someone
to do it by sending a message to a) this list b) directly to
a person with git access c) file a bug ?

Thanks for your attention

Sveinn í Felli

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Re: Totem branched for 2.28

2009-09-30 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2009, 10:43 + schrieb Sveinn í Felli:
  That's because somebody has to commit them to GIT. According to
  http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/is it looks like you have nobody with GIT
  access...
 
 Hmm??
 Well, the coordinator should get one, isn't it?

I assume that the coordinator has applied for it (see
http://live.gnome.org/NewAccounts ) but not received it yet.
Don't know, your coordinator should know.

 So, to push my translations into git, should I ask someone
 to do it by sending a message to a) this list b) directly to
 a person with git access c) file a bug ?

a) or b). If a) please upload them to l10n.gnome.org and just send a
message here (after having received a comment in l10n.gnome.org that it
has been proofread).

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Re: Totem branched for 2.28

2009-09-30 Thread Anna Jonna Armannsdottir
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 12:05 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2009, 09:39 + schrieb Sveinn í Felli:
  Actually there's a bigger problem with the icelandic
  translations; almost all recent translations are not merged
  into the actual/updated po file, they just lie in DL like
  sitting ducks along with the old po.
 
 That's because somebody has to commit them to GIT. According to
 http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/is it looks like you have nobody with GIT
 access...
 
  I've contacted the is-coordinator and filed a bug
 
 URL, please?

Here is the bug url: 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594667 

The bug priority status has been raised to immediate. 

As stated in the bug; The team coordinator does not have 
GIT access to submit bugs. 
As tean coordinator I am still waiting for being granted 
rights to submit bugs into GIT. 
I have raised this issue a number of times with Gnome 
admins and hope that it will soon be solved. 


  but no-one
  seems to be able to push those translations.
 
  If there is a howto describing handling of translations in
  DamnedLies (for translators), I'd appreciate a link.
 
 There probably is something in
 http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/ .
 
 andre


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Access to accounts (was: Re: Totem branched for 2.28)

2009-09-30 Thread Anna Jonna Armannsdottir
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 13:04 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:

 I assume that the coordinator has applied for it (see
 http://live.gnome.org/NewAccounts ) but not received it yet.
 Don't know, your coordinator should know.


As coordinator, I applied for a new account a year ago. 
I have still not been able to actually access my account. 
Half a month ago I thought that a almost a year waiting 
should be enough waiting and applied for a new account. 
That application was rejected. 

Before I hand in my resignation as coordinator for the 
icelandic team, please tell me what are my options? 

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Re: Access to accounts (was: Re: Totem branched for 2.28)

2009-09-30 Thread Paul Cutler
According to Mango, you have Git access and your SSH key is present.  What
do you mean by you can't access your account?

Paul

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Anna Jonna Armannsdottir 
annajo...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 13:04 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:

 I assume that the coordinator has applied for it (see
 http://live.gnome.org/NewAccounts ) but not received it yet.
 Don't know, your coordinator should know.


 As coordinator, I applied for a new account a year ago.
 I have still not been able to actually access my account.
 Half a month ago I thought that a almost a year waiting
 should be enough waiting and applied for a new account.
 That application was rejected.

 Before I hand in my resignation as coordinator for the
 icelandic team, please tell me what are my options?

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Re: Access to accounts (was: Re: Totem branched for 2.28)

2009-09-30 Thread Anna Jonna Armannsdottir
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 09:22 -0500, Paul Cutler wrote:

 According to Mango, you have Git access and your SSH key is present.
 What do you mean by you can't access your account?


Dear Paul, 
it means that I can not log into my account and it seems that my
account 
is not recognized. 
Please point me to specific tests that I can perform 
so that we can isolate the problem. 

Already here authentication fails. 
https://mango.gnome.org/login.php 

What other tests will reveal important symptoms of the problem? 

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Re: Access to accounts (was: Re: Totem branched for 2.28)

2009-09-30 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Anna,

Mango is bascailly unrelated to Git.
Do the steps in http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/GitHowTo work
for you?
If not, exact error messages are highly welcome. :-)

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Re: Access to accounts (was: Re: Totem branched for 2.28)

2009-09-30 Thread Anna Jonna Armannsdottir
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 16:43 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:

 Hi Anna,
 
 Mango is bascailly unrelated to Git.

But I still need access to it. Who can help me fix it? 

 Do the steps in http://live.gnome.org/TranslationProject/GitHowTo work
 for you?

Now we are on the right track. I am debugging the login problem. 
Will send exact error message ASAP. 


 If not, exact error messages are highly welcome. :-)
 
 andre

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Re: Access to accounts (was: Re: Totem branched for 2.28)

2009-09-30 Thread Andre Klapper
(CC'ing gnome-i18n list again)

Paul, maybe you can take a look?


Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2009, 20:18 + schrieb Anna Jonna
Armannsdottir:
 On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:43 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
  Now I wonder if this works for you?:
  * git clone ssh://annajo...@git.gnome.org/git/devhelp
  * cd devhelp
  * (change one string in the is.po file)
  * git commit po/is.po -m Updated Islandic translation
  * git push
 
 My result: 
 an...@brick:/tmp/git$ git clone
 ssh://annajo...@git.gnome.org/git/devhelp 
 Initialized empty Git repository in /tmp/git/devhelp/.git/
 Permission denied (publickey).
 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
 an...@brick:/tmp/git$ ls -alrt
 total 16
 drwxrwxrwt 20 root  root  12288 2009-09-30 20:02 ..
 drwxr-xr-x  2 annaj annaj  4096 2009-09-30 20:11 .
 
 
 Is it possible to check my public key? 
 I suspect that it is broken or somehow distorted when 
 the account was created. 
 It is also possible that it is blacklisted because of the 
 openssh vulnerable key generation bug. 
 I really do not know, what the reason is, but it seems 
 that the key is most likely. 
 
 I feel that those tests are showing the way out of this. :) 
 
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Re: Access to accounts (was: Re: Totem branched for 2.28)

2009-09-30 Thread Paul Cutler
I checked earlier, and Anna does have a key present.

Email me your public key, preferably as an attachment (id_rsa.pub) and I can
update it in Mango.

Keys should be 2048-bit long and RSA version 2.  (See
http://live.gnome.org/UpdatingSSHKeys and
http://sysadmin.gnome.org/users/security.html)

Thanks.

Paul

Paul

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:

 (CC'ing gnome-i18n list again)

 Paul, maybe you can take a look?


 Am Mittwoch, den 30.09.2009, 20:18 + schrieb Anna Jonna
 Armannsdottir:
  On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:43 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
   Now I wonder if this works for you?:
   * git clone ssh://annajo...@git.gnome.org/git/devhelp
   * cd devhelp
   * (change one string in the is.po file)
   * git commit po/is.po -m Updated Islandic translation
   * git push
 
  My result:
  an...@brick:/tmp/git$ git clone
  ssh://annajo...@git.gnome.org/git/devhelp
  Initialized empty Git repository in /tmp/git/devhelp/.git/
  Permission denied (publickey).
  fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
  an...@brick:/tmp/git$ ls -alrt
  total 16
  drwxrwxrwt 20 root  root  12288 2009-09-30 20:02 ..
  drwxr-xr-x  2 annaj annaj  4096 2009-09-30 20:11 .
 
 
  Is it possible to check my public key?
  I suspect that it is broken or somehow distorted when
  the account was created.
  It is also possible that it is blacklisted because of the
  openssh vulnerable key generation bug.
  I really do not know, what the reason is, but it seems
  that the key is most likely.
 
  I feel that those tests are showing the way out of this. :)
 
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Re: Access to accounts (was: Re: Totem branched for 2.28)

2009-09-30 Thread Anna Jonna Armannsdottir
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 16:14 -0500, Paul Cutler wrote:

 Ok, this was probably the problem for both git access and Mango
 access.  Your old key was a DSA 1024-bit key.  I've disabled that key
 and enabled your new key.
 
 Let's hope it works!
 
 Paul


After the ssh key had been replaced, everything works as expected. :) 
Many thanks for all Your help. 


On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:43 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
Now I wonder if this works for you?:
 * git clone ssh://anaj...@git.gnome.org/git/devhelp
 * cd devhelp
 * (change one string in the is.po file)
 * git commit po/is.po -m Updated Islandic translation
 * git push

Now all those tests worked as expected. 
The most important test was the following: 

ssh -v myusern...@git.gnome.org

Many thanks for all Your help and Your patience to follow this through. 


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Re: Totem branched for 2.28

2009-09-28 Thread Gil Forcada
El dl 28 de 09 de 2009 a les 23:34 +0100, en/na Philip Withnall va
escriure:
 Hi all,
 
 Totem's been branched for 2.28 (on the gnome-2-28 branch) from a
 commit before I went and broke string freeze. Everything should be OK
 now.

Hi,

l10n.gnome.org updated!

 Note that I had to fiddle with the Plural-Forms headers in the
 Icelandic, Malay and Uighur translations before I could push the branch.
 Uighur in particular needs some attention, since I had to make up a
 plural form.

Did you filled bugs against those translations teams to let them know
about it?

Regards,

 Thanks,
 Philip
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Re: Totem branched for 2.28

2009-09-28 Thread Philip Withnall
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 00:36 +0200, Gil Forcada wrote:
 El dl 28 de 09 de 2009 a les 23:34 +0100, en/na Philip Withnall va
 escriure:
  Hi all,
  
  Totem's been branched for 2.28 (on the gnome-2-28 branch) from a
  commit before I went and broke string freeze. Everything should be OK
  now.
 
 Hi,
 
 l10n.gnome.org updated!
 
  Note that I had to fiddle with the Plural-Forms headers in the
  Icelandic, Malay and Uighur translations before I could push the branch.
  Uighur in particular needs some attention, since I had to make up a
  plural form.
 
 Did you filled bugs against those translations teams to let them know
 about it?

I don't think the Icelandic or Malay problems need bugs filing, since I
was able to copy their Plural-Forms header from other .po files/Damned
Lies, so it should be correct. Any affected plural strings I've marked
as fuzzy.

I would like to file a bug against the Uighur (ug) translation, but it
doesn't have a component under l10n on b.g.o. :-\

Philip

 Regards,
 
  Thanks,
  Philip
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