Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel user menu

2012-09-14 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 9 September 2012 09:57, Gil Forcada gforc...@gnome.org wrote:
 El dg 09 de 09 de 2012 a les 08:45 -0400, en/na Jeremy Bicha va
 escriure:
 Hi,

 I'd like to request a string freeze exception for gnome-panel to bring
 the user menu more in line with the GNOME Shell 3.6 user menu.

 http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=223834

 Specifically, the patch removes the ellipses and changes Shut Down
 to Power Off.

 Thanks,
 Jeremy

 i18n approval 1 of 2. Just two really small strings is not a difficult
 task to do and it's still early on the freeze :)

Hi, I'm just waiting on a second i18n approval to commit this.

Thanks,
Jeremy
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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel user menu

2012-09-14 Thread Gabor Kelemen

2012-09-14 14:46 keltezéssel, Jeremy Bicha írta:

On 9 September 2012 09:57, Gil Forcada gforc...@gnome.org wrote:

El dg 09 de 09 de 2012 a les 08:45 -0400, en/na Jeremy Bicha va
escriure:

Hi,

I'd like to request a string freeze exception for gnome-panel to bring
the user menu more in line with the GNOME Shell 3.6 user menu.

http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=223834

Specifically, the patch removes the ellipses and changes Shut Down
to Power Off.

Thanks,
Jeremy


i18n approval 1 of 2. Just two really small strings is not a difficult
task to do and it's still early on the freeze :)


Hi, I'm just waiting on a second i18n approval to commit this.



i18n approval 2/2

Regards
Gabor Kelemen
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String freeze break request for gnome-panel user menu

2012-09-09 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Hi,

I'd like to request a string freeze exception for gnome-panel to bring
the user menu more in line with the GNOME Shell 3.6 user menu.

http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=223834

Specifically, the patch removes the ellipses and changes Shut Down
to Power Off.

Thanks,
Jeremy
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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel user menu

2012-09-09 Thread Gil Forcada
El dg 09 de 09 de 2012 a les 08:45 -0400, en/na Jeremy Bicha va
escriure:
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to request a string freeze exception for gnome-panel to bring
 the user menu more in line with the GNOME Shell 3.6 user menu.
 
 http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=223834
 
 Specifically, the patch removes the ellipses and changes Shut Down
 to Power Off.
 
 Thanks,
 Jeremy

i18n approval 1 of 2. Just two really small strings is not a difficult
task to do and it's still early on the freeze :)

docs team and r-t should have their voting too though.

Cheers,
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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel user menu

2012-09-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 08:45 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to request a string freeze exception for gnome-panel to bring
 the user menu more in line with the GNOME Shell 3.6 user menu.
 
 http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=223834
 
 Specifically, the patch removes the ellipses and changes Shut Down
 to Power Off.

If it's exactly in line, that should be trivial for translators.

RT 1/2


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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel user menu

2012-09-09 Thread Javier Jardón
On 9 September 2012 23:24, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 08:45 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
 Hi,

 I'd like to request a string freeze exception for gnome-panel to bring
 the user menu more in line with the GNOME Shell 3.6 user menu.

 http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=223834

 Specifically, the patch removes the ellipses and changes Shut Down
 to Power Off.

 If it's exactly in line, that should be trivial for translators.

 RT 1/2

go for it, 2/2 for release team


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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel user menu

2012-09-09 Thread Shaun McCance
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 15:57 +0200, Gil Forcada wrote:
 El dg 09 de 09 de 2012 a les 08:45 -0400, en/na Jeremy Bicha va
 escriure:
  Hi,
  
  I'd like to request a string freeze exception for gnome-panel to bring
  the user menu more in line with the GNOME Shell 3.6 user menu.
  
  http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=223834
  
  Specifically, the patch removes the ellipses and changes Shut Down
  to Power Off.
  
  Thanks,
  Jeremy
 
 i18n approval 1 of 2. Just two really small strings is not a difficult
 task to do and it's still early on the freeze :)
 
 docs team and r-t should have their voting too though.

No problem for docs. We haven't really documented fallback mode
extensively, so the closer it matches GNOME Shell, the better.

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel

2011-04-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 31 mars 2011, à 16:13 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 I know this is again a last-minute change, and it's asking a lot from
 translators, but this will make a real difference by really having a
 fallback experience much closer to the gnome-shell one.

I hate pushing too hard on this, but I'd really love to do a .94 tarball
very soon so that people can try the changes.

Any +1/-1 from the l10n team?

Vincent

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel

2011-04-01 Thread Claude Paroz
Le vendredi 01 avril 2011 à 09:11 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 Le jeudi 31 mars 2011, à 16:13 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
  I know this is again a last-minute change, and it's asking a lot from
  translators, but this will make a real difference by really having a
  fallback experience much closer to the gnome-shell one.
 
 I hate pushing too hard on this, but I'd really love to do a .94 tarball
 very soon so that people can try the changes.
 
 Any +1/-1 from the l10n team?

+1 from me (fan of fallback mode :-) )

Claude

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel

2011-04-01 Thread Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 01 avril 2011, à 11:42 +0200, Gabor Kelemen a écrit :
 2011-04-01 09:22 keltezéssel, Claude Paroz írta:
 Le vendredi 01 avril 2011 à 09:11 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 Le jeudi 31 mars 2011, à 16:13 +0200, Vincent Untz a écrit :
 I know this is again a last-minute change, and it's asking a lot from
 translators, but this will make a real difference by really having a
 fallback experience much closer to the gnome-shell one.
 I hate pushing too hard on this, but I'd really love to do a .94 tarball
 very soon so that people can try the changes.
 
 Any +1/-1 from the l10n team?
 +1 from me (fan of fallback mode :-) )
 
 Claude
 
 2/2, but promise that this is the last break :).

Thanks. Yeah, this is the last break for gnome-panel. Hopefull ;-) (Nah,
kidding, there's no more gnome-panel string freeze break planned for
3.0).

Vincent

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel

2011-03-31 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote:
 Hi translators,

 To make the fallback mode look much closer to gnome-shell, I'd like to
 merge a new user menu in gnome-panel. As mentioned previously, there are
 strings I can reuse from gnome-shell, and I already have a script to add
 those translations to the gnome-panel po files. But I hadn't realized
 there are two new strings (for the addto dialog).

 The two new strings are:
  User Menu
  Menu to change your settings and your online status
 They are only visible in the addto dialog, hidden between many other
 strings.

 The strings I'll import from gnome-shell are:
  Available
  Busy
  Switch User
  My Account
 Those are quite visible, but on the other hand, if they're not
 translated in gnome-shell, then it won't be worse in gnome-panel.

 I know this is again a last-minute change, and it's asking a lot from
 translators, but this will make a real difference by really having a
 fallback experience much closer to the gnome-shell one.


Here is the command I just used to pull existing translations from the shell.
Maybe you can do the equivalent for those strings.

for l in `cat ~/gnome-3.0/checkoutroot/gnome-shell/po/LINGUAS`; do
export LANGUAGE=$l; text=`gettext 'gnome-shell' 'firmware missing'`;
^Cho -e \nmsgid \Firmware missing\\nmsgstr \$text\\n  $l.po;
done
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String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi there,

Over the past week, I've worked on the panel to make sure the fallback
mode would be a bit more maintainable in 3.x. This includes a port to
GSettings, and more (see below).

Also a bit of a warning: fredp wants me to finish the minimize
difference between fallback  shell bug, which possibly means a few
other strings (that are all in gnome-shell, in the user menu). But I
don't want to block things on this.

For translators, the impact is:
 + 13 fuzzy strings
 + 4 new strings

Of those 17 strings, 15 are in schemas (so really not visible, except in
dconf-editor; and l10n.gnome.org has magic to let you ignore those), and
2 are error messages displayed in extremely unlikely cases:
 Cannot create initial panel layout.\n
 Launcher location is not set, cannot load launcher\n

The rationale for the (admittedly way too late) change is that
gnome-panel has a strong compatibility story in general (2.32.x can load
a 2.0.x configuration), and this comes with a price, given the way the
panel is configurable. So for 3.0, we don't want to have to deal with
gconf configuration; which means the port to GSettings is quite
important.

The other important changes in the branch I have are the following (they
do not impact translations):
  - Remove popup menu for items in applications menu
  - Remove drawers
  - Remove compatibility with 2.x configuration
  - Start 3.0 panel with brand new configuration
  - Drop per-applet Lock setting
  - Support 3.0 lockdown settings
  - Correctly display Lock screen menu item
  - Make it easy for applets to store their settings in GSettings

It's all in
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-panel/log/?h=wip/3.0-freeze-break

(I didn't cc gnome-doc-list, btw, based on feedback from Shaun)

Again, this all happens way too late and I'm very well aware of that.
But I think this is all important for the 3.0 fallback story.

Is release team happy with merging those changes?

Vincent

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Frederic Peters
Vincent Untz wrote:

 Over the past week, I've worked on the panel to make sure the fallback
 mode would be a bit more maintainable in 3.x. This includes a port to
 GSettings, and more (see below).

I have been running that branch a little bit this afternoon, it works
well and looks like a very useful cleanup, I still have high hopes you
will manage the final bits to make it more similar to the shell layout
(centering the clock mostly).

1 of 2 from me.


Frederic
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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

 Also a bit of a warning: fredp wants me to finish the minimize
 difference between fallback  shell bug, which possibly means a few
 other strings (that are all in gnome-shell, in the user menu). But I
 don't want to block things on this.

Vincent agreed to do the magic to reuse the strings already translated
for gnome-shell to reduce the load on translators.

 Of those 17 strings, 15 are in schemas (so really not visible, except in
 dconf-editor; and l10n.gnome.org has magic to let you ignore those), and
 2 are error messages displayed in extremely unlikely cases:
  Cannot create initial panel layout.\n
  Launcher location is not set, cannot load launcher\n

Those are displayed in the UI, right? Because otherwise we more or less
agreed to not translate messages that are thrown to the command-line
(using g_warning/error) as it makes it more difficult to debug things.

 Again, this all happens way too late and I'm very well aware of that.
 But I think this is all important for the 3.0 fallback story.
 
 Is release team happy with merging those changes?

Overall this is considerable really late but I assume that the
release-team has great interest in releasing with a 3.0 panel and as
such I won't be in that way. Basically we are talking about 2 UI strings
which should be doable in about a week (and even those are very unlikely
to ever appear).

So 1 of 2 from i18n.

Regards,
Johannes


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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 28 mars 2011, à 19:35 +0200, Johannes Schmid a écrit :
 
  Of those 17 strings, 15 are in schemas (so really not visible, except in
  dconf-editor; and l10n.gnome.org has magic to let you ignore those), and
  2 are error messages displayed in extremely unlikely cases:
   Cannot create initial panel layout.\n
   Launcher location is not set, cannot load launcher\n
 
 Those are displayed in the UI, right? Because otherwise we more or less
 agreed to not translate messages that are thrown to the command-line
 (using g_warning/error) as it makes it more difficult to debug things.

Hrm, they are from g_printerr(). If the right thing to do is to not mark
them for translations, then I can do this and that would only leave the
schemas-related strings.

Cheers,

Vincent

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-panel ( big code freeze break)

2011-03-28 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 13:32 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote:
  Vincent Untz wrote:
 
  Over the past week, I've worked on the panel to make sure the fallback
  mode would be a bit more maintainable in 3.x. This includes a port to
  GSettings, and more (see below).
 
  I have been running that branch a little bit this afternoon, it works
  well and looks like a very useful cleanup, I still have high hopes you
  will manage the final bits to make it more similar to the shell layout
  (centering the clock mostly).
 
  1 of 2 from me.
 
 2/2.

r-t approval 3 out of 2.

Break everything you can, baby (or maybe... not)!

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