Re: future of gnome-pilot, or lack of it
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 15:34 +0100, Matt Davey wrote: > Dear all, > > I am no longer in a position to be able to develop and test gnome-pilot, > as I am no longer using a PalmOS PDA. My last working device was an old > PalmV, which continued to limp on after my Clie and Tungsten had packed > up. > > Based on the activity on this list, and email correspondence, the number > of users is now very low, and I suspect the people typically interested > in contributing code have moved on to newer, shinier devices. > > If there are developers tuned in who are willing to contribute code, > please get in contact. Otherwise, I'm likely to announce end of life > for gnome-pilot. > > Matt Hi Matt, As a former Palm user, I would like to thank you for your continued diligence and effort on behalf of those who had the devices but not the developing skills. Back when Palm made the decision which later proved fatal to their business, I wrote to Palm on many occasions, begging them to abandon the MS solution and embrace Linux as the basis for their new OS. They could have written it in those days so that OpenOffice.org (OOo) would synch with the Palm. This would have introduced the largest user base of any PDA manufacturer to OOo and struck fear into the heart of MS, as it was Docs2Go for Palm assisted MS. But a pure synch with OOo products would have been a game changer. With the Treo Palm lost a lot of their user base, people retained their excellent Palm devices and avoided the power hungry Windows Mobile OS in their millions. MS was the end of Palm and even when they developed the WebOS it was too little - too late, and HP have been unsuccessful in resurrecting it. I have moved on from Palm. I threw my LifeDrive in the bin the other day, the pain was real, but bearable. I have been using Android for 3 years now. MS looks like it will be the kiss of death for Nokia and at last Windows is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Pundits have been saying that the integration of MS Office into the Windows phone platform will give them an increasing share of the Mobile Market. But my view is that businesses which needed a business device in the past used Blackberry, but even Blackberry is slipping. Android is rising, iPhone is returning to the clutches of Fanbois, and the unaligned Apple users, the agnostics as it were, will gradually move to Android because the Telcos can subsidise Android phones but Apple gives them no room to bargain. So it was good while it lasted. And again, thank-you, thank-you, thank-you for a job well done for a long time. Andrew Greig Melbourne, Australia ___ gnome-pilot-list mailing list gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list
Re: future of gnome-pilot, or lack of it
I had actually asked on the SyncEvolution mailing list how to sync and since my m130 doesn't have network capability (serial or usb only), I would have to pay for software to enable faking it being a network device in order for SyncEvolution to work. As for Evolution and J-Pilot, it's strictly a J-Pilot -> Evolution sync. Maybe somebody else can sync the other way. From J-Pilot, you can export calendars in 'iCalendar' format and address books in 'vCard (Optimized for GMail/Android Import)' format (Evolution doesn't recognize J-Pilot's 'vCard' export, has to be the optimized one). On the Evolution side, you do an import. In the case of the calendar appointments, it looks like you can import the entire file and Evolution will only add new appointments (won't add appointments that already exist -- don't know if it deletes appointments that changed, but I would think not). For the address book, I delete all the contacts before importing so as to not double up. Adam > Hi Hugh, > > I used to use J-Pilot and I could resort to it again. > > How do you import/export from/into Evolution ? > > I'm trying to get SyncEvolution to work with my Pre+ (yes, you can point > out my stubbornness with defunct Palm) , that's why I want to keep my > synchronization with Evolution of my old Centro. > > Thanks for any help you can provide. > > Sincerely, > > --Marc > > Le mardi 24 juillet 2012 à 14:32 -0400, a...@csh.rit.edu a écrit : > >> Don't know about anybody else, but I recently switched from gnome-pilot >> to >> J-Pilot. The only reason is that Evolution stopped supporting >> gnome-pilot. At least with J-Pilot, I can sync with that, export, and >> import into Evolution. Not as nice as when Evolution could use >> gnome-pilot directly, but I can't afford something new and my Palm m130 >> still works perfectly. >> >> I'm guessing gnome-pilot usage will drop (or has dropped) somewhat for >> the >> same reason about Evolution that caused me to switch. >> >> > Why don't you guys use J-Pilot? >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> From: Matt Davey >> >>To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org >> >>Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 15:34 >> >>Subject: future of gnome-pilot, or lack of it >> >> >> >>Dear all, >> >> >> >>I am no longer in a position to be able to develop and test >> gnome-pilot, >> >>as I am no longer using a PalmOS PDA. My last working device was an >> old >> >>PalmV, which continued to limp on after my Clie and Tungsten had >> packed >> >>up. >> >> >> >>Based on the activity on this list, and email correspondence, the >> number >> >>of users is now very low, and I suspect the people typically >> interested >> >>in contributing code have moved on to newer, shinier devices. >> >> >> >>If there are developers tuned in who are willing to contribute code, >> >>please get in contact. Otherwise, I'm likely to announce end of life >> >>for gnome-pilot. >> >> >> >>Matt >> >>-- >> >>Matt Davey If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. >> >>mcda...@mrao.cam.ac.uk -- Derek Bok >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>___ >> >>gnome-pilot-list mailing list >> >>gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org >> >>https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list >> >> >> >> >> >>___ >> > gnome-pilot-list mailing list >> > gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list >> > >> >> >> ___ >> gnome-pilot-list mailing list >> gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list > > > ___ > gnome-pilot-list mailing list > gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list > ___ gnome-pilot-list mailing list gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list
Re: future of gnome-pilot, or lack of it
Hi Hugh, I used to use J-Pilot and I could resort to it again. How do you import/export from/into Evolution ? I'm trying to get SyncEvolution to work with my Pre+ (yes, you can point out my stubbornness with defunct Palm) , that's why I want to keep my synchronization with Evolution of my old Centro. Thanks for any help you can provide. Sincerely, --Marc Le mardi 24 juillet 2012 à 14:32 -0400, a...@csh.rit.edu a écrit : > Don't know about anybody else, but I recently switched from gnome-pilot to > J-Pilot. The only reason is that Evolution stopped supporting > gnome-pilot. At least with J-Pilot, I can sync with that, export, and > import into Evolution. Not as nice as when Evolution could use > gnome-pilot directly, but I can't afford something new and my Palm m130 > still works perfectly. > > I'm guessing gnome-pilot usage will drop (or has dropped) somewhat for the > same reason about Evolution that caused me to switch. > > > Why don't you guys use J-Pilot? > > > > > > > >> > >> From: Matt Davey > >>To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org > >>Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 15:34 > >>Subject: future of gnome-pilot, or lack of it > >> > >>Dear all, > >> > >>I am no longer in a position to be able to develop and test gnome-pilot, > >>as I am no longer using a PalmOS PDA. My last working device was an old > >>PalmV, which continued to limp on after my Clie and Tungsten had packed > >>up. > >> > >>Based on the activity on this list, and email correspondence, the number > >>of users is now very low, and I suspect the people typically interested > >>in contributing code have moved on to newer, shinier devices. > >> > >>If there are developers tuned in who are willing to contribute code, > >>please get in contact. Otherwise, I'm likely to announce end of life > >>for gnome-pilot. > >> > >>Matt > >>-- > >>Matt Davey If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. > >>mcda...@mrao.cam.ac.uk -- Derek Bok > >> > >> > >> > >>___ > >>gnome-pilot-list mailing list > >>gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org > >>https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list > >> > >> > >>___ > > gnome-pilot-list mailing list > > gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list > > > > > ___ > gnome-pilot-list mailing list > gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list ___ gnome-pilot-list mailing list gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list
Re: future of gnome-pilot, or lack of it
Don't know about anybody else, but I recently switched from gnome-pilot to J-Pilot. The only reason is that Evolution stopped supporting gnome-pilot. At least with J-Pilot, I can sync with that, export, and import into Evolution. Not as nice as when Evolution could use gnome-pilot directly, but I can't afford something new and my Palm m130 still works perfectly. I'm guessing gnome-pilot usage will drop (or has dropped) somewhat for the same reason about Evolution that caused me to switch. > Why don't you guys use J-Pilot? > > > >> >> From: Matt Davey >>To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org >>Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 15:34 >>Subject: future of gnome-pilot, or lack of it >> >>Dear all, >> >>I am no longer in a position to be able to develop and test gnome-pilot, >>as I am no longer using a PalmOS PDA. My last working device was an old >>PalmV, which continued to limp on after my Clie and Tungsten had packed >>up. >> >>Based on the activity on this list, and email correspondence, the number >>of users is now very low, and I suspect the people typically interested >>in contributing code have moved on to newer, shinier devices. >> >>If there are developers tuned in who are willing to contribute code, >>please get in contact. Otherwise, I'm likely to announce end of life >>for gnome-pilot. >> >>Matt >>-- >>Matt Davey If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. >>mcda...@mrao.cam.ac.uk -- Derek Bok >> >> >> >>___ >>gnome-pilot-list mailing list >>gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org >>https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list >> >> >>___ > gnome-pilot-list mailing list > gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list > ___ gnome-pilot-list mailing list gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list
Re: future of gnome-pilot, or lack of it
Why don't you guys use J-Pilot? > > From: Matt Davey >To: gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org >Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 15:34 >Subject: future of gnome-pilot, or lack of it > >Dear all, > >I am no longer in a position to be able to develop and test gnome-pilot, >as I am no longer using a PalmOS PDA. My last working device was an old >PalmV, which continued to limp on after my Clie and Tungsten had packed >up. > >Based on the activity on this list, and email correspondence, the number >of users is now very low, and I suspect the people typically interested >in contributing code have moved on to newer, shinier devices. > >If there are developers tuned in who are willing to contribute code, >please get in contact. Otherwise, I'm likely to announce end of life >for gnome-pilot. > >Matt >-- >Matt Davey If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. >mcda...@mrao.cam.ac.uk -- Derek Bok > > > >___ >gnome-pilot-list mailing list >gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org >https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list > > >___ gnome-pilot-list mailing list gnome-pilot-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-pilot-list