Re: Thumbs up!
Configuration options to configure (switch off) all major animations. Then it would be easy to experiment with a new gnome-shell fallback mode. Yes, the animations are well thought out and support the shell experience, but for some of us (old hardware, e.g. mac mini 2, high resolution) they are just destroying it. Juergen On 04/26/2011 10:06 AM, David Prieto wrote: Bojan, Taskbar (i.e. Gnome 2) is not the only way to manage currently running windows. See Mac OS X and Windows 7. What are the others? Surely not alt+tab, since Gnome-shell also has that one. Animation? I already know where my windows are. Why do I need animation to show me where they went if they didn't move? Hint: they _did_ move. Also note that they changed size in exposé. When I say that it "doesn't" I mean that it "doesn't shuffle the windows" (which is the expression you used later on), as in "it doesn't place them randomly on the screen". If your problem is that it doesn't keep them in the exact same place they were, well, yes, that's the way it works. Can't see how that's a problem, though. Please, you said it yourself: animation shows me where they went. If they went, how can they be in the same place? So it's not really a problem but rather you wanting to have the last word? Is it a semantics thing? By closing their eyes, I guess :-) Or just... you know, ignoring it. Really, I open new apps all the time and I don't even pay attention to the Overview. It's not like I go all "whoah man, what was that? did I just enter hyperspace?" everytime you launch an app. It's not even like you have to make a conscious effort not to notice it, just... don't pay attention to it. Honestly, I'm not sure what your point is or where to go from here. Why do I need to go to the overview *to see where my apps* are? I can see them right now in Gnome 2 and I don't have to lift a finger. And that's for all workspaces. As I said, you don't even need to "see where your apps are" anymore. Yes, dash. And who says dash (dock, favourites, whatever) should be at the bottom like in OS X? Would you put it at the top, then? You know you can actually propose things, right? Well, if I want to go to the notifications in normal view, I need to go to the bottom right. All other notifications are on the top right. So, yeah, I need to walk to different places. All notifications are at the bottom right. System icons are at the top right. Having them mixed in the old Notification Area was an old nuisance and I for one I'm glad to have lost it. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: A few comments regarding Gnome-shell
On 03/07/2011 10:52 AM, David Prieto wrote: - After working for some time with Ubuntu's Unity, there was one thing I really liked: having the current window's menubar integrated in the top panel. What is the opinion of the Gnome team regarding this? It does save some space, make windows look cleaner and gives some use to the top panel, which right now looks underused to me. Have you discussed this already? I do not comprehend the advantages of the menu on top approach (apple approach). With high resolution, big screens and several (not maximised) windows, the distance i have to move the mouse grows much higher. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Window controls for GNOME 3
Hi! * To hide a window in which a background task is ongoing. Minimizing the window allows the user to monitor the progress in the window list button (assuming progress is shown in the title bar, which ought to be the case), and to be alerted when the task has either finished or encountered a problem (when the window list button flashes), without being distracted by the window itself. Which is clearly what notification are for and not the window title. I think this case is solved in a much nicer way in the shell than it was before. Might be that some applications need updates though. How would an application show the continuous progress of a background task using notifications, or the messaging tray in general? I don't see anything in the shell design docs that suggest that would be a good way to do it. (I guess you could show a progress bar or something when you roll over a notification icon, but that's not very helpful.) Well, IMHO I want to be alerted mostly when it finishes or when it has a problem and that's what notification are for. If I want to know the exact progress, that's an active action where I can look into the window or check the message tray. I agree. As for progress: a message tray icon that subsumes longrunning 'progress' (file) operations (copy, move, delete, download; maybe update, install, for packages/applications; ...) with ability to cancel, pause, restart? Wasn't this planned anyway? ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Gnome-Shell Progress
I normally work with ~10 vdesktops, and i find it easy to recognize the correct one by the layout of windows on it. So for me its not about switching to the previous or next vdesktop but to easily decide if i have to jump 3 or 4 vdesktops up or down. Would be interesting though how many vdesktops arbitrary users have during typical work sessions. eTM On 03/04/2011 03:15 AM, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy wrote: On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Juergen Mangler wrote: * Changing between desktops with keyboard shortcut (CTRL-ALT-[UP,DOWN]) should show preview of virtual desktops (as in overview mode) instead of just symbolic icons with arrows in it. I thought of this too but is it necessary? You would see current workspace in full screen already behind the array of workspace boxes plus arrow. If you want to see what's in next workspace, C-A- to see it. If you want to linger, better go with overlay view. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
