Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Blender, SuperTuxKart and The Battle for Wesnoth.

2017-08-28 Thread Isaac David

Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote :

Indeed, you are right, it doesn't say that. If we take this case as it
is (and put the campaigns' issue aside), then it can be assumed to be
OK.

However, I think we shouldn't be making these assumptions, it would be
best to have this ambiguity clarified.


i wouldn't call it an ambiguity; but indeed, having some
confirmation for this interpretation wouldn't be bad.






Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Blender, SuperTuxKart and The Battle for Wesnoth.

2017-08-27 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Indeed, you are right, it doesn't say that. If we take this case as it
is (and put the campaigns' issue aside), then it can be assumed to be
OK.

However, I think we shouldn't be making these assumptions, it would be
best to have this ambiguity clarified.



Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Blender, SuperTuxKart and The Battle for Wesnoth.

2017-08-22 Thread ng0
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> Adonay Felipe Nogueira :
> > Besides, from the second quote from the GNU FSDG, the new licensing
> > rules in Battle for Wesnoth's add-ons repository would allow licenses
> > that forbid sharing and selling original copies.
> 
> let's sidetrack campaign logic for a moment and focus on
> incontrovertibly non-fuctional add-ons whose license forbids
> commercial distribution...
> 
> if they aren't part of the distribution and the program simply
> recommends them, do they violate the GNU FSDG? the provision for
> nonfree recommendations does not say a thing about non-functional
> stuff:
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html#documentation
> 
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> Isaac David
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They seem to be fun to deal with. Not.
https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/1897
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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Blender, SuperTuxKart and The Battle for Wesnoth.

2017-08-22 Thread Isaac David

Adonay Felipe Nogueira :
Besides, from the second quote from the GNU FSDG, the new licensing 
rules in Battle for Wesnoth's add-ons repository would allow licenses 
that forbid sharing and selling original copies.


let's sidetrack campaign logic for a moment and focus on
incontrovertibly non-fuctional add-ons whose license forbids
commercial distribution...

if they aren't part of the distribution and the program simply
recommends them, do they violate the GNU FSDG? the provision for
nonfree recommendations does not say a thing about non-functional
stuff:

https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html#documentation

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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Blender, SuperTuxKart and The Battle for Wesnoth.

2017-08-13 Thread Julie Marchant
No, the thread announcing the allowance of cc licenses. It very clearly says 
that code is still required to be gpl.

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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Blender, SuperTuxKart and The Battle for Wesnoth.

2017-08-13 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
If you are refering to the thread I posted in this list, then I would
like to cite myself:

#+BEGIN_QUOTE

The rule of not referencing to third-party repositories commited to the
GNU FSDG, however, seens to only apply to functional/practical
data/works.

#+END_QUOTE

... So far, we are in agreement that it only seemed to affect
non-functional/practical data/works.

However, I continued:

#+BEGIN_QUOTE

Furthermore, the GNU FSDG mentions, in the section about non-functional
data
([[https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.en.html#non-functional-data]]):

[...]

So far, I have made some basic empirical observation how Battle for
Wesnoth's campaigns work, and I found structures that look similar to
scripts because some of the campaigns' files have "[if]", "[or]" and
"[else]" statements.

Besides, from the second quote from the GNU FSDG, the new licensing
rules in Battle for Wesnoth's add-ons repository would allow licenses
that forbid sharing and selling original copies.

#+END_QUOTE

That said, I *do* recognize that I failed to explicitly say that the
user-made content repository includes campaigns.

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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Blender, SuperTuxKart and The Battle for Wesnoth.

2017-08-13 Thread Julie Marchant
The wesnoth thread specifically says only images and sound files.

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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Blender, SuperTuxKart and The Battle for Wesnoth.

2017-08-13 Thread Isaac David

Julie Marchant :
Everything you're making a big deal out of has to do with art, not 
code.


maybe not quite everything (at least not in considering the
[second thread]). my first impression is that Metasploit is a
problem for FSDG-compliant distros.

Adonay Felipe made the case yesterday that [Battle of Wesnoth]
addons may contain computer programs (even if only of
entertainment value), e.g. in the form of game campaign logic.

[second thread]:
https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2017-08/msg00046.html
[Battle of Wesnoth]:
https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2017-08/msg00043.html

just a friendly clarification for OP and everyone else, because I saw
Parabola mentioned in the subject line: that distro has more stringent
a policy regarding artwork than GNU asks for, so discussion of such
issues should stay within Parabola.

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