Re: Intellectual Property II

2006-02-08 Thread Alexander Terekhov
German GNUtian dak didn't answer yes or no question regarding 
Welte attorneys (the gang at ifross) wild fantasies that the GPL 
is a contract coupled with AGB based on German concept of 
conditions subsequent.

David Kastrup wrote:
 
 Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  David Kastrup wrote:
  [...]
  If it is from September 2004 and has not been overruled since then, it
 
  Sitecom didn't bothered. So what?
 
 If the issue would have been unimportant to them, they'd have ceded
 without waiting for an injunction, wouldn't they?

http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/resources/feedback/OIIFB_GPL2_20040903.pdf

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The defendant argued: The temporary injunction should be lifted 
because the defendant is not liable to be sued. The plaintiff has 
no right to sue him.. The defendant is not concerned with the 
distribution and/or duplication and/or making public the software 
!netfilter/iptables. He, the defendant, is a pure support company, 
and is not concerned with selling, reproducing, or making available 
the software. He has never undertaken these activities and will 
not do so. It has previously been pointed out to the plaintiff that 
selling, reproducing and making available software are not 
undertaken by the defendant but by the company S[itecom] Europe BV. 
Furthermore, there was a notification that the web site had already 
been amended. It is obvious that the company [Sitecom] Europe BV 
was to clarify the matter and the matter would be clarified by it. 
There is therefore no reason to grant preliminary 
remedies.
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regards,
alexander.
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Re: Intellectual Property II

2006-02-08 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Hey dak, have some fun. The gang at ifross in action.

http://www.heise.de/ct/06/04/046/

For English-only readers:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_entrurl=http://www.heise.de/ct/06/04/046/

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GPLv3 - Legislation in contract form

[...]

Penetration in danger?

More serious the planned change of number 4 could affect itself. The 
present regulation in the GPL 2 plans that with an injury of the 
license obligations automatically all granted rights by the GPL are 
omitted, so that the GPL violator stands there as usual robbery 
copiers. This strict regulation, which worked already several times 
in Germany for the penetration of the GPL, is to be replaced by a 
right to give notice, which presupposes a previous notification of 
the violator. With the fact one would like to prevent that a user 
loses rights to use immediately with unintentional license injuries 
its.

Background of this change is the view of the FSF that under US right 
of the changes to a GPL conformal use the GPL injury cannot heal, but 
the fact that each holder of a right must grant explicitly a new 
license to the violator - which with a multiplicity of authors is 
hardly feasible[6]. Under German right this opinion will not 
represent, so that a in this country attenuation of the license 
threatens. 
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Alarm! Alarm! Alarm!

regards,
alexander.

Alexander Terekhov wrote:
 
 German GNUtian dak didn't answer yes or no question regarding
 Welte attorneys (the gang at ifross) wild fantasies that the GPL
 is a contract coupled with AGB based on German concept of
 conditions subsequent.
 
 David Kastrup wrote:
 
  Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   David Kastrup wrote:
   [...]
   If it is from September 2004 and has not been overruled since then, it
  
   Sitecom didn't bothered. So what?
 
  If the issue would have been unimportant to them, they'd have ceded
  without waiting for an injunction, wouldn't they?
 
 http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/resources/feedback/OIIFB_GPL2_20040903.pdf
 
 -
 The defendant argued: The temporary injunction should be lifted
 because the defendant is not liable to be sued. The plaintiff has
 no right to sue him.. The defendant is not concerned with the
 distribution and/or duplication and/or making public the software
 !netfilter/iptables. He, the defendant, is a pure support company,
 and is not concerned with selling, reproducing, or making available
 the software. He has never undertaken these activities and will
 not do so. It has previously been pointed out to the plaintiff that
 selling, reproducing and making available software are not
 undertaken by the defendant but by the company S[itecom] Europe BV.
 Furthermore, there was a notification that the web site had already
 been amended. It is obvious that the company [Sitecom] Europe BV
 was to clarify the matter and the matter would be clarified by it.
 There is therefore no reason to grant preliminary
 remedies.
 -
 
 regards,
 alexander.
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