NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 15 December 2010 NYLUG: D. Levin, M. Russell, R. Salazar, Ubuntu, and Pizza, at Party

2010-12-13 Thread secretary

  
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 To: NYLUG Announcements 
 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:45:02 -0500 (EST)
 Subject: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Presents: 12/15 @ 6:30PM David Levin, Mark 
Russell, and Roberto Salazar On Ubuntu Advantage & The 2010 NYLUG Holiday Party
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 Wednesday, December 15, 2010
 6:30 PM - 8:00 PM
 IBM
 590 Madison Ave, 12th Floor
 corner of 57th Street

 *** RSVP Closes at 4:30 PM the day of the meeting (sharp!) ***
 Please RSVP for EVERY meeting at this time.
 Register at http://rsvp.nylug.org/
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 David Levin, Mark Russell, and Roberto Salazar
- on -
Ubuntu Advantage & The 2010 NYLUG Holiday Party
   

 Please join us for a NYLUG traditional December Pizza meeting, this year
 sponsored by Canonical.  David Levin, Mark Russell, and (hopefully) Roberto
 Salazar will join us for a short talk about Ubuntu Advantage, and then will
 be available during the party to answer questions about Canonical and
 Ubuntu. 

 Please advise us at i...@nylug.org if cheese or sugar are a problem for you
 so that we can provide enough alternatives.  

 More information:

   * Canonical
 http://www.canonical.com/

   * Ubuntu Advantage
 http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/

   * Ubuntu Cloud
 http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud

   * Getting Started with Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud
 http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC

 About Canonical:
 Canonical was founded by Mark Shuttleworth as part of his original vision
 to create software platforms that compete with the best but are free to
 use, share and develop.  Canonical's platform team leads the Ubuntu project
 and brings together the passion and genius of the open-source community.  

 About David Levin:
 David Levin works in Corporate Services at Canonical, and Tweets @ dslevin.
  He fondly remembers building CP/M systems from junked machnines to put
 himself through college.  As part of his mission to bring Ubuntu Linux to
 business, he's looking for companies looking to deploy cloud apps.  If
 that's you, you should contact him! David has also joined the ranks of
 those building our local Linux/FLOSS community here in New York.  

 About Mark Russell:
 Mark Russell is a system engineer working at Canonical, supporting major
 customers using Ubuntu Desktop and Server, Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud, and
 Landscape Server.  Before jumping into Linux support full-time with Novell
 a few years ago, he spent 10 years in the IT trenches, supporting a bit of
 everything, including some less than open platforms.  However, he has found
 true FOSS bliss in the Ubuntu community and will never go back to the dark
 side.  

 About Roberto Salazar:
 Roberto Salazar is an experienced IT professional who has helped improve
 business performance for major national and international corporations.  He
 has worked with a range of organisations to introduce and implement new
 hardware, software, and processes to maximise efficiency while reducing
 costs and complexity.  Prior to joining Canonical, Roberto was an
 enterprise architect for Sun Microsystems from 2001 to 2009.

 Meeting Location:
   Please note that this meeting will be held at IBM, 590 Madison Ave,
   12th floor, corner of 57th Street, and not at Google.  This is
   the building with the IBM logo on the front of the building.

 Map:
   http://nylug.org/mapofibm

 Swag (Give Away):
   During/after the meeting... unusually terrific swag may be given
   away.

 Stammtisch:
   After the meeting ... You may wish to join up with other NYLUGgers
   for drinks and pub food.  This month we'll be over at TGI Friday's
   (677 Lexington and 56th Street, Second floor, Northeast corner),
   but we are also evaluating other options for the future and welcome
   your suggestions.

   http://nylug.org/tgifridays

 Coding Workshops/Hacking Society:
   This is a group of people that wants to learn about and work on coding
   in Python, Smalltalk, Ruby, C++, LaTeX, and other languages, and hack on 
code.
   There will also be help given for those who wish to install Linux for the
   first time.
   Sometimes they go out to eat afterward.

   Bring something to show off and discuss!

   The workshops meet every other Tuesday, at the NY Public Library,
   Hudson Park Branch.  66 Leroy St. NY NY from 6:00 PM - 8:00 PM
   Next meetings are December 21, and January 4.
   See the calendar at: http://nylug.org/hackcalendar

 Please see our home page at http://www.nylug.org for the HTMLized
 version of this announcement, our archives, and a lot of other good
 stuff.
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Re: The GPL and groupthink

2010-12-13 Thread bbgruff
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:01 Lusotec wrote:

> How very ridiculous, equalling GPL to communism. Do you even know what 
> communism is?

He's an American, posting via Thunderbird on Windows, and talking about BSD 
being Free while the GPL is "communist"!
Does that answer your question? :-)

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Re: The GPL and groupthink

2010-12-13 Thread Lusotec
RJack wrote:
> Here's a lucid article on the GPL groupthink attitude.
> 
> http://linux.dracony.org/2010/12/11/stop-linux-communism/
> 
>
> ...
> 1) You can take a code of the BSD licensed software and make it your own.
> 
> 2) You cannot appropriate the GPL licensed software (if so, you are
> punished).
> 
> Here you see two different conceptions of what freedom is. The GPL
> license is the same thing as the communist Socialist Property Ownership
> Act, because you get equally punished in both cases (braking the GPL or
> the communist law).

Equally punished? Are you completely demented or just incredibly ignorant?!

> The BSD license is in compliance with the philosophy of FSF – you can
> run, copy, distribute, study, change, and improve the software

And you can take others rights to do the same! That is the problem with BSD 
license and I don't don't use it for my code.

> (see my
> above note about groupthink – philosophy of BSD is in harmony with FSF,
> but not in total harmony) ...
>>
> 
> How very true!

How very ridiculous, equalling GPL to communism. Do you even know what 
communism is?

Regards.
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Re: The GPL and groupthink

2010-12-13 Thread RJack

On 12/13/2010 4:22 AM, bbgruff wrote:

On Monday 13 December 2010 01:01 Lusotec wrote:


How very ridiculous, equalling GPL to communism. Do you even know
what communism is?


He's an American, posting via Thunderbird on Windows, and talking
about BSD being Free while the GPL is "communist"! Does that answer
your question? :-)



The article's author makes it perfectly clear what he means by
"communist". Read the article instead of the NNTP header GPL moron.

Sincerely,
RJack :)


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Re: The GPL and groupthink

2010-12-13 Thread David Kastrup
John Hasler  writes:

> David Kastrup writes:
>> If you compare the writings of the "founding fathers" of communism
>> with the actions of existing communist parties and governments, you'll
>> find it hard to believe that _anybody_ knows what communism is.
>
> That applies to any political ideology whose advocates have ever
> achieved political power.

Well, it is hard to argue against the prevailing philosophical direction
in political power being cynicism.  Most governments declare ideals
quite in line with that ancient school of thought, and the execution is
quite in line with the modern meaning of that word.

Basically, we seem to deal with a universal equation

power + philosophy -> mockery

-- 
David Kastrup
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Re: The GPL and groupthink

2010-12-13 Thread John Hasler
David Kastrup writes:
> If you compare the writings of the "founding fathers" of communism
> with the actions of existing communist parties and governments, you'll
> find it hard to believe that _anybody_ knows what communism is.

That applies to any political ideology whose advocates have ever
achieved political power.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA
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Re: The GPL and groupthink

2010-12-13 Thread David Kastrup
Lusotec  writes:

[Rjack's off again]

> How very ridiculous, equalling GPL to communism. Do you even know what
> communism is?

If you compare the writings of the "founding fathers" of communism with
the actions of existing communist parties and governments, you'll find
it hard to believe that _anybody_ knows what communism is.  Definitely a
moving target that can be located almost anywhere nowadays, except where
it was supposed to be.

-- 
David Kastrup
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