Re: [GNC-dev] Using ending balance from OFX file as ending balance of reconcile?

2020-01-22 Thread Derek Atkins
Small correction.. I believe it remembers the last two reconcile dates and 
chooses the next one based on the time distance between the two.  So if you 
reconcile on Jan 1 and March 1, next one will be May 1.


-derek
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On January 23, 2020 2:19:05 AM John Ralls  wrote:


On Jan 22, 2020, at 2:57 PM, David Cousens  wrote:

Jean
Can't rtemember if it was discussed or not but there are possibly good
reasons for  not using the ending balance of an OFX import as the starting
balance for a reconciliation.

1. Depending on when the download is done, the bank may or may not have
included all of its charges and interest whereas a statement is usually
provided some time after the period of the statement and has all appropriate
fees and charges and adjustments included up to the closing date of the
statement. By providing a statement the bank is certifying this.

2. Reconciliation is the process of ensuring the accounts transaction record
is in agreement with the bank's. The bank considers its records true and
correct when it provides a statement of account that is certified to be so.

3. The starting balance of the next reconciliation has to be the ending
balance of the previous reconciliation to ensure that no transactions are
missed or extra transactions included in the period of the statement.


Maybe the situation may become different if and when banks are prepared to
declare their download OFX records are true and correct at the time of
download.


Besides, the reconcile window doesn't necessarily default the reconcile 
balance to the ending balance, it defaults it to the last running balance 
on the reconcile date. If this is your first reconcile ever then it does 
default to today, but if not it defaults to one month after the last 
reconcile date.


Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC-dev] Using ending balance from OFX file as ending balance of reconcile?

2020-01-22 Thread John Ralls



> On Jan 22, 2020, at 2:57 PM, David Cousens  wrote:
> 
> Jean 
> Can't rtemember if it was discussed or not but there are possibly good
> reasons for  not using the ending balance of an OFX import as the starting
> balance for a reconciliation.
> 
> 1. Depending on when the download is done, the bank may or may not have
> included all of its charges and interest whereas a statement is usually
> provided some time after the period of the statement and has all appropriate
> fees and charges and adjustments included up to the closing date of the
> statement. By providing a statement the bank is certifying this.
> 
> 2. Reconciliation is the process of ensuring the accounts transaction record
> is in agreement with the bank's. The bank considers its records true and
> correct when it provides a statement of account that is certified to be so.
> 
> 3. The starting balance of the next reconciliation has to be the ending
> balance of the previous reconciliation to ensure that no transactions are
> missed or extra transactions included in the period of the statement.
> 
> 
> Maybe the situation may become different if and when banks are prepared to
> declare their download OFX records are true and correct at the time of
> download.

Besides, the reconcile window doesn't necessarily default the reconcile balance 
to the ending balance, it defaults it to the last running balance on the 
reconcile date. If this is your first reconcile ever then it does default to 
today, but if not it defaults to one month after the last reconcile date.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC-dev] Using ending balance from OFX file as ending balance of reconcile?

2020-01-22 Thread David Cousens
Jean 
Can't rtemember if it was discussed or not but there are possibly good
reasons for  not using the ending balance of an OFX import as the starting
balance for a reconciliation.

1. Depending on when the download is done, the bank may or may not have
included all of its charges and interest whereas a statement is usually
provided some time after the period of the statement and has all appropriate
fees and charges and adjustments included up to the closing date of the
statement. By providing a statement the bank is certifying this.

2. Reconciliation is the process of ensuring the accounts transaction record
is in agreement with the bank's. The bank considers its records true and
correct when it provides a statement of account that is certified to be so.

3. The starting balance of the next reconciliation has to be the ending
balance of the previous reconciliation to ensure that no transactions are
missed or extra transactions included in the period of the statement.


Maybe the situation may become different if and when banks are prepared to
declare their download OFX records are true and correct at the time of
download.

David Cousens.



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[GNC-dev] Using ending balance from OFX file as ending balance of reconcile?

2020-01-22 Thread jeanl
Has there been any discussion of using the ending balance from an imported
OFX file as the ending balance during a reconcile?
Currently, the reconcile window shows the account's current balance as the
ending balance. But it would make a lot of sense to have an option to
replace that by the ending balance as read from the latest OFX import of
that account.
The workflow would be a lot better than it is currently when importing from
OFX.

Was that ever discussed? (couldn't find that in the forum)
Jean



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