Re: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary
On Sep 21, 2009, at 9:26 AM, JEFF CARNEAL wrote: On a related note, I'm finding some weirdness related to selecting text from within an account. I have noted the following: 1. Double or triple clicking a Description no longer highlights the text. 2. Selecting text can only be done by having the cursor on another line and selecting from your starting point of a *different* line. IOW, I cannot select from within the same line the cursor is currently located. Also, the selection takes between 1 and 2 seconds when it does work. 3. I cannot move the cursor with the mouse from within a particular register entry. Eg, click the 10th letter of an entry and subsequently click the 2nd letter of the same entry to place the cursor at that location doesn't work. Anyone else noticing this? And yes, I'm aware these are fairly minor gripes on what is otherwise a fabulous piece of work. Nicely done, John. I've noticed most of these. I think that they're related to the different text handling functions used (i.e., different from what's used in other controls) by register fields and perhaps with the gtk- quartz implementations (or in some cases, non-implementations) , but I haven't had time yet to work on it. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary
On a related note, I'm finding some weirdness related to selecting text from within an account. I have noted the following: 1. Double or triple clicking a Description no longer highlights the text. 2. Selecting text can only be done by having the cursor on another line and selecting from your starting point of a *different* line. IOW, I cannot select from within the same line the cursor is currently located. Also, the selection takes between 1 and 2 seconds when it does work. 3. I cannot move the cursor with the mouse from within a particular register entry. Eg, click the 10th letter of an entry and subsequently click the 2nd letter of the same entry to place the cursor at that location doesn't work. Anyone else noticing this? And yes, I'm aware these are fairly minor gripes on what is otherwise a fabulous piece of work. Nicely done, John. Jeff On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:44 PM, David T. wrote: The register problem is as you described: using the scroll wheel is noticeably slower on the bundled app than it is with the fink- installed X11 version on the same machine. I tested this both with the Macbook's two-finger scrolling trackpad, and an external mighty mouse, with the same results. The bundled app is scrolling slowly. And yes, you are referring to the reconcile window problem I see. If you wait long enough, the arrow key will eventually do something; it just takes so long that you forgot what it was. I use the keyboard a lot because OFX imported transactions come through on my machine as pre-reconciled (I don't know why that would be...), and clicking one of these de-selects it, and if you click on the transaction again to reselect it, more often than not, you end up opening the register to that transaction, taking you away from the reconcile window altogether. A minor annoyance, to be sure. I avoid that by using the arrow keys. otool tells me that the cputype is I386. David --- On Fri, 9/4/09, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: From: John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us Subject: Re: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary To: devel gnucash gnucash-devel@gnucash.org Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 7:27 AM On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:00 PM, David T. wrote: Actually, my gripe is increasing; I have found that the reconcile window arrow key response is HORRIBLE (3 seconds to move the focus down one line). There is clearly something seriously wrong in there. This was not a problem in the earlier dmg file. David --- On Wed, 9/2/09, David T. sunfis...@yahoo.com wrote: From: David T. sunfis...@yahoo.com Subject: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary To: devel gnucash gnucash-devel@gnucash.org Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 5:41 PM I know it's a minor gripe, but the scrolling in the latest OS X binary (downloaded yesterday) is extremely slow. I am running 10.5.8 on a Macbook Pro Intel. Hmm. I tried scrolling a register page by arrow-buttons, page up/down, and dragging the thumb. The thumb lagged the mouse a bit, but I was able to scroll from one end to the other of a several-thousand-split register in less that a second. Is that the scrolling performance you're talking about? In the reconcile window, I see that the up/down arrows don't do anything at all. Is that what you mean? (I usually use the mouse in the reconcile window, so I don't have a baseline expectation here.) Just to make sure you've got the Intel binary, could you run otool -hv on Gnucash-Intel.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash-bin? It should say i386 under the cputype. Thanks. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary
On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:00 PM, David T. wrote: Actually, my gripe is increasing; I have found that the reconcile window arrow key response is HORRIBLE (3 seconds to move the focus down one line). There is clearly something seriously wrong in there. This was not a problem in the earlier dmg file. David --- On Wed, 9/2/09, David T. sunfis...@yahoo.com wrote: From: David T. sunfis...@yahoo.com Subject: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary To: devel gnucash gnucash-devel@gnucash.org Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 5:41 PM I know it's a minor gripe, but the scrolling in the latest OS X binary (downloaded yesterday) is extremely slow. I am running 10.5.8 on a Macbook Pro Intel. Hmm. I tried scrolling a register page by arrow-buttons, page up/down, and dragging the thumb. The thumb lagged the mouse a bit, but I was able to scroll from one end to the other of a several-thousand-split register in less that a second. Is that the scrolling performance you're talking about? In the reconcile window, I see that the up/down arrows don't do anything at all. Is that what you mean? (I usually use the mouse in the reconcile window, so I don't have a baseline expectation here.) Just to make sure you've got the Intel binary, could you run otool -hv on Gnucash-Intel.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash-bin? It should say i386 under the cputype. Thanks. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary
The register problem is as you described: using the scroll wheel is noticeably slower on the bundled app than it is with the fink-installed X11 version on the same machine. I tested this both with the Macbook's two-finger scrolling trackpad, and an external mighty mouse, with the same results. The bundled app is scrolling slowly. And yes, you are referring to the reconcile window problem I see. If you wait long enough, the arrow key will eventually do something; it just takes so long that you forgot what it was. I use the keyboard a lot because OFX imported transactions come through on my machine as pre-reconciled (I don't know why that would be...), and clicking one of these de-selects it, and if you click on the transaction again to reselect it, more often than not, you end up opening the register to that transaction, taking you away from the reconcile window altogether. A minor annoyance, to be sure. I avoid that by using the arrow keys. otool tells me that the cputype is I386. David --- On Fri, 9/4/09, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote: From: John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us Subject: Re: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary To: devel gnucash gnucash-devel@gnucash.org Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 7:27 AM On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:00 PM, David T. wrote: Actually, my gripe is increasing; I have found that the reconcile window arrow key response is HORRIBLE (3 seconds to move the focus down one line). There is clearly something seriously wrong in there. This was not a problem in the earlier dmg file. David --- On Wed, 9/2/09, David T. sunfis...@yahoo.com wrote: From: David T. sunfis...@yahoo.com Subject: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary To: devel gnucash gnucash-devel@gnucash.org Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 5:41 PM I know it's a minor gripe, but the scrolling in the latest OS X binary (downloaded yesterday) is extremely slow. I am running 10.5.8 on a Macbook Pro Intel. Hmm. I tried scrolling a register page by arrow-buttons, page up/down, and dragging the thumb. The thumb lagged the mouse a bit, but I was able to scroll from one end to the other of a several-thousand-split register in less that a second. Is that the scrolling performance you're talking about? In the reconcile window, I see that the up/down arrows don't do anything at all. Is that what you mean? (I usually use the mouse in the reconcile window, so I don't have a baseline expectation here.) Just to make sure you've got the Intel binary, could you run otool -hv on Gnucash-Intel.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash-bin? It should say i386 under the cputype. Thanks. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary
On Sep 4, 2009, at 1:44 PM, David T. wrote: The register problem is as you described: using the scroll wheel is noticeably slower on the bundled app than it is with the fink- installed X11 version on the same machine. I tested this both with the Macbook's two-finger scrolling trackpad, and an external mighty mouse, with the same results. The bundled app is scrolling slowly. And yes, you are referring to the reconcile window problem I see. If you wait long enough, the arrow key will eventually do something; it just takes so long that you forgot what it was. I use the keyboard a lot because OFX imported transactions come through on my machine as pre-reconciled (I don't know why that would be...), and clicking one of these de-selects it, and if you click on the transaction again to reselect it, more often than not, you end up opening the register to that transaction, taking you away from the reconcile window altogether. A minor annoyance, to be sure. I avoid that by using the arrow keys. otool tells me that the cputype is I386. OK, good that we're at least on the same page. I'm not sure that I can do anything about differences in speed between Quartz and X11. They should be in the other direction, of course, but I don't know that for X11 Apple hasn't bypassed the Cocoa/Carbon layers that gdk-quartz is forced to use. In any case, if it's a gdk- quartz issue, it's not something that I can fix anytime soon. Gdk- quartz is part of GTK+, and while the GTK+ developers will claim to support Quartz when pressed, they are not actually doing anything -- not even applying patches supplied by other developers. (e..g: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=588449 ) To further isolate the problem, though, you said in your OP that the scrolling problem wasn't noticeable on 2.2.9 (vs. 2.2.9.1). Is that truly the case with both issues? I didn't see a scrolling problem using the 2-finger drag, just the lagging thumb when dragging it. Is scrollwheel/2-finger-drag scrolling the only sort that you find slow? Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary
Actually, my gripe is increasing; I have found that the reconcile window arrow key response is HORRIBLE (3 seconds to move the focus down one line). There is clearly something seriously wrong in there. This was not a problem in the earlier dmg file. David --- On Wed, 9/2/09, David T. sunfis...@yahoo.com wrote: From: David T. sunfis...@yahoo.com Subject: Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary To: devel gnucash gnucash-devel@gnucash.org Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 5:41 PM I know it's a minor gripe, but the scrolling in the latest OS X binary (downloaded yesterday) is extremely slow. I am running 10.5.8 on a Macbook Pro Intel. David ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Slow Scrolling with latest OS X Binary
I know it's a minor gripe, but the scrolling in the latest OS X binary (downloaded yesterday) is extremely slow. I am running 10.5.8 on a Macbook Pro Intel. David ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
