Re: Reconciling an account

2017-06-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone

> On Jun 12, 2017, at 12:10 PM, EngineInstitute  wrote:
> 
> David:
> 
> It is account is under the Liabilities and labeled as a Credit account.
> Note: it shows deposits on left and withdrawals on right. Is that because it
> was originally an income & expense account and I changed it?

You shouldn’t have deposits/withdrawals to a liability account. You should have 
either debits/credits or payments/charges.

> 
> Steps taken: 
> Down graded the program to 2.4.15 (there is no 2.6.15)
> No change.
> Opened a new test account to isolate the activity. It is a Credit Liability
> account, beginning 1/11/17
> Note: New account reflects: Increase on left and Decrease on right
> Input new data for month 1

Unless you are confusing ‘increase’ with ‘positive’ then it is still not 
correctly set as a credit type liability account.

Increase/Decrease are used as non-formal labels for type asset. An account of 
type Bank is an asset, but type Credit Card is a liability.

If it is a credit card it should be type credit card.

How did you create the account?



Let’s start over - you never specified what this account is tracking.

Is this a credit card? A checking account? A savings account? Something else?

That makes a difference as to how it should be classified and how 
debits/credits affect the balance.

-Adrien


> Reassigned payment against the card from the check book. New problem it
> assigns the payment as an increase not decrease.
> 
> My problems seem to be increasing not decreasing.
> Should I delete GnuCash and download a fresh version of 2.4.15?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: List of Equity, Expenses and Liabilities has disappeared

2017-06-12 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Not really.

By ‘window’ do you mean ‘tab’ within the GnuCash window, or is this a separate 
window entirely? (you can simply close any tab)

By partial list of assets do you mean a list of asset accounts, or actual 
assets? Is this an account register?

How did it first appear?

Can you provide a screenshot of the window? (obscure any sensitive info of 
course)

-Adrien



> On Jun 12, 2017, at 12:53 PM, Jonathan Silvey  
> wrote:
> 
> Adrian,
> It is already one of my windows. When I click on it, I get this partial list 
> of Assets and no Liabilities, Equities, etc. Does this answer your question?
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> Think before you print.
> 
> On 12 June 2017 at 17:01, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> > On Jun 12, 2017, at 4:37 AM, Jonathan Silvey  
> > wrote:
> >
> > I
> > ​ ​
> > have two problems that may or may not be related.
> >
> > First, when I want to go to my main list of assets and liabilities, the
> > name of the page is one of my Expense categories. For example, it is called
> > 'Medical expenses ‘.
> 
> How are you bringing this up? What menu entries are you using or what are you 
> clicking on that brings up such a tab?
> 
> -Adrien
> >
> > Second, when I see the list of Accounts, it only gives my Assets. It does
> > not show Equity, Expenses or Liabilities.  I do not know whether these
> > faults are related or unconnected.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
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Re: Reconciling an account

2017-06-12 Thread Maf. King
On Monday, 12 June 2017 22:00:35 BST Maf. King wrote:

> > Steps taken:
> > Down graded the program to 2.4.15 (there is no 2.6.15)
> 
> There is.
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/files/gnucash %28stable%29/2.6.15/
> 

Sorry, Link got mangled.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/files/gnucash (stable)/2.6.15/

that's gnucash(stable)/2.6.15/  which might be really awkward depending 
on your email client & browser combination.  You can get there in a couple of 
click from the bit before the space, though...

Maf.


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Re: Reconciling an account

2017-06-12 Thread Maf. King
On Monday, 12 June 2017 18:10:47 BST EngineInstitute wrote:
> David:
> 
> It is account is under the Liabilities and labeled as a Credit account.
> Note: it shows deposits on left and withdrawals on right. Is that because it
> was originally an income & expense account and I changed it?

Hi ChinaBlue,

This is getting confusing!  So the account is Type: Credit Card ?  If so, mine 
show "money I spend" in the Credit Column, (Tot Charge if the "use formal 
labels" preference is off), which is the rightmost of the two.  When I pay a 
credit card bill from my bank, the CCard accounts shows the transaction in the 
prior column, labeled Debit (or Payment)

> 
> Steps taken:
> Down graded the program to 2.4.15 (there is no 2.6.15)

There is.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/files/gnucash %28stable%29/2.6.15/

> No change.
> Opened a new test account to isolate the activity. It is a Credit Liability
> account, 

What is a "credit liability" account?  I appreciate you've dropped back to 
2.4.x and terminology may have changed since that was current a few years ago, 
but I don't recall that as an option for account type.

If you can get 2.6.15 to install, it might save a source of confusion.


> beginning 1/11/17
> Note: New account reflects: Increase on left and Decrease on right

Are Increase | Decrease the column headings?  I see that layout in accounts of 
Type:Asset (with "use formal labels" off).  Type:Credit Cards are Payment | 
Charge and Type:Liabilities are Decrease | Increase  

> Input new data for month 1
> Reassigned payment against the card from the check book. New problem it
> assigns the payment as an increase not decrease.
> 

IMHO, I think you've got the account types mixed up, as I think Derek alluded 
in a prior post.  Maybe your expense accounts aren't type Expense, or maybe 
the Credit Card is wrongly set in some way. 


> My problems seem to be increasing not decreasing.
> Should I delete GnuCash and download a fresh version of 2.4.15?

I would suggest you uninstall 2.4.15 and install  2.6.15 as linked above.  
(The reason to use 2.6.15 rather than latest 2.6.16 is that the older version 
allows you to change an account's type from the Edit Account dialogue, which 
2.6.16 does not permit.)

I've attached a screengrab of my credit card register, showing Friendly labels 
and 3 transactions - if it gets through the list it may help if you have 
something to compare against? (i'm in double-line, auto-split view by default)

Maf.

> 
> 

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Re: List of Equity, Expenses and Liabilities has disappeared

2017-06-12 Thread Jonathan Silvey
Adrian,
It is already one of my windows. When I click on it, I get this partial
list of Assets and no Liabilities, Equities, etc. Does this answer your
question?


Jonathan

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On 12 June 2017 at 17:01, Adrien Monteleone 
wrote:

>
> > On Jun 12, 2017, at 4:37 AM, Jonathan Silvey 
> wrote:
> >
> > I
> > ​ ​
> > have two problems that may or may not be related.
> >
> > First, when I want to go to my main list of assets and liabilities, the
> > name of the page is one of my Expense categories. For example, it is
> called
> > 'Medical expenses ‘.
>
> How are you bringing this up? What menu entries are you using or what are
> you clicking on that brings up such a tab?
>
> -Adrien
> >
> > Second, when I see the list of Accounts, it only gives my Assets. It does
> > not show Equity, Expenses or Liabilities.  I do not know whether these
> > faults are related or unconnected.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > *Think before you print.*
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Re: Reconciling an account

2017-06-12 Thread EngineInstitute
David:

It is account is under the Liabilities and labeled as a Credit account.
Note: it shows deposits on left and withdrawals on right. Is that because it
was originally an income & expense account and I changed it?

Steps taken: 
Down graded the program to 2.4.15 (there is no 2.6.15)
No change.
Opened a new test account to isolate the activity. It is a Credit Liability
account, beginning 1/11/17
Note: New account reflects: Increase on left and Decrease on right
Input new data for month 1
Reassigned payment against the card from the check book. New problem it
assigns the payment as an increase not decrease.

My problems seem to be increasing not decreasing.
Should I delete GnuCash and download a fresh version of 2.4.15?




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Re: List of Equity, Expenses and Liabilities has disappeared

2017-06-12 Thread David Carlson
Are you using View>New Accounts Page to see the list of accounts?

David C

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 4:37 AM, Jonathan Silvey 
wrote:

> I
> ​ ​
> have two problems that may or may not be related.
>
> First, when I want to go to my main list of assets and liabilities, the
> name of the page is one of my Expense categories. For example, it is called
> 'Medical expenses '.
>
> Second, when I see the list of Accounts, it only gives my Assets. It does
> not show Equity, Expenses or Liabilities.  I do not know whether these
> faults are related or unconnected.
>
> Jonathan
>
> *Think before you print.*
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List of Equity, Expenses and Liabilities has disappeared

2017-06-12 Thread Jonathan Silvey
I
​ ​
have two problems that may or may not be related.

First, when I want to go to my main list of assets and liabilities, the
name of the page is one of my Expense categories. For example, it is called
'Medical expenses '.

Second, when I see the list of Accounts, it only gives my Assets. It does
not show Equity, Expenses or Liabilities.  I do not know whether these
faults are related or unconnected.

Jonathan

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