Re: [GNC] postpone reconciliation broken: ignores my changes
> On 3 Feb 2019, at 14:59, Jamestk wrote: > > Ira me again, this seems to be happening on v3.4 > > Changes made by ticking entries are no longer saved after opting to > postpone, anyone else noticed this? A slightly different (but perhaps connected?) reconciliation problem happened to me yesterday. I’m using version 3.4 on iMac with High Sierra. I reconciled 9 separate statements with their corresponding accounts on Tuesday. In some instances I had to enter transactions which appeared on the statement but for which I didn’t have a receipt (e.g. contactless travel charges), and found I couldn’t do this without postponing (this is possible in 2.6.16). Once I’d made these entries I was able to go back and complete the reconciliation. Yesterday morning I reconciled a single account, marked it complete, clicked “Save” and quit Gnucash - I was going to be out all day, and wasn’t planning to do any more work on the books. The unusual aspect was the quick sequence of finishing the reconciliation, clicking Save and Quit - usually I would tidy up the papers before shutting down. The Mac itself was left running. In the evening I decided to reconcile another couple of statements, but when I started Gnucash I got the lock-file warning, but overrode it because there was no other instance of Gnucash running, only to find that the reconciliation from the morning hadn’t been saved. A number of minor corrections I’d made to transactions during the session have been recorded. I suppose it’s possible that I hit Cancel instead of Finish at the end of the reconciliation, but I’ve never made this error since I started using GC in 2010. Michael ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash terminates immediately
Thanks for your hint. I looked at my language settings, and I found that the languages were in the order (1) English (Slovenia); (2) English (United States); ... Since the gnucash installation language was (2) all I had to do was to change the order of (1) and (2), and the program now works. Regards, bostjanv On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 11:59 PM John Ralls wrote: > Probably not. > > What are your Language and Region settings? Have you set up a different > locale in the environment file? > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > > On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Bostjan Vilfan wrote: > > > > I managed to obtain the trace file (which, however, is very short). When > I called gnucash without further parameters the trace file was empty; > however, when I used "gnucash --debug --extra I obtained > > > > * 17:19:03 INFO [main] System locale returned C > > * 17:19:03 INFO [main] Effective locale set to C. > > * 17:19:03 INFO [gnc_hook_lookup] no hook lists > > > > Is the phrase "no hook lists" relevant? > > > > Regards, > > bostjanv > > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 4:56 PM Bostjan Vilfan > wrote: > > Thanks, I'll check them out. > > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 4:43 PM John Ralls wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2019, at 6:35 AM, David Carlson > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 5:30 AM Bostjan Vilfan > > > > >> I tried both, gnucash 3.4 as well as 2.6.26; therefore it could be > > >> something with Windows 10 version 1809; in case you are able to > figure out > > >> something, I am enclosing link to Windows msinfo results: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > >> bostjanv > > >> > > >>> __ > > >>> > > >>> > > > There are instructions in the Gnucash wiki on how to get error > messages out > > > of Gnucash, I am not online right now, so I cannot tell you exactly > where, > > > I just remember that it is not an easy task. > > > > > > There is also a way to start Gnucash from the command line without a > data > > > file. Sometimes a bad data file can cause a crash. Again the exact > > > procedure escapes me, but other users or devs may be able to help. > > > > > > Sorry I cannot be more help right now. > > > > The instructions are at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile and > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/stack_trace. The trace file is easy. The > stack trace is hard only on windows, but is the most useful when you have a > crash. > > > > Please don't post either here: Crashes deserve bug reports. > > > > Regards, > > John Ralls > > > > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] postpone reconciliation broken: ignores my changes
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:00 PM, Colin Law wrote: > > Perhaps it is a Windows issue. As I said it is ok for me using 3.4 on > Ubuntu. It’s not just a Windows problem. I see the same behavior (at least part of the time) with version 3.4 running on a Mac. Mike ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] postpone reconciliation broken: ignores my changes
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 21:16, Jamestk wrote: > Thanks, checked both options (menu and button), neither saves your > selection. > > Not a problem at all, only highlighting for devs/next release, perhaps > someone with a Bugzilla count can log this - many thanks, > Perhaps it is a Windows issue. As I said it is ok for me using 3.4 on Ubuntu. Colin ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] postpone reconciliation broken: ignores my changes
Thanks, checked both options (menu and button), neither saves your selection. Not a problem at all, only highlighting for devs/next release, perhaps someone with a Bugzilla count can log this - many thanks, -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Transferring portion of mutual fund account to another fund account
Hi. I've haven't finalized my method to accomplish the fund transfer at cost, but it does involve selling the specified number of fund units, using the lots utility and scrubbing. This will generate an orphan capital gain which can then be used to calculate the cost basis for the specified units. The entries from the scrubbing are then deleted from the account and the sell transaction is modified with the value of the calculated cost basis. The lot and scrubbing utility are again used and should produce a total orphan capital gain of 0 and the proper entries and transfer to the other account. This procedure will also create incorrect entries into the price database for the respective mutual fund units, which should be deleted. I'm not quite finished looking into this but it seems to be the way to go since scrubbing maintains the allotment of the units on a FIFO basis and future transfers can be done on the remaining lots. -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of D via gnucash-user Sent: February 6, 2019 7:38 AM To: alen siljak@gmx. com ; Gnucash Users Subject: Re: [GNC] Transferring portion of mutual fund account to another fund account On February 6, 2019, at 2:10 PM, cicko wrote: >Hi, Harry, >What I do is simply create a transaction which subtracts shares from >one accounts and puts them into the other. >This, of course, does not track the original prices. For that you'd >need to do something similar to what scrubbing does. Note that I don't >use scrubbing as I found it makes things worse for me rather than >better. To my understanding, scrubbing will work at all only if you >sell. It will then match the sold split(s) to the purchased split(s). >However, if you buy 10 units twice (10 + 10) at different prices, and >then sell (or move) 15 at once, I don't GnuCash will help you much in >keeping track of original purchase prices for the lot. Cicko, you're wrong on this point. Gnucash does keep track of each of these lots, and will calculate gains on the separate lots when you scrub lots. The scrub function in this case will actually take your original sell transaction and create lot-based sell splits, and then separate gains transactions for each lot. I have found these transactions to be accurate for mutual funds, where commissions and fees are not specified. With stock sales, I get tripped up by the fees and commissions, which I manually adjust after the fact. Some have noted that a user could record their stock purchases in the same way (i.e., roll the fees into the purchase price) but that rubs my sensibilities (such as they are) the wrong way.I David >In that regard, I'm also interested in what others are doing. For those >rare cases when I do sell, I created a Python script that performs "scrubbing" >in-memory and calculates the original prices for the lots but does not >write anything to the book. Then I can create transactions manually to >reflect the real life. I actually use it mostly for the accurate >calculation of the average purchase price as it takes into account only >the prices for the shares I actually own, assuming FIFO, of course. >-- >Sent from: >https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgnucas >h.1415818.n4.nabble.com%2FGnuCash-User-f1415819.htmldata=02%7C01%7 >C%7C7a4b1647d8fb49ad0fa308d68c388322%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435 >%7C1%7C0%7C636850571671394911sdata=d4MJb%2FQ%2FRqsaKh69kz7G2HxFy2O >7wZ4PYjsztwMykTM%3Dreserved=0 >___ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists >.gnucash.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fgnucash-userdata=02%7C01%7C%7C >7a4b1647d8fb49ad0fa308d68c388322%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1 >%7C0%7C636850571671404917sdata=%2FnWyjr5No27KGsXf2Q2Pe81KG8EzwZyQc >QlpL%2Bcz4YA%3Dreserved=0 If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please >see https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnuca sh.org%2Fwiki%2FMailing_Listsdata=02%7C01%7C%7C7a4b1647d8fb49ad0fa308d6 8c388322%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636850571671404917 ;sdata=U%2BQTH1ogqmxcApdhboDu3x5AVNv0I051Uuc%2FxEE9Zmo%3Dreserved=0 for more information. >- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.gnuc ash.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fgnucash-userdata=02%7C01%7C%7C7a4b1647d8 fb49ad0fa308d68c388322%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63685057 1671404917sdata=%2FnWyjr5No27KGsXf2Q2Pe81KG8EzwZyQcQlpL%2Bcz4YA%3D reserved=0 If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see
Re: [GNC] Transferring portion of mutual fund account to another fund account
On February 6, 2019, at 2:10 PM, cicko wrote: >Hi, Harry, >What I do is simply create a transaction which subtracts shares from one >accounts and puts them into the other. >This, of course, does not track the original prices. For that you'd need to >do something similar to what scrubbing does. Note that I don't use scrubbing >as I found it makes things worse for me rather than better. To my >understanding, scrubbing will work at all only if you sell. It will then >match the sold split(s) to the purchased split(s). However, if you buy 10 >units twice (10 + 10) at different prices, and then sell (or move) 15 at >once, I don't GnuCash will help you much in keeping track of original >purchase prices for the lot. Cicko, you're wrong on this point. Gnucash does keep track of each of these lots, and will calculate gains on the separate lots when you scrub lots. The scrub function in this case will actually take your original sell transaction and create lot-based sell splits, and then separate gains transactions for each lot. I have found these transactions to be accurate for mutual funds, where commissions and fees are not specified. With stock sales, I get tripped up by the fees and commissions, which I manually adjust after the fact. Some have noted that a user could record their stock purchases in the same way (i.e., roll the fees into the purchase price) but that rubs my sensibilities (such as they are) the wrong way.I David >In that regard, I'm also interested in what others are doing. For those rare >cases when I do sell, I created a Python script that performs "scrubbing" >in-memory and calculates the original prices for the lots but does not write >anything to the book. Then I can create transactions manually to reflect the >real life. I actually use it mostly for the accurate calculation of the >average purchase price as it takes into account only the prices for the >shares I actually own, assuming FIFO, of course. >-- >Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html >___ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to change size of register in Gnucash 3.4
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 07:54:30 + (UTC) aeg wrote: > Liz > If I'm understanding this problem correctly, you are referring to the > space taken up by the register title tabs across the top of the > screen. If that is the problem, my solution has been to move them to > the right where I can have 20+ register titles > visible.Edit>Preferences>Windows>Tab Position>Right Alan > > > No, I only have a few open in most accounts, one has just 3 open. Liz ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Transferring portion of mutual fund account to another fund account
Hi, Harry, What I do is simply create a transaction which subtracts shares from one accounts and puts them into the other. This, of course, does not track the original prices. For that you'd need to do something similar to what scrubbing does. Note that I don't use scrubbing as I found it makes things worse for me rather than better. To my understanding, scrubbing will work at all only if you sell. It will then match the sold split(s) to the purchased split(s). However, if you buy 10 units twice (10 + 10) at different prices, and then sell (or move) 15 at once, I don't GnuCash will help you much in keeping track of original purchase prices for the lot. In that regard, I'm also interested in what others are doing. For those rare cases when I do sell, I created a Python script that performs "scrubbing" in-memory and calculates the original prices for the lots but does not write anything to the book. Then I can create transactions manually to reflect the real life. I actually use it mostly for the accurate calculation of the average purchase price as it takes into account only the prices for the shares I actually own, assuming FIFO, of course. -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] How to change size of register in Gnucash 3.4
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 07:57, aeg via gnucash-user wrote: > ... > If I'm understanding this problem correctly, you are referring to the > space taken up by the register title tabs across the top of the screen. If > that is the problem, my solution has been to move them to the right where I > can have 20+ register titles visible.Edit>Preferences>Windows>Tab > Position>Right > I don't think that is the issue (at least it is not the one I am seeing). The problem is that the Gnucash window cannot be shrunk below a certain size, and the minimum size has got significantly larger with 3.x. See the bug I linked to earlier. Colin ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Multi currency income
Hi, I am using gnu-cash 2.6.12 on ubuntu. I used it for more that 5 years. I think it was updated at some point this year and since them multi currency feature does not work as it use to be. For a check for 100 USD I use to enter the next transaction(s): 100 USD went on `Shareholder US account` denominated in US dollars was debited against `Shareholder account` nominated in CAD . At that point the rate dialogue popped out and I enter the rate for that day according to national bank of Canada and hit ok. The reflected amount was into the shareholder account ( 130 CAD ) For the same 100 USD entry I had a second transaction to credit the `Income account` denominated in CAD. The same amount (130) was calculated. At the end the US account ends with a balance of 0 but it reflects the fact that the income was in US dollars and deposited in my personal account. This was the way of working for the last 5 years or so, however now I get at least 3 more transactions, 2 more trading accounts has been created (CAD and USD) and there is no way to make it to calculate the Canadian amount. Another issue if I calculate the CAD amount I allways have some remaining into the Imbalance account. Any idea what happened or how am I suppose to do the same thing now? Regards, JB ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash terminates immediately
I managed to obtain the trace file (which, however, is very short). When I called gnucash without further parameters the trace file was empty; however, when I used "gnucash --debug --extra I obtained * 17:19:03 INFO [main] System locale returned C * 17:19:03 INFO [main] Effective locale set to C. * 17:19:03 INFO [gnc_hook_lookup] no hook lists Is the phrase "no hook lists" relevant? Regards, bostjanv On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 4:56 PM Bostjan Vilfan wrote: > Thanks, I'll check them out. > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 4:43 PM John Ralls wrote: > >> >> >> > On Feb 5, 2019, at 6:35 AM, David Carlson >> wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 5:30 AM Bostjan Vilfan > > >> >> I tried both, gnucash 3.4 as well as 2.6.26; therefore it could be >> >> something with Windows 10 version 1809; in case you are able to figure >> out >> >> something, I am enclosing link to Windows msinfo results: >> >> >> > >> > >> >> Regards, >> >> bostjanv >> >> >> >>> __ >> >>> >> >>> >> > There are instructions in the Gnucash wiki on how to get error messages >> out >> > of Gnucash, I am not online right now, so I cannot tell you exactly >> where, >> > I just remember that it is not an easy task. >> > >> > There is also a way to start Gnucash from the command line without a >> data >> > file. Sometimes a bad data file can cause a crash. Again the exact >> > procedure escapes me, but other users or devs may be able to help. >> > >> > Sorry I cannot be more help right now. >> >> The instructions are at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile and >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/stack_trace. The trace file is easy. The >> stack trace is hard only on windows, but is the most useful when you have a >> crash. >> >> Please don't post either here: Crashes deserve bug reports. >> >> Regards, >> John Ralls >> >> ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash terminates immediately
Thanks, I'll check them out. On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 4:43 PM John Ralls wrote: > > > > On Feb 5, 2019, at 6:35 AM, David Carlson > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 5:30 AM Bostjan Vilfan > > >> I tried both, gnucash 3.4 as well as 2.6.26; therefore it could be > >> something with Windows 10 version 1809; in case you are able to figure > out > >> something, I am enclosing link to Windows msinfo results: > >> > > > > > >> Regards, > >> bostjanv > >> > >>> __ > >>> > >>> > > There are instructions in the Gnucash wiki on how to get error messages > out > > of Gnucash, I am not online right now, so I cannot tell you exactly > where, > > I just remember that it is not an easy task. > > > > There is also a way to start Gnucash from the command line without a data > > file. Sometimes a bad data file can cause a crash. Again the exact > > procedure escapes me, but other users or devs may be able to help. > > > > Sorry I cannot be more help right now. > > The instructions are at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile and > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/stack_trace. The trace file is easy. The > stack trace is hard only on windows, but is the most useful when you have a > crash. > > Please don't post either here: Crashes deserve bug reports. > > Regards, > John Ralls > > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash terminates immediately
I tried both, gnucash 3.4 as well as 2.6.26; therefore it could be something with Windows 10 version 1809; in case you are able to figure out something, I am enclosing link to Windows msinfo results: https://www.dropbox.com/s/heoqxgbi7xvha1a/msinfo.nfo?dl=0 Regards, bostjanv On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 3:51 AM David Carlson wrote: > What version Gnucash? what os? > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 8:27 PM Bostjan Vilfan wrote: > >> Hello, >> I haven't used gnucash for some time, and when I tried to call the program >> the splash screen appears, and the program immediately terminates. Can >> someone help? >> Regards, >> bostjanv >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
