Re: [GNC] Book keeping/accounting of club project funds

2019-05-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Report Options > Display (at least for P/Income Statement and the Balance 
Sheet)

Parent account balances > Account Balance | Subtotal | Do not show
Parent account subtotals > Show subtotals | Do not show | Textbook style 
(experimental)

The first option will show the Account Balance if the parent is *not* a 
placeholder and has transactions.
The first option “Subtotal” will show the roll-up of the kids, regardless of if 
there are transactions in the parent. (from my understanding)

The second option “Show subtotals” will show a line AFTER the list of kids with 
“ Total” and an amount, which I *think* includes the parent and 
children
I’ve never seen any difference with the Text Book Style.

Generally, all my parents are placeholders, but I have a few that aren’t. So I 
set this to Account Balance, and *also* set to suppress zero balance figures 
and accounts. (so only those parents with transactions get a figure, otherwise, 
it is blank) And then I set the second option to Show Subtotals.

So I get something like this:


Auto
Auto Insurance  $717.73
Fuel
E10 $73.55
Gas $522.01
Total Fuel  --- $595.56
   Parking  $3.15
   Repair and Maintenance
 Fluids $61.96
 Labor  $48.00
 Parts  $397.63
   Warranty $40.00
 Total Parts--- $437.63
 Supplies   $10.01
   Total Repair and Maintenance --- $557.60
 Total Auto --- $1,874.04



However for my Balance Sheet, none of the detail I choose to show has any 
parents with transactions, so I set the first option to “Do Not Show” and the 
second to “Show Subtotals” (I still suppress zero balance figures and accounts 
for cleanliness)

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 2, 2019, at 9:19 PM, Stephen M. Butler  wrote:
> 
> On 5/2/19 6:50 PM, Roderick Anderson wrote:
>> Thanks Stephen.
>> 
>> This is kind of what I was thinking I needed to do.
>> 
>> Can you offer some pointers to find out more about 'setting flags' and
>> roll-up account?  I figured there should be options like this but too
>> ignorant of accounting to even know where to look.
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> Rod - K7ZBE
> 
> I went looking and couldn't find it.  I was thinking that one of the
> Balance Sheet or Transaction reports had the option to include the
> children in the total.  But, couldn't find it this round.
> 
> There are a couple of places where GnC keeps system level type settings. 
> 
> 1.  File:Properties
> 
> 2.  Edit:Preferences
> 
> Then each report has an Options menu item that will have multiple tabs
> for setting options for that specific report.  Some reports won't show
> anything until you set the desired options.
> 
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Re: [GNC] Book keeping/accounting of club project funds

2019-05-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Rod,

I think AP/AR are already there if you have the Business Features available. 
(this was a subject of dispute not long ago on the list. I seem to recall a 
time when one had to specifically enable them as an option, but it’s been so 
long since I started a new book...)

If you do have to create them manually, be sure to assign them the ’special’ 
account type that matches their name. (‘Accounts Receivable’ as ’type: accounts 
receivable’, same for payables)

Also remember that while you can have other receivable and payable accounts, 
*do not* set them to those special types. (you can only have one of each) Make 
them generic asset/liability accounts. (but they can be children of the special 
accounts)

Finally, try to avoid manual entries into those special accounts, use only the 
business features to accomplish changes. (but you can make manual entries in 
your generic receivable/payables accounts all you want)

The Business Features, along with their special reports, are not cognizant of 
entries in the generic accounts, and are not cognizant of manual entries.

Regards,
Adrien


> On May 2, 2019, at 6:30 PM, Rich Shepard  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2 May 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:
> 
>>> I've been asked to track the funding(?) for the clubs main project, HAM
>>> radio repeaters. We paid for them out of checking. Some of it before I
>>> became treasurer. We are now needing to enhance those systems so we've
>>> asked for donations specifically for this purpose - a Repeater fund.
> 
> Rod,
> 
> Forgot to suggest you set up Business -> Vendor account for your hardware
> provider(s) and anyone else who the organization needs to pay. Set up an
> asset account for accounts payable, enter (and post) invoices there, then
> pay them by either printing checks or writing checks by hand.
> 
> Rich

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Re: [GNC] Account Types

2019-05-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
What you are looking for is something more along the lines of operational 
and/or cost-center accounting.

You *can* achieve that with an unconventional account tree, but you’ll 
encounter some oddities, like this one.

You can export your P to a spreadsheet to manipulate it like you want with 
COGS broken out separately and even add a Operating Revenue or similar line 
after.

Otherwise, investigate using the SQlite backend with Piecash to generate a 
custom P (you could use Scheme within GnuCash to do this, but that is a 
steeper learning curve)

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Jimmy R via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've created a top level accounts called COGS which is fine, but when I run a
> report it is shown within the Expenses. Is it possible to have it shown like
> below displaying ( two expenses )
> 
> Expense COGS
> - Food
> - Beverages
> 
> Expense Operating
> - Advertising
> - Auto
> ---Fees
> ---Gas
> ---Parking
> ---Repair and Maintenance 
> ---Bank Service Charge
> etc etc
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Jimmy

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Re: [GNC] Uninstall GC

2019-05-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Curious about that cmake line...

Was that: /home/dennis/.local/home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1?

Looks like an extra nested /home/dennis in there or am I reading that wrong? 
(If I am, apologies for the noise)

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 2, 2019, at 6:48 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 2, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Stephen M. Butler  wrote:
>> 
>> On 5/2/19 1:48 PM, Dennis Powless wrote:
>>> I've got GC 3.1 installed on my laptop running Ubuntu 19.04.  Built from
>>> source.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This was the command I ran to install GC back then.
>>> 
>>> cmake -DWITH_AQBANKING=OFF -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local
>>> /home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1
>>> 
>>> So, my build directory is  Applications/gnucash-3.1   ???  right.
>> 
>> 
>> Probably not.  Since you gave a full path (not relative) to the source,
>> your build location could be nearly anywhere.  Specifically, it would be
>> where you were at when the cmake was issued. 
>> 
>> Usually it is in a "build-xxx" folder just under Applications (next door
>> to gnucash-3.1).  However, some use a '.build' folder inside the source
>> code (dpkg_buildpackage does that).
>> 
>> You will need to find all the 'make' files and see which one contains
>> the build for 3.1.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I then did this
>>> 
>>> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~/Applications/gnucash-3.1$ make uninstall
>>> make: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'.  Stop.
>>> 
>>> This was the output.
> 
> Or just
>  rm -rf ~/Applications/gnucash-3.1
> 
> You could even leave it there and just remove ~/Applications/gnucash-3.1/bin 
> from $PATH and/or delete the desktop file if that's how you launch GnuCash. 
> Installing GnuCash from apt will put everything in /usr like all of the other 
> programs on the machine and install a new desktop file pointing there.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] 8.1 Find (^F) set default search preferences?

2019-05-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I agree, I find myself often having to face palm and then migrate to the the 
CoA to conduct my search. In fact, I rarely can get any results even *for* the 
register I’m in. But ‘finding’ from the CoA works every time.

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 2, 2019, at 5:30 PM, David Carlson  wrote:
> 
> The part of the ^F search that I get most frustrated with is that it only 
> searches the split lines belonging to the register that you start in, so I 
> usually have to start by going to the CoA window or open a Ledger window 
> before starting my search.  An option to search all transaction accounts 
> without leaving the current account register would be very nice.
> 
> David Carlson
> 


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Re: [GNC] column widths - balance

2019-05-02 Thread David Carlson
The real problem comes if you use the program on two different monitors
with different resolutions and/or different default text sizes.  In one
case you will want extra space to the left so that it is still ok on the
other monitor.  Double clicking doesn't leave extra space on the left.

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 9:21 PM David Carlson 
wrote:

> When did that change?  in release 2.6.19 you can still adjust the balance
> by moving the right edge of the title.
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 8:58 PM David T.  wrote:
>
>> Note that Section 2.3.3 of the Guide includes the following:
>>
>> Note
>>
>> In the register windows, you can resize the various columns that
>> *GnuCash* displays, *but keep in mind that the Description and Balance
>> columns behave differently from other columns*.
>>
>> The *Description* column is designed to expand automatically to fill all
>> unused horizontal screen space. Therefore you should set the widths of all
>> your other columns before setting the Description column width.
>>
>> The *Balance* column must be resized by double-clicking on the column
>> heading.
>>
>> David T.
>>
>> On May 3, 2019, at 2:07 AM, David Carlson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Every column except the description can be adjusted by grabbing and
>> dragging the right edge with the mouse.  The balance column is a little
>> harder to do that way, but the double click method usually makes an
>> acceptable width.
>> For the Description drag the right edge left until the horizontal
>> scrollbar
>> disappears.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:09 PM Jeff Albrecht  wrote:
>>
>> Try double clicking on column headers.
>>
>>  - Jeff
>>
>> On 5/2/2019 12:00 PM, Elmar wrote:
>>
>> For some reason I can't seem to expand the column width for the
>> account balance (e.g. a bank cash money market account, last column in
>> the register) - it will only display 5 places in front of the decimal
>> point.  Is this a bug?
>>
>> GC Version: 3.5 Build ID: git 3.5+(2019-03-30) on Linux Mint 19.1 Mate
>> desktop.
>>
>> - Elmar
>>
>>
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Re: [GNC] column widths - balance

2019-05-02 Thread David Carlson
When did that change?  in release 2.6.19 you can still adjust the balance
by moving the right edge of the title.

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 8:58 PM David T.  wrote:

> Note that Section 2.3.3 of the Guide includes the following:
>
> Note
>
> In the register windows, you can resize the various columns that *GnuCash*
>  displays, *but keep in mind that the Description and Balance columns
> behave differently from other columns*.
>
> The *Description* column is designed to expand automatically to fill all
> unused horizontal screen space. Therefore you should set the widths of all
> your other columns before setting the Description column width.
>
> The *Balance* column must be resized by double-clicking on the column
> heading.
>
> David T.
>
> On May 3, 2019, at 2:07 AM, David Carlson 
> wrote:
>
> Every column except the description can be adjusted by grabbing and
> dragging the right edge with the mouse.  The balance column is a little
> harder to do that way, but the double click method usually makes an
> acceptable width.
> For the Description drag the right edge left until the horizontal scrollbar
> disappears.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:09 PM Jeff Albrecht  wrote:
>
> Try double clicking on column headers.
>
>  - Jeff
>
> On 5/2/2019 12:00 PM, Elmar wrote:
>
> For some reason I can't seem to expand the column width for the
> account balance (e.g. a bank cash money market account, last column in
> the register) - it will only display 5 places in front of the decimal
> point.  Is this a bug?
>
> GC Version: 3.5 Build ID: git 3.5+(2019-03-30) on Linux Mint 19.1 Mate
> desktop.
>
> - Elmar
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Book keeping/accounting of club project funds

2019-05-02 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 5/2/19 6:50 PM, Roderick Anderson wrote:
> Thanks Stephen.
>
> This is kind of what I was thinking I needed to do.
>
> Can you offer some pointers to find out more about 'setting flags' and
> roll-up account?  I figured there should be options like this but too
> ignorant of accounting to even know where to look.
>
>
> 73,
> Rod - K7ZBE

I went looking and couldn't find it.  I was thinking that one of the
Balance Sheet or Transaction reports had the option to include the
children in the total.  But, couldn't find it this round.

There are a couple of places where GnC keeps system level type settings. 

1.  File:Properties

2.  Edit:Preferences

Then each report has an Options menu item that will have multiple tabs
for setting options for that specific report.  Some reports won't show
anything until you set the desired options.

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Re: [GNC] Book keeping/accounting of club project funds

2019-05-02 Thread David Cousens
Rod,

In the archives you will also  find a number of discussions of accounting
for restricted funds where funds are for a specified purpose and restricted
to being used only for that purposewhich may be helpful.

http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/Earmarking-funds-for-specific-purposes-td4687783.html
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2014-November/056840.html
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2016-December/068172.html

There may be more hidden under other related topics

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Re: [GNC] column widths - balance

2019-05-02 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
Note that Section 2.3.3 of the Guide includes the following:

Note
In the register windows, you can resize the various columns that GnuCash 
displays, but keep in mind that the Description and Balance columns behave 
differently from other columns.

The Description column is designed to expand automatically to fill all unused 
horizontal screen space. Therefore you should set the widths of all your other 
columns before setting the Description column width.

The Balance column must be resized by double-clicking on the column heading.


David T.

> On May 3, 2019, at 2:07 AM, David Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Every column except the description can be adjusted by grabbing and
> dragging the right edge with the mouse.  The balance column is a little
> harder to do that way, but the double click method usually makes an
> acceptable width.
> For the Description drag the right edge left until the horizontal scrollbar
> disappears.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:09 PM Jeff Albrecht  wrote:
> 
>> Try double clicking on column headers.
>> 
>>  - Jeff
>> 
>> On 5/2/2019 12:00 PM, Elmar wrote:
>>> For some reason I can't seem to expand the column width for the
>>> account balance (e.g. a bank cash money market account, last column in
>>> the register) - it will only display 5 places in front of the decimal
>>> point.  Is this a bug?
>>> 
>>> GC Version: 3.5 Build ID: git 3.5+(2019-03-30) on Linux Mint 19.1 Mate
>>> desktop.
>>> 
>>> - Elmar
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [GNC] Account Types

2019-05-02 Thread David Cousens
Jimmy

You would normally create a COGS account as a sub account of Expenses, not
as a top level account in its own right.  

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Re: [GNC] Book keeping/accounting of club project funds

2019-05-02 Thread Roderick Anderson

Thanks Stephen.

This is kind of what I was thinking I needed to do.

Can you offer some pointers to find out more about 'setting flags' and 
roll-up account?  I figured there should be options like this but too 
ignorant of accounting to even know where to look.



73,
Rod - K7ZBE
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On 5/2/19 4:53 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

On 5/2/19 3:18 PM, Roderick Anderson wrote:

Cryptic enough? :-)




How should I make entries for club project funds.

I am the treasurer for a small 501(c)(3).  Our income is mainly
memberships (dues), cash donations, and an annual swap meet like event.

First off I have almost no experience in accounting and mostly
on-the-job learning.  I inherited a Quick Books system that I imported
into GNUCash.  I've made some modifications to that account structure.

I am using three Asset accounts.  Checking, Savings, and Petty cash.

I've been asked to track the funding(?) for the clubs main project,
HAM radio repeaters.  We paid for them out of checking.  Some of it
before I became treasurer.
   We are now needing to enhance those systems so we've asked for
donations specifically for this purpose - a Repeater fund.

So when the funds come in how do I book them?  That the right term?
Previously I just deposited the funds to checking.  And we used them
as needed though there wasn't enough in the fund so the rest came out
of the checking asset.

I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to handle this?


TIA,
Rod


In addition to the other suggestions, I'd look to having sub-accounts
under checking and set flags such that checking includes the
sub-accounts in a roll-up accounting.  With sub-accounts you could break
out the funds held in the checking account for the purposes for which
the funds have been reserved.

Have fun and 73.

--KG7JE


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[GNC] Account Types

2019-05-02 Thread Jimmy R via gnucash-user
I've created a top level accounts called COGS which is fine, but when I run a
report it is shown within the Expenses. Is it possible to have it shown like
below displaying ( two expenses )

Expense COGS
- Food
- Beverages

Expense Operating
- Advertising
- Auto
---Fees
---Gas
---Parking
---Repair and Maintenance   
---Bank Service Charge
etc etc

Thank You,

Jimmy



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Re: [GNC] How to reorder account tree AND transactions?

2019-05-02 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 5/2/19 5:56 PM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Ahhh...  It worked beautifully.  Now the way I want it.  Schwab, here
> I come.  Thank you.
>
> Jeff Earickson


You are welcome. 


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Re: [GNC] How to reorder account tree AND transactions?

2019-05-02 Thread Jeff Earickson
Steve,

Ahhh...  It worked beautifully.  Now the way I want it.  Schwab, here I
come.  Thank you.

Jeff Earickson

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 8:45 PM Stephen M. Butler  wrote:

> On 5/2/19 5:20 PM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I stared at the FAQ "How can I reorder accounts in the account tree?" and
> > searched the archives, but remain stumped.
> >
> > A while back I opened a Schwab checking account, and I've got a couple of
> > years worth of transactions in it.  Now I want to reorder the account
> > structure from:
> >
> > Schwab.  $xxx.xx   (a simple account with some money in it and s
> > transaction history)
> >
> > to
> >
> > Schwab  (a folder)
> >  Checking...   (same as above, with all of the transactions carried
> > down)
> >  Brokerage (new folder)
> >   (new sub-accounts under here)
> >
> > I tried editing account names by sticking in "::", eg trying to change
> > "Schwab" to Schwab::Checking" but that didn't fly.  Any way to do this?
>
> I would start by editing the existing Schwab account and change the name
> to Schwab-Checking (will make other changes a few steps down).
>
> Next create a new Schwab account marking it as a placeholder.
>
> Here I would edit the Schwab-Checking account to make it a child of the
> newly created Schwab account.  Probably change the name to its final
> form at the same time.
>
> Now create the new Brokerage folder as a child to the new Schwab account.
>
> Add sub-folders as desired under the Brokerage folder.
>
>
> It's a multi-step process but all in the accounts page and just
> edit/create as needed.  The hangup is you need to get the existing
> Schwab account out of the way (new temp name) in order to create it's
> new parent that has it's name.
>
> --Steve
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Re: [GNC] Book keeping/accounting of club project funds

2019-05-02 Thread Roderick Anderson

Thanks Rich.

Yeah still in Idaho so and because our assets are so small we have only 
an Annual Report.  At least that's what the Secretary of State says.  :-)


Federal tax reporting is just a simple.

Somewhere/when the decision must have been made to not carry hardware on 
the books.  Feels odd to me but I don't buck it.  More work for a 
volunteer position.


I'm still looking for a CPA that will help us pro bono.  Right now the 
great people on this list are my resource.  :-)


Again thanks for the thoughts.


Rod
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On 5/2/19 4:06 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Thu, 2 May 2019, Roderick Anderson wrote:


Cryptic enough? :-)


Hey Rod!

How should I make entries for club project funds. I am the treasurer 
for a

small 501(c)(3). Our income is mainly memberships (dues), cash donations,
and an annual swap meet like event.


First, I'd check with a CPA for financial reporting requirements where you
are (still Idaho?)


First off I have almost no experience in accounting and mostly on-the-job
learning. I inherited a Quick Books system that I imported into GNUCash.
I've made some modifications to that account structure.


Accounting experience not required, only the ability to keep books 
properly.



I am using three Asset accounts. Checking, Savings, and Petty cash.



I've been asked to track the funding(?) for the clubs main project, HAM
radio repeaters. We paid for them out of checking. Some of it before I
became treasurer. We are now needing to enhance those systems so we've
asked for donations specifically for this purpose - a Repeater fund.


Create income and expense accounts for repeater purchases. Perhaps a
separate expense account for delivery charges.

Also have income accounts for membership dues, refunds (to you from 
returned

purchases), bank interest, and other (infrequent and incidental revenues).
If you have bank charges, you need an expense account for bank interest
charges, you might want an expense account for postage, office supplies,
computer equipment, etc.

Go for it!

Best regards,

Rich

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Re: [GNC] How to reorder account tree AND transactions?

2019-05-02 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 5/2/19 5:20 PM, Jeff Earickson wrote:
> All,
>
> I stared at the FAQ "How can I reorder accounts in the account tree?" and
> searched the archives, but remain stumped.
>
> A while back I opened a Schwab checking account, and I've got a couple of
> years worth of transactions in it.  Now I want to reorder the account
> structure from:
>
> Schwab.  $xxx.xx   (a simple account with some money in it and s
> transaction history)
>
> to
>
> Schwab  (a folder)
>  Checking...   (same as above, with all of the transactions carried
> down)
>  Brokerage (new folder)
>   (new sub-accounts under here)
>
> I tried editing account names by sticking in "::", eg trying to change
> "Schwab" to Schwab::Checking" but that didn't fly.  Any way to do this?

I would start by editing the existing Schwab account and change the name
to Schwab-Checking (will make other changes a few steps down).

Next create a new Schwab account marking it as a placeholder.

Here I would edit the Schwab-Checking account to make it a child of the
newly created Schwab account.  Probably change the name to its final
form at the same time.

Now create the new Brokerage folder as a child to the new Schwab account.

Add sub-folders as desired under the Brokerage folder.


It's a multi-step process but all in the accounts page and just
edit/create as needed.  The hangup is you need to get the existing
Schwab account out of the way (new temp name) in order to create it's
new parent that has it's name.

--Steve

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[GNC] How to reorder account tree AND transactions?

2019-05-02 Thread Jeff Earickson
All,

I stared at the FAQ "How can I reorder accounts in the account tree?" and
searched the archives, but remain stumped.

A while back I opened a Schwab checking account, and I've got a couple of
years worth of transactions in it.  Now I want to reorder the account
structure from:

Schwab.  $xxx.xx   (a simple account with some money in it and s
transaction history)

to

Schwab  (a folder)
 Checking...   (same as above, with all of the transactions carried
down)
 Brokerage (new folder)
  (new sub-accounts under here)

I tried editing account names by sticking in "::", eg trying to change
"Schwab" to Schwab::Checking" but that didn't fly.  Any way to do this?
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Re: [GNC] Book keeping/accounting of club project funds

2019-05-02 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 5/2/19 3:18 PM, Roderick Anderson wrote:
> Cryptic enough? :-)
>

> How should I make entries for club project funds.
>
> I am the treasurer for a small 501(c)(3).  Our income is mainly
> memberships (dues), cash donations, and an annual swap meet like event.
>
> First off I have almost no experience in accounting and mostly
> on-the-job learning.  I inherited a Quick Books system that I imported
> into GNUCash.  I've made some modifications to that account structure.
>
> I am using three Asset accounts.  Checking, Savings, and Petty cash.
>
> I've been asked to track the funding(?) for the clubs main project,
> HAM radio repeaters.  We paid for them out of checking.  Some of it
> before I became treasurer.
>   We are now needing to enhance those systems so we've asked for
> donations specifically for this purpose - a Repeater fund.
>
> So when the funds come in how do I book them?  That the right term?
> Previously I just deposited the funds to checking.  And we used them
> as needed though there wasn't enough in the fund so the rest came out
> of the checking asset.
>
> I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to handle this?
>
>
> TIA,
> Rod

In addition to the other suggestions, I'd look to having sub-accounts
under checking and set flags such that checking includes the
sub-accounts in a roll-up accounting.  With sub-accounts you could break
out the funds held in the checking account for the purposes for which
the funds have been reserved.

Have fun and 73.

--KG7JE

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Re: [GNC] Uninstall GC

2019-05-02 Thread John Ralls



> On May 2, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Stephen M. Butler  wrote:
> 
> On 5/2/19 1:48 PM, Dennis Powless wrote:
>> I've got GC 3.1 installed on my laptop running Ubuntu 19.04.  Built from
>> source.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This was the command I ran to install GC back then.
>> 
>> cmake -DWITH_AQBANKING=OFF -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local
>> /home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1
>> 
>> So, my build directory is  Applications/gnucash-3.1   ???  right.
> 
> 
> Probably not.  Since you gave a full path (not relative) to the source,
> your build location could be nearly anywhere.  Specifically, it would be
> where you were at when the cmake was issued. 
> 
> Usually it is in a "build-xxx" folder just under Applications (next door
> to gnucash-3.1).  However, some use a '.build' folder inside the source
> code (dpkg_buildpackage does that).
> 
> You will need to find all the 'make' files and see which one contains
> the build for 3.1.
> 
>> 
>> I then did this
>> 
>> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~/Applications/gnucash-3.1$ make uninstall
>> make: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'.  Stop.
>> 
>> This was the output.

Or just
  rm -rf ~/Applications/gnucash-3.1

You could even leave it there and just remove ~/Applications/gnucash-3.1/bin 
from $PATH and/or delete the desktop file if that's how you launch GnuCash. 
Installing GnuCash from apt will put everything in /usr like all of the other 
programs on the machine and install a new desktop file pointing there.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread John Ralls
Right.

The problem is that you build GnuCash on Ubuntu 18.04 that provides 
libboost-regex.so.1.65.0 then upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 that provides 
libboost-regex.so.1.67.0 instead. When the linker tries to assemble gnucash to 
run it it can't find libboost-regex.so.1.65.0 because it's no longer there. It 
raises the error you reported:
gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

* You can try to find libboost-1.65 and install it alongside libboost-1.67  
(you'll also need to get whatever version of ICU was provided on Ubuntu 18.04). 
Don't use apt, it doesn't understand having two versions of the same package 
installed and you'll break a lot of other stuff if you remove the current boost 
and ICU libraries. 

* You can rebuild GnuCash so that it's linked to the newer libraries. 

* You can trash your self-build GnuCash and get the newer one from apt.

The last option is the safest because that way the next time you upgrade apt 
will upgrade GnuCash along with everything else.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 2, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
> 
> So, just to be clear I wasn't trying to build GC, just run it and after an 
> upgraded ubuntu.  From what I can tell, I'll need to uninstall GC and then 
> reinstall it. 
> 
> I'll try to fully uninstall GC and then install GC.  I'd like to have v 3.5, 
> but I've been having issues with the removal of GC after a build.  
> 
> Dennis  
> 
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:20 AM John Ralls  wrote:
> Boost has the annoying misfeature of versioning their library names so that 
> they can't be upgraded without rebuilding everything dependent on them.  
> Ubuntu 18.10 and 19.04 provide boost-1.67.0 and you built GnuCash with 
> boost-1.65.0.
> 
> ICU has the same misfeature but GnuCash doesn't directly link it so that 
> won't generally affect folks building on Linux.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> > On May 2, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
> > 
> > I ran:  sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
> > 
> > Same output as before.
> > 
> > D
> > 
> > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:51 AM Dennis Powless  wrote:
> > 
> >> Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I see
> >> boost as a dependency.
> >> 
> >> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
> >> gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
> >> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >> 
> >> 
> >> d
> >> 
> >> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the dock
> >>> on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
> >>> screen.
> >>> 
> >>> I'm using GC 3.1
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Dennis
> >>> 
> >> 
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Re: [GNC] Book keeping/accounting of club project funds

2019-05-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 2 May 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:


I've been asked to track the funding(?) for the clubs main project, HAM
radio repeaters. We paid for them out of checking. Some of it before I
became treasurer. We are now needing to enhance those systems so we've
asked for donations specifically for this purpose - a Repeater fund.


Rod,

Forgot to suggest you set up Business -> Vendor account for your hardware
provider(s) and anyone else who the organization needs to pay. Set up an
asset account for accounts payable, enter (and post) invoices there, then
pay them by either printing checks or writing checks by hand.

Rich

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Re: [GNC] Check Printing Question

2019-05-02 Thread Jay Ridgley

On 4/30/19 7:28 PM, David Reiser wrote:



On Apr 30, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Jay Ridgley  wrote:

Good evening,

I use Quicken Wallet Style checks. Is there a way to include a line of text between the 
amount and the signature line? I need is to place the text "Void after ninety 
days" on every check written. I don't need to order more checks since the account 
will be closed in July.

Please advise.

Thanks,
Jay
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Yes. See Appendix D of the Tutuorial and Concepts Guide for all the gory 
details. You pretty much have to add one line to the check format file.
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Thanks Dave. I was able to figure it out, I just had to determine where 
it was to print.


Cheers,
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Re: [GNC] Book keeping/accounting of club project funds

2019-05-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 2 May 2019, Roderick Anderson wrote:


Cryptic enough? :-)


Hey Rod!


How should I make entries for club project funds. I am the treasurer for a
small 501(c)(3). Our income is mainly memberships (dues), cash donations,
and an annual swap meet like event.


First, I'd check with a CPA for financial reporting requirements where you
are (still Idaho?)


First off I have almost no experience in accounting and mostly on-the-job
learning. I inherited a Quick Books system that I imported into GNUCash.
I've made some modifications to that account structure.


Accounting experience not required, only the ability to keep books properly.


I am using three Asset accounts. Checking, Savings, and Petty cash.



I've been asked to track the funding(?) for the clubs main project, HAM
radio repeaters. We paid for them out of checking. Some of it before I
became treasurer. We are now needing to enhance those systems so we've
asked for donations specifically for this purpose - a Repeater fund.


Create income and expense accounts for repeater purchases. Perhaps a
separate expense account for delivery charges.

Also have income accounts for membership dues, refunds (to you from returned
purchases), bank interest, and other (infrequent and incidental revenues).
If you have bank charges, you need an expense account for bank interest
charges, you might want an expense account for postage, office supplies,
computer equipment, etc.

Go for it!

Best regards,

Rich

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Re: [GNC] 8.1 Find (^F) set default search preferences?

2019-05-02 Thread David Carlson
The part of the ^F search that I get most frustrated with is that it only
searches the split lines belonging to the register that you start in, so I
usually have to start by going to the CoA window or open a Ledger window
before starting my search.  An option to search all transaction accounts
without leaving the current account register would be very nice.

David Carlson

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 5:01 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> `Memo` is the field for each split where you can put detailed information
> about that split. It is the second column, the wide one. (first column is
> called `Action`)
>
> To see splits, you either have to click the Split button on the toolbar,
> the Show Splits link on a transaction, or switch to Transaction Journal
> View or Auto-Split View.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On May 2, 2019, at 4:55 PM, elvis  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Adrian,
> >
> > I have never used find in 12 years :-)
> >
> > but I am interested, what is this memo you speak of? I looked and can
> see it as a sort field in the register, but not as a register heading or in
> a split?
> >
> >
> > Lawrence
> >
>
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[GNC] Book keeping/accounting of club project funds

2019-05-02 Thread Roderick Anderson

Cryptic enough? :-)

How should I make entries for club project funds.

I am the treasurer for a small 501(c)(3).  Our income is mainly 
memberships (dues), cash donations, and an annual swap meet like event.


First off I have almost no experience in accounting and mostly 
on-the-job learning.  I inherited a Quick Books system that I imported 
into GNUCash.  I've made some modifications to that account structure.


I am using three Asset accounts.  Checking, Savings, and Petty cash.

I've been asked to track the funding(?) for the clubs main project, HAM 
radio repeaters.  We paid for them out of checking.  Some of it before I 
became treasurer.
  We are now needing to enhance those systems so we've asked for 
donations specifically for this purpose - a Repeater fund.


So when the funds come in how do I book them?  That the right term? 
Previously I just deposited the funds to checking.  And we used them as 
needed though there wasn't enough in the fund so the rest came out of 
the checking asset.


I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to handle this?


TIA,
Rod
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Re: [GNC] * Unsaved book - Gnucash

2019-05-02 Thread Michael Hendry
> On 2 May 2019, at 23:07, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 5:44 pm, Michael Hendry wrote:
>> 
>> PS Panic over!
>> 
>> I removed all files created after the last known good .gnucash backup file
>> - MDH.gnucash.20190502173103.gnucash - to a safe place.
>> 
>> I then started Gnucash 3.4 in the normal way, and opened this backup file
>> when prompted for a filename.
>> 
>> I made a couple of entries, saved as MDH.gnucash and Quit Gnucash.
>> 
>> This time I was able to open the resulting file with Gnucash 3.5, make an
>> entry, save and exit in the normal way.
>> 
>> I’ll keep a careful eye on developments over the next few days.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Michael Hendry
> 
> Please keep in mind that on the Mac, double-clicking on a GnuCash file has
> no effect.  It will start GnuCash, but GnuCash will ALWAYS open the
> last-used file and NOT (necessarily) the one you double-clicked.  This is
> a Mac-specific limitation.

Thanks for the reminder, Derek.

I was already well aware of this from experience with other non-native 
applications (e.g. Libreoffice, which also tends to crash when asked to open an 
email attachment if it is not already running).

This was why I had to shift the (presumably corrupt) MDH.gnucash file out of 
the way before running 3.4 and opening the most recent good backup.

It’s always good to know there are experienced eyes monitoring what’s going on 
on the list.

Regards,

Michael

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Re: [GNC] * Unsaved book - Gnucash

2019-05-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Michael,

On Thu, May 2, 2019 5:44 pm, Michael Hendry wrote:
>
> PS Panic over!
>
> I removed all files created after the last known good .gnucash backup file
> - MDH.gnucash.20190502173103.gnucash - to a safe place.
>
> I then started Gnucash 3.4 in the normal way, and opened this backup file
> when prompted for a filename.
>
> I made a couple of entries, saved as MDH.gnucash and Quit Gnucash.
>
> This time I was able to open the resulting file with Gnucash 3.5, make an
> entry, save and exit in the normal way.
>
> I’ll keep a careful eye on developments over the next few days.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Hendry

Please keep in mind that on the Mac, double-clicking on a GnuCash file has
no effect.  It will start GnuCash, but GnuCash will ALWAYS open the
last-used file and NOT (necessarily) the one you double-clicked.  This is
a Mac-specific limitation.

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Re: [GNC] 8.1 Find (^F) set default search preferences?

2019-05-02 Thread Adrien Monteleone
`Memo` is the field for each split where you can put detailed information about 
that split. It is the second column, the wide one. (first column is called 
`Action`)

To see splits, you either have to click the Split button on the toolbar, the 
Show Splits link on a transaction, or switch to Transaction Journal View or 
Auto-Split View.

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 2, 2019, at 4:55 PM, elvis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> I have never used find in 12 years :-)
> 
> but I am interested, what is this memo you speak of? I looked and can see it 
> as a sort field in the register, but not as a register heading or in a split?
> 
> 
> Lawrence
> 


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Re: [GNC] * Unsaved book - Gnucash

2019-05-02 Thread Michael Hendry
> On 2 May 2019, at 21:59, Michael Hendry  wrote:
> 
>> On 2 May 2019, at 00:47, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> I sure hope so.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
> 
> Thanks, John.
> 
> Encouraged by your confidence in 3.5, I downloaded and installed it this 
> afternoon, from here:
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/
> 
> Having mounted the DMG file (Gnucash-Intel-3.5-1.dmg) I dragged and dropped 
> the Gnucash.app across to the Applications folder, and ran it from there on 
> my current (version 3.4) file.
> 
> On the first run Gnucash shut down without any apparent reason (this seems to 
> be a common finding), but I ran it again and entered a few transactions 
> without trouble.
> 
> I saved and closed the file as normal.
> 
> When next I opened the same file the account registers were opened as I had 
> left them, but the program wouldn’t respond at all, and the menu bar had none 
> of the usual menu items, just the Apple symbol and “Gnucash”.
> 
> I was unable to shut Gnucash down using the usual methods, so had to Force 
> Quit, and when I tried again I got the file lock warning - I said Open 
> Anyway, but the result was the same.
> 
> I’ve since tried opening the same file with version 3.4, but that behaved in 
> exactly the same way.
> 
> I’ve also tried downloading and reinstalling 3.5-1, with no change in the 
> outcome.
> 
> Where do I go from here?
> 
> Michael Hendry


PS Panic over!

I removed all files created after the last known good .gnucash backup file - 
MDH.gnucash.20190502173103.gnucash - to a safe place.

I then started Gnucash 3.4 in the normal way, and opened this backup file when 
prompted for a filename.

I made a couple of entries, saved as MDH.gnucash and Quit Gnucash.

This time I was able to open the resulting file with Gnucash 3.5, make an 
entry, save and exit in the normal way.

I’ll keep a careful eye on developments over the next few days.

Regards,

Michael Hendry
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Re: [GNC] Uninstall GC

2019-05-02 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 5/2/19 1:48 PM, Dennis Powless wrote:
> I've got GC 3.1 installed on my laptop running Ubuntu 19.04.  Built from
> source.
>
>
>
> This was the command I ran to install GC back then.
>
> cmake -DWITH_AQBANKING=OFF -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local
> /home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1
>
> So, my build directory is  Applications/gnucash-3.1   ???  right.


Probably not.  Since you gave a full path (not relative) to the source,
your build location could be nearly anywhere.  Specifically, it would be
where you were at when the cmake was issued. 

Usually it is in a "build-xxx" folder just under Applications (next door
to gnucash-3.1).  However, some use a '.build' folder inside the source
code (dpkg_buildpackage does that).

You will need to find all the 'make' files and see which one contains
the build for 3.1.

>
> I then did this
>
> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~/Applications/gnucash-3.1$ make uninstall
> make: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'.  Stop.
>
> This was the output.
>
> Dennis


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Re: [GNC] * Unsaved book - Gnucash

2019-05-02 Thread Michael Hendry via gnucash-user
> On 2 May 2019, at 00:47, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> I sure hope so.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls

Thanks, John.

Encouraged by your confidence in 3.5, I downloaded and installed it this 
afternoon, from here:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/

Having mounted the DMG file (Gnucash-Intel-3.5-1.dmg) I dragged and dropped the 
Gnucash.app across to the Applications folder, and ran it from there on my 
current (version 3.4) file.

On the first run Gnucash shut down without any apparent reason (this seems to 
be a common finding), but I ran it again and entered a few transactions without 
trouble.

I saved and closed the file as normal.

When next I opened the same file the account registers were opened as I had 
left them, but the program wouldn’t respond at all, and the menu bar had none 
of the usual menu items, just the Apple symbol and “Gnucash”.

I was unable to shut Gnucash down using the usual methods, so had to Force 
Quit, and when I tried again I got the file lock warning - I said Open Anyway, 
but the result was the same.

I’ve since tried opening the same file with version 3.4, but that behaved in 
exactly the same way.

I’ve also tried downloading and reinstalling 3.5-1, with no change in the 
outcome.

Where do I go from here?

Michael Hendry

> 
> 
>> On May 1, 2019, at 8:32 AM, Michael Hendry  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1 May 2019, at 16:02, John Ralls  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 1, 2019, at 6:46 AM, Michael Hendry  
 wrote:
 
 I’m using version 3.4 on Mac OS X High Sierra.
 
 This comes up briefly in the Gnucash title bar when I’ve finished working 
 on one file and File->Open another one, although the file that is being 
 closed has definitely been saved already.
 
 It doesn’t seem to have any adverse effect (apart from operator anxiety).
>>> 
>>> Michael,
>>> 
>>> GnuCash is currently written to always have a book to the point that when 
>>> switching from one to another it creates one for the brief interval while 
>>> the old one is closed and the new one is loading. That's the indication 
>>> you're seeing. 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, John.
>> 
>> I had suffered from premature Gnucash shutdown during file saving when I 
>> first started using 3.4, so I was alarmed that something similar might be 
>> happening.
>> 
>> IIRC that particular bug is fixed in 3.5.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Michael Hendry
> 


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[GNC] Uninstall GC

2019-05-02 Thread Dennis Powless
I've got GC 3.1 installed on my laptop running Ubuntu 19.04.  Built from
source.



This was the command I ran to install GC back then.

cmake -DWITH_AQBANKING=OFF -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local
/home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1

So, my build directory is  Applications/gnucash-3.1   ???  right.

I then did this

dennis@dennisLaptop1:~/Applications/gnucash-3.1$ make uninstall
make: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'.  Stop.

This was the output.

Dennis
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I built the debian package for GnC 3.5 while on Ubuntu 18.04.  I since
upgraded to 19.04 and found that GnC worked for me.  Since then I've
been unable to build the debian package for GnC 3.5 on 19,04.  I am
still working through the issues.

Others have indicated that the debian packages built under 18.04 will
not install on 19.04 (though they will install under 18.10 and earlier).

I have not tried to compile GnC 3.5 on my box outside of building the
debian package.  That may be my next step to ensure I can at least
compile and install locally.

Sorry I have so many other projects also demanding my time.  So far,
current technology indicates it will take 20-25 years to grow a viable
clone (or two).

--Steve


On 5/2/19 1:17 PM, Dennis Powless wrote:
> So, just to be clear I wasn't trying to build GC, just run it and after an
> upgraded ubuntu.  From what I can tell, I'll need to uninstall GC and then
> reinstall it.
>
> I'll try to fully uninstall GC and then install GC.  I'd like to have v
> 3.5, but I've been having issues with the removal of GC after a build.
>
> Dennis
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:20 AM John Ralls  wrote:
>
>> Boost has the annoying misfeature of versioning their library names so
>> that they can't be upgraded without rebuilding everything dependent on
>> them.  Ubuntu 18.10 and 19.04 provide boost-1.67.0 and you built GnuCash
>> with boost-1.65.0.
>>
>> ICU has the same misfeature but GnuCash doesn't directly link it so that
>> won't generally affect folks building on Linux.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Dennis Powless 
>> wrote:
>>> I ran:  sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
>>>
>>> Same output as before.
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:51 AM Dennis Powless 
>> wrote:
 Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I
>> see
 boost as a dependency.

 dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
 gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


 d

 On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless 
 wrote:

> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the
>> dock
> on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
> screen.
>
> I'm using GC 3.1
>
>
> Dennis
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Re: [GNC] column widths - balance

2019-05-02 Thread David Carlson
Every column except the description can be adjusted by grabbing and
dragging the right edge with the mouse.  The balance column is a little
harder to do that way, but the double click method usually makes an
acceptable width.
For the Description drag the right edge left until the horizontal scrollbar
disappears.



On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:09 PM Jeff Albrecht  wrote:

> Try double clicking on column headers.
>
>   - Jeff
>
> On 5/2/2019 12:00 PM, Elmar wrote:
> > For some reason I can't seem to expand the column width for the
> > account balance (e.g. a bank cash money market account, last column in
> > the register) - it will only display 5 places in front of the decimal
> > point.  Is this a bug?
> >
> > GC Version: 3.5 Build ID: git 3.5+(2019-03-30) on Linux Mint 19.1 Mate
> > desktop.
> >
> > - Elmar
> >
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Dennis Powless
Yes, I did install the 1.67 version and it still didn't work.  So,
reinstall all the dependencies and reinstall GC.

d

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:20 AM John Ralls  wrote:

> Boost has the annoying misfeature of versioning their library names so
> that they can't be upgraded without rebuilding everything dependent on
> them.  Ubuntu 18.10 and 19.04 provide boost-1.67.0 and you built GnuCash
> with boost-1.65.0.
>
> ICU has the same misfeature but GnuCash doesn't directly link it so that
> won't generally affect folks building on Linux.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On May 2, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Dennis Powless 
> wrote:
> >
> > I ran:  sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
> >
> > Same output as before.
> >
> > D
> >
> > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:51 AM Dennis Powless 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I
> see
> >> boost as a dependency.
> >>
> >> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
> >> gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
> >> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>
> >>
> >> d
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the
> dock
> >>> on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
> >>> screen.
> >>>
> >>> I'm using GC 3.1
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dennis
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Dennis Powless
So, just to be clear I wasn't trying to build GC, just run it and after an
upgraded ubuntu.  From what I can tell, I'll need to uninstall GC and then
reinstall it.

I'll try to fully uninstall GC and then install GC.  I'd like to have v
3.5, but I've been having issues with the removal of GC after a build.

Dennis

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:20 AM John Ralls  wrote:

> Boost has the annoying misfeature of versioning their library names so
> that they can't be upgraded without rebuilding everything dependent on
> them.  Ubuntu 18.10 and 19.04 provide boost-1.67.0 and you built GnuCash
> with boost-1.65.0.
>
> ICU has the same misfeature but GnuCash doesn't directly link it so that
> won't generally affect folks building on Linux.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On May 2, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Dennis Powless 
> wrote:
> >
> > I ran:  sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
> >
> > Same output as before.
> >
> > D
> >
> > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:51 AM Dennis Powless 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I
> see
> >> boost as a dependency.
> >>
> >> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
> >> gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
> >> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >>
> >>
> >> d
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the
> dock
> >>> on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
> >>> screen.
> >>>
> >>> I'm using GC 3.1
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dennis
> >>>
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Re: [GNC] column widths - balance

2019-05-02 Thread Jeff Albrecht

Try double clicking on column headers.

 - Jeff

On 5/2/2019 12:00 PM, Elmar wrote:
For some reason I can't seem to expand the column width for the 
account balance (e.g. a bank cash money market account, last column in 
the register) - it will only display 5 places in front of the decimal 
point.  Is this a bug?


GC Version: 3.5 Build ID: git 3.5+(2019-03-30) on Linux Mint 19.1 Mate 
desktop.


- Elmar



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[GNC] column widths - balance

2019-05-02 Thread Elmar
For some reason I can't seem to expand the column width for the account 
balance (e.g. a bank cash money market account, last column in the 
register) - it will only display 5 places in front of the decimal 
point.  Is this a bug?


GC Version: 3.5 Build ID: git 3.5+(2019-03-30) on Linux Mint 19.1 Mate 
desktop.


- Elmar



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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread John Ralls
Boost has the annoying misfeature of versioning their library names so that 
they can't be upgraded without rebuilding everything dependent on them.  Ubuntu 
18.10 and 19.04 provide boost-1.67.0 and you built GnuCash with boost-1.65.0.

ICU has the same misfeature but GnuCash doesn't directly link it so that won't 
generally affect folks building on Linux.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 2, 2019, at 1:11 AM, Dennis Powless  wrote:
> 
> I ran:  sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
> 
> Same output as before.
> 
> D
> 
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:51 AM Dennis Powless  wrote:
> 
>> Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I see
>> boost as a dependency.
>> 
>> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
>> gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
>> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> 
>> 
>> d
>> 
>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the dock
>>> on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> I'm using GC 3.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dennis
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Geert Janssens
Op donderdag 2 mei 2019 10:41:55 CEST schreef Dennis Powless:
> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ whereis gnucash
> gnucash: /home/dennis/.local/bin/gnucash
> 
> I'm surprised that I didn't have more.  I don't see any other directories.
> 
> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~/.local/bin$ ls
> gnc-fq-check  gnc-fq-helper  gnucash
> gnc-fq-dump   gnc-fq-update  gnucash-valgrind
> 
> This is the contents of that directory.
> 
> D

There will probably also be a
/home/dennis/.local/etc
/home/dennis/.local/include
/home/dennis/.local/lib (or lib64, libexec)
/home/dennis/.local/share

Those are all artifacts from a gnucash built from source (well, the last one 
will hold lots of settings from various packages in addition to build 
artifacts from your private gnucash build).

So it seems you have a local build that is interfering with the gnucash 
package installed by your package manager. I would suggest to remove your 
local installation.

The safest way to clean this up is to go back to your gnucash build directory 
and run
make uninstall
This presumes you haven't touched it after the last time you built and 
installed gnucash from source.

If that's no longer possible, you can safely remove
/home/dennis/.local/etc
/home/dennis/.local/include
/home/dennis/.local/lib (or lib64, libexec)

You can't do the same with /home/dennis/.local/share as it contains a mix of 
files installed from your build and configuration settings stored by running 
applications.
That will be more of a mess to untangle :(

From
/home/dennis/.local/share/gnucash you can remove the following files and 
directories:
accounts
checks
gtkbuilder
icons
jqplot
make-prefs-migration-script.xsl
migratable-prefs.xml
pixmaps
python
scm
tip_of_the_day.list
ui

In addition from
/home/dennis/.local/share you can remove the following files and directories:
doc
glib-2.0
gnucash
locale
man
metainfo

Next remove
/home/dennis/.local/applications/gnucash.desktop

Finally a couple of files are also stored in icons. But those shouldn't 
interfere.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread David Cousens
Dennis,

I don't know how extensive the upgrade to 19.04 was but on Linux Mint
upgrades I usually rebuild GnuCash because the Linux kernel has usually been
changed and in some cases the libraries themselves may need to be reloaded
as there will be versions in the repository built for that new OS version.
If you are buidling Gnucash you will have to have the development headers
for the dependency libraries installed but to run it you also have to
install the libraries themselves. The instructions on the BUild on Linux
page usually load both.

If you are going to build GnuCash you might as well go straight  to 3.5 and
start there. If cmake didn't throw an error then it is likely you have all
the header files for the libraries installed (these don't necessarily change
when the OS is upgraded) so you may need to install any of the libraries you
get runtime errors for. After upgrading to 19.04 it is likely you would need
to reinstall all the dependency libraries.

Steven Butler's posts re building the .deb version  for Ubuntu 19.04 on the
DEV forum may also  be worth looking at for possible problems.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"

2019-05-02 Thread Maf. King
On Wednesday, 1 May 2019 01:14:34 BST Christopher Lam wrote:

> > Sorry for long answer, hope is informative. If you have a better strategy
> > to offer, to account for your Asset:Bank -> Asset:CapitalAssets +
> > VAT:Paid-on-Purchases use cases, I'm all ears! Meanwhile the short
> > workaround above *may* be an acceptable solution for the current
> > reports...
> > 

Hi Christopher,

been thinking a bit more about this.  it seems to me that I have got more or 
less the reports I need, I just need to automate the middle step of going from 
reports totals to Bridging spreadsheet (by CSV).

Would it be possible to use a multi-column report, which contains each of my 
(maybe tweaked a bit) individual reports.

the Multi column parent could grab the bottom line totals for each of the 
contained reports and stuff them into CSV?

I have no idea if the Multi-column has hooks to grab totals from it's columns, 
or how hard that would be to implement. 

I imagine that the transaction report could be tweaked fairly easily export a 
bottom line total, if it doesn't do it already?

just some thoughts.
Maf.



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Re: [GNC] Problems with getting European share prices

2019-05-02 Thread Eric Coates

Hi John

Thanks for the pointer.

I'm told that building 3.5 from source is simple but it requires some 
screwing up of my courage.


In the meantime I have a (very) rough and ready work round (totally 
outside of GnuCash) that'll satisfy my immediate needs.


Eric

=

On 02/05/2019 01:06, John Ralls wrote:



On May 1, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Eric Coates  wrote:

Hi

This is so weird it must be me ??? otherwise pandemonium would have reigned 
here!

About two weeks ago I upgraded my system to Ubuntu 18.10 and a few days later 
to 19.04 (ironically, I was trying to get around some problems) and installed 
GnuCash from the standard repository; so I am running GnuCash 3.4 with 
Finance::Quote 1.47 on Ubuntu 19.04.

As part of my usual work process, on 30^th April I updated my share prices as 
in the past I was using Alphavantage to get UK share prices and Yahoo-JSON to 
retrieve European prices. Then, as usual, went to check that everything was OK.

Although there were no error messages and all the names of my European shares 
were shown in the Price Database window there were no prices against any of 
them ??? and I mean NO prices. I know that there were some there at the end of 
March but everything had gone. Even the little triangular thingies were 
missing. As there are only half a dozen shares in this group I thought to add 
the prices ???by hand??? but I couldn???t do it, although I could fill I the 
fields and clicking Apply gave no messages nothing appeared in the database.

A further oddity is that in the table of accounts there is a Present value 
against each of the European shares ??? to get that GnuCash must be picking up 
some price from somewhere. I???ve done some checking around and I can???t find 
a reasonable explanation of how the price is determined.

I take an archive copy of the data file at the end of each month. I have opened 
several of them (using the standard GnuCash 3.4) and get the same behaviour 
with each of them.

As I said, it must be me but - any ideas of what I???m doing wrong.

Or failing that, would I be able to open the 3.5 data file with GnuCash 2.6.21?

Eric

PS: For completeness:

I had not changed the Symbol for any share since the successful update at the 
end of March. The Yahoo site shows Deutsche Post as DPW.DE (not the DPW.F I had 
been using). Changing the symbol to DPW.DE gave no different result (again, not 
even no error message)


Sounds like https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797046, fixed in GnuCash 
3.5.

Regards,
John Ralls



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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Dennis Powless
dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ whereis gnucash
gnucash: /home/dennis/.local/bin/gnucash

I'm surprised that I didn't have more.  I don't see any other directories.

dennis@dennisLaptop1:~/.local/bin$ ls
gnc-fq-check  gnc-fq-helper  gnucash
gnc-fq-dump   gnc-fq-update  gnucash-valgrind

This is the contents of that directory.

D


On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 4:25 AM Dennis Powless  wrote:

> No, I did the upgrade to GC a while ago.  I just upgraded ubuntu and got
> the error.
>
> I guess I'll have to uninstall GC and then get 3.4
>
> d
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 4:22 AM Colin Law  wrote:
>
>> Not sure whether our posts crossed there, I meant why are you trying
>> to build gnucash 3.1 when the Ubuntu repo has 3.4?
>>
>> If you want to build from source then having upgraded Ubuntu I suspect
>> you will have to do a full rebuild.
>>
>> Colin
>>
>> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 09:17, Dennis Powless 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I ran:  sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
>> >
>> > Same output as before.
>> >
>> > D
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:51 AM Dennis Powless 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??
>> I see
>> > > boost as a dependency.
>> > >
>> > > dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
>> > > gnucash: error while loading shared libraries:
>> libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
>> > > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > d
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the
>> dock
>> > >> on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
>> > >> screen.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm using GC 3.1
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Dennis
>> > >>
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Dennis Powless
No, I did the upgrade to GC a while ago.  I just upgraded ubuntu and got
the error.

I guess I'll have to uninstall GC and then get 3.4

d

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 4:22 AM Colin Law  wrote:

> Not sure whether our posts crossed there, I meant why are you trying
> to build gnucash 3.1 when the Ubuntu repo has 3.4?
>
> If you want to build from source then having upgraded Ubuntu I suspect
> you will have to do a full rebuild.
>
> Colin
>
> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 09:17, Dennis Powless  wrote:
> >
> > I ran:  sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
> >
> > Same output as before.
> >
> > D
> >
> > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:51 AM Dennis Powless 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I
> see
> > > boost as a dependency.
> > >
> > > dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
> > > gnucash: error while loading shared libraries:
> libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
> > > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> > >
> > >
> > > d
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the
> dock
> > >> on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
> > >> screen.
> > >>
> > >> I'm using GC 3.1
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dennis
> > >>
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Colin Law
Not sure whether our posts crossed there, I meant why are you trying
to build gnucash 3.1 when the Ubuntu repo has 3.4?

If you want to build from source then having upgraded Ubuntu I suspect
you will have to do a full rebuild.

Colin

On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 09:17, Dennis Powless  wrote:
>
> I ran:  sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
>
> Same output as before.
>
> D
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:51 AM Dennis Powless  wrote:
>
> > Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I see
> > boost as a dependency.
> >
> > dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
> > gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
> > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> >
> > d
> >
> > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the dock
> >> on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
> >> screen.
> >>
> >> I'm using GC 3.1
> >>
> >>
> >> Dennis
> >>
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Colin Law
Why are you compiling and building an old version when you could
install a more recent version from the Ubuntu repository?

Colin

On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 09:14, Dennis Powless  wrote:
>
> build cmake
>
> D
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 4:10 AM Colin Law  wrote:
>>
>> How did you install gnucash?
>>
>> Colin
>>
>> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 08:55, Dennis Powless  wrote:
>> >
>> > Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I see
>> > boost as a dependency.
>> >
>> > dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
>> > gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
>> > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>> >
>> >
>> > d
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the dock
>> > > on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
>> > > screen.
>> > >
>> > > I'm using GC 3.1
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Dennis
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Dennis Powless
build cmake

D

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 4:10 AM Colin Law  wrote:

> How did you install gnucash?
>
> Colin
>
> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 08:55, Dennis Powless  wrote:
> >
> > Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I
> see
> > boost as a dependency.
> >
> > dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
> > gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
> > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> >
> > d
> >
> > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the
> dock
> > > on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
> > > screen.
> > >
> > > I'm using GC 3.1
> > >
> > >
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Dennis Powless
I ran:  sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev

Same output as before.

D

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:51 AM Dennis Powless  wrote:

> Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I see
> boost as a dependency.
>
> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
> gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
>
> d
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless 
> wrote:
>
>> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the dock
>> on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
>> screen.
>>
>> I'm using GC 3.1
>>
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Colin Law
How did you install gnucash?

Colin

On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 08:55, Dennis Powless  wrote:
>
> Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I see
> boost as a dependency.
>
> dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
> gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
>
> d
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless  wrote:
>
> > I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the dock
> > on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
> > screen.
> >
> > I'm using GC 3.1
> >
> >
> > Dennis
> >
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Dennis Powless
Do I need to add this as a dependency?  Libboost_reqex.so.1.65.1 ??  I see
boost as a dependency.

dennis@dennisLaptop1:~$ gnucash
gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_regex.so.1.65.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


d

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 2:59 AM Dennis Powless  wrote:

> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the dock
> on the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash
> screen.
>
> I'm using GC 3.1
>
>
> Dennis
>
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Re: [GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Colin Law
On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 08:02, Dennis Powless  wrote:
>
> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the dock on
> the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash screen.
>
> I'm using GC 3.1

How did you install it?  I thought 19.04 had a later version than that
as standard.
If you open a terminal and type gnucash and then hit the enter key
what do you see?

Colin
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[GNC] GC won't load on Ubuntu 19.04

2019-05-02 Thread Dennis Powless
I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 19.04 and when I click on icon on the dock on
the left, it attempts to open, then abruptly stops.   No GC splash screen.

I'm using GC 3.1


Dennis
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