Re: [GNC] Sales Tax Report

[Adrien Monteleone]

A common method is to post sales tax lines on invoices to a ’sales tax 
collected’ account or something similar.

Then when you file the reports and make the payments, you reduce the amount 
still unremitted. (some books might then employ a “sales tax due” account as an 
intermediary when filing, then reduce that account when making payments)

Reporting varies by jurisdiction of course.

I’m most familiar (in 3 US states) with filing a report of total sales and 
total taxable sales, calculating tax due on that amount, and then remitting it. 
How much you actually collected is irrelevant. (UNLESS, you collected more than 
you were supposed to, in which case, you had to remit what was actually 
collected. A business generally can’t ‘profit’ off of excessive tax charged, 
though they are in some locales allowed to deduct a tiny if not infinitesimal 
‘vendor compensation’ from the remittance)

So for some jurisdictions at least, all that would be needed is a total taxable 
sales report. Comparing that to what was charged to and collected from 
customers would otherwise be an internal auditing matter to make sure you were 
collecting the right amount so you don’t lose money or run afoul of the law.

If you need to break down sales by customer location, that can get real messy 
really fast. GnuCash isn’t really set up for it out of the box.

You might be able to employ a little extra work by putting the filter criteria 
in a note or memo. That way you can run a report restricted to matching that 
note or memo to aggregate sales.

As with all such questions, seek the advice of a local CPA before embarking on 
a particular bookkeeping method.

Regards,
Adrien


> On Jan 18, 2020 w3d18, at 9:27 PM, Keith Fetterman  
> wrote:
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> Thank you.  This report kinda works.  It doesn’t report the tax by tax table. 
>  It only reports the tax by the sales tax liability account.  But, I can make 
> it work if I create sub accounts under the liability account for each tax 
> table and assign the tax table entries to the appropriate sub account.  Seems 
> to be a bit of kludge, but maybe that’s how it is intended to work.  I am not 
> an accounting expert.
> 
> Thanks a lot for the help.
> 
> Keith
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Christopher Lam  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You may try the "Income GST Statement" report but it may not necessarily 
>> meet your needs.
>> If you wish you can file an enhancement request in bugzilla.
>> 
>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 22:27, Keith Fetterman > > wrote:
>> Is there a report in GunCash that shows sales by tax table (tax code)?  I 
>> need to file an end of year sales tax report to the state showing the sales 
>> by tax code.  I created a tax table for each customer’s city and assigned 
>> the entries to the customers.  Now, I would like to generate a sales report 
>> based on last year’s sales by tax table.  So far, I haven’t found a report 
>> that like this version 3.8, but I may not know what it’s called.  Does it 
>> exist?
>> 
>> If not, how are other people handling this common issue?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Keith
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Re: [GNC] Sales Tax Report

[Christopher Lam]

You're welcome. This report is tailor made for simple VAT as applies to
UK/Australia etc. It handles multiple VAT rates eg UK's standard 20%
reduced 5% zero-rated 0%. See last section of
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Alternate_Australian_GST_setup

If you share your account structure (and tax tables) (and example
transactions) we can review the appropriateness of this report.

On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 03:27, Keith Fetterman 
wrote:

> Christopher,
>
> Thank you.  This report kinda works.  It doesn’t report the tax by tax
> table.  It only reports the tax by the sales tax liability account.  But, I
> can make it work if I create sub accounts under the liability account for
> each tax table and assign the tax table entries to the appropriate sub
> account.  Seems to be a bit of kludge, but maybe that’s how it is intended
> to work.  I am not an accounting expert.
>
> Thanks a lot for the help.
>
> Keith
>
> On Jan 18, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Christopher Lam 
> wrote:
>
> You may try the "Income GST Statement" report but it may not necessarily
> meet your needs.
> If you wish you can file an enhancement request in bugzilla.
>
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 22:27, Keith Fetterman 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a report in GunCash that shows sales by tax table (tax code)?  I
>> need to file an end of year sales tax report to the state showing the sales
>> by tax code.  I created a tax table for each customer’s city and assigned
>> the entries to the customers.  Now, I would like to generate a sales report
>> based on last year’s sales by tax table.  So far, I haven’t found a report
>> that like this version 3.8, but I may not know what it’s called.  Does it
>> exist?
>>
>> If not, how are other people handling this common issue?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Keith
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[GNC] Unposting an Invoice - Reset Tax Tables Prompt

[Keith Fetterman]

Hi,

I am a newbie with GnuCash invoicing.  When I unpost an invoice, I receive a 
prompt that says “Reset Tax Tables to Present Values?”.  What happens when I 
answer either Yes or No?

I searched the GnuCash documentation and searched the mailing list, but I 
wasn’t able to find an answers.  

I have always answered Yes, but I would like to know what happens when I answer 
Yes or No.

Thanks
Keith
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Re: [GNC] Sales Tax Report

[Keith Fetterman]

Christopher,

Thank you.  This report kinda works.  It doesn’t report the tax by tax table.  
It only reports the tax by the sales tax liability account.  But, I can make it 
work if I create sub accounts under the liability account for each tax table 
and assign the tax table entries to the appropriate sub account.  Seems to be a 
bit of kludge, but maybe that’s how it is intended to work.  I am not an 
accounting expert.

Thanks a lot for the help.

Keith

> On Jan 18, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Christopher Lam  
> wrote:
> 
> You may try the "Income GST Statement" report but it may not necessarily meet 
> your needs.
> If you wish you can file an enhancement request in bugzilla.
> 
> On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 22:27, Keith Fetterman  > wrote:
> Is there a report in GunCash that shows sales by tax table (tax code)?  I 
> need to file an end of year sales tax report to the state showing the sales 
> by tax code.  I created a tax table for each customer’s city and assigned the 
> entries to the customers.  Now, I would like to generate a sales report based 
> on last year’s sales by tax table.  So far, I haven’t found a report that 
> like this version 3.8, but I may not know what it’s called.  Does it exist?
> 
> If not, how are other people handling this common issue?
> 
> Thanks
> Keith
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Re: [GNC] Sales Tax Report

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 1/18/2020 5:25 PM, Keith Fetterman wrote:


  I need to file an end of year sales tax report to the state showing the sales 
by tax code.  I created a tax table for each customer’s city and assigned the 
entries to the customers. .



I'm going to ask you a scary question, Keith. How do you KNOW the 
customer's city/state for legal purposes? Are you keeping that data? The 
PHYSICAL location (city/state) as opposed to the city/state/zip of the 
post office that delivers mail to that location. Postal routes do NOT 
respect state boundaries.


Of course you would be in good company with perhaps the majority of 
businesses making mistakes with addresses close to state boundaries.


Michael

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Re: [GNC] Sales Tax Report

[Christopher Lam]

You may try the "Income GST Statement" report but it may not necessarily
meet your needs.
If you wish you can file an enhancement request in bugzilla.

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 22:27, Keith Fetterman 
wrote:

> Is there a report in GunCash that shows sales by tax table (tax code)?  I
> need to file an end of year sales tax report to the state showing the sales
> by tax code.  I created a tax table for each customer’s city and assigned
> the entries to the customers.  Now, I would like to generate a sales report
> based on last year’s sales by tax table.  So far, I haven’t found a report
> that like this version 3.8, but I may not know what it’s called.  Does it
> exist?
>
> If not, how are other people handling this common issue?
>
> Thanks
> Keith
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Re: [GNC] 3.8 crash on Ubuntu 18.04

[Fred Smith]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 02:59:09PM -0800, John Ralls wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Jan 18, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Fred Smith  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all!
> > 
> > My wife just switched from Win7 to Ubunt 18.04. she has used GnuCash for 
> > many  years and is comfortable with what she uses it for.
> > 
> > I built a 3.8 for here when I set up the system, built on that system,
> > and until today it has been working fine (built it about 1.5 weeks ago).
> > 
> > All of a sudden today, when she opens an account and attempts to add a new 
> > entry OR to modify an existing entry she gets an instant crash.
> > 
> > Here are some of the pertinent entries from system logs:
> > 
> > from syslog:
> > Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138663] 
> > gnucash[20215]: segfault at f0 ip 7f6d11dca1f2 sp 7ffdbdec1418 
> > error 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f6d11d83000+eb000]
> > Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138675] Code: fe 
> > ff 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 
> > 87 f0 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 
> > 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
> > Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002039] 
> > gnucash[20549]: segfault at f0 ip 7fa57dbda1f2 sp 7fff21b341c8 
> > error 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7fa57db93000+eb000]
> > Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002051] Code: fe 
> > ff 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 
> > 87 f0 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 
> > 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
> > Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801728] 
> > gnucash[20577]: segfault at f0 ip 7f233fa8a1f2 sp 7fff789f3c28 
> > error 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f233fa43000+eb000]
> > Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801740] Code: fe 
> > ff 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 
> > 87 f0 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 
> > 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
> > 
> > from kern.log
> > Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138663] 
> > gnucash[20215]: segfault at f0 ip 7f6d11dca1f2 sp 7ffdbdec1418 
> > error 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f6d11d83000+eb000]
> > Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138675] Code: fe 
> > ff 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 
> > 87 f0 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 
> > 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
> > Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002039] 
> > gnucash[20549]: segfault at f0 ip 7fa57dbda1f2 sp 7fff21b341c8 
> > error 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7fa57db93000+eb000]
> > Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002051] Code: fe 
> > ff 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 
> > 87 f0 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 
> > 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
> > Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801728] 
> > gnucash[20577]: segfault at f0 ip 7f233fa8a1f2 sp 7fff789f3c28 
> > error 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f233fa43000+eb000]
> > Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801740] Code: fe 
> > ff 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 
> > 87 f0 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 
> > 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89h
> > 
> > Can anyone help here?
> > 
> > Is there any other info I can provide, or other steps I can do to help
> > diagnose this?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance!
> 
> It's probably https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/61. If you know how 
> you can take a stack trace to be sure. The work-around is to set 
> GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus in the environment.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls

John, thanks for the pointer! problem now solved.

from that page, it looks like it is not a new problem, wondefr if the GTK 
maintainers will ever fix it.

Fred
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Re: [GNC] 3.8 crash on Ubuntu 18.04

[John Ralls]

> On Jan 18, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> My wife just switched from Win7 to Ubunt 18.04. she has used GnuCash for many 
>  years and is comfortable with what she uses it for.
> 
> I built a 3.8 for here when I set up the system, built on that system,
> and until today it has been working fine (built it about 1.5 weeks ago).
> 
> All of a sudden today, when she opens an account and attempts to add a new 
> entry OR to modify an existing entry she gets an instant crash.
> 
> Here are some of the pertinent entries from system logs:
> 
> from syslog:
> Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138663] 
> gnucash[20215]: segfault at f0 ip 7f6d11dca1f2 sp 7ffdbdec1418 error 
> 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f6d11d83000+eb000]
> Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138675] Code: fe ff 
> 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 
> 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 
> 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
> Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002039] 
> gnucash[20549]: segfault at f0 ip 7fa57dbda1f2 sp 7fff21b341c8 error 
> 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7fa57db93000+eb000]
> Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002051] Code: fe ff 
> 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 
> 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 
> 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
> Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801728] 
> gnucash[20577]: segfault at f0 ip 7f233fa8a1f2 sp 7fff789f3c28 error 
> 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f233fa43000+eb000]
> Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801740] Code: fe ff 
> 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 
> 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 
> 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
> 
> from kern.log
> Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138663] 
> gnucash[20215]: segfault at f0 ip 7f6d11dca1f2 sp 7ffdbdec1418 error 
> 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f6d11d83000+eb000]
> Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138675] Code: fe ff 
> 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 
> 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 
> 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
> Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002039] 
> gnucash[20549]: segfault at f0 ip 7fa57dbda1f2 sp 7fff21b341c8 error 
> 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7fa57db93000+eb000]
> Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002051] Code: fe ff 
> 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 
> 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 
> 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
> Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801728] 
> gnucash[20577]: segfault at f0 ip 7f233fa8a1f2 sp 7fff789f3c28 error 
> 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f233fa43000+eb000]
> Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801740] Code: fe ff 
> 48 83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 
> 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 
> 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89h
> 
> Can anyone help here?
> 
> Is there any other info I can provide, or other steps I can do to help
> diagnose this?
> 
> Thanks in advance!

It's probably https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/61. If you know how you 
can take a stack trace to be sure. The work-around is to set GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus 
in the environment.

Regards,
John Ralls
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[GNC] Sales Tax Report

[Keith Fetterman]

Is there a report in GunCash that shows sales by tax table (tax code)?  I need 
to file an end of year sales tax report to the state showing the sales by tax 
code.  I created a tax table for each customer’s city and assigned the entries 
to the customers.  Now, I would like to generate a sales report based on last 
year’s sales by tax table.  So far, I haven’t found a report that like this 
version 3.8, but I may not know what it’s called.  Does it exist?

If not, how are other people handling this common issue?

Thanks
Keith
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Re: [GNC] Owner Contributions & Distributions

[David Cousens]

Christian,

The difference you have noted about contributins to equity is a fairly
general one common to most jurisdictions and is primarily determined as you
point out by whether the contibution comes from the operation of the
business and subject to taxation in the hands of the business or is provided
from previously taxed sources. Single taxation is a feature of most
equitable taxation systems.

AFAIK most countries in the EU and many other countries have adopted the
standards promulgated by the International Accounting Standards Board. This
is usually done by adopting the IASB produced and IFRS published standards
as the basis for their own national standards with local modifications where
required to accomodate local legislative frameworks. Some countries
including the US while not adopting the IFRS standards have a program
designed to converge their own standards to the international standards. 

This means there is a large common core of accounting which functions much
the same in most jurisdictions which is why GnuCsh works so successfully in
so many countries. On top of this there are local requirements to meet local
taxation and business legislation and regulation and sometimes just
peculiarities of traditional practice. 

David



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[GNC] 3.8 crash on Ubuntu 18.04

[Fred Smith]

Hi all!

My wife just switched from Win7 to Ubunt 18.04. she has used GnuCash for many  
years and is comfortable with what she uses it for.

I built a 3.8 for here when I set up the system, built on that system,
and until today it has been working fine (built it about 1.5 weeks ago).

All of a sudden today, when she opens an account and attempts to add a new 
entry OR to modify an existing entry she gets an instant crash.

Here are some of the pertinent entries from system logs:

from syslog:
Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138663] 
gnucash[20215]: segfault at f0 ip 7f6d11dca1f2 sp 7ffdbdec1418 error 4 
in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f6d11d83000+eb000]
Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138675] Code: fe ff 48 
83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 00 
00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 
00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002039] 
gnucash[20549]: segfault at f0 ip 7fa57dbda1f2 sp 7fff21b341c8 error 4 
in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7fa57db93000+eb000]
Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002051] Code: fe ff 48 
83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 00 
00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 
00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801728] 
gnucash[20577]: segfault at f0 ip 7f233fa8a1f2 sp 7fff789f3c28 error 4 
in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f233fa43000+eb000]
Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801740] Code: fe ff 48 
83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 00 
00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 
00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89

from kern.log
Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138663] 
gnucash[20215]: segfault at f0 ip 7f6d11dca1f2 sp 7ffdbdec1418 error 4 
in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f6d11d83000+eb000]
Jan 18 15:29:12 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189871.138675] Code: fe ff 48 
83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 00 
00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 
00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002039] 
gnucash[20549]: segfault at f0 ip 7fa57dbda1f2 sp 7fff21b341c8 error 4 
in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7fa57db93000+eb000]
Jan 18 15:30:37 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [189956.002051] Code: fe ff 48 
83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 00 
00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 
00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89
Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801728] 
gnucash[20577]: segfault at f0 ip 7f233fa8a1f2 sp 7fff789f3c28 error 4 
in libgdk-3.so.0.2200.30[7f233fa43000+eb000]
Jan 18 15:31:30 carolyn-ThinkCentre-M72e kernel: [190008.801740] Code: fe ff 48 
83 c4 40 89 05 dc dc 2a 00 5b 5d 41 5c c3 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 48 8b 87 f0 00 
00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 
00 41 55 41 54 55 53 48 89h

Can anyone help here?

Is there any other info I can provide, or other steps I can do to help
diagnose this?

Thanks in advance!

Fred

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Re: [GNC] Problem with colons in account names

[Greg Feneis]

I think having colons in names of things interferes with GnuCash's
auto-fill/lookup scheme when filling certain fields in a transaction.  The
colon is a special character that accepts an autofill suggestion and lists
a sub selection list based on what the user types.  EG, account name colon
sub account name, and so on. Perhaps the same name suggestion/lookup
function is used for security names, so it triggers an error about account
names that should now be more generalized?

However, I don't know why you still get the error message if you've edited
all colons out.

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 19:15  wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> First, thanks for the continuing excellent work on Gnucash in the Dec.
> release. I know it is a lot of work for the team; it is not thankless work.
>
> I recently set up some stock stocks in the Security editor and created
> corresponding asset accounts as described in the documentation. The symbols
> I was given had colons in them, in the form symbol:currency, such as
> ABCD:USD, so I added these as the symbol and display symbol in the security
> editor.
>
> When I next started Gnucash I was warned that I had account names with
> colons, which is not true, I had securities linked to the accounts, and
> they had the symbols I just described. Regardless, I edited each of the
> securities to remove the trailing :USD parts, but I still see the warnings
> on starting up.
>
> Any suggestions for the correct fix are appreciated.
>
> Ron
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Re: [GNC] Owner Contributions & Distributions

[Christian Lynbech]

For what it is worth, but for single person company in Denmark, there is a 
distinction between the result of the company (income - expenses) and money you 
put into or take out of the company (which relate to equity, as others have 
pointed out).

When I started my company, I moved some money from my personal bank account to 
my company bank account. The transaction in the company books then involves the 
bank account and the equity account, increasing both.

Tax-wise, the distinction is that money that is earned in the company should be 
taxed, money added to equity is not taxed (since it has already been taxed 
once, when it was payed to me as salary).

Disclaimer: I am not an accountant and is still trying to learn about tHis 
stuff.  

/Christian

> Den 18. jan. 2020 kl. 01.30 skrev Stephen M. Butler :
> 
> I do both. 
> 
> I have a sole proprietorship that shares the same books with my personal
> activities.  At least in this state (Washington, USA), it is just me
> doing business using a trade name.  But, the trade name and I are the
> same legal entity.  In that case I just opened another checking account
> at my credit union that is accessed via the same login as my other
> personal accounts.  In GnC, I just set that up as another checking
> account under the same parent asset account as my other accounts
> (checking, savings, money market, etc).  So, I can just move money
> between them and all is good as long as I make the same transfer in GnC.
> 
> I also have an LLC that my wife co-owns with her business associate. 
> That has it's own set up books.  In my personal books I set that up as
> an Asset account to which I add money as needed.  When the time comes
> I'll be able to draw money out of that asset.  On the LLC set of books
> my accounts show up in their Equity as Ownership entries.  When they pay
> me they have to decide if they are reimbursing me for some reimbursable
> expense, paying me for some work I did, or paying dividends.  That
> affects how the LLC books enter the transactions.  Likewise, in my books
> I have to make similar entries (reimbursable expenses are booked on my
> side as an Asset:Reimbursable (for one side of the split).  When I get
> paid it offsets that value (returns it toward zero) transferring that
> asset to Checking (if I deposited it).  Payment for work done simply
> becomes an income account with the other side going to my checking (just
> as for any other work I do).  Dividends -- well, they haven't paid any
> yet!  So I haven't had to figure that one out.  But it should be like
> dividends from any other stock (or CD or interest bearing account) that
> you own.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> --Steve
> 
>> On 1/17/20 2:40 PM, Don Ireland wrote:
>> I wasn't planning to as I think that would really really complicate
>> the books.
>> 
>> On January 17, 2020 4:26:06 PM CST, "Stephen M. Butler"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>Are you mixing your personal and business in the same GnuCash file?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On 1/17/20 2:07 PM, Don Ireland wrote:
>> 
>>What I was referring to is the checking account I use for my
>>business. When I make what the bank sees as a deposit, I need
>>to account for it in my books. My books includes an asset
>>account called Business Checking. Wouldn't that deposit be
>>considered a credit? Based on what you've described, it sounds
>>like you'd treat it as a debit. I need to account for moving
>>money from my personal checking account into the business
>>account. I entered it in to my personal check register. Now I
>>need to separately account for it in the business books. On
>>January 17, 2020 3:50:03 PM CST, Adrien Monteleone
>> wrote:
>> 
>>Speak to a local CPA for details for your situation and
>>jurisdiction, but from what you can find in a basic
>>accounting text book, generally both contributions
>>(capital investments) and distributions (draws) are equity
>>accounts. The tree would look something like this: Equity
>>|_Opening Balances (already exists) |_Owner’s Equity
>>|_Investments |_Capital Investments |_Reimbursements
>>|_Earnings |_Dividendscurl
>>
>> 'https://tangerine-tulip-8sj7.squarespace.com/api/commerce/orders/export?orderStates=PENDING%2CFULFILLED%2CCANCELLED===false=2018-11-23T19%3A14%3A03.056Z=2020-01-18T07%3A59%3A59.999Z'
>>-H 'User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64;
>>rv:72.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/72.0' -H 'Accept:
>>
>> text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/webp,*/*;q=0.8'
>>-H 'Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5' --compressed -H 'DNT:
>>1' -H 'Connection: keep-alive' -H 'Referer:
>>
>> https://tangerine-tulip-8sj7.squarespace.com/config/commerce/orders'
>>-H 'Cookie: SS_MID=8eaefbac-45bf-4f31-8e67-ecc1c580eee1;
>>

Re: [GNC] Donations

[Geert Janssens]

Well I should have paid more attention. I did reply to the list anyway. Oh 
well...

Regards,

Geert

Op vrijdag 17 januari 2020 03:05:21 CET schreef Phillip Walsh:
> Have used GNUCash for some time and wish to donate via Bank Transfer .I
> used Transferwise for all my international payments, excellent
> exchange rates. But as well as bank details I have to input receivers name
> and address. So I require the address of   Geert Janssens.
> 
> From Transferwise app
> 
> "For legal reasons, we need to ask for the recipient's address (not the
> bank's address). Don't worry, they won’t get any post from us."
> 
> 
> Phillip Walsh
> 4/2 Kenneth Road
> Bayswater VIC
> Australia 3153
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Re: [GNC] Donations

[Geert Janssens]

Hi Phillip,

Thank you for your intention to support the gnucash project.

I will send you my address via this private mail as I prefer not to make it 
public on the mailing list:
Geert Janssens
Brusselsesteenweg 152
1850 Grimbergen
Belgium

Regards,

Geert


Op vrijdag 17 januari 2020 03:05:21 CET schreef Phillip Walsh:
> Have used GNUCash for some time and wish to donate via Bank Transfer .I
> used Transferwise for all my international payments, excellent
> exchange rates. But as well as bank details I have to input receivers name
> and address. So I require the address of   Geert Janssens.
> 
> From Transferwise app
> 
> "For legal reasons, we need to ask for the recipient's address (not the
> bank's address). Don't worry, they won’t get any post from us."
> 
> 
> Phillip Walsh
> 4/2 Kenneth Road
> Bayswater VIC
> Australia 3153
> 
> Mobile 0419 320 393
> Home 03 9720 7685
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Re: [GNC] Minimum window width

[Colin Law]

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 09:07, Liz  wrote:
>
> The problem went away in 3.7.

I am not able to try that at the moment, if this has been improved
that would be good.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Minimum window width

[Colin Law]

I submitted a bug for this [1] back in 2018.  The minimum window width
increased in v3 for no obvious reason.  There was some discussion of
it here but nothing came of it at the time.

Colin

[1] https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796911

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 02:26, Adrien Monteleone
 wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> I’m replying from a memory many moons ago, but I seem to recall a few 
> discussions on this list (and bug reports) around the issue of minimum 
> targeted width.
>
> I think it used to be 800. I’m not sure if that was increased. (960 would 
> easily sit side by side on a 1920 screen) It seems from your experience this 
> might be the case. If so, as far as I know, this is hard coded. But, there 
> might be some influence possible with CSS. (I’m not certain of this, you’ll 
> have to play around with it.)
>
> For starters, if you can specify a smaller font, try that first. The text 
> itself will take less space, and some UI padding might vary with font size.
>
> A ‘condensed’ version of a font is a good candidate here, because while the 
> vertical height will be the same (and thus not harder to read) the horizontal 
> width of the characters and the spacing between them (kerning) is reduced, 
> thus getting more characters per ‘line’ than the standard version of that 
> font. Since you’re trying to target width, that might be the better route to 
> go than overall font size. (of course you can do both)
>
> After that, there might be parts of the UI you can buy some padding. (or even 
> set it to zero for some elements) Certainly spacing between toolbar buttons 
> can be reduced, and you can hide the labels if they make the reserved space 
> too wide.
>
> Make sure your tabs are top or bottom placement rather than left or right.
>
> Adjusting the register itself is likely not possible but font selection might 
> help you shrink columns manually. (note, this is *per register* so you’ll 
> have to adjust columns for each and every account you want to use this way)
>
> Do a search on the wiki for the GTK page, or check the FAQ about 
> customizations. (you’ll have to traverse a few pages deep to get to the good 
> stuff, but it might not hurt to start with the FAQ and read your way to GTK 
> to get a better grasp of the task if you aren’t already familiar with it.) 
> Using the GTK inspector will help you find what parts of the UI to target for 
> a custom CSS file.
>
> Of course, outside of playing with a few fonts, a custom CSS file is not one 
> I’d consider a ’simple’ solution, but it also isn’t terribly difficult, just 
> a bit time consuming to figure out and play with till you get what you 
> want/like.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>
> > On Jan 17, 2020 w3d17, at 5:27 PM, Tim Kallmer  wrote:
> >
> > Using 3.6 on Ubuntu 19.04. Is there some setting that sets the minimum
> > width the Gnucash window uses? I like to snap GC on one half of the screen
> > and have a browser with my bank website on the other half while I am
> > recording transactions. This works fine on my desktop with 1920x1080
> > resolution. But on my laptop with with 1600x900, snapping doesn't work and
> > I can only shrink the width to what seems like 860 pixels, over one-half of
> > the screen, so it doesn't fit nicely, and I cannot see my full transactions
> > and GC simultaneously. And it takes a bit of mouse work to adjust the
> > window edges to tile them, then scroll the browser back and forth with the
> > bottom slide bar. Zooming the browser out to fit makes the text small and
> > difficult to read. I've been living with it, but thought I'd ask if there
> > is a simple solution.
>
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Re: [GNC] Minimum window width

[Liz]

On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:27:26 -0600
Tim Kallmer  wrote:

> Using 3.6 on Ubuntu 19.04. Is there some setting that sets the minimum
> width the Gnucash window uses? 
> I've been living with it, but thought I'd ask if there is a simple
> solution.

The problem went away in 3.7.
That is not necessarily a simple solution.

Liz
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