Re: [GNC] importing account info

2020-02-15 Thread David Cousens
Alan,

I think there have been some problems around the AQbanking direct
importation of OFX data in 3.8 and changes in the associated library that
have been reported in the user mailng list.  

The banks in my country (australia) are still a millenium or two out of date
and don't provide direct connection OFX data except through very selected
commercial accounting products they have partner relationships with so I
have had no experience with this. They claim this is for security reasons
but unfortunately we consumers have little control over their choices.  i
have voiced my objections but have been ignored. 

I have not yet noticed any problems in 3.8 importing the downloaded files
from the bank but if the change back to 3.7 fixed yours then that is great. 

David



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[GNC] Credit Card bill autopay

2020-02-15 Thread Viney Kumar
I have one credit card which has billing cycle of 12th of every month.
Payment is to be done on 1st of every month or 2nd if that is holiday. 
Payment is automatically deducted on 1st or 2nd (if 1st is holiday)

Can I schedule transaction of CC bill Payment every month. Like it picks up
last balance of 12th of every month and Automatically schedules it for
payment from savings account on next 1st of every month.

My Chart of accounts is:

ASSETS
--Current Assests
Savings account

Expenses
---x
---y
---z

Liabilities
---Accounts Payable
---Credit Card


Thank You,





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[GNC] Default Fraction for currencies

2020-02-15 Thread Long
Hello guys,
I'm vietnamese and want to control my finances with GnuCash. I'm using VND
as my default currency and GnuCash fraction (decimal) default for VND is
0,00. 
But for a long time go, VietNam is no longer use it anymore.

For main page account, i knew that GnuCash had setting called "smallest
fraction" for account i have created, But i have created for about 30
accounts and change fraction for each account is nightmare.

So, can i remove (or set it to default) fraction (decimal) for my currency ?
For main page account and Report.

Sorry for my bad english.



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Re: [GNC] importing account info

2020-02-15 Thread Alan Schold
David, thanks for all the analysis; I'm working through the information. 
I solved the problem by uninstalling 3.8 and installing 3.7; the info I 
needed flowed right in. It's most likely my machine, but I wonder if 
there's a bug.


On 2/9/2020 2:32 PM, David Cousens wrote:

Alan,

As the message says, the imported record is in a currency/security that does
not match the that of the account that GnuCash has assigned to it. This
could mean either  the commodity data in the input record is incorrect or
the matcher already has stored  map information which is assigning it an
account which is in the wrong currency. It is unlikely the data from your
broker may be incorrect unless the name of the security registeredon the
exchange has been changed. Just to be sure I would check at least for the
first record that the input OFX file has the commodity that is assigned to
the account you expect the transactions's second split to be assigned to.

"Invesco Preferred ETF" is not the name of an account  but should be the
name of the commodity/security specified in the input data. The GnuCash
assigned account has a commodity name "iShares Russell 2000"  which is the
same as the account name, also wierd. I would think that the "iShares
Russell 2000" account would likely have a USD ( or whatever is appropriate
to your locale) currency. If it is not a n account of type stock that may be
causing the confusion

Did you manually choose the account "iShares Russel 2000" or did GnuCash
supply that as a match? If it was the latter then somehow the account
matching data may have been screwed up. I had some wierd account assignments
when I first transition to V3 but haven't had that on the later v3 minor
version transitions.

If you choose Yes in the popup, you should get the account assignment dialog
where you can assign the correct account then at least that record is
correct. I would check the commodity of the account you wish to assign and
make sure it matches the commodity identified in the qfx input data file
first (in the Accounts tab, highlight the account, right click and select
Edit Account from the pop up menu. The security/currency box should match
the code in the input data). If assigning the correct transfer accounts
allows that record to be imported and then repeats the same error on the
next record, my guess is that the matcher data is screwed up.

There are two approaches from here. Either manually correct each record by
pressing Yes and assigning the correct account. A pain if you have a lot of
records but if you complete the import process, the new data will be
imported into the matching data for an account.

The second approach is to use the Tools->Import Map Editor to edit the
information that the account assignment is based on. This post
http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-import-map-editor-td4699101.html
may contain some useful information. Section 6.15.8 in the help manual has a
little information. It is pretty generic (I wrote it) as my understanding of
this part of the code is still very limited.  The matcher works by
tokenizing information in the descrition field (not sure about the memo
fields) and matching that to a list of tokens associated with transactions
which have been imported in the past and matched to a specific account.
Gnucash calculates a score for the number of matching tokens in the
description and each account to which assignments of transaction splits
weighted by the count of the frequency of each tokens appearance in
transactions which have been assigned in past imports and assigns the
highest scoring account. This is my current understanding of the account
matching operation and it is only from a fairly cursory exploration of the
code at this stage and a little but not much experimentation. I have
intended to get back and explore it in more detail but life catches up with
me sometimes.

if you examine the token strings for the account Gnucash is incorrectly
assigning and the tokens associated withthe account you want to be assigned
along with the input record description you may be able to identify why the
wrong account is being assigned and delete the appropriate tokens from the
account. This has a high risk of stuffing up future account assignments.  I
would play with it on a copy of your data file and a small import data
subset until you can get it to work if you take this route.  The account
matching data is stored in the XML data file so any work done on the copy
will not automatically transfer back to your main datafile.

If the datafile contains a lot of incorrect matching information as it is a
Bayesian system continuing to fix the assigned accounts and completing the
import will eventually fix things as it will change the weightings on tokens
in the files. Maybe importing in smaller batches, fixing each batch up as
you go may be the safest way to approach this.

I would like to see a feature which would allow the existing transactions in
selected accounts to be used in 

[GNC] Importing Vendor Bills: Field Definitions Questions

2020-02-15 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
Referring to the field definitions in
18.1. Importing Bills and Invoices
I tried to line those up with the three dialog boxes that come up as you create 
and post a new bill.
New Bill DialogEdit Bill DialogPost Bill Dialog (aka Question)
I think I have most of them properly associated but need help on a few...
   
   -
owner_id - Customer or vendor number. Mandatory in the first data row of an 
invoice. If not provided, all rows of the same invoice will be ignored.

I don't see "Owner ID" in any of those three screens... but I do see a field 
for the Vendors name in the "New Bill" Dialog.
However I do see it in the "Vendor Overview" list of vendorsI guess that means 
one would have to lookup the Vendor Number for each vendor's bill they are 
about to import.
(This is the case of having a clerk enter the bills into a spreadsheet so that 
a the GC admin could import them later... as when you don't want the data entry 
clerk to see all your financial data :-)

Now that I think about it that makes sense as the data entry clerk could 
misspell the vendors name or enter it differently than it is in the system... 
so maybe I just answered that one for myself.
Next I see these fields... again I couldn't find them in any of the three 
dialog boxes that appear when you are creating/entering a new bill... or did I 
miss them somewhere. Maybe somebody can point the discount fields out to me 
wherever they are.
   
   -
disc_type - Type of discount. Optional. Only relevant for invoices, not for 
bills. Use “%” or blank for percentage value, anything else for monetary value.

   -
disc_how - Discount how. Optional. Only relevant for invoices, not for bills. 
Use “>” for discount applied after tax, “=” for discount and tax applied before 
tax, and “<”, blank or anything else for discount applied before tax.

   -
discount - Amount or percentage of discount. Optional. Only relevant for 
invoices, not for bills

Another question... and maybe I missed it... but is there anyway to import 
bills from a CSV file but not have it automatically Posted?

Finally, for anyone interested...
These import fields match the "New Bill" Dialog fields...(except Billingid... 
which on the dialog is the Vendor Name field)

Id

Date_opened

owner_id

Billingid
Notes
These import fields match the Edit Bill Dialog fields(except I can find the 3 
Discount Type fields.)

Date

Desc

Action

Account

Quantity

Price

Disc_type

Disc_how

Discount

Taxable

Taxincluded

Tax_table


And finally these import fields match the Post Bill Dialog fields
Date_posted

Due_date

account_posted

Memo_posted

Accu_splits







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Re: [GNC] Where to charge? Ins pays us, we pay vendor. Resolved

2020-02-15 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 Thanks Christopher, that is exactly what we did except in this case the 
insured was covered 100% so your $150 partial payment received would have been 
$200 full payment received.
Thanks again everyone for the help.

On Thursday, February 13, 2020, 5:23:29 PM EST, Christopher Lam 
 wrote:  
 
 This is what I would do: (I assume you're the patient attending the clinic). 
Say the clinic bills $200 and Medicare pays/prepays $150 ($50 co-pay). 

I believe the Expenses:Medical:Rebates is an expense contra-account? The 
GnuCash account type would still be EXPENSE, but would become more negative 
with time.

On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 16:34, Fran_3  wrote:

Here is the original scenario:1 - Doctor billed patient2 - Insurance paid 
patient3 - Patient paid doctor

1. Clinic bills patient    Create bill, include services rendered, post to AP   
 Expenses:Medical $200    A/Payable: -$200
2. Insurance pays patient    Expenses:Medical:Rebates -$150    Bank +$150
3. Patient pays clinic    A/Payable: +$200    Bank: -$200
   
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Re: [GNC] Gnu Cash Reports

2020-02-15 Thread Maf. King
On Friday, 14 February 2020 16:14:43 GMT FRANK WILSON via gnucash-user wrote:
> Good afternoon
> Are there any reports, or can reports be created, that will list;
> i) All disbursements from start of financial year to end of financial year?
> ii) All receipts from start of financial year to end of financial year?
> iii) All vendor bills from start of financial year to end of financial year?
> iv) All customer invoices from start of financial year to end of financial
> year? Thanks in advance for any assistance/advice.
> Kind regardsFrancis Wilson

Hi Francis

the transaction report should quite happily manage i) and ii)

  and I can think of a couple of options for iii) and iv)  too, depending on 
what exactly you want to see.

HTH,
Maf.



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Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

2020-02-15 Thread Colin Law
You will learn a huge amount if you keep getting all mail, skim them,
and delete ones that are not of relevant to you.  In no time you will
find yourself helping others and putting a bit back into the
community.  If you only ask questions and take the answers then you
are not putting anything back to help others.

Colin

On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 11:42, Ron  wrote:
>
> I think I have my communication problem resolved. As I understand it, I email 
> questions to gnucash-user, and I see all gnucash-user messages in my email: I 
> am receiving individual messages which is my choice.
> If I wanted to see a collection of messages, then I would look at archives.
> I have set my preferences in settings.
> Can I restrict messages received to only my questions? Did not see that 
> option.
> I am not getting duplicate messages.
> Thank you!
>
> Ron
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user  On 
> Behalf Of Liz
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 2:33 AM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list
>
> On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 16:47:20 -0600
> Adrien Monteleone  wrote:
>
> > What do you mean by ‘archive messages’?
> >
> > Are you set to receive in digest form, or individually?
> >
> > Otherwise, there are 3 preferences I can see that would possibly
> > result in ‘duplicates’.
> >
> > 1 - Avoid duplicate copies of messages? (you’d want to set this to
> > ‘yes’ to *avoid* duplicates. That is, if you are in the To: or CC:
> > fields, the list will try not to send one to you in addition.)
> >
> > 2 - Receive your own posts to the list? (you’d want to set this to
> > ’no’ to not have the list send you a copy of what you just posted.
> > You can use your Sent box/folder or thread it appropriately according
> > to however your mail client works) This would only apply to your own
> > posts, not those of others.
> >
> > 3 - Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the list?
> > (again, you’d want to set this to ’no’ to not receive a ‘hey, you just
> > sent this to the list’ message) Again, this only applies to your own
> > posts, not those of others.
> >
> > Otherwise, I can’t see any reason why you’re getting more than 1 or
> > even 2 or more copies of every post. And it seems the problem is on
> > your end, because you’re the only one (so far) saying it is happening.
> >
> > (note, I can imagine such a mess if you had the above three
> > preferences set wrong, were not using digest mode, and sent messages
> > to the list by hitting ‘reply-all’ and you were also in the To: or
> > CC: fields, which might generate as many as 4 copies of your own
> > messages to the list.)
> >
> > If the list were spamming members with duplicates, triplicates, and
> > worse, it would be noticed and addressed.
>
> I did check Alan's message settings from gnucash-user. At the time that I 
> checked he was set the receive mails individually, and have no duplicates.
>
> Liz
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Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

2020-02-15 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Sorry, no, that isn’t a feature.

Such would be interesting. You might file an enhancement request with Mailman. 
(I suspect it would work something like Bugzilla or Github’s 
watch/subscribed/cc feature)

Just delete threads you aren’t interested in as they come through.

Digest mode gives you fewer messages to deal with, but then you have to scan 
the digest topic list each time to see if one of the messages is relevant to 
you and then scroll through the (sometimes long) digest message to get to it. 
Getting individual messages is probably the easier route.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 15, 2020 w7d46, at 5:39 AM, Ron  wrote:
> 
> I think I have my communication problem resolved. As I understand it, I email 
> questions to gnucash-user, and I see all gnucash-user messages in my email: I 
> am receiving individual messages which is my choice.
> If I wanted to see a collection of messages, then I would look at archives. 
> I have set my preferences in settings.
> Can I restrict messages received to only my questions? Did not see that 
> option.
> I am not getting duplicate messages.
> Thank you!
> 
> Ron

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Re: [GNC] Gnu Cash Reports

2020-02-15 Thread Adrien Monteleone

> On Feb 14, 2020 w7d45, at 10:14 AM, FRANK WILSON via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon
> Are there any reports, or can reports be created, that will list;
> i) All disbursements from start of financial year to end of financial year?
> ii) All receipts from start of financial year to end of financial year?

You might be able to massage the (misnamed) Cash Flow report to get something 
useful.

You might also just run Account Reports on the relevant asset accounts 
accordingly.

If you need to show multiple accounts on the same report, you can do a Find 
operation and then run an Account report, or you can use the Transaction report 
and only include the needed accounts.

However in any case, I can’t seem to find a way to only show debits *or* 
credits, but not both. You’d have to move the resulting report to a spreadsheet 
for further refinement.


> iii) All vendor bills from start of financial year to end of financial year?
> iv) All customer invoices from start of financial year to end of financial 
> year?

Doing a Find operation and then an Account Report on the AR and AP registers 
respectively you can get something useful.

The Find criteria would be to search for all transactions where ‘Action’ equals 
‘Bill’ or ‘Invoice’ respectively.

Unfortunately, the resulting Account Report will only show you the result with 
each split visible, not a single line per bill/invoice. Again, you’d have to 
move this to a spreadsheet for something a bit simpler. If you ‘consolidate 
splits’ when posting, the end result might be manageable, but if you don’t 
consolidate, the report will be a bit long in the tooth.

-

As to the question of ‘can these reports be created?’ the answer is ‘yes’ but 
report writing at this time isn’t simple or even easy.

If you don’t want to delve into Scheme code, you could use one of the database 
backends and then proceed from there with queries. Look into something called 
PieCash which has tried to make this process a bit easier.

If the existing reports allowed for filtering based on Action or better yet 
Type as used in the AR and AP registers, the last two reports would be 
trivially easy to generate.

Alternatively if the Find Bill/Invoice window allowed you to print the result 
or copy/paste it somewhere else, then you could do a find on “is posted?”. I 
suppose if the resulting list isn’t too long, and you just need a visible but 
not editable result, you could take a screenshot of the find results.

If report options allowed to ‘show only debits’ or ‘only credits’ then the 
first two would also be very easy.

Regards,
Adrien
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Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

2020-02-15 Thread Ron
I think I have my communication problem resolved. As I understand it, I email 
questions to gnucash-user, and I see all gnucash-user messages in my email: I 
am receiving individual messages which is my choice.
If I wanted to see a collection of messages, then I would look at archives. 
I have set my preferences in settings.
Can I restrict messages received to only my questions? Did not see that option.
I am not getting duplicate messages.
Thank you!

Ron

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of Liz
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 2:33 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Multiple copies of gnucash-user messages from the list

On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 16:47:20 -0600
Adrien Monteleone  wrote:

> What do you mean by ‘archive messages’?
> 
> Are you set to receive in digest form, or individually?
> 
> Otherwise, there are 3 preferences I can see that would possibly 
> result in ‘duplicates’.
> 
> 1 - Avoid duplicate copies of messages? (you’d want to set this to 
> ‘yes’ to *avoid* duplicates. That is, if you are in the To: or CC:
> fields, the list will try not to send one to you in addition.)
> 
> 2 - Receive your own posts to the list? (you’d want to set this to 
> ’no’ to not have the list send you a copy of what you just posted.
> You can use your Sent box/folder or thread it appropriately according 
> to however your mail client works) This would only apply to your own 
> posts, not those of others.
> 
> 3 - Receive acknowledgement mail when you send mail to the list?
> (again, you’d want to set this to ’no’ to not receive a ‘hey, you just 
> sent this to the list’ message) Again, this only applies to your own 
> posts, not those of others.
> 
> Otherwise, I can’t see any reason why you’re getting more than 1 or 
> even 2 or more copies of every post. And it seems the problem is on 
> your end, because you’re the only one (so far) saying it is happening.
> 
> (note, I can imagine such a mess if you had the above three 
> preferences set wrong, were not using digest mode, and sent messages 
> to the list by hitting ‘reply-all’ and you were also in the To: or
> CC: fields, which might generate as many as 4 copies of your own 
> messages to the list.)
> 
> If the list were spamming members with duplicates, triplicates, and 
> worse, it would be noticed and addressed.

I did check Alan's message settings from gnucash-user. At the time that I 
checked he was set the receive mails individually, and have no duplicates.

Liz
Moderator
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