Re: [GNC] Register layout

2020-02-20 Thread John Ralls



> On Feb 20, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Ron  wrote:
> 
> How do I re-arrange the layout of the check register to my liking?
> 
> How do I get auto-fill for the payee?

The register layout is currently hard coded, so it's "our way or the highway", 
sorry.

Auto fill works by repeating previous entries so once you've created a 
transaction for a particular payee in an account you'll get auto-fill for 
subsequent entries with the same description. You can fiddle that a bit by 
letting autocomplete fill in based on a partial entry, tabbing through to the 
debit or credit column and then tabbing back and editing the description to 
what you want for the current transaction. For example, I like the description 
of dividend reinvestments to include the number of units as a cross-check. I 
might have 

10/11/2019   Reinvest FMAGX 23.11  Assets:Investments:Fidelity:Magellan 
Fund251.67

and when it's time to do the next dividend I'll start "Reinvest FMAGX" and let 
it fill in the 23.11 and tab through so that it fills in the account for me. 
I'll edit the new value and then back-tab to the description and change the 
number of units. When I hit enter the transfer dialog will pop up where I'll 
enter the number of units again. Then when I go to reconcile the FMAGX account 
if it doesn't reconcile I can check the amount against what I put in the 
description and if there's a discrepancy it's a good clue about why it doesn't 
reconcile.

Regards,
John Ralls



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Re: [GNC] How to use input method in GnuCash installed from Flatpak ?

2020-02-20 Thread David Cousens
Long,

if you look back through the archives I think you will find some posts re
having to grant permissions to the flatpak system to access Linux system
resources.

http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html

David Cousens




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Re: [GNC] How to use input method in GnuCash installed from Flatpak ?

2020-02-20 Thread Long
i'm using ibus 1.5.17 on my linux mint 19.3 and installed GnuCash from
Flatpak



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Re: [GNC] Upgrade

2020-02-20 Thread Les

Thanks Frank.

On 2/20/20 4:41 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote:

Hello Les,

did you read https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak?

Regards
Frank

Am 20.02.20 um 22:32 schrieb Les:

I am currently using Linux Mint 19.1 and GC 2.6.19 and I am wondering if
I can upgrade to 3.8 using flatpak?

Thanks,

Les

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Re: [GNC] Failed import

2020-02-20 Thread Christopher Lam
It would be great if you could try narrow down the offending transaction
and submit the qif file in Bugzilla.

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 3:29 am Ron,  wrote:

> I thought I had this figured out and have been importing small chunks from
> Quicken. I imported 6 months twice from a credit card and it was fine.
> Tried
> to import the last 2 months and it failed. I removed 2 duplicate
> transactions, but still happened. Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Upgrade

2020-02-20 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hello Les,

did you read https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak?

Regards
Frank

Am 20.02.20 um 22:32 schrieb Les:
> I am currently using Linux Mint 19.1 and GC 2.6.19 and I am wondering if
> I can upgrade to 3.8 using flatpak?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Les

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[GNC] Upgrade

2020-02-20 Thread Les
I am currently using Linux Mint 19.1 and GC 2.6.19 and I am wondering if 
I can upgrade to 3.8 using flatpak?


Thanks,

Les

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[GNC] Register layout

2020-02-20 Thread Ron
How do I re-arrange the layout of the check register to my liking?

How do I get auto-fill for the payee?

 

Ron

 

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Re: [GNC] How to use input method in GnuCash installed from Flatpak ?

2020-02-20 Thread Frank H. Ellenberger
Hello Long,

Am 20.02.20 um 19:30 schrieb Long:
> Dear GnuCash,
> i'm vietnamese and tried to use Ibus method to type in your software
> installed from Flatpak. Because i really don't know how to install your
> software from source, read some wiki doesn't help me, maybe easiest guide
> will helpful.
> For now, the "ONLY" way is write down my things and copy it into your app,
> my god.

does your computer fulfill all requirements:
https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/675#issuecomment-344857243 ?

Regards
Frank
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[GNC] Failed import

2020-02-20 Thread Ron
I thought I had this figured out and have been importing small chunks from
Quicken. I imported 6 months twice from a credit card and it was fine. Tried
to import the last 2 months and it failed. I removed 2 duplicate
transactions, but still happened. Any ideas?

 

Ron

 

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Re: [GNC] Precision in exchange rate conversion

2020-02-20 Thread Paul Abraham
   Yes, they're both standard registers (both bank current accounts in
   fact).

   Paul

   On 20/02/2020 16:06, Derek Atkins wrote:

Hi,

Are you doing this in a standard register or in a Stock/Mutual register?
In a stock/mutual register it has inputs for quantity, amount, and
price-per-unit.  In this case, the quantity and amount are stored, and the
price-per-unit is computed.  You can enter 2/3 and GnuCash will compute
the 3rd for you, so if we recommend entering in the two stored values.

In the regular register, however, where you get an "exchange rate dialog",
that's not how it works.  In that case it DOES store and use the exchange
rate.  So if you have the rate "displayed" as a decimal then it can round
and cause this behavior.  If it's stored as a fraction, then you wont have
that behavior.

It USED to be the case that the "rate" column was hidden and always stored
as a fraction, so this wasn't an issue.  I'm not sure when it changed.

John's message reminded me of this change, but I was unaware that it
affected the rate column (which, IMHO, it should not have since it is
supposed to be a non-visible column in the standard register).

-derek

On Thu, February 20, 2020 1:53 pm, Paul Abraham wrote:

   No, sorry, that's not what I meant. I'm sure the fractional
   representation, unhelpful though it is, is right*.

   It's the fact that if I set the display setting to decimal, gnucash
   tramples on the input value for the converted amount - I enter 11102.12
   and it changes it to 11102.08. This is what is not very clever - the
   programming here . Display settings shouldn't affect actual data, and
   especially not user entered data (and even more especially not without
   advising the user - it does this silently).

   * ... well, in a sense: The arithmetic is right. But that isn't how
   exchange rates work - banks don't start from the original and converted
   values and calculate an absolutely precise ratio between the two. The
   exchange rate comes first. The original value is multiplied by the
   exchange rate (which is a decimal value) and then round the result to
   form the converted value. Gnucash's fractional version is a fiction.

   Regards

   Paul Abraham

   On 20/02/2020 01:01, John Ralls wrote:

   That's not mangling the data, it's presenting the exact value of
   11102.12/1975.10, a number that isn't representable as a decimal
   without rounding.

   As for the display being clever, of course it isn't, it's a computer.

   But it you enter the two values 11102.12 and 1975.10 GnuCash shouldn't
   change them, it should just calculate the ratio and present that as the
   price, either exactly as 5 + 61331/98755 or as  5.621041972558352
   rounded to however many decimal places. When I test that, it's exactly
   what I get, see the attached screen shot. Note the exact exchange rate
   in the exchange rate box but the rounded decimal values to the right of
   it.

   Regards,

   John Ralls

 On Feb 19, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Paul Abraham [1]<[1]p...@acasa.org.uk>
 wrote:
 Hmm. That seems to work, but it certainly isn't what I want. The
   exchange rate is now shown as "5 + 61331/98755" which is less than
   helpful - it most certainly is not how real world exchange rates
 are
   quoted, and it makes comparison almost impossible!
   Why does the display option mangle the data? That isn't very
 clever. I
   think I'll just stick in a fudge factor as a separate split to
 correct
   the total though it's a long way from ideal.
   Thanks very much for the answer, though. I can stop chasing
 moonbeams
   now ;-)

   [[2]cid:part2.62ACF325.60F042A3@acasa.org.uk]

References

   1. [3]mailto:p...@acasa.org.uk
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Re: [GNC] Precision in exchange rate conversion

2020-02-20 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi,

Are you doing this in a standard register or in a Stock/Mutual register?
In a stock/mutual register it has inputs for quantity, amount, and
price-per-unit.  In this case, the quantity and amount are stored, and the
price-per-unit is computed.  You can enter 2/3 and GnuCash will compute
the 3rd for you, so if we recommend entering in the two stored values.

In the regular register, however, where you get an "exchange rate dialog",
that's not how it works.  In that case it DOES store and use the exchange
rate.  So if you have the rate "displayed" as a decimal then it can round
and cause this behavior.  If it's stored as a fraction, then you wont have
that behavior.

It USED to be the case that the "rate" column was hidden and always stored
as a fraction, so this wasn't an issue.  I'm not sure when it changed.

John's message reminded me of this change, but I was unaware that it
affected the rate column (which, IMHO, it should not have since it is
supposed to be a non-visible column in the standard register).

-derek

On Thu, February 20, 2020 1:53 pm, Paul Abraham wrote:
>No, sorry, that's not what I meant. I'm sure the fractional
>representation, unhelpful though it is, is right*.
>
>It's the fact that if I set the display setting to decimal, gnucash
>tramples on the input value for the converted amount - I enter 11102.12
>and it changes it to 11102.08. This is what is not very clever - the
>programming here . Display settings shouldn't affect actual data, and
>especially not user entered data (and even more especially not without
>advising the user - it does this silently).
>
>* ... well, in a sense: The arithmetic is right. But that isn't how
>exchange rates work - banks don't start from the original and converted
>values and calculate an absolutely precise ratio between the two. The
>exchange rate comes first. The original value is multiplied by the
>exchange rate (which is a decimal value) and then round the result to
>form the converted value. Gnucash's fractional version is a fiction.
>
>Regards
>
>Paul Abraham
>
>On 20/02/2020 01:01, John Ralls wrote:
>
>That's not mangling the data, it's presenting the exact value of
>11102.12/1975.10, a number that isn't representable as a decimal
>without rounding.
>
>As for the display being clever, of course it isn't, it's a computer.
>
>But it you enter the two values 11102.12 and 1975.10 GnuCash shouldn't
>change them, it should just calculate the ratio and present that as the
>price, either exactly as 5 + 61331/98755 or as  5.621041972558352
>rounded to however many decimal places. When I test that, it's exactly
>what I get, see the attached screen shot. Note the exact exchange rate
>in the exchange rate box but the rounded decimal values to the right of
>it.
>
>Regards,
>
>John Ralls
>
>  On Feb 19, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Paul Abraham <[1]p...@acasa.org.uk>
>  wrote:
>  Hmm. That seems to work, but it certainly isn't what I want. The
>exchange rate is now shown as "5 + 61331/98755" which is less than
>helpful - it most certainly is not how real world exchange rates
>  are
>quoted, and it makes comparison almost impossible!
>Why does the display option mangle the data? That isn't very
>  clever. I
>think I'll just stick in a fudge factor as a separate split to
>  correct
>the total though it's a long way from ideal.
>Thanks very much for the answer, though. I can stop chasing
>  moonbeams
>now ;-)
>
>[cid:part2.62ACF325.60F042A3@acasa.org.uk]
>
> References
>
>1. mailto:p...@acasa.org.uk
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[GNC] How to use input method in GnuCash installed from Flatpak ?

2020-02-20 Thread Long
Dear GnuCash,
i'm vietnamese and tried to use Ibus method to type in your software
installed from Flatpak. Because i really don't know how to install your
software from source, read some wiki doesn't help me, maybe easiest guide
will helpful.
For now, the "ONLY" way is write down my things and copy it into your app,
my god.



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Re: [GNC] Credit Card bill autopay

2020-02-20 Thread Long
the easiest way to do that is :
1 - Enter a transactions to your Credit Card with "NO AMOUNT"
2 - Right click to it and make a Schedule
3 - In the Frequency Tab, make it create transaction every months at 1st or
2nd.
4 - In the Overview Tab, choose a Create in advance = 19 days (from 12 to
1st = ~19 days)
That it, so every month, about 12, it will create a payment to your credit
card with "no amount", you can access to your account and enter the amount
you want.
I know that it still requires you manually enter your amount, but with this
tips, i think it's easiest and best.



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Re: [GNC] Where should i put my account "Loan to a Friend" when they evaded debt ?

2020-02-20 Thread elvis



On 20/2/20 2:47 pm, Long wrote:

Hello GnuCash Users,

I just assumed that when i loan to a friend and they don't give my money
back, and then, where should i put that Account to make it doesn't not
affect my Assets ? i mean, my Asset only had 100$, "Stealer" owed to me
about 20$, everytime i open GnuCash... oh, look, this month i got 120$, and
check my bank, oh man, it's only 100$...

To Expense : I assumed that i want to put it to Expense, maybe it's make
sense, because i already spent my money.

To Liability : How about move it to Liability ? so look at a placeholder
"Liability", my owe will decrease because i will make a negative account for
"owed to me". it seems like unreasonable for me when i check my owed.

of course, this is just assumed, like the way GnuCash teach us when the
first time we fall in love with GnuCash.

Thank you for take your time to read this post, and help me.


Expense account --->> Bad debts.


Write it off and be glad the experience only cost you 20 bucks...







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