Re: [GNC] Importing Liability Transactions to AP/Bills

2020-09-14 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 David, That worked great. thanks!
Next question... anyway to import payments?
And, actually, instead of Assets: Checking making the payments...I want the 
payments to come from...Liabilities: Reimbursements To/From Entity B

Because Entity B paid a bunch of Bills for Entity A...So Entity A wants to show 
the Bills Paid and record a debt to Entity B for those payments.
Note: Such transactions occur on occasion between both Entities thus the 
name...Reimbursements To/From Entity B

Thanks again for the help.
On Monday, September 14, 2020, 5:17:20 PM EDT, david whiting 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Fran,

I import lots of bills and use File -> Import -> Import bills and
Invoices (not transactions). See this help page for details:
https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/import-invoices.html
For my purposes I found it useful to create a spreadsheet for entering
details that has a structure that makes sense and then a second sheet
that I named "Export to csv" that has formula that take the values
from the structured form and formats it in the format needed for the
csv import. I then save the invoice in the spreadsheet and do Save As
on the second tab to create the csv file import.

David

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 19:11, Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 wrote:
>
> Note: When I say "Bill" here I mean a Bill from a Vendor to us.
> I'm trying to import a CSV  file to AP and also have it create the 
> corresponding Bill.I have 100+ of these to import else a lot of labor to do 
> it by hand...
>
> So... to experiment I exported the Entities AP register as a CSV file.Then 
> deleted all transactions except one... just to keep it simple.So now I have 3 
> comma separated lines...- Column Title line- Transaction 1 line 1- 
> Transaction 1 line 2
> Now with the AP register still open I click...File > Import > Transactions 
> from a CSV fileI then...- select the file to import- tell the importer to 
> ignore line 1... the Column Title line- tell the importer the date format to 
> use
> Next I start telling the importer the titles of the columns...I leave some 
> column titles set to "none" like...Transaction-ID, Number, 
> Commodity/Currency, Void Reason, to name a fewI do choose titles for these 
> columns to import...Date, Description, Notes, Action, Memo,
>
> Now I'm stuck...The "Exported" sample shows the next four columns titled 
> as...- Full Account Name- Account Name- Amount with Symbol- and Amount Num
> BUT... the importer doesn't offer these column name options...
> My Question: Which Column Name do I choose from the Importer for the above 4 
> lines?
> I don't know, for instance, if the Amount with Symbol and the Amount Num 
> should have their columns named Withdrawal or Deposit... as those titles seem 
> to go with a checking account.
> I also don't know how to make the importer identify the double entry accounts 
> for each imported transaction... like...- Accounts Payable and Utilities... 
> or...- Accounts Payable and Office Supplies... etc
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Importing Liability Transactions to AP/Bills

2020-09-14 Thread david whiting
Hi Fran,

I import lots of bills and use File -> Import -> Import bills and
Invoices (not transactions). See this help page for details:
https://code.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/import-invoices.html
For my purposes I found it useful to create a spreadsheet for entering
details that has a structure that makes sense and then a second sheet
that I named "Export to csv" that has formula that take the values
from the structured form and formats it in the format needed for the
csv import. I then save the invoice in the spreadsheet and do Save As
on the second tab to create the csv file import.

David

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 19:11, Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 wrote:
>
> Note: When I say "Bill" here I mean a Bill from a Vendor to us.
> I'm trying to import a CSV  file to AP and also have it create the 
> corresponding Bill.I have 100+ of these to import else a lot of labor to do 
> it by hand...
>
> So... to experiment I exported the Entities AP register as a CSV file.Then 
> deleted all transactions except one... just to keep it simple.So now I have 3 
> comma separated lines...- Column Title line- Transaction 1 line 1- 
> Transaction 1 line 2
> Now with the AP register still open I click...File > Import > Transactions 
> from a CSV fileI then...- select the file to import- tell the importer to 
> ignore line 1... the Column Title line- tell the importer the date format to 
> use
> Next I start telling the importer the titles of the columns...I leave some 
> column titles set to "none" like...Transaction-ID, Number, 
> Commodity/Currency, Void Reason, to name a fewI do choose titles for these 
> columns to import...Date, Description, Notes, Action, Memo,
>
> Now I'm stuck...The "Exported" sample shows the next four columns titled 
> as...- Full Account Name- Account Name- Amount with Symbol- and Amount Num
> BUT... the importer doesn't offer these column name options...
> My Question: Which Column Name do I choose from the Importer for the above 4 
> lines?
> I don't know, for instance, if the Amount with Symbol and the Amount Num 
> should have their columns named Withdrawal or Deposit... as those titles seem 
> to go with a checking account.
> I also don't know how to make the importer identify the double entry accounts 
> for each imported transaction... like...- Accounts Payable and Utilities... 
> or...- Accounts Payable and Office Supplies... etc
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
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[GNC] Subject Correction: How to import CSV into AP Register?

2020-09-14 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
Note: When I say "Bill" here I mean a Bill from a Vendor to us.
I'm trying to import a CSV  file to AP and also have it create the 
corresponding Bill.I have 100+ of these to import else a lot of labor to do it 
by hand...

So... to experiment I exported the Entities AP register as a CSV file.Then 
deleted all transactions except one... just to keep it simple.So now I have 3 
comma separated lines...- Column Title line- Transaction 1 line 1- Transaction 
1 line 2
Now with the AP register still open I click...File > Import > Transactions from 
a CSV fileI then...- select the file to import- tell the importer to ignore 
line 1... the Column Title line- tell the importer the date format to use
Next I start telling the importer the titles of the columns...I leave some 
column titles set to "none" like...Transaction-ID, Number, Commodity/Currency, 
Void Reason, to name a fewI do choose titles for these columns to 
import...Date, Description, Notes, Action, Memo, 

Now I'm stuck...The "Exported" sample shows the next four columns titled as...- 
Full Account Name- Account Name- Amount with Symbol- and Amount Num
BUT... the importer doesn't offer these column name options...
My Question: Which Column Name do I choose from the Importer for the above 4 
lines?
I don't know, for instance, if the Amount with Symbol and the Amount Num should 
have their columns named Withdrawal or Deposit... as those titles seem to go 
with a checking account.
I also don't know how to make the importer identify the double entry accounts 
for each imported transaction... like...- Accounts Payable and Utilities... 
or...- Accounts Payable and Office Supplies... etc
Thanks for any help.


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[GNC] Importing Liability Transactions to AP/Bills

2020-09-14 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
Note: When I say "Bill" here I mean a Bill from a Vendor to us.
I'm trying to import a CSV  file to AP and also have it create the 
corresponding Bill.I have 100+ of these to import else a lot of labor to do it 
by hand...

So... to experiment I exported the Entities AP register as a CSV file.Then 
deleted all transactions except one... just to keep it simple.So now I have 3 
comma separated lines...- Column Title line- Transaction 1 line 1- Transaction 
1 line 2
Now with the AP register still open I click...File > Import > Transactions from 
a CSV fileI then...- select the file to import- tell the importer to ignore 
line 1... the Column Title line- tell the importer the date format to use
Next I start telling the importer the titles of the columns...I leave some 
column titles set to "none" like...Transaction-ID, Number, Commodity/Currency, 
Void Reason, to name a fewI do choose titles for these columns to 
import...Date, Description, Notes, Action, Memo, 

Now I'm stuck...The "Exported" sample shows the next four columns titled as...- 
Full Account Name- Account Name- Amount with Symbol- and Amount Num
BUT... the importer doesn't offer these column name options...
My Question: Which Column Name do I choose from the Importer for the above 4 
lines?
I don't know, for instance, if the Amount with Symbol and the Amount Num should 
have their columns named Withdrawal or Deposit... as those titles seem to go 
with a checking account.
I also don't know how to make the importer identify the double entry accounts 
for each imported transaction... like...- Accounts Payable and Utilities... 
or...- Accounts Payable and Office Supplies... etc
Thanks for any help.


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Re: [GNC] Ubuntu distribution version

2020-09-14 Thread Doug
Derek,
 I run PCLinuxOS, & it is Gnucash ver 4.1.

 I have been a happy PCLinuxOS user for about 15 years. I love PCL because it 
just works.
Try it off a USB drive, or SD card.

(I run Ubuntu on my Energy server, & must say I prefer PCL! Emoncms (that I 
use) is set up for Ubuntu, so too hard to change for me...)

regards, Doug


On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 15:20:49 -0400
Derek Zehr  wrote:

> Hello Fellow GnuCashers,
> 
> I installed GnuCash from Ubuntu software (Ubuntu 18.04), and it is 
> version 2.6.19. But I see the latest release on gnucash.org is 4.1. Why 
> is mine so far behind, and when can I expect the upgrades to come 
> through Ubuntu's distribution?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Derek Zehr
> 
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Re: [GNC] Negative attitudes [was: Re: Negative numbers]

2020-09-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user

On 2020-09-13 03:31, Liz wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 22:37:02 -0700
ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user  wrote:


Folks do not understand that Open Source is not free.


We have a way of describing this to deal with the various meanings of
"free" in English.

You are describing "free as in beer". Others are describing some of the
further meanings of "free" that FSF refers to

Freedom to use for any purpose; freedom to examine the code; freedom to
share; freedom to improve (and share those improvements).


You can read more about the matters here
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html

Liz


Hi Liz,

That is only half the story.  A nice half though!

Here is the rest of the story:

Open-source economics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_economics

   Open-source for-profit businesses:

   Numerous companies have created businesses around
   open-source software. They do this by publishing
   all of their code open-source, then charging for
   training, certifications, add-ons, and other
   services. One example is Red Hat, which produces
   operating systems. Red Hat sells services such as
   24/7 support, integration into company's products,
   and training. Red Hat was the pioneer for the open
   source business model, and was valued at approximately
   $16 billion as of April 2017. Other examples
   include Google, which created Android, an open-source
   mobile operating system based on Linux.

-T
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Re: [GNC] Negative numbers

2020-09-14 Thread ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user

On 2020-09-13 00:39, Chris Green wrote:

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 02:40:51PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:


You ever get a letter from Red hat or Wine or Libre
Office explaining that you need to "hire" them to
get your bugs fixed?  This is the open source model.
Open source is not a free lunch.


It varies.  I guess it depends on how many people there are at the
'core' of developing/maintaining something and how most of them spend
their time and earn their living.

Some really do write software for fun and really don't want to earn
any money as a consequence.  Quite a few are professional software
people with a paid day job who work on open source in their spare
time, or (as I have quite a few times over many years of working as a
software engineer) provide fixes and debug things which are being used
in their 'professional' work.

There are also quite a few quite big projects which have paid for and
open source versions running in parallel.



LibreOffice has a program where companies can get
their developers "certified" as Libre Office developers
and contribute directly to the project.  Works nicely
for well funded companies.  And it is a really good
idea.

Software for love usually is a much smaller project and
large projects require and army at times to develop.
And then funding does becomes an issue.  Users are
expected to pay for the support they get.  That tends
to leave underfunded entities, especially individuals
out in the cold.   (Libre Office still can't print an
envelope for its life!)

That being said, in my experience, paid software tends
to be of poorer quality that does Open Source, with
notable exceptions of course.

Gnu Cash is a wonderful project with a lot of wonderful
people supporting it.  There are a lot of very patient
mensches on this list.
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