Re: [GNC] Missing payment items in OFX import from Bank

[David Cousens]

Thanks Jean, 
That looks like it is the problem I opened the OFX file for the other
account used to import the payment and it did indeed have the same 
for the matching transaction. I was worried that I was randomly losing
transactions but that doesn't appear to be the case which is good . last
time I did a batch of importing to GnuCash it didn't ignore any definitive
matches but still displayed them in the import matcher.I did suspect that
this was now the behaviour but wasn't too sure.
Cheers
David



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Re: [GNC] Missing payment items in OFX import from Bank

[jean laroche]

It could indeed be an FTID problem: if a transaction in the OFX file has 
an FTID (they are supposed to!) GC checks whether it has seen this 
transaction before (by looking at all previous transactions in the 
corresponding account). If it finds a transaction with the same FTID, it 
assumes you're re-importing the same transaction and it's just ignoring it.


So the issue *could* be that the transactions that GC ignores have FTIDs 
that already exist in the ledger transactions.
You could verify this hypothesis by opening the .gnucash file (go to the 
options, select saving uncompressed, which then allows you to see the GC 
file as plain text) and searching for the FTID of one of the 
transactions that are not being imported. (or by exporting all 
transactions to a csv file and checking there).
OR, you could hack the OFX file, change the FTID to a large string, and 
trying re-importing it. If it works this time, you'll know what the 
issue is.


Some banks have been known to re-use FTIDs which they're not supposed to 
do. That causes a problem for GC.


J


On 10/9/2020 9:47 PM, David Cousens wrote:

Has anyone else come across a problem importing payment information fro OFX
files for a credit cardGNuCash 4.2? I used to have no problem with this but
in bringing my accounts up to date I have noticed the importer is not
recognising a transaction which occurs in the OFX file. The transactions
other than payments I have made into the acount seem to be imported normally
but the following and similar record are not appearing in the Import matcher
window. In my case these normally match to transfers from a bank account
into my credit card which already exist as I generally import the bank
account records first but they usually come up in the import matcher as a do
not import however now they do not appear at all in the import matcher
window.

CREDIT
20200420
20200420
1400.00
N042009047838
PAYMENT RECEIVED, THANK YOU


Another similar payment record into the account on another date also failed
to be recorded and similarly in a previous import for the month before. Any
payment records do not appear to be recognized in the OFX file.  The records
matching these payments into the account are not marked as cleared "c" when
the records are imported. It may have something to do with FITID recognition
as all the records which are not being imported have  values whereas
all the records fo my purchases have a blank . Just want to check
that this is a general problem and not just my bank changing things before
reporting it as a bug.

David



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[GNC] Missing payment items in OFX import from Bank

[David Cousens]

Has anyone else come across a problem importing payment information fro OFX
files for a credit cardGNuCash 4.2? I used to have no problem with this but
in bringing my accounts up to date I have noticed the importer is not
recognising a transaction which occurs in the OFX file. The transactions
other than payments I have made into the acount seem to be imported normally
but the following and similar record are not appearing in the Import matcher
window. In my case these normally match to transfers from a bank account
into my credit card which already exist as I generally import the bank
account records first but they usually come up in the import matcher as a do
not import however now they do not appear at all in the import matcher
window.

CREDIT
20200420
20200420
1400.00
N042009047838
PAYMENT RECEIVED, THANK YOU


Another similar payment record into the account on another date also failed
to be recorded and similarly in a previous import for the month before. Any
payment records do not appear to be recognized in the OFX file.  The records
matching these payments into the account are not marked as cleared "c" when
the records are imported. It may have something to do with FITID recognition
as all the records which are not being imported have  values whereas
all the records fo my purchases have a blank . Just want to check
that this is a general problem and not just my bank changing things before
reporting it as a bug.

David



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Re: [GNC] Data Entry Overload - Create Bill + Post Bill + Pay Bill vs just Pay Bill?

[Christopher Lam]

I'd think that invoices are much more useful than bills. Because I send
invoices and want to track being paid; as a customer I send (usually future
dated) payments on time (or dispute them) and don't need to remind myself.

On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, 7:20 am Fran_3 via gnucash-user, <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

>  So Greg, you don't post any Bills to Accounts Payable? Electric & Utility
> bills. Rent or whatever?
> You just post the payments... is that what you are saying?
> Thanks
>
> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 12:15:25 PM EDT, Greg Feneis <
> mfen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I don't use this process at all. Everything my business buys how on a
> credit card. 🤷
>
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Pixel 3)
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 08:41 Fran_3 via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Posting Bills allows you to keep track of AP and provides data to the
> > Bills Due Reminder...
> > However some routine expenses may just get paid without going through the
> > steps of creating and posting and paying a bill.
> > For a small venture posting bills can require a lot of keyboard time...
> > even duplicating a bill requires a number of steps, data entry, and
> clicks
> > and can eat up time if you have a bunch of them to do...
> > Example, we have a couple of vendor from which we get 50+ to 100+ charges
> > per year. They each are on auto pay and are mostly for the same amount
> per
> > charge... but each charge is for a different thing... so descriptions,
> due
> > dates, etc are different for each item.
> > (You can think of these as if they were an annual listing or service
> > fee... one for each item.)
> > I got reminded of this recently when we made an effort to enter/create
> > Bills for the 100+ charges that were going to occur for Vendor-A over the
> > next 12 months... again, the big corporate vendor does not supply a
> monthly
> > Bill listing all charges for that month... the item fee comes up and gets
> > auto paid... so 100+ transactions per year for that one vendor.
> >
> > It is a lot less work to just enter each payment into the system as
> > opposed to first creating a bill then posting a bill and then paying the
> > bill.
> > How do you all choose which things to create Bills for and which things
> > just Pay?
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report issue when using GC from 2 locations via Google Drive

[John Ralls]

No, that was about macOS just like it said. Unfortunately GnuCash has a variety 
of features that prevent it from being ported to mobile. We had a Google Summer 
of Code student a few years ago who wrote a companion app for Android but he's 
since moved on and it's no longer maintained.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Oct 9, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Fran_3  wrote:
> 
> In this case the PC"s are running the latest GnuCash download version for 
> Windows.
> 
> I haven't explored the "App" yet. I assume you are talking about an app to 
> run on a smart phone... right?
> 
> Regardless, I want to learn more about the  App but I think that will be 
> another thread down the road.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 1:04:23 PM EDT, John Ralls  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Oct 9, 2020, at 4:09 AM, Manfred Usselmann  wrote:
> > 
> > Under MacOS X the following directory is used: 
> > ~/Library/Preferences/gnucash.plist.
> 
> That depends on how you get GnuCash. If it's Gnucash.app then the preferences 
> file is ~/Library/Preferences/org.gnucash.Gnucash.plist. gnucash.plist will 
> be used if you've installed GnuCash from MacPorts or built it yourself.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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[GNC] invoices

[John Mitchell]

I would like to have the 'Payments' become a default setting on the 
printable invoice. Does anyone know how to do this?

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Re: [GNC] Data Entry Overload - Create Bill + Post Bill + Pay Bill vs just Pay Bill?

[Fran_3 via gnucash-user]

 So Greg, you don't post any Bills to Accounts Payable? Electric & Utility 
bills. Rent or whatever?
You just post the payments... is that what you are saying?
Thanks

On Friday, October 9, 2020, 12:15:25 PM EDT, Greg Feneis 
 wrote:  
 
 I don't use this process at all. Everything my business buys how on a
credit card. 🤷

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 08:41 Fran_3 via gnucash-user 
wrote:

> Posting Bills allows you to keep track of AP and provides data to the
> Bills Due Reminder...
> However some routine expenses may just get paid without going through the
> steps of creating and posting and paying a bill.
> For a small venture posting bills can require a lot of keyboard time...
> even duplicating a bill requires a number of steps, data entry, and clicks
> and can eat up time if you have a bunch of them to do...
> Example, we have a couple of vendor from which we get 50+ to 100+ charges
> per year. They each are on auto pay and are mostly for the same amount per
> charge... but each charge is for a different thing... so descriptions, due
> dates, etc are different for each item.
> (You can think of these as if they were an annual listing or service
> fee... one for each item.)
> I got reminded of this recently when we made an effort to enter/create
> Bills for the 100+ charges that were going to occur for Vendor-A over the
> next 12 months... again, the big corporate vendor does not supply a monthly
> Bill listing all charges for that month... the item fee comes up and gets
> auto paid... so 100+ transactions per year for that one vendor.
>
> It is a lot less work to just enter each payment into the system as
> opposed to first creating a bill then posting a bill and then paying the
> bill.
> How do you all choose which things to create Bills for and which things
> just Pay?
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report issue when using GC from 2 locations via Google Drive

[Fran_3 via gnucash-user]

 In this case the PC"s are running the latest GnuCash download version for 
Windows.

I haven't explored the "App" yet. I assume you are talking about an app to run 
on a smart phone... right?
Regardless, I want to learn more about the  App but I think that will be 
another thread down the road.
Thanks.

On Friday, October 9, 2020, 1:04:23 PM EDT, John Ralls  
wrote:  
 
 

> On Oct 9, 2020, at 4:09 AM, Manfred Usselmann  wrote:
> 
> Under MacOS X the following directory is used: 
> ~/Library/Preferences/gnucash.plist.

That depends on how you get GnuCash. If it's Gnucash.app then the preferences 
file is ~/Library/Preferences/org.gnucash.Gnucash.plist. gnucash.plist will be 
used if you've installed GnuCash from MacPorts or built it yourself.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report issue when using GC from 2 locations via Google Drive

[John Ralls]

> On Oct 9, 2020, at 4:09 AM, Manfred Usselmann  wrote:
> 
> Under MacOS X the following directory is used: 
> ~/Library/Preferences/gnucash.plist.

That depends on how you get GnuCash. If it's Gnucash.app then the preferences 
file is ~/Library/Preferences/org.gnucash.Gnucash.plist. gnucash.plist will be 
used if you've installed GnuCash from MacPorts or built it yourself.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Data Entry Overload - Create Bill + Post Bill + Pay Bill vs just Pay Bill?

[Adrien Monteleone]

My rule is to create bills for everything which is a receivable for the 
vendor. (not an immediate sale)


So if I get an invoice from them, and have to issue payment, I create 
the bill.


In this case, while it seems you're dealing with an immediate sale, if 
the payment fails for some reason, you still have to issue payment 
manually. By 'immediate sale' I mean those cases where I personally make 
the payment manually on the spot. (such as online purchases, or in 
person purchases)


I probably would also create bills for such items like you describe 
simply to afford myself the use of Vendor Reports and Payables tracking, 
especially if not all of their invoices to me fall under this use case. 
But I understand that might not work for everyone.


Do you happen to know what those 50-100 line items are in advance? (are 
they recurring each year, or are they truly guaranteed charges but 
one-offs as to the details?)


Duplication is how I enter about 99% of my vendor bills already. But if 
that gets tedious, and you know the data in advance, create a 
spreadsheet with that invoice data according to the format specified in 
the Help/Guide, then import them all at once. (some will of course have 
future dates)


As they get auto-drafted, enter or import the payment transaction and 
apply as payment.


When you run reports, instead of using the default 'end of accounting 
period' use 'today' as your end date. That way, the future posted 
invoices won't affect the report.


But this does give you the benefit of including them to see a projection 
of future due expenses if you like.


Another option is to forego the Business Features for that Vendor (or 
for those Bills) and use Scheduled Transactions. You will still want to 
review and edit the transaction with the line-item detail in a split 
memo, but otherwise, you will cut down on clicks and data entry. At 
least do an SX for the expenses (Bills) but you could do one for the 
payment as well, and upon review before committing, check your bank 
online to verify successful payment, then mark the 'r' column as 'c' for 
that split.


Hope that helps.

Regards,
Adrien

On 10/9/20 10:38 AM, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:

Posting Bills allows you to keep track of AP and provides data to the Bills Due 
Reminder...
However some routine expenses may just get paid without going through the steps 
of creating and posting and paying a bill.
For a small venture posting bills can require a lot of keyboard time... even 
duplicating a bill requires a number of steps, data entry, and clicks and can 
eat up time if you have a bunch of them to do...
Example, we have a couple of vendor from which we get 50+ to 100+ charges per 
year. They each are on auto pay and are mostly for the same amount per 
charge... but each charge is for a different thing... so descriptions, due 
dates, etc are different for each item.
(You can think of these as if they were an annual listing or service fee... one 
for each item.)
I got reminded of this recently when we made an effort to enter/create Bills 
for the 100+ charges that were going to occur for Vendor-A over the next 12 
months... again, the big corporate vendor does not supply a monthly Bill 
listing all charges for that month... the item fee comes up and gets auto 
paid... so 100+ transactions per year for that one vendor.

It is a lot less work to just enter each payment into the system as opposed to 
first creating a bill then posting a bill and then paying the bill.
How do you all choose which things to create Bills for and which things just 
Pay?
Thanks.


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Re: [GNC] Data Entry Overload - Create Bill + Post Bill + Pay Bill vs just Pay Bill?

[Greg Feneis]

I don't use this process at all. Everything my business buys how on a
credit card. 🤷

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020, 08:41 Fran_3 via gnucash-user 
wrote:

> Posting Bills allows you to keep track of AP and provides data to the
> Bills Due Reminder...
> However some routine expenses may just get paid without going through the
> steps of creating and posting and paying a bill.
> For a small venture posting bills can require a lot of keyboard time...
> even duplicating a bill requires a number of steps, data entry, and clicks
> and can eat up time if you have a bunch of them to do...
> Example, we have a couple of vendor from which we get 50+ to 100+ charges
> per year. They each are on auto pay and are mostly for the same amount per
> charge... but each charge is for a different thing... so descriptions, due
> dates, etc are different for each item.
> (You can think of these as if they were an annual listing or service
> fee... one for each item.)
> I got reminded of this recently when we made an effort to enter/create
> Bills for the 100+ charges that were going to occur for Vendor-A over the
> next 12 months... again, the big corporate vendor does not supply a monthly
> Bill listing all charges for that month... the item fee comes up and gets
> auto paid... so 100+ transactions per year for that one vendor.
>
> It is a lot less work to just enter each payment into the system as
> opposed to first creating a bill then posting a bill and then paying the
> bill.
> How do you all choose which things to create Bills for and which things
> just Pay?
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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[GNC] Data Entry Overload - Create Bill + Post Bill + Pay Bill vs just Pay Bill?

[Fran_3 via gnucash-user]

Posting Bills allows you to keep track of AP and provides data to the Bills Due 
Reminder...
However some routine expenses may just get paid without going through the steps 
of creating and posting and paying a bill.
For a small venture posting bills can require a lot of keyboard time... even 
duplicating a bill requires a number of steps, data entry, and clicks and can 
eat up time if you have a bunch of them to do...
Example, we have a couple of vendor from which we get 50+ to 100+ charges per 
year. They each are on auto pay and are mostly for the same amount per 
charge... but each charge is for a different thing... so descriptions, due 
dates, etc are different for each item.
(You can think of these as if they were an annual listing or service fee... one 
for each item.)
I got reminded of this recently when we made an effort to enter/create Bills 
for the 100+ charges that were going to occur for Vendor-A over the next 12 
months... again, the big corporate vendor does not supply a monthly Bill 
listing all charges for that month... the item fee comes up and gets auto 
paid... so 100+ transactions per year for that one vendor.

It is a lot less work to just enter each payment into the system as opposed to 
first creating a bill then posting a bill and then paying the bill.
How do you all choose which things to create Bills for and which things just 
Pay?
Thanks.



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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report issue when using GC from 2 locations via Google Drive

[Manfred Usselmann]

In addition:

For syncing settings as well under Linux I use the following start 
script to import settings before running gnucash and export settings 
afterwards with dconf:


8< 
#!/bin/sh
# Start GnuCash with import and export of settings
#
HOME_DIR="${HOME}"
GNUCASH="$(command -v gnucash)"
[ "$?" -ne 0 ] && { echo 'gnucash: command not found.'; exit 1; }
DCONF_BKP="${HOME_DIR}/.config/gnucash/preferences.dconf"
if [ -f "${DCONF_BKP}" ]; then
dconf load /org/gnucash/ < "${DCONF_BKP}"
fi
"${GNUCASH}" $*
dconf dump /org/gnucash/ > "${DCONF_BKP}"
8< 

Under MacOS X the following directory is used: 
~/Library/Preferences/gnucash.plist.


Under Windows the windows registry is used to store the settings under 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/software/GSettings. You could use Powershell or the 
command line to import and export the settings. Use e.g. "reg export /?" 
to get detailed help.


I do synchronize the following directories. They are not all required at 
the same time, some are for older and some for newer versions of gnucash 
and aqbanking. This is for Linux. As Adrien said, check the wiki for the 
correct locations for your operating system and which you need for your 
version of GnuCash:


.aqbanking
.gnucash
.abtransfers
.local/share/gnucash
.gconf/apps/gnucash
.config/gnucash

Regards,
Manfred

Am 08.10.2020 20:55, schrieb Adrien Monteleone:

#1 yes (see the wiki about storage locations for your operating system)

#2 I don't think you can change it, buy you can add it to your
GoogleDrive sync list.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/8/20 12:13 PM, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:
The GnuCash file entityA.gnucash is saved on Google Drive.GnuCash is 
installed on both pcX and pcY at locations X and Y.
Google Drive is sync'd on both pcX and on pcY...So the entityA.gnucash 
file is available locally on both computers hard drive.


This way  work can be done from either location.
The Issue:When a custom Transaction Report is created on pcX and 
saved...It does not get sync'd up to the cloud so it is not available 
if GnuCash is used with pcY from location Y.
The questions:1 - Are the custom Transaction Reports saved as a 
special file... or set of files in some local folder?2 - If so can 
that folder be changed such that the custom Transaction Reports can be 
sync'd to the Google Drive and ultimately be available to both pc's?3 
- If not  are what alternate solutions exist?

Thanks for any help.




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