Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 13:57:29 +1000 David H wrote: > Perhaps another thing to consider is are you using any sort of syncing > software that could possibly be copying this LCK back from a backup > location after Gnucash has deleted it ? > > Cheers David H. If so, set the software not to copy the *.LCK and the *.LNK as well as the *.log files. I use a complex system of syncing to allow me to use the laptop for Gnucash when away from home and have all the data automatically updated to the primary copy on the laptop. Liz ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.2 QIF download issue
Would you please file a bug on bugs.gnucash.org ideally with a small full qif file On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, 5:42 am Roderick Averill, wrote: > Version 4.2 problem: When I import a qif file from my bank, it imports the > "+" transaction amounts (deposit), but not the "-" transaction amounts (EFT > out of the account). The - amounts are all zeros. > > Here's a snippet from the qif file: > > !Type:Bank > > D01/02/2020 > > T100.00- > > NEFT > > Company A > > ^ > > D01/03/2020 > > T500.00+ > > NDEPOSIT > > PDEPOSIT > > > The EFT amount does not import, the deposit imports. Is this a qif format > issue? This worked fine in the previous version of Gnucash (3.6) > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Your Classification / Tagging Implementation
Assets are things that you own, including balances at a bank account. Liabilities are things that you owe, including mortgages and credit cards. Equity is the difference between the two, including income and expense. Debit means the left column and credit means the right column. Assets increase with debits and Liabilities and Equity increase with credit. For every transaction the sums of the two columns have to be the same. I'll leave it as an exercise for you to work out examples of income->asset (getting paid), asset->expense (buying groceries with your debit card), liability->expense (buying something from Amazon with your credit card), and asset->liability (paying your credit card bill from your bank account). One last point: Your banks account balance is an asset to you and a liability to the bank, which is why your bank statement shows the balance increasing with credit: The statement is from the bank's point of view. There's a Free alternative to GnuCash for users who don't want to deal with the complexity and rigor of real accounting: KMyMoney. Regards, John Ralls > On Nov 7, 2020, at 7:32 PM, w...@theprescotts.com wrote: > > Then I really don't understand. If I eat in a restaurant, it will depend on > how I pay for the meal. If I use cash or a credit card, checking won't be > involved at all. > If I use a debit card, it will be a 'Withdrawal' from the checking account > and a 'Tot expense' to the Eating out account. But I have checking set up as > a 'Bank' Account, not as an 'Asset' account. Maybe that is the difference. > > Will > > > > On 2020 Nov 7, at 11-07 18:42:21, Derek Atkins wrote: > > Nope. > Credit checking and debit expense. > > -derek > Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. > > On November 7, 2020 7:27:04 PM "w...@theprescotts.com" > wrote: > >> IANA (I am no accountant), but don't you have the credit/debit reversed on >> the example Assets:Checking and Expenses:Eating out. >> >> I would think it would be debit to checking (withdrawal) and a credit to >> Eating out. Maybe I don't know what Cr and Dr stand for. >> >> Will >> >> On 2020 Nov 7, at 11-07 15:49:52, Gal wrote: >> >> The most requested feature in gnucash is to have transaction classification, >> also known as tags / dimensions / categories / classes >> https://gnucash.uservoice.com/forums/101223-feature-request/suggestions/1543027-transaction-classifications >> >> Say I spend 100€ at a restaurant during a vacation in Italy. >> The obvious transaction is a 100€ credit to checking account and 100€ debit >> to Expenses:Eating out >> But I would also like to be able to track the vacation expenses, so I have >> to classify all transactions took place during the vacation, for example >> with a #italy2020 tag. >> >> Summarizing all discussions I've read, there are two common workarounds, or >> ways to manually implement classification in gnucash: >> >> 1. By adding the tag #italy2020 to the description, note or memo field of >> the transaction. >> The transaction report can then filter transactions by the tag string. >> >> 2. By creating an additional account, called italy2020, and change the >> transaction splits in the following way: >> Cr. Assets:Checking 100€ >> Dr. Tags:italy2020 100€ >> -- >> Cr. Tags:italy2020 100€ >> Dr. Expenses:Eating out 100€ >> >> >> Those of you who implement such taggings, can you share your method, and why >> you prefer your method over the other? >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. _
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Perhaps another thing to consider is are you using any sort of syncing software that could possibly be copying this LCK back from a backup location after Gnucash has deleted it ? Cheers David H. On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 at 11:43, Greg Feneis wrote: > IIUC, when a user opens a .gnucash file with GnuCash, EG foo.gnucash is > opened, GnuCash creates an additional file in the same folder, as a signal > that this file is open and being modified. This is the lock file. The lock > file will have the same file name plus LCK extension. EG foo.LCK for when > foo.gnucash is opened. > > Before GnuCash opens the file, it looks for a file that starts with the > file name you asked it to open and ends with .LCK. If it finds this file, > it gives the warning about difficulty obtaining a lock. In this case, > GnuCash thinks the file you're trying to open is already open and being > edited. > > Knowing this, a potential work around for Windows users (perhaps others?) > until the software is corrected: When the user is finished using GnuCash, > save and close per usual. If the file saved correctly and GnuCash closed > correctly, the file that ends .LCK should have also been deleted (lock > released). Confirm that it was deleted by opening the folder location > where the .gnucash file is stored and look for files that end with .LCK. > If a .LCK file is found, delete it. > > With no .LCK file present, the next time GnuCash tries to open the .gnucash > file, the user won't get the obtaining lock message. > > Kind regards, > > Greg Feneis > > > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 2:10 PM Jack Slater wrote: > > > 1 - I really appreciate this software. > > 2 - I realize that in my haste I may not initially include all > > pertinent details with my questions. > > 3 - I do appreciate all those that try to help. > > 4 - Users don't appreciate comments with this tone: > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/condescending > > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael or Penny Novack < > > stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > On 11/7/2020 9:32 AM, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I know (and mainly agree with) all that, I am a fully fledged > > > > (well, ancient) chartered software engineer with lots of letters both > > > > before and after my name if necessary. > > > > > > > > I was just trying to aim my comment at non-computer people and, > > > > anyway, it is beginning to drift away from the original issue. > > > > > > > I was just trying to clarify -- non-computer people should not try to > > > use an alpha version even if they really really need that new feature. > > > It would be asking for trouble. I, or you, would automatically know > what > > > we would have to do to make it safer. They do not. > > > > > > Michael D Novack > > > > > > > > > -- > > > There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the > > > equality of the grave. > > > > > > ___ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > - > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Your Classification / Tagging Implementation
Then I really don't understand. If I eat in a restaurant, it will depend on how I pay for the meal. If I use cash or a credit card, checking won't be involved at all. If I use a debit card, it will be a 'Withdrawal' from the checking account and a 'Tot expense' to the Eating out account. But I have checking set up as a 'Bank' Account, not as an 'Asset' account. Maybe that is the difference. Will On 2020 Nov 7, at 11-07 18:42:21, Derek Atkins wrote: Nope. Credit checking and debit expense. -derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. On November 7, 2020 7:27:04 PM "w...@theprescotts.com" wrote: > IANA (I am no accountant), but don't you have the credit/debit reversed on > the example Assets:Checking and Expenses:Eating out. > > I would think it would be debit to checking (withdrawal) and a credit to > Eating out. Maybe I don't know what Cr and Dr stand for. > > Will > > On 2020 Nov 7, at 11-07 15:49:52, Gal wrote: > > The most requested feature in gnucash is to have transaction classification, > also known as tags / dimensions / categories / classes > https://gnucash.uservoice.com/forums/101223-feature-request/suggestions/1543027-transaction-classifications > > Say I spend 100€ at a restaurant during a vacation in Italy. > The obvious transaction is a 100€ credit to checking account and 100€ debit > to Expenses:Eating out > But I would also like to be able to track the vacation expenses, so I have > to classify all transactions took place during the vacation, for example > with a #italy2020 tag. > > Summarizing all discussions I've read, there are two common workarounds, or > ways to manually implement classification in gnucash: > > 1. By adding the tag #italy2020 to the description, note or memo field of > the transaction. > The transaction report can then filter transactions by the tag string. > > 2. By creating an additional account, called italy2020, and change the > transaction splits in the following way: > Cr. Assets:Checking 100€ > Dr. Tags:italy2020 100€ > -- > Cr. Tags:italy2020 100€ > Dr. Expenses:Eating out 100€ > > > Those of you who implement such taggings, can you share your method, and why > you prefer your method over the other? > > > > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
IIUC, when a user opens a .gnucash file with GnuCash, EG foo.gnucash is opened, GnuCash creates an additional file in the same folder, as a signal that this file is open and being modified. This is the lock file. The lock file will have the same file name plus LCK extension. EG foo.LCK for when foo.gnucash is opened. Before GnuCash opens the file, it looks for a file that starts with the file name you asked it to open and ends with .LCK. If it finds this file, it gives the warning about difficulty obtaining a lock. In this case, GnuCash thinks the file you're trying to open is already open and being edited. Knowing this, a potential work around for Windows users (perhaps others?) until the software is corrected: When the user is finished using GnuCash, save and close per usual. If the file saved correctly and GnuCash closed correctly, the file that ends .LCK should have also been deleted (lock released). Confirm that it was deleted by opening the folder location where the .gnucash file is stored and look for files that end with .LCK. If a .LCK file is found, delete it. With no .LCK file present, the next time GnuCash tries to open the .gnucash file, the user won't get the obtaining lock message. Kind regards, Greg Feneis On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 2:10 PM Jack Slater wrote: > 1 - I really appreciate this software. > 2 - I realize that in my haste I may not initially include all > pertinent details with my questions. > 3 - I do appreciate all those that try to help. > 4 - Users don't appreciate comments with this tone: > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/condescending > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael or Penny Novack < > stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > On 11/7/2020 9:32 AM, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > Yes, I know (and mainly agree with) all that, I am a fully fledged > > > (well, ancient) chartered software engineer with lots of letters both > > > before and after my name if necessary. > > > > > > I was just trying to aim my comment at non-computer people and, > > > anyway, it is beginning to drift away from the original issue. > > > > > I was just trying to clarify -- non-computer people should not try to > > use an alpha version even if they really really need that new feature. > > It would be asking for trouble. I, or you, would automatically know what > > we would have to do to make it safer. They do not. > > > > Michael D Novack > > > > > > -- > > There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the > > equality of the grave. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Your Classification / Tagging Implementation
Nope. Credit checking and debit expense. -derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. On November 7, 2020 7:27:04 PM "w...@theprescotts.com" wrote: IANA (I am no accountant), but don't you have the credit/debit reversed on the example Assets:Checking and Expenses:Eating out. I would think it would be debit to checking (withdrawal) and a credit to Eating out. Maybe I don't know what Cr and Dr stand for. Will On 2020 Nov 7, at 11-07 15:49:52, Gal wrote: The most requested feature in gnucash is to have transaction classification, also known as tags / dimensions / categories / classes https://gnucash.uservoice.com/forums/101223-feature-request/suggestions/1543027-transaction-classifications Say I spend 100€ at a restaurant during a vacation in Italy. The obvious transaction is a 100€ credit to checking account and 100€ debit to Expenses:Eating out But I would also like to be able to track the vacation expenses, so I have to classify all transactions took place during the vacation, for example with a #italy2020 tag. Summarizing all discussions I've read, there are two common workarounds, or ways to manually implement classification in gnucash: 1. By adding the tag #italy2020 to the description, note or memo field of the transaction. The transaction report can then filter transactions by the tag string. 2. By creating an additional account, called italy2020, and change the transaction splits in the following way: Cr. Assets:Checking 100€ Dr. Tags:italy2020 100€ -- Cr. Tags:italy2020 100€ Dr. Expenses:Eating out 100€ Those of you who implement such taggings, can you share your method, and why you prefer your method over the other? -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Your Classification / Tagging Implementation
IANA (I am no accountant), but don't you have the credit/debit reversed on the example Assets:Checking and Expenses:Eating out. I would think it would be debit to checking (withdrawal) and a credit to Eating out. Maybe I don't know what Cr and Dr stand for. Will On 2020 Nov 7, at 11-07 15:49:52, Gal wrote: The most requested feature in gnucash is to have transaction classification, also known as tags / dimensions / categories / classes https://gnucash.uservoice.com/forums/101223-feature-request/suggestions/1543027-transaction-classifications Say I spend 100€ at a restaurant during a vacation in Italy. The obvious transaction is a 100€ credit to checking account and 100€ debit to Expenses:Eating out But I would also like to be able to track the vacation expenses, so I have to classify all transactions took place during the vacation, for example with a #italy2020 tag. Summarizing all discussions I've read, there are two common workarounds, or ways to manually implement classification in gnucash: 1. By adding the tag #italy2020 to the description, note or memo field of the transaction. The transaction report can then filter transactions by the tag string. 2. By creating an additional account, called italy2020, and change the transaction splits in the following way: Cr. Assets:Checking 100€ Dr. Tags:italy2020 100€ -- Cr. Tags:italy2020 100€ Dr. Expenses:Eating out 100€ Those of you who implement such taggings, can you share your method, and why you prefer your method over the other? -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
1 - I really appreciate this software. 2 - I realize that in my haste I may not initially include all pertinent details with my questions. 3 - I do appreciate all those that try to help. 4 - Users don't appreciate comments with this tone: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/condescending On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 11/7/2020 9:32 AM, Chris Green wrote: > > > Yes, I know (and mainly agree with) all that, I am a fully fledged > > (well, ancient) chartered software engineer with lots of letters both > > before and after my name if necessary. > > > > I was just trying to aim my comment at non-computer people and, > > anyway, it is beginning to drift away from the original issue. > > > I was just trying to clarify -- non-computer people should not try to > use an alpha version even if they really really need that new feature. > It would be asking for trouble. I, or you, would automatically know what > we would have to do to make it safer. They do not. > > Michael D Novack > > > -- > There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the > equality of the grave. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Version: 4.2 Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26) File format is default - .gnucash File saved in User (Jack)/Documents/GnuCash/ Now with all these details (unless someone needs something else) I'm hoping for a resolution for me - non-computer user that I am. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:46 PM David Carlson wrote: > Jack, > > While I am sure that you are correct that you are using the latest > version, it helps the rest of us if you copy the version and build numbers > from your Help > About as sometimes there are multiple builds for some > OS's. In addition it is helpful if you also mention what file format your > data file is in, and if you store it anywhere other than in a subfolder of > your User folder on your C: drive. > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:34 PM Jack Slater wrote: > >> I will add that I'm using Windows 10. >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:27 PM Jack Slater >> wrote: >> >> > Thanks for this! >> > >> > Some of what you're detailing in tech terms is above my pay grade (mysql >> > etc). But I AM savvy enough to know that when I post "latest version", >> that >> > I have checked the versioning number to confirm that my latest update >> is in >> > fact the latest update. >> > >> > So I support your suggestion that this has happened since the "latest" >> > update. I'd be glad to provide anything more if needed but this is a >> long >> > running bug it seems. >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 8:29 AM jvernice wrote: >> > >> >> Since the latest update to GC (Version: 4.2 Build ID: >> 4.2+(2020-09-26)), >> >> I am >> >> also getting the "cannot obtain lock" error. I don't believe that it >> has >> >> anything to do with file permissions or storage issues. It is >> happening >> >> with XML files as well as with mysql. It is not consistent and I >> always >> >> exit cleanly. When I ignore the message it saves or updates >> correctly. I >> >> do get a little nervous about this warning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sent from: >> >> http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html >> >> ___ >> >> gnucash-user mailing list >> >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> >> - >> >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >> >> > >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > -- > David Carlson > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Your Classification / Tagging Implementation
The most requested feature in gnucash is to have transaction classification, also known as tags / dimensions / categories / classes https://gnucash.uservoice.com/forums/101223-feature-request/suggestions/1543027-transaction-classifications Say I spend 100€ at a restaurant during a vacation in Italy. The obvious transaction is a 100€ credit to checking account and 100€ debit to Expenses:Eating out But I would also like to be able to track the vacation expenses, so I have to classify all transactions took place during the vacation, for example with a #italy2020 tag. Summarizing all discussions I've read, there are two common workarounds, or ways to manually implement classification in gnucash: 1. By adding the tag #italy2020 to the description, note or memo field of the transaction. The transaction report can then filter transactions by the tag string. 2. By creating an additional account, called italy2020, and change the transaction splits in the following way: Cr. Assets:Checking 100€ Dr. Tags:italy2020 100€ -- Cr. Tags:italy2020 100€ Dr. Expenses:Eating out 100€ Those of you who implement such taggings, can you share your method, and why you prefer your method over the other? -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
On 11/7/2020 9:32 AM, Chris Green wrote: Yes, I know (and mainly agree with) all that, I am a fully fledged (well, ancient) chartered software engineer with lots of letters both before and after my name if necessary. I was just trying to aim my comment at non-computer people and, anyway, it is beginning to drift away from the original issue. I was just trying to clarify -- non-computer people should not try to use an alpha version even if they really really need that new feature. It would be asking for trouble. I, or you, would automatically know what we would have to do to make it safer. They do not. Michael D Novack -- There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the equality of the grave. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 09:04:47AM -0500, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > > > No to mention that there are very often (nearly always?) at least > > three 'latest versions' for Open Source software:- > > > > The latest stable, general release, version > > > > The latest beta version, for 'ordinary users' to test, or even use > > if it works well for them > > > > The latest 'cutting edge' direct from the software developers, > > often people will use this if it happens to have a new feature > > they 'really, really' need. > > > Close. Let me add my two cents. > > Beta: Use this IF needing some new feature. But be prepared for possible > problems. Report any problems to the developers. not the user list UNLESS > the sort of subtle problem that at first glace looks OK but really isn't (in > that case might also want to put a warning post on the users' list). Also > might ASK on the users' list "any other beta users seeing what I am seeing?" > > Alpha: Here is where I disagree somewhat with the post above. Only dedicates > testers committing to seeking out and reporting problems to the developers > should be using alpha. An end user doing this needs to have some experience > testing software and when seeing something wrong not just giving a vague > report but playing around a bit to be able to tell the developers WHAT > gnucash seems to be doing wrong, not just "doing ti wrong". > > Thus an end user whose motivation is "new feature I really really > need" needs ALSO to have that testing experience. Otherwise you are putting > your "production data" at risk. Alpha versions are expected to (still) be > buggy. It would probably be OK for me to risk an alpha, but I'm retired from > a few decades spent in the cypher mines. > Yes, I know (and mainly agree with) all that, I am a fully fledged (well, ancient) chartered software engineer with lots of letters both before and after my name if necessary. I was just trying to aim my comment at non-computer people and, anyway, it is beginning to drift away from the original issue. -- Chris Green ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
No to mention that there are very often (nearly always?) at least three 'latest versions' for Open Source software:- The latest stable, general release, version The latest beta version, for 'ordinary users' to test, or even use if it works well for them The latest 'cutting edge' direct from the software developers, often people will use this if it happens to have a new feature they 'really, really' need. Close. Let me add my two cents. Beta: Use this IF needing some new feature. But be prepared for possible problems. Report any problems to the developers. not the user list UNLESS the sort of subtle problem that at first glace looks OK but really isn't (in that case might also want to put a warning post on the users' list). Also might ASK on the users' list "any other beta users seeing what I am seeing?" Alpha: Here is where I disagree somewhat with the post above. Only dedicates testers committing to seeking out and reporting problems to the developers should be using alpha. An end user doing this needs to have some experience testing software and when seeing something wrong not just giving a vague report but playing around a bit to be able to tell the developers WHAT gnucash seems to be doing wrong, not just "doing ti wrong". Thus an end user whose motivation is "new feature I really really need" needs ALSO to have that testing experience. Otherwise you are putting your "production data" at risk. Alpha versions are expected to (still) be buggy. It would probably be OK for me to risk an alpha, but I'm retired from a few decades spent in the cypher mines. Michael D Novack -- There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the equality of the grave. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 04:45:54PM -0600, David Carlson wrote: > Jack, > > While I am sure that you are correct that you are using the latest version, > it helps the rest of us if you copy the version and build numbers from your > Help > About as sometimes there are multiple builds for some OS's. In > addition it is helpful if you also mention what file format your data file > is in, and if you store it anywhere other than in a subfolder of your User > folder on your C: drive. > No to mention that there are very often (nearly always?) at least three 'latest versions' for Open Source software:- The latest stable, general release, version The latest beta version, for 'ordinary users' to test, or even use if it works well for them The latest 'cutting edge' direct from the software developers, often people will use this if it happens to have a new feature they 'really, really' need. -- Chris Green ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
