Re: [GNC] Bankrupt stock

[dullege]

Well, depending where you live,  I think you might want to "dispose" of
delisted and worthless shares so that you can capture the capital loss for
tax purposes.

In the asset account linked to this one security ... I would create a new
transaction - for the Shares (where "" is the total shares you own),
and $0.00 for the price - that's it (ie, nothing under Transfer because
there are no proceeds, nothing entered in Sell).

This results in net balance of exactly 0 shares for the asset account linked
to the security.

You should then be able to scrub the account (to capture the capital loss
for the disposed shares).

I tried this just now it and it all seems to work.

Finally, you can hide the asset account if you never want to be reminded of
that bad investment again.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On
Behalf Of Cam Ellison
Sent: Wednesday, 30 December 2020 4:11 PM
To: smada46 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org; gnucash-user

Subject: Re: [GNC] Bankrupt stock

On 2020-12-29 14:18, smada46 wrote:
> I have a stock that went bankrupt, i.e. zero value.  I have tried 
> repeatedly to remove the stock by selling the shares at $0.00 per 
> share, but no matter what combination I use, it changes the cost or 
> amount so it does not remove the shares.  For example, I put -2000 
> shares in and $0.00 in cost and zero under the sell column.  After I 
> hit enter, the shares show 1980 not zero.  How do I get rid of this 
> stock?

Why would you want to remove it? Use the Price database to set its value to
zero. The Portfolio reports will not include it unless you specifically
select it.

Regardless of their value, you still own those shares - and will always own
them. So you can't sell them - either in real life or in GnuCash.

HTH

Cam

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Re: [GNC] Bankrupt stock

[Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user]

   On 12/30/20 12:10 AM, Cam Ellison wrote:

 On 2020-12-29 14:18, smada46 wrote:

 I have a stock that went bankrupt, i.e. zero value.  I have tried
 repeatedly to remove the stock by selling the shares at $0.00 per
 share, but no matter what combination I use, it changes the cost or
 amount so it does not remove the shares.  For example, I put -2000
 shares in and $0.00 in cost and zero under the sell column.  After I
 hit enter, the shares show 1980 not zero.  How do I get rid of this
 stock?

 Why would you want to remove it? Use the Price database to set its
 value to zero. The Portfolio reports will not include it unless you
 specifically select it.
 Regardless of their value, you still own those shares - and will
 always own them. So you can't sell them - either in real life or in
 GnuCash.

   I had a stock that went bankrupt. My broker allowed me to sell it to
   him for a pittance (a few cents for the lot). So I do not own those
   shares anymore and no longer appear on my broker's web site or my
   monthly statements.
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Re: [GNC] Bankrupt stock

[Cam Ellison]

On 2020-12-29 14:18, smada46 wrote:

I have a stock that went bankrupt, i.e. zero value.  I have tried
repeatedly to remove the stock by selling the shares at $0.00 per
share, but no matter what combination I use, it changes the cost or
amount so it does not remove the shares.  For example, I put -2000
shares in and $0.00 in cost and zero under the sell column.  After I
hit enter, the shares show 1980 not zero.  How do I get rid of this
stock?


Why would you want to remove it? Use the Price database to set its value 
to zero. The Portfolio reports will not include it unless you 
specifically select it.


Regardless of their value, you still own those shares - and will always 
own them. So you can't sell them - either in real life or in GnuCash.


HTH

Cam

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[GNC] Bankrupt stock

[smada46]

I have a stock that went bankrupt, i.e. zero value.  I have tried repeatedly to 
remove the stock by selling the shares at $0.00 per share, but no matter what 
combination I use, it changes the cost or amount so it does not remove the 
shares.  For example, I put -2000 shares in and $0.00 in cost and zero under 
the sell column.  After I hit enter, the shares show 1980 not zero.  How do I 
get rid of this stock?
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Re: [GNC] Can't get GNUCASH to work on OSX

[David H]

When I open the dmg there's 5-6 files so I just copy them all over and yes
CMD not CTRL - Windows muscle memory taking over :-)  Using Big Sur 11.1
these days so I guess the prompts have changed somewhat

Cheers David.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 10:00, Michael Hendry 
wrote:

> > On 29 Dec 2020, at 20:58, David H  wrote:
> >
> > Ralph,
> >
> > Go to system prefs under Security and Policy and see if there's  a
> prompt to allow Gnucash to run - working from memory here so I think that's
> where it used to show up for me.
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > Check your system prefs under Security and Policy - I have "Allow apps
> downloaded from:" set to "App Store and identified developers" and don't
> get prompted to allow a new version to run.
>
> Thanks, David.
>
> I have mine set to “Anywhere”, which I would imagine is a superset of “App
> Store and identified developers”, but I still get the prompt.
>
> >  All I ever do is mount and open the dmg, CTRL-A to select all files and
> in Applications CTRL-V to paste and select copy over if I already have
> Gnucash installed.
>
> I mount and open the DMG, then drag the App into the Applications folder,
> opting to overwrite the existing copy. As far as I can tell, there’s no
> need to “select all” and copy.
>
> (Presumably you use -a and -v on your Mac, not the CTRL-A etc?)
>
> Michael
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Can't get GNUCASH to work on OSX

[Michael Hendry]

> On 29 Dec 2020, at 20:58, David H  wrote:
> 
> Ralph,
> 
> Go to system prefs under Security and Policy and see if there's  a prompt to 
> allow Gnucash to run - working from memory here so I think that's where it 
> used to show up for me.
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Check your system prefs under Security and Policy - I have "Allow apps 
> downloaded from:" set to "App Store and identified developers" and don't get 
> prompted to allow a new version to run.

Thanks, David.

I have mine set to “Anywhere”, which I would imagine is a superset of “App 
Store and identified developers”, but I still get the prompt.

>  All I ever do is mount and open the dmg, CTRL-A to select all files and in 
> Applications CTRL-V to paste and select copy over if I already have Gnucash 
> installed.

I mount and open the DMG, then drag the App into the Applications folder, 
opting to overwrite the existing copy. As far as I can tell, there’s no need to 
“select all” and copy.

(Presumably you use -a and -v on your Mac, not the CTRL-A etc?)

Michael

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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

[David Cousens]

GnuCash 4,4, builds, installs and runs on Linux Mint 20.4



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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement

[Greg Feneis]

I think the GnuCash project is managed or stored SourceForge.  I've somehow
noodled around on SF and now when there's a release, I get a SF release
notification email, FWIW




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis 




On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 8:54 PM D. via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Frank,
>
> I didn't receive either boilerplate announcement in my inboxes, either-- a
> point that John acknowledged directly. Something clearly went awry with the
> mail in these cases.
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Frank H. Ellenberger" 
> Sent: Mon Dec 28 21:04:06 EST 2020
> To: py...@cox.net, 'John Ralls' , 'GnuCash-User' <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement/GnuCash 4.3 Announcement
>
> Hello Ken,
>
> Am 29.12.20 um 02:54 schrieb py...@cox.net:
> > John - Thank you for the announcement - FYI -  Received this e-mail - but
> > did not receive the regular nor the 4.3 announcement.
> >
> > Ken
>
> it is here:
>
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-announce/2020-December/000333.html
>
> All in reverse chronological order:
> https://www.gnucash.org/news.phtml
>
>
> ~Frank
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Re: [GNC] Printing

[David Cousens]

Gerald,

Printing is normally handled by the OS and not by GnuCash itself. 

What OS are you using and what is the GnuCash version? 
What are you trying to print? 

Generally only reports can be printed out (and checks, invoices etc.). Under
the File menu item there is a Print Report (Ctrl-P) entry which will print
the report currently displayed in the  main window to the system printer.
AFAIK this is context sensitive and become Print Checks when an account
register is being displayed. I would think if an invoice is the open tab it
will change to Print Invoice but I do not use the business features so I
cannot check it out easily. 

On Linux, in my case, this is a network shared printer accessible via CUPS.
If the printer is accessible through the OS, web browsers or other
applications, it should also be accessible from within GnuCash. If not it is
likely a CUPS configuration problem

An alternative is to export the report as HTML, then open it with a web
browser and print from the browser.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

[Les]

John, thanks the updates.  I just ran Flatpak update and am now a GC 4.4.

Les

On 12/29/20 11:05 AM, John Ralls wrote:

Sorry for the bad URIs. I've corrected the direct links on the 
www.gnucash.org/news.phtml and sent a correction email to gnucash-announce.

I made some adjustments and started a new Flathub build that should be done in 
an hour or so.

https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798067 reports a problem with the 
Windows package failing because of a missing symbol in libpng. Has anyone else 
had a problem with it?

Regards,
John Ralls


On Dec 29, 2020, at 8:50 AM,  
 wrote:

Hi,
The 'Github' link given below allowed an installation that worked for me. 
Thanks a lot guys! A disappearing accounts program half way through the annual 
accounts is rather stressful!!
Richard

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user 
 On Behalf Of Les
Sent: 29 December 2020 13:08
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

I just updated via Flatpak and it produced GC 4.3.

Les


On 12/29/20 4:11 AM, David H wrote:

Michael,

Try https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases

Cheers David H.


On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 19:42, Michael Hendry

wrote:


On 29 Dec 2020, at 09:27, Alan A Holmes 

wrote:

Problems with the links for downloading the Windows version. The
GitHub

link is incorrect, and the Sourceforge link is still making 4.3
available for download.

The GitHub link should be :-


https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.4/gnucash-4.4.
setup.exe (the first 4.4 was 4.3 in the original)

which does allow me to download 4.4.

It's possible that Apple macOS links will have the same problems, as

they appear similar.

Fully understandable, it looks like you had a bit of traumatic day John.

Hope you've had a good night's rest, after having your tipple of choice.

Happy New Year


Alan A Holmes

I’ve tried both options for the Mac included in Alan’s email, but
neither
works:

Apple macOS:

https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.3/Gnucash-Inte
l-4.4-1.dmg

https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/
Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg

The former results in a 404 error, the later gives me an error
message about 4.4.1 and offers me 4.3.1 instead

No rush to fix, but thought I should flag this up.

Hoping 2021 turns out better than its predecessor for all in the GC
community,

Michael
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[GNC] Printing

[Gerald Ellis]

How can I get gnucash to recognize my HP4500 printer through CUPS and
attached to a USB port?

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Re: [GNC] New user account setup question

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 12/29/2020 2:17 PM, Charles Hudson wrote:

First post: Greetings to all and thanks for your help.  Because I have
never used GNUCASH before, am unfamiliar with its reporting capabilities
and am only conversant with basic accounting principles, I have a couple of
questions about how to set up the chart of accounts.  Briefly:

I want to track investments with some granularity.  For example, if I buy
the same stock more than once - at different times and perhaps at different
prices - I will need to account for these differences when I sell.  So it
seems to me that the hierarchy under Assets would be:

Investments (placeholder)
  > Brokerage firm account (placeholder)
  > Stocks (placeholder)
  > Individual security, e.g. "XOM" (also a placeholder)
> Group or "lot" of stocks against which
transactions are recorded

So if I buy XOM at 50 in March and XOM at 60 in August and sell both lots
at 70 in October I have two lots, one with a short term capital gain of 10
per share and one with long-term capital gain of 20 per share.

Does this make sense or am I looking at it wrong?


You are looking at it the right way. That's more or less how I set it up 
for "inventory lots" dealing with tee shirts sold by a non-profit but 
not all lots at exactly the same cost. In that case, I was using FIFO 
for the "cost of goods sold" part of tee shirt sales.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Can't get GNUCASH to work on OSX

[David H]

Ralph,

Go to system prefs under Security and Policy and see if there's  a prompt
to allow Gnucash to run - working from memory here so I think that's where
it used to show up for me.

Michael,

Check your system prefs under Security and Policy - I have "Allow apps
downloaded from:" set to "App Store and identified developers" and don't
get prompted to allow a new version to run.  All I ever do is mount and
open the dmg, CTRL-A to select all files and in Applications CTRL-V to
paste and select copy over if I already have Gnucash installed.

Cheers David H.


On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 22:16, Michael Hendry 
wrote:

> > On 29 Dec 2020, at 12:08, Ralph Musto via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> >
> > HI all,
> > I have been trying to install GNUCASH on OSX 10.14.6 but with no
> success. New set-up, fresh install.
> >
> > After download and moving the app to Applications. When I run it the
> Icon bounces in the dock for a second or two and then just disappears. No
> error messages, nothing.
> >
> > Anybody know how I can find out and fix what is wrong?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ralph
>
> Just try running it again - this appears to be a “feature” of MacOS.
>
> I downloaded, installed and ran “Check and Repair” on all my books this
> morning, but I did have to run the new version twice.
>
> Michael
>
>
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Re: [GNC] New user account setup question

[David Carlson]

Charles,

Welcome to Gnucash  and the Gnucash-user mail list.

You are generally on the right track.  If you follow the examples in the
Tutorial you will see that your brokerage account should not be a
placeholder type because it will be the conduit for funds in and out of
investment s.

Also, there is no need for a stock placeholder.   It is best to commingle
lots within a security account for each symbol, so lots can be combined or
split as required.   There is feature in Gnucash called Lots which is
supposed to automate lot tracking, but it assumes FIFO method, and
historically has been buggy, so I don't use it.  I track lots manually by
assigning lot numbers in the notes field of each purchase and sale
transaction.

In closing transactions it is a little tricky converting unrealized gains
and losses to realized  as there is no explicit tracking of cost basis.
There are different opinions on the best way to do that.

Have fun and ask more questions when you need to.



On Tue, Dec 29, 2020, 1:20 PM Charles Hudson  wrote:

> First post: Greetings to all and thanks for your help.  Because I have
> never used GNUCASH before, am unfamiliar with its reporting capabilities
> and am only conversant with basic accounting principles, I have a couple of
> questions about how to set up the chart of accounts.  Briefly:
>
> I want to track investments with some granularity.  For example, if I buy
> the same stock more than once - at different times and perhaps at different
> prices - I will need to account for these differences when I sell.  So it
> seems to me that the hierarchy under Assets would be:
>
> Investments (placeholder)
>  > Brokerage firm account (placeholder)
>  > Stocks (placeholder)
>  > Individual security, e.g. "XOM" (also a placeholder)
>> Group or "lot" of stocks against which
> transactions are recorded
>
> So if I buy XOM at 50 in March and XOM at 60 in August and sell both lots
> at 70 in October I have two lots, one with a short term capital gain of 10
> per share and one with long-term capital gain of 20 per share.
>
> Does this make sense or am I looking at it wrong?
>
> Thanks for your replies.
>
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[GNC] New user account setup question

[Charles Hudson]

First post: Greetings to all and thanks for your help.  Because I have
never used GNUCASH before, am unfamiliar with its reporting capabilities
and am only conversant with basic accounting principles, I have a couple of
questions about how to set up the chart of accounts.  Briefly:

I want to track investments with some granularity.  For example, if I buy
the same stock more than once - at different times and perhaps at different
prices - I will need to account for these differences when I sell.  So it
seems to me that the hierarchy under Assets would be:

Investments (placeholder)
 > Brokerage firm account (placeholder)
 > Stocks (placeholder)
 > Individual security, e.g. "XOM" (also a placeholder)
   > Group or "lot" of stocks against which
transactions are recorded

So if I buy XOM at 50 in March and XOM at 60 in August and sell both lots
at 70 in October I have two lots, one with a short term capital gain of 10
per share and one with long-term capital gain of 20 per share.

Does this make sense or am I looking at it wrong?

Thanks for your replies.


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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

[John Ralls]

Sorry for the bad URIs. I've corrected the direct links on the 
www.gnucash.org/news.phtml and sent a correction email to gnucash-announce.

I made some adjustments and started a new Flathub build that should be done in 
an hour or so.

https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798067 reports a problem with the 
Windows package failing because of a missing symbol in libpng. Has anyone else 
had a problem with it?

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Dec 29, 2020, at 8:50 AM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> The 'Github' link given below allowed an installation that worked for me. 
> Thanks a lot guys! A disappearing accounts program half way through the 
> annual accounts is rather stressful!!
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user 
>  On Behalf Of Les
> Sent: 29 December 2020 13:08
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released
> 
> I just updated via Flatpak and it produced GC 4.3.
> 
> Les
> 
> 
> On 12/29/20 4:11 AM, David H wrote:
>> Michael,
>> 
>> Try https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases
>> 
>> Cheers David H.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 19:42, Michael Hendry 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
 On 29 Dec 2020, at 09:27, Alan A Holmes 
>>> wrote:
 Problems with the links for downloading the Windows version. The 
 GitHub
>>> link is incorrect, and the Sourceforge link is still making 4.3 
>>> available for download.
 The GitHub link should be :-
 
>>> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.4/gnucash-4.4.
>>> setup.exe (the first 4.4 was 4.3 in the original)
 which does allow me to download 4.4.
 
 It's possible that Apple macOS links will have the same problems, as
>>> they appear similar.
 
 Fully understandable, it looks like you had a bit of traumatic day John.
>>> Hope you've had a good night's rest, after having your tipple of choice.
 Happy New Year
 
 
 Alan A Holmes
>>> I’ve tried both options for the Mac included in Alan’s email, but 
>>> neither
>>> works:
>>> 
>>> Apple macOS:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.3/Gnucash-Inte
>>> l-4.4-1.dmg
>>> 
>>> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/
>>> Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg
>>> 
>>> The former results in a 404 error, the later gives me an error 
>>> message about 4.4.1 and offers me 4.3.1 instead
>>> 
>>> No rush to fix, but thought I should flag this up.
>>> 
>>> Hoping 2021 turns out better than its predecessor for all in the GC 
>>> community,
>>> 
>>> Michael
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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

[richardbond]

Hi,
The 'Github' link given below allowed an installation that worked for me. 
Thanks a lot guys! A disappearing accounts program half way through the annual 
accounts is rather stressful!!
Richard

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user 
 On Behalf Of Les
Sent: 29 December 2020 13:08
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

I just updated via Flatpak and it produced GC 4.3.

Les


On 12/29/20 4:11 AM, David H wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Try https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases
>
> Cheers David H.
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 19:42, Michael Hendry 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>> On 29 Dec 2020, at 09:27, Alan A Holmes 
>> wrote:
>>> Problems with the links for downloading the Windows version. The 
>>> GitHub
>> link is incorrect, and the Sourceforge link is still making 4.3 
>> available for download.
>>> The GitHub link should be :-
>>>
>> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.4/gnucash-4.4.
>> setup.exe (the first 4.4 was 4.3 in the original)
>>> which does allow me to download 4.4.
>>>
>>> It's possible that Apple macOS links will have the same problems, as
>> they appear similar.
>>>
>>> Fully understandable, it looks like you had a bit of traumatic day John.
>> Hope you've had a good night's rest, after having your tipple of choice.
>>> Happy New Year
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan A Holmes
>> I’ve tried both options for the Mac included in Alan’s email, but 
>> neither
>> works:
>>
>> Apple macOS:
>>
>> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.3/Gnucash-Inte
>> l-4.4-1.dmg
>>
>> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/
>> Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg
>>
>> The former results in a 404 error, the later gives me an error 
>> message about 4.4.1 and offers me 4.3.1 instead
>>
>> No rush to fix, but thought I should flag this up.
>>
>> Hoping 2021 turns out better than its predecessor for all in the GC 
>> community,
>>
>> Michael
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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

[Les]

I just updated via Flatpak and it produced GC 4.3.

Les


On 12/29/20 4:11 AM, David H wrote:

Michael,

Try https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases

Cheers David H.


On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 19:42, Michael Hendry 
wrote:


On 29 Dec 2020, at 09:27, Alan A Holmes 

wrote:

Problems with the links for downloading the Windows version. The GitHub

link is incorrect, and the Sourceforge link is still making 4.3 available
for download.

The GitHub link should be :-


https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.4/gnucash-4.4.setup.exe
(the first 4.4 was 4.3 in the original)

which does allow me to download 4.4.

It's possible that Apple macOS links will have the same problems, as

they appear similar.


Fully understandable, it looks like you had a bit of traumatic day John.

Hope you've had a good night's rest, after having your tipple of choice.

Happy New Year


Alan A Holmes

I’ve tried both options for the Mac included in Alan’s email, but neither
works:

Apple macOS:

https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.3/Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg

https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg

The former results in a 404 error, the later gives me an error message
about 4.4.1 and offers me 4.3.1 instead

No rush to fix, but thought I should flag this up.

Hoping 2021 turns out better than its predecessor for all in the GC
community,

Michael
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 4.4 Announcement

[Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user]

On 12/28/20 10:18 PM, dull...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Microsoft Edge (smart screen) blocks the gnucash-4.4.setup.exe file from
this site

https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases

Is that normal?


I run Gnucash on RHEL8.2, so I have no problem.

I do have a Windows 10 box and solved many Microsoft Edge problems by 
installing Firefox web browser. But I do not intend to run Gnucash on 
that box.


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Re: [GNC] Can't get GNUCASH to work on OSX

[Michael Hendry]

> On 29 Dec 2020, at 12:08, Ralph Musto via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> HI all,
> I have been trying to install GNUCASH on OSX 10.14.6 but with no success. New 
> set-up, fresh install.
> 
> After download and moving the app to Applications. When I run it the Icon 
> bounces in the dock for a second or two and then just disappears. No error 
> messages, nothing.
> 
> Anybody know how I can find out and fix what is wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ralph

Just try running it again - this appears to be a “feature” of MacOS. 

I downloaded, installed and ran “Check and Repair” on all my books this 
morning, but I did have to run the new version twice.

Michael



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[GNC] Can't get GNUCASH to work on OSX

[Ralph Musto via gnucash-user]

HI all,
I have been trying to install GNUCASH on OSX 10.14.6 but with no success. New 
set-up, fresh install.

After download and moving the app to Applications. When I run it the Icon 
bounces in the dock for a second or two and then just disappears. No error 
messages, nothing.

Anybody know how I can find out and fix what is wrong?

Thanks,
Ralph
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Re: [GNC] {GNC} How secure is Gnu-Cash? Good enough for a credit union?

[David Cousens]

Auditing for Dummies by Maire Loughran  is possibly a good starting point for
the novice.It will require some understanding of accounting however.

Forensic and Investigative Accounting (7th Edition) 7th Edition
by Professor D. Larry Crumbley (Author), PhD (Author), CPA (Author), CFF
(Author), CrFA (Author), Lester E. Heitger (Author), G. Stevenson Smith
(Author) for a deeper treatment which will assume a detailed knowledge of
accounting.

The second is expensive but Amazon can have 2nd hand copies much  cheaper,
particluarly earlier editions.

Any similar titles.

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Re: [GNC] {GNC} How secure is Gnu-Cash? Good enough for a credit union?

[Edward Bainton]

Thanks all, that's very helpful.

Can anyone recommend a/the go-to book that outlines (for a novice) those
really basic '100 years ago, this is what we did' controls?

@Adrien that's interesting and makes sense of the standard term in
association rules: 'the Committee must account to the association for the
use of its funds'.

On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 02:16, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> While Rich, Dave & Michael have given you great responses, I'll offer my
> own condensed version:
>
> 'Accounting' is not about 'counting' (the math), but rather about
> control - "Who controls access to what, and how they are held
> 'accountable' for that privilege."
>
> Study methods of literal 'cash' control, and then consider methods and
> means to apply those principles to any non-cash (physical) accounting
> you require. You'll find that those basic principles apply nearly
> universally. 'Control' (in some cases synonymous with 'access') and
> managing it, is key. The application (use case, not computer app) isn't
> relevant to the basic question, but is relevant to the details and
> complexity of the implementation.
>
> For example, proper cash handling/accounting and access/control
> procedures can catch someone stealing a physical $100 bill, not just the
> fact they pilfered $100 total. (I've caught such a case, because those
> procedures were in place.) No software can do this for you. This is
> entirely dependent on procedure and procedure discipline.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 12/28/20 6:01 PM, Edward Bainton wrote:
> > Can anyone give a view on whether Gnucash is suitable for a very small
> > credit union?
> >
> > How would easily can fraud be detected?
> >
> > If not easily, could it be paired with, say, some kind of blockchain
> backup
> > system so as to make fraud detectable?
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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

[David H]

Michael,

Try https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases

Cheers David H.


On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 19:42, Michael Hendry 
wrote:

> > On 29 Dec 2020, at 09:27, Alan A Holmes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Problems with the links for downloading the Windows version. The GitHub
> link is incorrect, and the Sourceforge link is still making 4.3 available
> for download.
> >
> > The GitHub link should be :-
> >
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.4/gnucash-4.4.setup.exe
> (the first 4.4 was 4.3 in the original)
> > which does allow me to download 4.4.
> >
> > It's possible that Apple macOS links will have the same problems, as
> they appear similar.
> >
> >
> > Fully understandable, it looks like you had a bit of traumatic day John.
> Hope you've had a good night's rest, after having your tipple of choice.
> >
> > Happy New Year
> >
> >
> > Alan A Holmes
>
> I’ve tried both options for the Mac included in Alan’s email, but neither
> works:
>
> Apple macOS:
>
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.3/Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg
>
> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg
>
> The former results in a 404 error, the later gives me an error message
> about 4.4.1 and offers me 4.3.1 instead
>
> No rush to fix, but thought I should flag this up.
>
> Hoping 2021 turns out better than its predecessor for all in the GC
> community,
>
> Michael
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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

[Michael Hendry]

> On 29 Dec 2020, at 09:27, Alan A Holmes  wrote:
> 
> Problems with the links for downloading the Windows version. The GitHub link 
> is incorrect, and the Sourceforge link is still making 4.3 available for 
> download.
> 
> The GitHub link should be :-
>   
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.4/gnucash-4.4.setup.exe
>  (the first 4.4 was 4.3 in the original)
> which does allow me to download 4.4.
> 
> It's possible that Apple macOS links will have the same problems, as they 
> appear similar.
> 
> 
> Fully understandable, it looks like you had a bit of traumatic day John. Hope 
> you've had a good night's rest, after having your tipple of choice.
> 
> Happy New Year
> 
> 
> Alan A Holmes

I’ve tried both options for the Mac included in Alan’s email, but neither works:

Apple macOS:
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.3/Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg
 
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg

The former results in a 404 error, the later gives me an error message about 
4.4.1 and offers me 4.3.1 instead

No rush to fix, but thought I should flag this up.

Hoping 2021 turns out better than its predecessor for all in the GC community,

Michael
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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

[Alan A Holmes]

Problems with the links for downloading the Windows version. The GitHub link is 
incorrect, and the Sourceforge link is still making 4.3 available for download.

The GitHub link should be :-

https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.4/gnucash-4.4.setup.exe 
(the first 4.4 was 4.3 in the original)
which does allow me to download 4.4.

It's possible that Apple macOS links will have the same problems, as they 
appear similar.


Fully understandable, it looks like you had a bit of traumatic day John. Hope 
you've had a good night's rest, after having your tipple of choice.

Happy New Year


Alan A Holmes


-Original Message-
From: gnucash-announce 
[mailto:gnucash-announce-bounces+gnucash=alanaholmes.me...@gnucash.org] On 
Behalf Of John Ralls
Sent: 29 December 2020 03:55
To: gnucash-annou...@gnucash.org
Subject: ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 4.4 Released

The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 4.4, the fifth release in the 
stable 4.x series.

This is an unscheduled snap release to fix bug 798063.

Between 4.3 and 4.4, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

• Bug 798038 - Incorrect spelling in german account templates 'common' 
and 'full' part 2: AT
• Bug 798063 - Crash when opening SX Editor
No other improvements were made.

Deprecations

• xaccAccountCountSplits: use gnc_account_has_child_splits
• gnc:html-table-append-column!: Build a new table with all of the 
columns and copy in the rows.
Updated Translations: German, Italian, Japanese

Known Problems

Complete list of all open bugs.

.
Documentation

Concurrent with the release of GnuCash 4.4 we're pleased to also release a new 
version of the companion Help and Tutorial and Concepts Guide

Between 4.3 and 4.4, the following bugfixes were accomplished:

• Bug 798038 - Incorrect spelling in german account templates 'common' 
and 'full', part 3: docs
Getting GnuCash for Windows and MacOS

GnuCash is provided for both Microsoft Windows 8.1® and later and MacOS 10.13 
(High Sierra)® and later in pre-built, all-in-one packages. An installer is 
provided for Microsoft Windows® while the MacOS® package is a disk image 
containing a drag-and-drop application bundle.

The SHA256 Hashes for the downloadable files are:

• d91e0d126b461d71de1bc1b20d9cf142704353dec07d3e6599d138422759e67a  
gnucash-4.4.tar.bz2
• 521ad979f0d59c3568a6300644d7cf435ebd829b1c2eea88752e983b2fce08b5  
gnucash-4.4.tar.gz
• 34879ef4957a2768f96747ca4f6f8732107d23cac5132d6dc655ae8e53e3798c  
gnucash-4.4.setup.exe
• e6627feea1eb4aa6eafb05dd434fc2bc6954322152d8559f78901848c64631ca  
Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg
• 298977e7dddce83335e1f988e6977cb010e37b289c31d09b15df4af526e4ba35  
gnucash-docs-4.4.tar.gz

Microsoft Windows:
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.3/gnucash-4.4.setup.exe  
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/gnucash-4.4.setup.exe

Apple macOS:
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.3/Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/Gnucash-Intel-4.4-1.dmg

GnuCash is now available as a flatpak from Flathub.org. Instructions for 
installing and running may be found at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak.

Getting GnuCash as source code
If you want to compile GnuCash 4.4 for yourself, the source code can be 
downloaded from:
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.3/gnucash-4.4.tar.bz2
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.3/gnucash-4.4.tar.gz
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/gnucash-4.4.tar.bz2
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/gnucash-4.4.tar.gz

You can also checkout the sources directly from the git repository, see
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git for instructions.

To compile GnuCash from the source code by yourself, you will need at least 
Gtk+ 3.24, Guile 2.0, Boost 1.54, WebKitGtk 2.4, GoogleTest 1.7.0, cmake 3.10 
and SWIG 2.0.12 if compiling from git. Please consult the README.dependencies 
file in the sources for the exact list of dependencies and versions.

Getting the documentation

If you want to compile the GnuCash Documentation 4.4 for yourself, the source 
code can be downloaded from:
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.4/gnucash-docs-4.4.tar.gz
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.4/gnucash-docs-4.4.tar.gz

Note that the documentation for stable releases is not on the GnuCash website. 
It is built daily and may be found on the development server under the locale 
directory; "C" is English, "de" is German, and so on.

The documentation is included in the MacOS and Windows application bundles.
About the Program

GnuCash is a free, open source accounting program released under the GNU 
General Public License (GPL) and available for GNU/Linux, *BSD, Solaris, MacOS, 
and Microsoft Windows. Programming on