Re: [GNC] Import is finding no matching transactions

[Jean L]

Yes, if the transactions have been imported before, they will not even 
show in the matching dialog, in the latest version of GC.

J

On 5/14/2022 4:26 PM, Greg Feneis wrote:

Another possibility is if you happen to be trying to import transactions
that GnuCash thinks have already been imported, the matcher dialogue may
appear like there are no transactions being proposed to be imported,
essentially there will be nothing displayed in the matcher dialogue. Just
in case this is what you're seeing.  This according to how GnuCash 3.21
works.  Maybe newer GnuCash still works the same?

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Sat, May 14, 2022, 14:20 Jean L  wrote:


Can you give us more details? Are you saying that GC does not show
matching transactions, but does it at least show the imported
transactions (and fails to find matches)?

Note that the transaction dates have to match (the imported transactions
and the ones you have in your ledger) for them to be matched (look in
your preferences, the "import" tab, that's where the thresholds are
adjusted for days), they don't have to match exactly depending on the
"likely match day threshold" but they have to be within that. You could
try to debug by lowering the "match display threshold" to see whether
that helps GC find them. But in theory, if the days match and the
amounts match, GC should find the transactions and show them in the
reconcile dialog.

On 5/14/2022 2:06 PM, Thepwnd via gnucash-user wrote:

Hi all,

So I am still fairly new to Gnucash (and personal finances for that

matter), but I've been using it the last 2 months and change to track my
family's spending. I primarily use my debit card for daily purchases, but I
have begun keeping receipts for more immediate entry into the ledger and to
more accurately track what categories I spend the most money in. However,
there are still some purchases I make that don't give me a receipt, and in
those cases, the only record I have is on my bank statement.

I would like to be able to import my bank statement occasionally to

catch all those transactions, but not duplicate all the ones I already
entered. My understanding is that when importing transactions from a bank
statement, Gnucash should be able to match any existing transactions on the
ledger and mark those as "Reconcile" on the statement. I swear this was
working when I first started using Gnucash, but now, when I try to import
my bank statement, Gnucash isn't finding any matches on the ledger, even
though the vast majority of the transactions on the statement already exist
in Gnucash.

I can't figure out what happened, and there don't appear to be any

preferences for imports or matching, so I'm not sure what I might have
changed to cause this to stop working. Does anyone here have any ideas?

Thanks in advance!
-Aaron

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Re: [GNC] Import is finding no matching transactions

[Greg Feneis]

Another possibility is if you happen to be trying to import transactions
that GnuCash thinks have already been imported, the matcher dialogue may
appear like there are no transactions being proposed to be imported,
essentially there will be nothing displayed in the matcher dialogue. Just
in case this is what you're seeing.  This according to how GnuCash 3.21
works.  Maybe newer GnuCash still works the same?

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Sat, May 14, 2022, 14:20 Jean L  wrote:

> Can you give us more details? Are you saying that GC does not show
> matching transactions, but does it at least show the imported
> transactions (and fails to find matches)?
>
> Note that the transaction dates have to match (the imported transactions
> and the ones you have in your ledger) for them to be matched (look in
> your preferences, the "import" tab, that's where the thresholds are
> adjusted for days), they don't have to match exactly depending on the
> "likely match day threshold" but they have to be within that. You could
> try to debug by lowering the "match display threshold" to see whether
> that helps GC find them. But in theory, if the days match and the
> amounts match, GC should find the transactions and show them in the
> reconcile dialog.
>
> On 5/14/2022 2:06 PM, Thepwnd via gnucash-user wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > So I am still fairly new to Gnucash (and personal finances for that
> matter), but I've been using it the last 2 months and change to track my
> family's spending. I primarily use my debit card for daily purchases, but I
> have begun keeping receipts for more immediate entry into the ledger and to
> more accurately track what categories I spend the most money in. However,
> there are still some purchases I make that don't give me a receipt, and in
> those cases, the only record I have is on my bank statement.
> >
> > I would like to be able to import my bank statement occasionally to
> catch all those transactions, but not duplicate all the ones I already
> entered. My understanding is that when importing transactions from a bank
> statement, Gnucash should be able to match any existing transactions on the
> ledger and mark those as "Reconcile" on the statement. I swear this was
> working when I first started using Gnucash, but now, when I try to import
> my bank statement, Gnucash isn't finding any matches on the ledger, even
> though the vast majority of the transactions on the statement already exist
> in Gnucash.
> >
> > I can't figure out what happened, and there don't appear to be any
> preferences for imports or matching, so I'm not sure what I might have
> changed to cause this to stop working. Does anyone here have any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > -Aaron
> >
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Re: [GNC] Import is finding no matching transactions

[Jean L]

Can you give us more details? Are you saying that GC does not show 
matching transactions, but does it at least show the imported 
transactions (and fails to find matches)?


Note that the transaction dates have to match (the imported transactions 
and the ones you have in your ledger) for them to be matched (look in 
your preferences, the "import" tab, that's where the thresholds are 
adjusted for days), they don't have to match exactly depending on the 
"likely match day threshold" but they have to be within that. You could 
try to debug by lowering the "match display threshold" to see whether 
that helps GC find them. But in theory, if the days match and the 
amounts match, GC should find the transactions and show them in the 
reconcile dialog.


On 5/14/2022 2:06 PM, Thepwnd via gnucash-user wrote:

Hi all,

So I am still fairly new to Gnucash (and personal finances for that matter), 
but I've been using it the last 2 months and change to track my family's 
spending. I primarily use my debit card for daily purchases, but I have begun 
keeping receipts for more immediate entry into the ledger and to more 
accurately track what categories I spend the most money in. However, there are 
still some purchases I make that don't give me a receipt, and in those cases, 
the only record I have is on my bank statement.

I would like to be able to import my bank statement occasionally to catch all those 
transactions, but not duplicate all the ones I already entered. My understanding is that 
when importing transactions from a bank statement, Gnucash should be able to match any 
existing transactions on the ledger and mark those as "Reconcile" on the 
statement. I swear this was working when I first started using Gnucash, but now, when I 
try to import my bank statement, Gnucash isn't finding any matches on the ledger, even 
though the vast majority of the transactions on the statement already exist in Gnucash.

I can't figure out what happened, and there don't appear to be any preferences 
for imports or matching, so I'm not sure what I might have changed to cause 
this to stop working. Does anyone here have any ideas?

Thanks in advance!
-Aaron

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[GNC] Import is finding no matching transactions

[Thepwnd via gnucash-user]

Hi all,

So I am still fairly new to Gnucash (and personal finances for that matter), 
but I've been using it the last 2 months and change to track my family's 
spending. I primarily use my debit card for daily purchases, but I have begun 
keeping receipts for more immediate entry into the ledger and to more 
accurately track what categories I spend the most money in. However, there are 
still some purchases I make that don't give me a receipt, and in those cases, 
the only record I have is on my bank statement.

I would like to be able to import my bank statement occasionally to catch all 
those transactions, but not duplicate all the ones I already entered. My 
understanding is that when importing transactions from a bank statement, 
Gnucash should be able to match any existing transactions on the ledger and 
mark those as "Reconcile" on the statement. I swear this was working when I 
first started using Gnucash, but now, when I try to import my bank statement, 
Gnucash isn't finding any matches on the ledger, even though the vast majority 
of the transactions on the statement already exist in Gnucash.

I can't figure out what happened, and there don't appear to be any preferences 
for imports or matching, so I'm not sure what I might have changed to cause 
this to stop working. Does anyone here have any ideas?

Thanks in advance!
-Aaron

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Re: [GNC] Am I in business?

[davidcousens49]

Arthur,

While forums may be useful to gain some understanding of financial matters and
accounting for them, you always need to check carefully that any
advice/procedures provided on a website or forum (including anything said in
this forum) is actually applicable to your situation and in your jurisdiction.

You are operating a business a business and possibly are in a partnership with 
your ex if you both own the properties. 
Setting this up is really going to require professional legal and accounting
advice to ensure proper legal protection for you and your ex and compliance with
tax legislation on both your parts. Apart from that, those of us also in
Australia, would likely be breaking the law, if we provided such advice.

David Cousens.

On Sat, 2022-05-14 at 15:05 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 14/5/22 10:31 am, arthur brogard via gnucash-user wrote:
> > Hope this is the right way to introduce a new question/thread.
> > 
> > I and my ex jointly own four properties two of which are rented out.
> > We are not registered for gst and are not in business though I have an ABN
> > leftover from when I attempted an online business.
> > Are we conducting an enterprise?  Will be be eligible to pay GST when we
> > sell any of those properties?
> > Should we be keeping certain records?
> > Should the arrangement be formalised as a partnership or something?
> > What should we be aware of?
> > I'm putting my personal household expenses etc. into gnucash but not in any
> > really strict or serious way.  Should I be getting that more properly
> > organised?
> > This is the only forum I know of where I can ask such questions.  If it's
> > misuse of this forum and anyone knows a more fitting place please let me
> > know.
> > :)
> > ab
> > 
> 
> This is a software users list, for seeking assistance in using the 
> particular software.
> 
> Asking what you have, is like going and sitting in the waiting area of a 
> medical practice or a hospital, and seeking qualified medical advice 
> from  the people waiting to get medical advice and treatment.
> 
> If you want to get brain surgery, or, your house built and maintained, 
> or, your car serviced, by a layman, who might not have relevant skills 
> or experience, then, okay, do it that way.
> 
> As an unqualified layman, my personal opinion, of no consequence, being 
> not a qualified professional, is quite simple - you are renting out at 
> least one property - you are obtaining income by other than direct 
> payment for your labour (wages); therefore, you are operating a business.
> 
> Go to a qualified and accredited, practising accountant.
> 
> Whilst you conspicuously omitted the information of where you are 
> located, with the use of the terms GST and ABN, in combination, you 
> appear to be in Australia.
> 
> Therefore, you would be subject to Australian taxes and tax laws.
> 
> Which means that, ever since you started renting out your properties, 
> you are supposed to have been declaring all income and expenditure, 
> related to them, and, possibly your residence.
> 
> In Australia, I believe that the applicable term for whom you need to 
> see, is a CPA - a Certified Practising Accountant.
> 
> You need to consult with one, as soon as possible. Find one in your 
> area, and, make an appointment, and explain all of your sources of 
> income, and, seek CERTIFIED, QUALIFIED, advice, as soon as possible.
> 
> Fines for not having met obligations regarding tax laws, can be 
> expensive, and, provide no benefits (other than an expensive learning 
> experience) for the individual.
> 
> Lack Of Knowledge is no defence (people often quote the malapropism 
> "Ignorance is no defence", but, ignorance involves a deliberate act to 
> ignore knowledge, which is different to lacking the knowledge).
> 
> Asking here, for the advice that you have asked, is the same as getting 
> sex education from a group of idiots hiding somewhere, inhaling toxic 
> smoke, for the fun of it (mostly, purely because it is forbidden and 
> unhealthy, making them, more the idiots) - you might get someone who 
> knows what they are talking about, and, you may not.
> 
> This is a software users mailing list, not a forum for getting the 
> advice that should be available from a Certified Practising Accountant, 
> and, a Certified Practising Accountant, of Australia, familiar with 
> Australian tax law, is the only kind of person, from whom you should be 
> seeking the advice that you are seeking, and, the only source of advice 
> of which you should heed, other than the advice to go and consult with one.
> 

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Re: [GNC] question

[Greg Feneis]

I thought perhaps Quicken has a dialogue/wizard feature that appears as a
paper check and works as an easily filled form that the user may repeatedly
fill as if writing a paper check (QuickBooks had this, I imagine Quicken
does too). This might be what the OP is asking to find.  GnuCash doesn't
have this feature.  I think the previously mentioned tutorial should get
the OP on the right track


Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Fri, May 13, 2022, 06:02 Derek Atkins  wrote:

> Michael,
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2022 8:50 am, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> >> First, I highly recommend you read the GnuCash documentation.  The
> >> Tutorial and Guide are very useful in explaining the concepts, and the
> >> Help is useful at explaining what the buttons do.
> >>
> >> Having said that, there are two ways to enter a transaction like a
> >> Check.
> >> The first is to open the Transfer Dialog (Ctrl-T) and enter the date,
> >> amount, source (e.g. Assets:Checking) and destination (e.g.
> >> Expenses:Rent).
> >> The second is to open the account register of the checking account and
> >> from there you can create a transaction for the expense.
> >
> > OR, in the second case, you could open the account for the expense and
> > do it there. With gnucash, entering a transaction affecting just two
> > accounts you can do it form the ledger account of either. But please
> > note IF AN EXPENSE. When you write a check, this will be a credit to the
> > checking account. The debit side of the transaction will usually be an
> > account under expense BUT NOT NECESSARILY SO. For some examples:
>
> Considering the OP said "doesn't know accounting", I chose not to
> introduce this because in the majority of cases it will just confuse the
> user and they will enter the transaction incorrectly.  Also, most humans
> intuitively understand transactions from an Asset or Liability, but have a
> much harder time "originating" a transaction from an Income or Expense
> account.
>
> Yes, a user CAN enter a transaction from any account, but IMNSHO a newbie
> user should be encouraged to enter them from an Asset or Liability account
> to reduce the chance of errors and confusion.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [GNC] a place to ask personal finance questions [was: Re: Am I in business?]

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On 2022-05-13 7:31 p.m., arthur brogard via gnucash-user wrote:


…This is the only forum I know of where I can ask such questions.  If it's 
misuse of this forum and anyone knows a more fitting place please let me know.…


Another forum that might be a good place to ask such questions is the 
Personal Finance and Money Stack Exchange 
. They even have a tag for "[gnucash]" 
questions.



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Re: [GNC] Am I in business?

[Bret Busby]

On 14/5/22 10:31 am, arthur brogard via gnucash-user wrote:

Hope this is the right way to introduce a new question/thread.

I and my ex jointly own four properties two of which are rented out.
We are not registered for gst and are not in business though I have an ABN 
leftover from when I attempted an online business.
Are we conducting an enterprise?  Will be be eligible to pay GST when we sell 
any of those properties?
Should we be keeping certain records?
Should the arrangement be formalised as a partnership or something?
What should we be aware of?
I'm putting my personal household expenses etc. into gnucash but not in any 
really strict or serious way.  Should I be getting that more properly organised?
This is the only forum I know of where I can ask such questions.  If it's 
misuse of this forum and anyone knows a more fitting place please let me know.
:)
ab



This is a software users list, for seeking assistance in using the 
particular software.


Asking what you have, is like going and sitting in the waiting area of a 
medical practice or a hospital, and seeking qualified medical advice 
from  the people waiting to get medical advice and treatment.


If you want to get brain surgery, or, your house built and maintained, 
or, your car serviced, by a layman, who might not have relevant skills 
or experience, then, okay, do it that way.


As an unqualified layman, my personal opinion, of no consequence, being 
not a qualified professional, is quite simple - you are renting out at 
least one property - you are obtaining income by other than direct 
payment for your labour (wages); therefore, you are operating a business.


Go to a qualified and accredited, practising accountant.

Whilst you conspicuously omitted the information of where you are 
located, with the use of the terms GST and ABN, in combination, you 
appear to be in Australia.


Therefore, you would be subject to Australian taxes and tax laws.

Which means that, ever since you started renting out your properties, 
you are supposed to have been declaring all income and expenditure, 
related to them, and, possibly your residence.


In Australia, I believe that the applicable term for whom you need to 
see, is a CPA - a Certified Practising Accountant.


You need to consult with one, as soon as possible. Find one in your 
area, and, make an appointment, and explain all of your sources of 
income, and, seek CERTIFIED, QUALIFIED, advice, as soon as possible.


Fines for not having met obligations regarding tax laws, can be 
expensive, and, provide no benefits (other than an expensive learning 
experience) for the individual.


Lack Of Knowledge is no defence (people often quote the malapropism 
"Ignorance is no defence", but, ignorance involves a deliberate act to 
ignore knowledge, which is different to lacking the knowledge).


Asking here, for the advice that you have asked, is the same as getting 
sex education from a group of idiots hiding somewhere, inhaling toxic 
smoke, for the fun of it (mostly, purely because it is forbidden and 
unhealthy, making them, more the idiots) - you might get someone who 
knows what they are talking about, and, you may not.


This is a software users mailing list, not a forum for getting the 
advice that should be available from a Certified Practising Accountant, 
and, a Certified Practising Accountant, of Australia, familiar with 
Australian tax law, is the only kind of person, from whom you should be 
seeking the advice that you are seeking, and, the only source of advice 
of which you should heed, other than the advice to go and consult with one.


--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..

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Re: [GNC] invoice function for android app

[Jim DeLaHunt]

Hello, Jonathan! Greetings from across the water in Vancouver.

On 2022-05-13 10:33 p.m., goedible wrote:

Hi.  How could I support the creation of the invoicing feature that exists in 
the desktop version into the android version of gnu cash?  Perhaps with 
additional features for starting the clock and pausing for breaks in 
realtime.Jonathan Francoeur a.k.a. Kernel HazelnutEverything Edible Landscaping 
H.Q.48.381980, -123.707835Http://eeLandscaping.blogspot.com250 642 02676411 
Sooke Rd., Sooke, B.C., Canada, V9Z 0A8


It sounds like you are asking about the Android app, "GnuCash for Android".

That app is a separate project from GnuCash, the desktop application. 
This list is not the right place to reach the developers of that app. 
Some of what this project knows about GnuCash and Mobile Devices is on 
our wiki at .


It looks like a project page for "GnuCash for Android" is at 
. I see there that "Pull 
requests are always welcome!" But I also see there that their support 
community was on Google+, which has been shut down. And the most recent 
change to the code seems to have been 18 months ago. Maybe that project 
is not very active at the moment.


Also, when you say, "additional features for starting the clock and 
pausing for breaks in realtime", it sounds to me like you are asking for 
task timing: 1 hours 32 minutes working on Project A, 12 minute break, 
55 minutes on Project B, etc. I don't see anything on the GnuCash for 
Android page which says that this functionality is part of their scope. 
It is not in scope for GnuCash desktop either.


But I totally understand the value of the feature. One of the reasons I 
keep paying for the commercial web app Freshbooks is because they do 
task timing well and make it really easy for me. I track my time and 
generate invoices from Freshbooks, then enter the invoice information in 
duplicate in GnuCash. Freshbooks does have an Android app 
 but I don't use it, 
and I don't know if it does task timing.


A search for "Time tracking" in the Android store might turn up some 
candidate apps.


Does that answer your question?

Best regards,
    —Jim DeLaHunt, Vancouver, B.C., Canada



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Re: [GNC] Import Map Editor - accidentally deleted account

[Bogdan]

Hello, does anybody have a suggestion how to fix the import map editor?

On Wed, May 11, 2022, 12:26 Bogdan  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've accidentally deleted several accounts in the Import Map Editor -
> Bayesian (actually, I was trying to delete a match string but it would
> delete the entire source account with all match strings). Now, obviously,
> matching on import no longer works for these accounts.
>

Is there a way to restore it?
>

Making a new import does not record the missing account in the Import Map
> Editor (and match strings are not recorded).
>
> Thanks!
>
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