Re: [GNC] Balance Sheet mismatch

[davidcousens49]

Fred,

The price database is stored in your main datafile for the set of books. You can
edit it from the Tools->Price Database  in the menu.

David Cousens
On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 21:50 -0700, Fred Tydeman wrote:
> I have made a test file with just two transactions:
>   Opening Balance in GBP on 3/13/2011
>   xfer and convert to USD 1/1/2016
> So, those two transactions put two entries in the Price database for GBP.
> I then added a third price between those two dates on 1/11/2013
> The Balance Sheet shows a mismatch if run on 1/11/2013 or any date after
> that date
> but is OK if run on 1/10/2013 or any date earlier
> The value of the GBP (reported in USD) is changing in the Assets section of
> the report,
> but the Equity section is remaining constant.
> Should the Equity section show an Unrealized gain/loss?
> This looks like a bug to me.  I am not sure how to report, or what is
> needed.
> The test2.gnucash file is around 5000 bytes small
> Now sure where the Price history is kept, nor the Report options.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 7:56 AM Fred Tydeman  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 6:45 AM Fred Tydeman 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > I am now trying going back in time to see when the first imbalance starts.
> > > How do I get a list of transactions in a specific date range?
> > > Is there a way to find stock/mutual fund prices of zero(0)?
> > > 
> > 
> > First mismatch happens back in 2012.
> > It appears that using Report Options / Commodities / Price Source of
> > Closest to report date   is a problem when the date of the report
> > is between two dates of a Foreign currency exchange rate in Price Database.
> > However, that is not the only problem, as now using
> > Last up through report date for Commodities, I get a mismatch
> > when the Balance sheet report is the same date as a Price Database entry
> > of a foreign currency.
> > 
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Re: [GNC] Balance Sheet mismatch

[Fred Tydeman]

I have made a test file with just two transactions:
  Opening Balance in GBP on 3/13/2011
  xfer and convert to USD 1/1/2016
So, those two transactions put two entries in the Price database for GBP.
I then added a third price between those two dates on 1/11/2013
The Balance Sheet shows a mismatch if run on 1/11/2013 or any date after
that date
but is OK if run on 1/10/2013 or any date earlier
The value of the GBP (reported in USD) is changing in the Assets section of
the report,
but the Equity section is remaining constant.
Should the Equity section show an Unrealized gain/loss?
This looks like a bug to me.  I am not sure how to report, or what is
needed.
The test2.gnucash file is around 5000 bytes small
Now sure where the Price history is kept, nor the Report options.



On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 7:56 AM Fred Tydeman  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 6:45 AM Fred Tydeman 
> wrote:
>
>> I am now trying going back in time to see when the first imbalance starts.
>> How do I get a list of transactions in a specific date range?
>> Is there a way to find stock/mutual fund prices of zero(0)?
>>
>
> First mismatch happens back in 2012.
> It appears that using Report Options / Commodities / Price Source of
> Closest to report date   is a problem when the date of the report
> is between two dates of a Foreign currency exchange rate in Price Database.
> However, that is not the only problem, as now using
> Last up through report date for Commodities, I get a mismatch
> when the Balance sheet report is the same date as a Price Database entry
> of a foreign currency.
>
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Re: [GNC] Switching from Quickbooks and getting started

[Jim DeLaHunt]

Hello, Christine, and welcome to GnuCash!

One way to get started is:

1. Read through GnuCash's Tutorial and Concepts Guide
   ,
2. Download the GnuCash app 
3. Install the GnuCash app: do the usual thing on Windows and macOS,
   and read  for Linux or
   if you encounter problems
4. Run GnuCash, create a simple new account hierarchy and new book,
   purely for experimentation. Import data. Try things out. Make
   mistakes. It's only a test book, not your real data.
5. Now start over and make your real account hierarchy and new real
   book. Start importing data for real.
6. As needed, read the GnuCash Help manual
   .
7. As needed, get help from the community. Send mail to this list,
   follow suggestions at .
8. Consider how well you understand the fundamentals of double-entry
   bookkeeping. GnuCash requires you to use double-entry concepts, it
   does not attempt to hide them from you. If double-entry bookkeeping
   is new to you, maybe read an introductory accounting textbook.

Are those clues helpful? Best regards,
    —Jim DeLaHunt


On 2022-06-02 12:13, Christine McSweeney wrote:

I have been using Quickbooks for personal finances and a small business for
which I generate invoices.  Haven't a clue for how to set up gnuchash

*Christine*
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[GNC] Switching from Quickbooks and getting started

[Christine McSweeney]

I have been using Quickbooks for personal finances and a small business for
which I generate invoices.  Haven't a clue for how to set up gnuchash

*Christine*
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Re: [GNC] Strange incorrect due date calculated on a duplicated bill

[Adrien Monteleone]

Thanks, done: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798547

Regards,
Adrien

On 6/2/22 11:48 AM, Geert Janssens via gnucash-user wrote:

Op donderdag 2 juni 2022 18:22:40 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:

Indeed, testing both 2020 and 2022 November dates result in a 19day due
date rather than 20.

I also tested the March dates for moving from standard to daylight time
and those worked correctly. (they didn't add a day)

Should I go ahead and file a bug?


Please do. It looks like the due date calculation is doing something wrong when
daylight saving time gets reverted.


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Re: [GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[Adrien Monteleone]

Yes, it is Preferences > Business > Invoices/Bills > 'Process payments 
on posting'.


I use it and it auto-applies outstanding pre-payment/over-payment credit 
situations.


Of course, one has to have already 'processed payment' for that 
vendor/customer for the feature to 'see' the amount to apply towards the 
current invoice/bill.


Regards,
Adrien

On 6/2/22 11:50 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:

Op donderdag 2 juni 2022 18:05:13 CEST schreef Derek Atkins:

On Thu, June 2, 2022 11:49 am, David Burleigh wrote:

On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:44 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:

[snip]


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Re: [GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[Geert Janssens]

Op donderdag 2 juni 2022 18:05:13 CEST schreef Derek Atkins:
> On Thu, June 2, 2022 11:49 am, David Burleigh wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:44 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> >> So you're not actually telling GnuCash to *add* existing credits.
> >> You need to do that so GnuCash knows you want to apply them to *this*
> >> invoice (instead of waiting to apply them to another invoice).
> >> 
> >> Do that, and then turn on "Show Payments" in the report options.
> >> 
> >> -derek
> > 
> > But how do you tell it to add existing credits to a new invoice? I
> > don't see that option anywhere in the interface.
> 
> After you post you need to Process Payment to attach the credit.
> Unfortunately GnuCash no longer auto-applies credits.

I thought that was still an option. But perhaps disabled by default ?

Regards,

Geert

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Re: [GNC] Strange incorrect due date calculated on a duplicated bill

[Geert Janssens via gnucash-user]

Op donderdag 2 juni 2022 18:22:40 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> Indeed, testing both 2020 and 2022 November dates result in a 19day due
> date rather than 20.
> 
> I also tested the March dates for moving from standard to daylight time
> and those worked correctly. (they didn't add a day)
> 
> Should I go ahead and file a bug?
> 
Please do. It looks like the due date calculation is doing something wrong when 
daylight saving time gets reverted.

Regards,

Geert
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Re: [GNC] Strange incorrect due date calculated on a duplicated bill

[Adrien Monteleone]

Indeed, testing both 2020 and 2022 November dates result in a 19day due 
date rather than 20.


I also tested the March dates for moving from standard to daylight time 
and those worked correctly. (they didn't add a day)


Should I go ahead and file a bug?

Regards,
Adrien

On 6/2/22 1:14 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:

A quick test would be to post an invoice on such a date in other years, for 
example on the day summer time switched to standard time in 2020 or will change 
in 2022.


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Re: [GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[David Burleigh via gnucash-user]

On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 12:17 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, June 2, 2022 12:07 pm, David Burleigh wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 12:05 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > > 
> > > > But how do you tell it to add existing credits to a new
> > > > invoice? I
> > > > don't see that option anywhere in the interface.
> > > 
> > > After you post you need to Process Payment to attach the credit.
> > > Unfortunately GnuCash no longer auto-applies credits.
> > > 
> > > -derek
> > > 
> > 
> > Too bad. So I have to edit the printed invoice manually to indicate
> > the
> > account balance. Well, thanks for your time. 
> 
> No, that's not at all what I said.
> 
> I said you have to tell GnuCash to apply the outstanding credit to
> the new
> invoice by using Process Payment.  And then you need to go into the
> Report
> Options and tell GnuCash to display the payments attached to the
> invoice.
> 
> You do NOT need to edit the printed invoice manually.
> 
> By the way, there is another option that may suit you.  Your other
> option
> is to use the Customer Report, which will list all the invoices and
> payments and provide an account balance.
> 
> -derek
> 

Oh, ok. Thank you!
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Re: [GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

On Thu, June 2, 2022 12:07 pm, David Burleigh wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 12:05 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
>>
>> > But how do you tell it to add existing credits to a new invoice? I
>> > don't see that option anywhere in the interface.
>>
>> After you post you need to Process Payment to attach the credit.
>> Unfortunately GnuCash no longer auto-applies credits.
>>
>> -derek
>>
>
> Too bad. So I have to edit the printed invoice manually to indicate the
> account balance. Well, thanks for your time. 

No, that's not at all what I said.

I said you have to tell GnuCash to apply the outstanding credit to the new
invoice by using Process Payment.  And then you need to go into the Report
Options and tell GnuCash to display the payments attached to the invoice.

You do NOT need to edit the printed invoice manually.

By the way, there is another option that may suit you.  Your other option
is to use the Customer Report, which will list all the invoices and
payments and provide an account balance.

-derek

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Re: [GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[David Burleigh via gnucash-user]

On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 12:05 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> 
> On Thu, June 2, 2022 11:49 am, David Burleigh wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:44 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> [snip]
> > > So you're not actually telling GnuCash to *add* existing credits.
> > > You need to do that so GnuCash knows you want to apply them to
> > > *this*
> > > invoice (instead of waiting to apply them to another invoice).
> > > 
> > > Do that, and then turn on "Show Payments" in the report options.
> > > 
> > > -derek
> > 
> > But how do you tell it to add existing credits to a new invoice? I
> > don't see that option anywhere in the interface.
> 
> After you post you need to Process Payment to attach the credit.
> Unfortunately GnuCash no longer auto-applies credits.
> 
> -derek
> 

Too bad. So I have to edit the printed invoice manually to indicate the
account balance. Well, thanks for your time. 
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Re: [GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[Derek Atkins]

On Thu, June 2, 2022 11:49 am, David Burleigh wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:44 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
[snip]
>> So you're not actually telling GnuCash to *add* existing credits.
>> You need to do that so GnuCash knows you want to apply them to *this*
>> invoice (instead of waiting to apply them to another invoice).
>>
>> Do that, and then turn on "Show Payments" in the report options.
>>
>> -derek
>
> But how do you tell it to add existing credits to a new invoice? I
> don't see that option anywhere in the interface.

After you post you need to Process Payment to attach the credit.
Unfortunately GnuCash no longer auto-applies credits.

-derek

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Re: [GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[David Burleigh via gnucash-user]

On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:44 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, June 2, 2022 11:33 am, David Burleigh wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:19 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Thu, June 2, 2022 11:05 am, David Burleigh via gnucash-user
> > > wrote:
> > > > How can I print an invoice that just shows the balance due
> > > > after an
> > > > existing credit is applied, rather than just showing the total
> > > > of
> > > > new
> > > > items billed?
> > > 
> > > Turn on "Show Payments" in the report options?
> > > 
> > I'm generating invoices via "Business>Customer>New Invoice" and
> > then I
> > add billable items and post the invoice. Then I click "Print
> > Invoice"
> > but it just shows the total of the new billable items without
> > applying
> > any existing credit to the balance. I would like the printed
> > invoice to
> > just show the balance on the customer account, rather than just the
> > total of newly-billed items. 
> 
> So you're not actually telling GnuCash to *add* existing credits.
> You need to do that so GnuCash knows you want to apply them to *this*
> invoice (instead of waiting to apply them to another invoice).
> 
> Do that, and then turn on "Show Payments" in the report options.
> 
> -derek

But how do you tell it to add existing credits to a new invoice? I
don't see that option anywhere in the interface.
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Re: [GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

On Thu, June 2, 2022 11:33 am, David Burleigh wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:19 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, June 2, 2022 11:05 am, David Burleigh via gnucash-user wrote:
>> > How can I print an invoice that just shows the balance due after an
>> > existing credit is applied, rather than just showing the total of
>> > new
>> > items billed?
>>
>> Turn on "Show Payments" in the report options?
>>
> I'm generating invoices via "Business>Customer>New Invoice" and then I
> add billable items and post the invoice. Then I click "Print Invoice"
> but it just shows the total of the new billable items without applying
> any existing credit to the balance. I would like the printed invoice to
> just show the balance on the customer account, rather than just the
> total of newly-billed items. 

So you're not actually telling GnuCash to *add* existing credits.
You need to do that so GnuCash knows you want to apply them to *this*
invoice (instead of waiting to apply them to another invoice).

Do that, and then turn on "Show Payments" in the report options.

-derek
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Re: [GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[David Burleigh via gnucash-user]

On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:19 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, June 2, 2022 11:05 am, David Burleigh via gnucash-user wrote:
> > How can I print an invoice that just shows the balance due after an
> > existing credit is applied, rather than just showing the total of
> > new
> > items billed?
> 
> Turn on "Show Payments" in the report options?
> 
I'm generating invoices via "Business>Customer>New Invoice" and then I
add billable items and post the invoice. Then I click "Print Invoice"
but it just shows the total of the new billable items without applying
any existing credit to the balance. I would like the printed invoice to
just show the balance on the customer account, rather than just the
total of newly-billed items. 


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Re: [GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

On Thu, June 2, 2022 11:05 am, David Burleigh via gnucash-user wrote:
> How can I print an invoice that just shows the balance due after an
> existing credit is applied, rather than just showing the total of new
> items billed?

Turn on "Show Payments" in the report options?

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[GNC] Invoice showing balance due

[David Burleigh via gnucash-user]

How can I print an invoice that just shows the balance due after an
existing credit is applied, rather than just showing the total of new
items billed?
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Re: [GNC] Strange incorrect due date calculated on a duplicated bill

[Geert Janssens]

A quick test would be to post an invoice on such a date in other years, for 
example on the day summer time switched to standard time in 2020 or will change 
in 2022.

Regards,
Geert

Adrien Monteleone  schreef op 1 juni 2022 
21:49:36 CEST:
>It changed on the posting day, 11/7/21, but that occurred in the wee 
>morning and the posting time is 10:59. And I didn't enter the bill in GC 
>until just before posting the thread.
>
>Regards,
>Adrien
>
>On 6/1/22 2:21 PM, Geert Janssens wrote:
>> Was there a switch from summertime to standard time between those two dates? 
>> We have
>> had calculation errors related to such hour changes in the past.
>
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