Re: [GNC] GNUcash is using 538MB
Not sure if this applies to gnucash app, but when I download certain software, I get an option to download standard or debug package. The latter is significantly larger in size. I’m guessing if one is running a debug packaged app, its RAM usage would be high. I haven’t checked if gnucash offers the debug package. If OP is using a debug package, perhaps it’s hogging his RAM. Cheers. > -- > > > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 17:34:55 -0600 > From: Adrien Monteleone > To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] GNUcash is using 538MB > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > If it is indeed RAM, and it gets worse over time, that is a memory leak, > and I'd bet the devs would like to know about it. A bug report would be > in order in such case. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 12/15/22 6:04 AM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote: > > I'm guessing you're talking about RAM, though, as this can frequently > > happen (take a look sometime at how much RAM Chrome can use!). A restart > > usually clears that up. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Seeking report
Thank you... that is what I was looking for... I took the standard report, and limited it to the one account I needed, and it had what I needed, and even some other good features. Thanks. On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM Geoff wrote: > Hi Richard > > Have you looked at the Cash Flow report? It is under the Income & > Expense reports menu. It totals all the debits to the selected > account(s) by contra-account, and (separately) all the credits to the > selected account(s) also by contra-account. > > Hard to explain in words but easy to understand when you run it. > > Regards > > Geoff > = > > On 17/12/2022 12:17 pm, R Losey wrote: > >I find the reports the hardest part of GnuCash to understand, so I'm > >seeking help here... I'm willing to read good, clear documentation, but > >someone may be able to point me in the right direction. > > > >What I'm looking for is a report on a single account with the debits and > >credits totalled separately for a time period (like the present year). > > > >As a concrete example, suppose I have a savings account that gets a > weekly > >credit to pay for auto repair... throughout the year, I debit this > account > >as various car expenses occur... at the end of the year, I'd like to see > >how much I've put in and how much I've spent. > > > >The "Transaction" report is nearly right, except that it doesn't sum the > >debits & credits... it just provides the net debit or credit, depending > >which is greater. > -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] New PC
Michael, Sorry my bad on the BSD Unix as the base for Macs OS My NAS does periodic full backups and daily incrementals so the slowly changing stuff doesn't get backed up all that often. My laptop is also synced to my desktop before and after I take it away from home which provides one of the additional backups and again that is only copying changed files between the two. David On Fri, 2022-12-16 at 22:08 -0500, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > On 12/16/2022 8:23 PM, David Cousens wrote: > > Agree that it would be ideal to have a single user directory but > > unfortunately > > the different OS's have different requirements and conventions and they also > > vary somewhat between various Linux distributions. It would not be too hard > > to > > create a Linux bash script that could pack all the files on one computer > > into a > > zip with a corresponding unpack on another Linux machine, but Linux to > > Windows > > is likely to be more complex with the registry involved and I have no idea > > how > > to do it on a mac but as the Mac OS has its origin in Linux it is likely a > > shell > > script from Linux could be adapted. > > Now I am really confused: > > a) The problem is really just with windows because a 'nix user could be > expected to be able to write a script for backup. The average Windows > user could not. > > b) I specifically chose an example "other application" that you can > download to use with Windows or to use with one of the 'nix's or with > Mac All the Firefox user data is in one directory. > > c) Mac OS not based on Linux --- Based on BSD UNIX > > > > I avoid it totally as I keep complete backups of my home directory on an > > NAS, > > another laptop and an online storage as well as periodically an offsite USB > > . > > That'd be ideal for moving to a new computer since you want EVERYTHING > copied. Or say for the year end back-up. But every periodic backup? > That's be taking a lot of time and space copying data that hasn't > changed in six month, and at least in Windows, can't be doing that while > logged in as that user (I am usually doing other useful things while > some of the longer running copies are running). > > Michael D Novack > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reports and documentstion are blank on Linux
David, I have the docs for 4.11 (i just haven't yet downloaded the 4.12 documentation release) built and installed and I'm currently running 4.12 of the program. When I request Help or the Guide from the Help Menu in GnuCash , yelp comes up with the following message "Document not found: The URI ‘help:gnucash-help/index’ does not point to a valid page.". I will download the 4.12 docs and rebuild them to see if that fixes the problem, which it did. The 4.12 installs to "/usr/local/share/help/C/gnucash-guide" and "/usr/local/share/help/C/gnucash-help" not to the usr/local/share gnome/help " directory and then yelp successfully finds the uris. To build the docs I down loaded from https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.12/gnucash-docs-4.12.tar.gz and extracted the "gnucash-docs-4.12" from the tar.gz file to a directory under my home directory then opened a terminal in that gnucash-docs-4.12 directory then used the following commands mkdir build cd build cmake -GNinja -DWITH_MOBI=On ../ ninja sudo ninja install After that all is working as expected AFAIK you can now only configure the build with cmake (and not make) after V 4.7 of the docs. Both ninja-build and cmake have to be installed to build the docs ("sudo apt install cmake" then "sudo apt install ninja-build" at the terminal prompton Linux Mint) David Cousens On Sat, 2022-12-17 at 09:51 +1000, David H wrote: > Yes I've just been checking out the same thing on Ubuntu 22.04 and my docs are > all there and looking similar to the online docs - they seem to be formatted > slightly differently, like there's no "About This Document" in my local > version so difficult to tell what version I have - see attachments, but seem > to be working ok. I have built Gnucash manually previously on this pc so I'm > not sure where the docs came from :-) > > I have a vague recollection I may have also had to update WebKitGtk for the > docs to work but don't hold me to it :-) > > Refer also to the Gnucash instructions for installing the Flatpak version at > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak. > > The release announcement ( > https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-announce/2022-September/000371.html > ) states that docs aren't released with linux, not sure if that includes > Flatpak versions... > > See below relevant snippets... > > To compile GnuCash from the source code by yourself, you will need at least > Gtk+ 3.24, Guile 2.0, Boost 1.54, WebKitGtk 2.4, GoogleTest 1.7.0, cmake 3.10 > and SWIG 2.0.12. Please consult the README.dependencies file in the sources > for the exact list of dependencies and versions. > GnuCash is also available as a flatpak from Flathub.org. Instructions for > installing and running may be found at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak. > If you want to compile the GnuCash Documentation 4.12 for yourself, the source > code can be downloaded from: > https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/4.12/gnucash-docs-4.12.tar.gz > https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/4.12/gnucash-docs-4.12.tar.gz > > The documentation is included in the MacOS and Windows application bundles. > Hope this helps, > > Regards David H. > > > On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 at 08:41, Tommy Trussell wrote: > > Oh and I should have said, I just tried all of the items on the Help menu, > > and they seem to work fine. GnuCash 4.12+ flatpak on Ubuntu 22.04 > > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 4:38 PM Tommy Trussell > > wrote: > > > > > I am running GnuCash installed via Flatpak on Ubuntu 22.04, and as far as > > > I can tell, I did not have to install the Help files separately. I just > > > looked and do not see a separate listing for help when I run $ flatpak > > list > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 4:27 PM David Cousens > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Daved > > >> > > >> The documentation has to be downloaded and installed separately on Linux. > > >> It is > > >> not packaged with the program in most cases. > > >> https://www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml. > > >> I think running nin > > >> > > >> Even when installed yelp does not seem to find the location from within > > >> the > > >> GnuCash program. It appears to be looking for a HTML index file and not > > >> the xml > > >> format that yelp uses by default. In a normal install of the > > >> documnetation it is > > >> installed to "/usr/local/share/gnome/help/gnucash-guide" and > > >> "/usr/local/share/gnome/help/gnucash-help". If I start yelp in a terminal > > >> and > > >> point it to these location the guide and help manual open in yelp, but > > >> not when > > >> yelp is opened from within GnuCash itself (GnuCash 4.12 on Linux Mint > > >> 22). It is > > >> likely that an environment variable has not been correctly setup . > > >> > > >> I avoid this totally by accessing the online html versions of the help > > >> manual > > >> and the guide from > > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-help/help.html and > > >>
Re: [GNC] New PC
On 12/16/2022 8:23 PM, David Cousens wrote: Agree that it would be ideal to have a single user directory but unfortunately the different OS's have different requirements and conventions and they also vary somewhat between various Linux distributions. It would not be too hard to create a Linux bash script that could pack all the files on one computer into a zip with a corresponding unpack on another Linux machine, but Linux to Windows is likely to be more complex with the registry involved and I have no idea how to do it on a mac but as the Mac OS has its origin in Linux it is likely a shell script from Linux could be adapted. Now I am really confused: a) The problem is really just with windows because a 'nix user could be expected to be able to write a script for backup. The average Windows user could not. b) I specifically chose an example "other application" that you can download to use with Windows or to use with one of the 'nix's or with Mac All the Firefox user data is in one directory. c) Mac OS not based on Linux --- Based on BSD UNIX I avoid it totally as I keep complete backups of my home directory on an NAS, another laptop and an online storage as well as periodically an offsite USB . That'd be ideal for moving to a new computer since you want EVERYTHING copied. Or say for the year end back-up. But every periodic backup? That's be taking a lot of time and space copying data that hasn't changed in six month, and at least in Windows, can't be doing that while logged in as that user (I am usually doing other useful things while some of the longer running copies are running). Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Seeking report
Hi Richard Have you looked at the Cash Flow report? It is under the Income & Expense reports menu. It totals all the debits to the selected account(s) by contra-account, and (separately) all the credits to the selected account(s) also by contra-account. Hard to explain in words but easy to understand when you run it. Regards Geoff = On 17/12/2022 12:17 pm, R Losey wrote: >I find the reports the hardest part of GnuCash to understand, so I'm >seeking help here... I'm willing to read good, clear documentation, but >someone may be able to point me in the right direction. > >What I'm looking for is a report on a single account with the debits and >credits totalled separately for a time period (like the present year). > >As a concrete example, suppose I have a savings account that gets a weekly >credit to pay for auto repair... throughout the year, I debit this account >as various car expenses occur... at the end of the year, I'd like to see >how much I've put in and how much I've spent. > >The "Transaction" report is nearly right, except that it doesn't sum the >debits & credits... it just provides the net debit or credit, depending >which is greater. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] New PC
Agree that it would be ideal to have a single user directory but unfortunately the different OS's have different requirements and conventions and they also vary somewhat between various Linux distributions. It would not be too hard to create a Linux bash script that could pack all the files on one computer into a zip with a corresponding unpack on another Linux machine, but Linux to Windows is likely to be more complex with the registry involved and I have no idea how to do it on a mac but as the Mac OS has its origin in Linux it is likely a shell script from Linux could be adapted. A one off is no problem, but maintaining it as the various OS's change their requirements creates an ongoing task. I avoid it totally as I keep complete backups of my home directory on an NAS, another laptop and an online storage as well as periodically an offsite USB . David On Fri, 2022-12-16 at 17:37 -0500, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > On 12/16/2022 3:00 PM, David Cousens wrote: > > The user preference data is stored in the locations defined as > > USER_CONFIG_HOME > > in the following wiki page. The page also details all of the places that > > data > > about GnuCash configuration and what type of data is stored in those > > specific > > locations is stored on the 3 operating systems. > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations > > There are a set of links to diagrammatic forms of this information on the 3 > > operating systems about a third of the way down the page. It is possible > > that > > more informaton has been added since I constructed those a couple of years > > ago > > as they resulted from my efforts to get the information in that page into a > > more > > easily digestible form. > > The location of the GnuCash data file containing the sets of books can be > > anywhere the user chooses in their home directoty/folder. > > Very useful if you want to know which specific one does what. > > But the "picture" wanted for backing up (or moving to a different > machine) is different *IF* there exists one or two directories that > contain all of them. > > To give an example from another (unrelated) application: Take the > browser FireFox. In THIS case(in Windows) all will be within a directory > named Mozilla in the appdata directory. So if you were moving to a new > computer you could just replace that directory in the new computer > (created when you installed/opened first time FireFox) with the one form > your old computer. Or for your back-ups, that is the directory you want > to copy. So .. > > Is there one directory (or a small set of directories) that contain all > that is needed for gnucash? And nothing else. THAT is the "view" wanted > for both back-up and moving to another computer. And if there is not a > small subset, if they are "scattered", then that perhaps should be fixed. > > Michael D Novack > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Seeking report
I find the reports the hardest part of GnuCash to understand, so I'm seeking help here... I'm willing to read good, clear documentation, but someone may be able to point me in the right direction. What I'm looking for is a report on a single account with the debits and credits totalled separately for a time period (like the present year). As a concrete example, suppose I have a savings account that gets a weekly credit to pay for auto repair... throughout the year, I debit this account as various car expenses occur... at the end of the year, I'd like to see how much I've put in and how much I've spent. The "Transaction" report is nearly right, except that it doesn't sum the debits & credits... it just provides the net debit or credit, depending which is greater. -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reports and documentstion are blank on Linux
My docs are also blank; I was told that they were installed to a different place than where they were expected to be... but I don't think anyone told me... I was hoping to create a symbolic link for the correct path. It would be nice to get it working with docs on my Linux box, but I use online when I need it. I didn't use flatpack... when I did a fresh install, it used 4.08, which is pretty close, I think. On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 3:01 PM Dr. David Kirkby < drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote: > I have a Dell 7920 tower workstation with 2 x 26-core CPUs and 384 GB RAM. > Ubuntu 20.04 and GnuCash 4.12 are installed. > > I used the 'flatpack' installation method, > > https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/07/install-gnucash-4-0-ubuntu-20-04-18-04/ > which gets the latest version, rather than the older official Ubuntu > version. > > The problem is, many of the windows that I know display things on Windows > laptop with GnuCash, are just blank on Linux. Neither the Help -> Tutorial > and Concepts Guide or Help -> Contents show anything whatsoever - see > attachment. Customer reports give a similar screen. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Debug information to sort out Finance::Quote issue on macOS Ventura
Thanks; my old Intel iMac would not upgrade; I assumed because it was Intel, but I think it was just old (pre-Retina). Thanks for the info. On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:55 PM Vincent Lucarelli < vincent.lucare...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I’m running GnuCash on a Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2019 with an 3.7 GHz 6-Core > Intel Core i5 and Ventura 13.0.1. I have an M1 MacBook, but don’t run > GnuCash there. > > I didn’t follow the development of Ventura closely, so I don’t know when > Apple changed course, but there are a few Intel models still supported ( > https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213264). > > Best, > > Vince > > On Dec 16, 2022, at 2:18 PM, R Losey wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that Ventura does not work on Intel Macs... I suspect that > Vincent has an M1 or M2 Mac. > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:32 AM john wrote: > >> > On Dec 15, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Vincent Lucarelli < >> vincent.lucare...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I upgraded to macOS Ventura and am having trouble getting >> Finance::Quote to work. >> > >> > gnc-fq-dump is working in the terminal (see shell output below), but in >> GnuCash I get the error “There was a system error while retrieving the >> price quotes.” >> > >> > Is there some way to get debugging output from the GnuCash app so I can >> see what call is being made and what error is occurring? >> >> If you're trying to use iexcloud in GnuCash and you have an Intel mac >> then the problem is most likely that iexcloud key. GnuCash doesn't read the >> environment set in the shell's .*profile so you'll have to add it as an >> environment variable to the environment file, see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#File_environment.local >> . >> >> There's another problem with newer F::Q modules requiring an api key: >> Many of them don't have an associated environment variable and expect the >> api_key to be passed as a parameter and Finance::Quote doesn't expose any >> way to discover whether a module requires a key making it rather difficult >> for GnuCash to support them. >> >> Regards, >> John Ralls >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > -- > _ > Richard Losey > rlo...@gmail.com > Micah 6:8 > > > -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reports and documentstion are blank on Linux
Oh and I should have said, I just tried all of the items on the Help menu, and they seem to work fine. GnuCash 4.12+ flatpak on Ubuntu 22.04 On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 4:38 PM Tommy Trussell wrote: > I am running GnuCash installed via Flatpak on Ubuntu 22.04, and as far as > I can tell, I did not have to install the Help files separately. I just > looked and do not see a separate listing for help when I run $ flatpak list > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 4:27 PM David Cousens > wrote: > >> Daved >> >> The documentation has to be downloaded and installed separately on Linux. >> It is >> not packaged with the program in most cases. >> https://www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml. >> I think running nin >> >> Even when installed yelp does not seem to find the location from within >> the >> GnuCash program. It appears to be looking for a HTML index file and not >> the xml >> format that yelp uses by default. In a normal install of the >> documnetation it is >> installed to "/usr/local/share/gnome/help/gnucash-guide" and >> "/usr/local/share/gnome/help/gnucash-help". If I start yelp in a terminal >> and >> point it to these location the guide and help manual open in yelp, but >> not when >> yelp is opened from within GnuCash itself (GnuCash 4.12 on Linux Mint >> 22). It is >> likely that an environment variable has not been correctly setup . >> >> I avoid this totally by accessing the online html versions of the help >> manual >> and the guide from >> https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-help/help.html and >> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/index.html in a browser >> when I >> need to. >> >> David Cousens >> >> On Fri, 2022-12-16 at 21:00 +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >> > I have a Dell 7920 tower workstation with 2 x 26-core CPUs and 384 GB >> RAM. >> > Ubuntu 20.04 and GnuCash 4.12 are installed. >> > >> > I used the 'flatpack' installation method, >> > >> https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/07/install-gnucash-4-0-ubuntu-20-04-18-04/ >> > which gets the latest version, rather than the older official Ubuntu >> > version. >> > >> > The problem is, many of the windows that I know display things on >> Windows >> > laptop with GnuCash, are just blank on Linux. Neither the Help -> >> Tutorial >> > and Concepts Guide or Help -> Contents show anything whatsoever - see >> > attachment. Customer reports give a similar screen. >> > ___ >> > gnucash-user mailing list >> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> > - >> > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reports and documentstion are blank on Linux
I am running GnuCash installed via Flatpak on Ubuntu 22.04, and as far as I can tell, I did not have to install the Help files separately. I just looked and do not see a separate listing for help when I run $ flatpak list On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 4:27 PM David Cousens wrote: > Daved > > The documentation has to be downloaded and installed separately on Linux. > It is > not packaged with the program in most cases. > https://www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml. > I think running nin > > Even when installed yelp does not seem to find the location from within the > GnuCash program. It appears to be looking for a HTML index file and not > the xml > format that yelp uses by default. In a normal install of the documnetation > it is > installed to "/usr/local/share/gnome/help/gnucash-guide" and > "/usr/local/share/gnome/help/gnucash-help". If I start yelp in a terminal > and > point it to these location the guide and help manual open in yelp, but not > when > yelp is opened from within GnuCash itself (GnuCash 4.12 on Linux Mint 22). > It is > likely that an environment variable has not been correctly setup . > > I avoid this totally by accessing the online html versions of the help > manual > and the guide from https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-help/help.html > and > https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/index.html in a browser > when I > need to. > > David Cousens > > On Fri, 2022-12-16 at 21:00 +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > I have a Dell 7920 tower workstation with 2 x 26-core CPUs and 384 GB > RAM. > > Ubuntu 20.04 and GnuCash 4.12 are installed. > > > > I used the 'flatpack' installation method, > > > https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/07/install-gnucash-4-0-ubuntu-20-04-18-04/ > > which gets the latest version, rather than the older official Ubuntu > > version. > > > > The problem is, many of the windows that I know display things on Windows > > laptop with GnuCash, are just blank on Linux. Neither the Help -> > Tutorial > > and Concepts Guide or Help -> Contents show anything whatsoever - see > > attachment. Customer reports give a similar screen. > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] New PC
On 12/16/2022 3:00 PM, David Cousens wrote: The user preference data is stored in the locations defined as USER_CONFIG_HOME in the following wiki page. The page also details all of the places that data about GnuCash configuration and what type of data is stored in those specific locations is stored on the 3 operating systems. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations There are a set of links to diagrammatic forms of this information on the 3 operating systems about a third of the way down the page. It is possible that more informaton has been added since I constructed those a couple of years ago as they resulted from my efforts to get the information in that page into a more easily digestible form. The location of the GnuCash data file containing the sets of books can be anywhere the user chooses in their home directoty/folder. Very useful if you want to know which specific one does what. But the "picture" wanted for backing up (or moving to a different machine) is different *IF* there exists one or two directories that contain all of them. To give an example from another (unrelated) application: Take the browser FireFox. In THIS case(in Windows) all will be within a directory named Mozilla in the appdata directory. So if you were moving to a new computer you could just replace that directory in the new computer (created when you installed/opened first time FireFox) with the one form your old computer. Or for your back-ups, that is the directory you want to copy. So .. Is there one directory (or a small set of directories) that contain all that is needed for gnucash? And nothing else. THAT is the "view" wanted for both back-up and moving to another computer. And if there is not a small subset, if they are "scattered", then that perhaps should be fixed. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reports and documentstion are blank on Linux
Daved The documentation has to be downloaded and installed separately on Linux. It is not packaged with the program in most cases. https://www.gnucash.org/docs.phtml. I think running nin Even when installed yelp does not seem to find the location from within the GnuCash program. It appears to be looking for a HTML index file and not the xml format that yelp uses by default. In a normal install of the documnetation it is installed to "/usr/local/share/gnome/help/gnucash-guide" and "/usr/local/share/gnome/help/gnucash-help". If I start yelp in a terminal and point it to these location the guide and help manual open in yelp, but not when yelp is opened from within GnuCash itself (GnuCash 4.12 on Linux Mint 22). It is likely that an environment variable has not been correctly setup . I avoid this totally by accessing the online html versions of the help manual and the guide from https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-help/help.html and https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/index.html in a browser when I need to. David Cousens On Fri, 2022-12-16 at 21:00 +, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I have a Dell 7920 tower workstation with 2 x 26-core CPUs and 384 GB RAM. > Ubuntu 20.04 and GnuCash 4.12 are installed. > > I used the 'flatpack' installation method, > https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/07/install-gnucash-4-0-ubuntu-20-04-18-04/ > which gets the latest version, rather than the older official Ubuntu > version. > > The problem is, many of the windows that I know display things on Windows > laptop with GnuCash, are just blank on Linux. Neither the Help -> Tutorial > and Concepts Guide or Help -> Contents show anything whatsoever - see > attachment. Customer reports give a similar screen. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Debug information to sort out Finance::Quote issue on macOS Ventura
Vince, Dtruss probably tells you a lot of stuff you don't need and not much that you do. Did you try `gnucash --log gnc.scm=debug --logto=stderr`? Yes, GnuCash 5 will continue to use F::Q. Geert and I rewrote the original Scheme bridge in C++ and greatly improved the error capture and reporting in the process. We're still using the legacy methods so I guess some more work is in order. In order for GnuCash to support passing api keys as source module parameters we need a Quote.pm function to enumerate the source modules that need an API key. The alternative of hard-coding the modules in GnuCash is too brittle because the module names sometimes change. That brittleness is evident in the Security Editor where we still list a bunch of modules that no longer exist and there are a bunch of new modules at the bottom. Regards, John Ralls > On 16. Dec 2022, at 11:52, Vincent Lucarelli > wrote: > > Thanks John, I did in fact forget to replace the environment.local file after > a fresh GnuCash install, but still no luck. > > I’m trying to sort through dtruss output, but it is a bit difficult to sort > out what is going wrong. Happy to receive additional suggestions. > > > For the API keys, I wrote several of the new F::Q modules and choose not to > support environment variables because it seemed like more services were going > to require API keys and the number of environment variables would grow. So > the only mechanism right now is to set the API key when instantiating an F::Q > object. > > I saw that you commented one F::Q/issue/200 and indicated a new major release > of GnuCash is in the works. Is F::Q going to continue to be the source for > quotes in that version? Is so, I think there are at least two options for > dealing with API keys - F::Q adds environment variables for every module that > needs one and then GnuCash either continues to use something like the > environment file or adds a preference where users can register environment > variables, or, GnuCash adds a preference for registering API keys and those > get routed to wherever the F::Q instance is created. > > The environment variables seem to cause users headaches to make sure they are > set properly and survive GnuCash upgrades, but a separate GnuCash preference > set of key/values for F::Q API keys is a lot more work for the GnuCash > developers. I haven’t been active on F::Q development, but if there are > changes that will help with the next GnuCash release, I’ll find time to help. > > Best, > > Vince > > > > > >> On Dec 16, 2022, at 12:31 PM, john wrote: >> >>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Vincent Lucarelli >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I upgraded to macOS Ventura and am having trouble getting Finance::Quote to >>> work. >>> >>> gnc-fq-dump is working in the terminal (see shell output below), but in >>> GnuCash I get the error “There was a system error while retrieving the >>> price quotes.” >>> >>> Is there some way to get debugging output from the GnuCash app so I can see >>> what call is being made and what error is occurring? >> >> If you're trying to use iexcloud in GnuCash and you have an Intel mac then >> the problem is most likely that iexcloud key. GnuCash doesn't read the >> environment set in the shell's .*profile so you'll have to add it as an >> environment variable to the environment file, see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#File_environment.local. >> >> There's another problem with newer F::Q modules requiring an api key: Many >> of them don't have an associated environment variable and expect the api_key >> to be passed as a parameter and Finance::Quote doesn't expose any way to >> discover whether a module requires a key making it rather difficult for >> GnuCash to support them. >> >> Regards, >> John Ralls > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Reports and documentstion are blank on Linux
I have a Dell 7920 tower workstation with 2 x 26-core CPUs and 384 GB RAM. Ubuntu 20.04 and GnuCash 4.12 are installed. I used the 'flatpack' installation method, https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/07/install-gnucash-4-0-ubuntu-20-04-18-04/ which gets the latest version, rather than the older official Ubuntu version. The problem is, many of the windows that I know display things on Windows laptop with GnuCash, are just blank on Linux. Neither the Help -> Tutorial and Concepts Guide or Help -> Contents show anything whatsoever - see attachment. Customer reports give a similar screen. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] New PC
The user preference data is stored in the locations defined as USER_CONFIG_HOME in the following wiki page. The page also details all of the places that data about GnuCash configuration and what type of data is stored in those specific locations is stored on the 3 operating systems. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations There are a set of links to diagrammatic forms of this information on the 3 operating systems about a third of the way down the page. It is possible that more informaton has been added since I constructed those a couple of years ago as they resulted from my efforts to get the information in that page into a more easily digestible form. The location of the GnuCash data file containing the sets of books can be anywhere the user chooses in their home directoty/folder. David Cousens On Fri, 2022-12-16 at 13:06 -0600, R Losey wrote: > Agreed... I believe the data is somewhere in the documentation, but I > hadn't really realized that until I did the new installations. > > > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael or Penny Novack < > stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > On 12/14/2022 6:57 PM, R Losey wrote: > > > The data file (files) are the key thing. I recently updated both my iMac > > > (new machine) and my Linux box (disk wipe and re-install). The data > > files I > > > used are stored on my home NAS, so that all computers can see the file. > > > > > > I did notice that I lost the reports, but since I didn't have many of > > them, > > > I merely re-created them. > > > > > > In addition, the register settings and the like were apparently saved > > > locally, but again, it wasn't that hard for me to re-set some of the > > things. > > > > > > Maybe next time, I'll pay attention to where those are so that > > > everything can be restored. > > > > > It would perhaps be a good idea to explain WHERE that other user data is > > stored so that users so gnucash can include that in their gnucash > > back-ups (and so in moves to a different computer). I don't mean just on > > the list, but also in the documentation under back-up instructions. I > > realize that the location might be different for different OS's. > > > > Michael D Novack > > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Debug information to sort out Finance::Quote issue on macOS Ventura
Ventura runs on lots of Intel (pre M1/M2) Macs. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213264 Will On Dec 16, 2022, at 13:18, R Losey wrote: I'm pretty sure that Ventura does not work on Intel Macs... I suspect that Vincent has an M1 or M2 Mac. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Trouble downloading OFX from Canadian Tire Bank
Good morning, You may be crashing due to a recently fixed bug: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798629 Can you download (or build) a more recent gnucash? You would want a gnucash built after Oct 7 2022. -- Glenn S. On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 9:34 AM R. Victor Klassen wrote: > > I just downloaded the monthly credit card statement as “Microsoft money” > format which gave me a file with suffix ofx and header content that appears > to be OFX. Importing it causes a prompt and consistent crash. I tried > trimming out all transactions but one and it still crashes. I’m assuming > there is something in the header causing the problem. > > I tried switching to Quicken and got a qfx file with the identical header > which I find suspicious. Attempting to open it was as fruitful as before. > > I don’t know whether it’s Gnucash or the file. If the file I could likely > write a preprocessor to fix it. Is there documentation somewhere as to what > is expected in the file? > > > Gnucash 4.12 build 4.12+ (2022-09-24) > MaxOS Ventura on a 2022 Mac mini with an M1 chip > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Debug information to sort out Finance::Quote issue on macOS Ventura
I'm pretty sure that Ventura does not work on Intel Macs... I suspect that Vincent has an M1 or M2 Mac. On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:32 AM john wrote: > > On Dec 15, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Vincent Lucarelli < > vincent.lucare...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I upgraded to macOS Ventura and am having trouble getting Finance::Quote > to work. > > > > gnc-fq-dump is working in the terminal (see shell output below), but in > GnuCash I get the error “There was a system error while retrieving the > price quotes.” > > > > Is there some way to get debugging output from the GnuCash app so I can > see what call is being made and what error is occurring? > > If you're trying to use iexcloud in GnuCash and you have an Intel mac then > the problem is most likely that iexcloud key. GnuCash doesn't read the > environment set in the shell's .*profile so you'll have to add it as an > environment variable to the environment file, see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#File_environment.local > . > > There's another problem with newer F::Q modules requiring an api key: Many > of them don't have an associated environment variable and expect the > api_key to be passed as a parameter and Finance::Quote doesn't expose any > way to discover whether a module requires a key making it rather difficult > for GnuCash to support them. > > Regards, > John Ralls > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] per diem expenses
I think when I received per diem, I just recorded it as non-taxable income, and paid for the food as expenses. I suppose if you wanted to track it better, you could create an account (category) that would be credited for the pier diem payments and debited as you spend it on food, but I didn't need that level of detail. On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 1:30 PM Alan W Jackson wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am new to GNUCASH and am working on my chart of accounts and journals > I am a owner op trucker and work with a single customer for now. > I use the customers credit card for all business expenses such as gas, > tolls, trailer and truck expenses > Every week I receiver a payment document that details gross revenue, > expenses down to net bank deposit > My question is how to record the $64/$69 food per day per diem. > The concept is to lower taxable income by the per diem amount, however it > does not increase salary > So is the debit to per diem expense, the credit to ?? > What is GNUCASH recommended approach? > Is this a tax return issue only? > > > Alan W Jackson > 706-816-2452 > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] New PC
Agreed... I believe the data is somewhere in the documentation, but I hadn't really realized that until I did the new installations. On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 9:26 AM Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 12/14/2022 6:57 PM, R Losey wrote: > > The data file (files) are the key thing. I recently updated both my iMac > > (new machine) and my Linux box (disk wipe and re-install). The data > files I > > used are stored on my home NAS, so that all computers can see the file. > > > > I did notice that I lost the reports, but since I didn't have many of > them, > > I merely re-created them. > > > > In addition, the register settings and the like were apparently saved > > locally, but again, it wasn't that hard for me to re-set some of the > things. > > > > Maybe next time, I'll pay attention to where those are so that > > everything can be restored. > > > It would perhaps be a good idea to explain WHERE that other user data is > stored so that users so gnucash can include that in their gnucash > back-ups (and so in moves to a different computer). I don't mean just on > the list, but also in the documentation under back-up instructions. I > realize that the location might be different for different OS's. > > Michael D Novack > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Reconciling PayPal
Even though it is a manual step, you should be able to hide the columns you don't care about... at least the balance won't be so far away. On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 3:43 AM Dr. David Kirkby < drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 07:36, Liz wrote: > > > I followed those instructions. To see the balance you can only have csv > > export. > > https://imgur.com/jPP5Fol.png > > is the screenshot with the sellers names redacted > > > > Liz > > > Liz, > Your balance is shown in column J, which is the 10th. My balance is shown > in the 34th column, which is *much* easier to miss. I had never noticed it > before, as it’s so far over, past many far less important things. As > someone else remarked, what one sees in PayPal does change with what > country you are in. > > > -- _ Richard Losey rlo...@gmail.com Micah 6:8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Trouble downloading OFX from Canadian Tire Bank
I recently helped somebody with an ofx file missing the and tags. Both are required for gnuCash to remember how to match the ofx to an account in your books. It remembers the first time then uses and to redo the match on following imports. Although in that case I think the import process would simply abort, I don't think it crashed. If you don't see these tags, you can put whatever you want for both tags as long as it is unique to files for that account in your books Here is the sanitized example ofx file that was used when we discussed that issue. The ACCTID and TYPE are part of the group which could also be missing. In testing in that case it was discovered that the tag that is in the same group wasn't really needed (but it won't hurt if it's there of course). If your file does in fact have a correct BANKACCTFROM section and tags, then you might need to compare what other differences exist and experiment to see if they are the source of the problem. OFXHEADER:100 DATA:OFXSGML VERSION:102 SECURITY:NON ENCODING:USASCII CHARSET:1252 COMPRESSION:NONE OLDFILEUID:NONE NEWFILEUID:NONE 0 INFO 20220925094411 ENG 1 0 INFO AUD 123456789 123456789012 CHECKING DEBIT 2022092200 -999.96 808288 Transfer to censored - Receipt censored CREDIT 2022092200 999.99 788899 censored - Internal Transfer - Receipt censored On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 9:34 AM R. Victor Klassen wrote: > I just downloaded the monthly credit card statement as “Microsoft money” > format which gave me a file with suffix ofx and header content that appears > to be OFX. Importing it causes a prompt and consistent crash. I tried > trimming out all transactions but one and it still crashes. I’m assuming > there is something in the header causing the problem. > > I tried switching to Quicken and got a qfx file with the identical header > which I find suspicious. Attempting to open it was as fruitful as before. > > I don’t know whether it’s Gnucash or the file. If the file I could likely > write a preprocessor to fix it. Is there documentation somewhere as to > what is expected in the file? > > > Gnucash 4.12 build 4.12+ (2022-09-24) > MaxOS Ventura on a 2022 Mac mini with an M1 chip > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Trouble downloading OFX from Canadian Tire Bank
I just downloaded the monthly credit card statement as “Microsoft money” format which gave me a file with suffix ofx and header content that appears to be OFX. Importing it causes a prompt and consistent crash. I tried trimming out all transactions but one and it still crashes. I’m assuming there is something in the header causing the problem. I tried switching to Quicken and got a qfx file with the identical header which I find suspicious. Attempting to open it was as fruitful as before. I don’t know whether it’s Gnucash or the file. If the file I could likely write a preprocessor to fix it. Is there documentation somewhere as to what is expected in the file? Gnucash 4.12 build 4.12+ (2022-09-24) MaxOS Ventura on a 2022 Mac mini with an M1 chip Sent from my iPhone ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Debug information to sort out Finance::Quote issue on macOS Ventura
> On Dec 15, 2022, at 4:37 PM, Vincent Lucarelli > wrote: > > Hi, > > I upgraded to macOS Ventura and am having trouble getting Finance::Quote to > work. > > gnc-fq-dump is working in the terminal (see shell output below), but in > GnuCash I get the error “There was a system error while retrieving the price > quotes.” > > Is there some way to get debugging output from the GnuCash app so I can see > what call is being made and what error is occurring? If you're trying to use iexcloud in GnuCash and you have an Intel mac then the problem is most likely that iexcloud key. GnuCash doesn't read the environment set in the shell's .*profile so you'll have to add it as an environment variable to the environment file, see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#File_environment.local. There's another problem with newer F::Q modules requiring an api key: Many of them don't have an associated environment variable and expect the api_key to be passed as a parameter and Finance::Quote doesn't expose any way to discover whether a module requires a key making it rather difficult for GnuCash to support them. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] per diem expenses
On 12/16/2022 7:40 AM, Murugan Muruganandam wrote: Alan How you treat perdiem is a tax question. For registering purposes, if perdiem is also part of your monthly transfer, then you debit bank and credit income:Perdiem. many states allow without furnishing bills if you are below fed thrushold, so your accountant can show this account as excluded from tax calculation. if in case you need to show bills , suggest you register your food bills in a separate expense account so you can consider the same for tax purposes I really think the issue is much more complicated than this. It is possible that NOT counted as income. If that seems strange, consider that the employee or contractor is being forced to eat out (more expensive) rather than eat at home, bring meals from home, etc. The fact that the "employer" is JUST doing food by "per diem" and not also for lodging suggests to me that it is the "self employed/independent contractor" rules being followed << again taking into account that this is NOT "my line of country", employees allowed to get per diem for housing but not self employed, for whom that would be income >> There are expense reporting requirements (to the "employer") but again I think different whether receipts need to be turned in depends on "employee" vs "contractor" (in other words how reported might be different) Check with an accountant who knows about THIS specialized aspect of the tax codes. NOW --- the question of "accounting for in gnucash if it turns out NOT counting as income and expense. Might want to split off as a separate income category and expense category so can see totals both without and including. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Inconsistencies on transfer tool between Windoze and Linux
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 15:20, Murugan Muruganandam < m.muruganan...@hotmail.com> wrote: > please find the screenshot > > edit->preference->accounts->Labels > Thank you. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Inconsistencies on transfer tool between Windoze and Linux
please find the screenshot edit->preference->accounts->Labels Saludos Cordiales Murugan From: Dr. David Kirkby Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 12:16 PM To: Murugan Muruganandam Cc: GNU Cash User Subject: Re: [GNC] Inconsistencies on transfer tool between Windoze and Linux On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 14:52, Murugan Muruganandam mailto:m.muruganan...@hotmail.com>> wrote: David in Linux you have not selected Labels-> use formal accounting labels Saludos Cordiales Murugan Where does one select that? I don't see any Labels option in preferences or elsewhere. Dave ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Inconsistencies on transfer tool between Windoze and Linux
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 14:52, Murugan Muruganandam < m.muruganan...@hotmail.com> wrote: > David > > in Linux you have not selected Labels-> use formal accounting labels > > > Saludos Cordiales > > > Murugan > Where does one select that? I don't see any Labels option in preferences or elsewhere. Dave ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Inconsistencies on transfer tool between Windoze and Linux
David in Linux you have not selected Labels-> use formal accounting labels Saludos Cordiales Murugan From: gnucash-user on behalf of Dr. David Kirkby Sent: Friday, December 16, 2022 11:44 AM To: GNU Cash User Subject: [GNC] Inconsistencies on transfer tool between Windoze and Linux I gave GnuCash 4.12 installed both on a Windoze laptop and a linux workstation. I notice that the transfer window is named different on each platform: Windows: Debit Account and Credit Account Linux: Transfer From and Transfer To. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Trial Balance Report Error
When i run Trial Balance Report, i am encountering the following error. Can you please help what is causing this error, all other reports like balance sheet, income, expense are working fine. Report error An error occurred while running the report. 10 (apply-smob/1 #) In c-interface.scm: 35:4 9 (gnc:call-with-error-handling _ _) In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 829:9 8 (catch _ _ # …) In c-interface.scm: 39:40 7 (_) In report-core.scm: 752:25 6 (gnc:report-render-html #< type: "216cd0cf6931…> …) In standard/trial-balance.scm: 549:12 5 (trial-balance-renderer _) In html-acct-table.scm: 545:4 4 (gnc:make-html-acct-table/env/accts _ _) 818:4 3 (gnc:html-acct-table-add-accounts! #<…> …) 726:18 2 (traverse-accounts! _ 0 0 #) In commodity-utilities.scm: 905:8 1 (gnc:sum-collector-commodity # …) In unknown file: 0 (+ 135226 190312 321500 241929 18593117 3873095 334397 0 …) In procedure +: Wrong type: #f Saludos Cordiales Murugan ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] per diem expenses
Alan How you treat perdiem is a tax question. For registering purposes, if perdiem is also part of your monthly transfer, then you debit bank and credit income:Perdiem. many states allow without furnishing bills if you are below fed thrushold, so your accountant can show this account as excluded from tax calculation. if in case you need to show bills , suggest you register your food bills in a separate expense account so you can consider the same for tax purposes Saludos Cordiales Murugan From: gnucash-user on behalf of Alan W Jackson Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 4:28 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: [GNC] per diem expenses Hi everyone, I am new to GNUCASH and am working on my chart of accounts and journals I am a owner op trucker and work with a single customer for now. I use the customers credit card for all business expenses such as gas, tolls, trailer and truck expenses Every week I receiver a payment document that details gross revenue, expenses down to net bank deposit My question is how to record the $64/$69 food per day per diem. The concept is to lower taxable income by the per diem amount, however it does not increase salary So is the debit to per diem expense, the credit to ?? What is GNUCASH recommended approach? Is this a tax return issue only? Alan W Jackson 706-816-2452 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Debug information to sort out Finance::Quote issue on macOS Ventura
Hi, I upgraded to macOS Ventura and am having trouble getting Finance::Quote to work. gnc-fq-dump is working in the terminal (see shell output below), but in GnuCash I get the error “There was a system error while retrieving the price quotes.” Is there some way to get debugging output from the GnuCash app so I can see what call is being made and what error is occurring? Thanks, Vince Terminal Transcript % which perl /usr/bin/perl % pwd /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin % IEXCLOUD_API_KEY=pk_redacted... DEBUG=1 ./gnc-fq-dump -v iexcloud AAPL ### AlphaVantage->new args : {} ### store_date symbol: 'AAPL' ### store_date pieces: { ### isodate => '2022-12-15' ###} isodate 2022-12-15 -> Day 15, Month 12, Year 2022 ### format: 1 Final Year-Month-Day -> 2022-12-15 ### format: 1 Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses: symbol: AAPL <=== required date: 12/15/2022 <=== recommended currency: USD <=== required last: 136.61 <=\ nav: <=== one of these price: <=/ timezone: <=== optional All fields returned by Finance::Quote for stock AAPL stock field value - - - AAPL currency: USD AAPL currency_set_by_fq: 1 AAPL date: 12/15/2022 AAPL isodate: 2022-12-15 AAPL last: 136.61 AAPL method: iexcloud AAPL success: 1 AAPL symbol: AAPL ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.