Re: [GNC] Changes to transaction entry, and quirks

[David G. Pickett via gnucash-user]

I miss the old entry of transaction account, as it had fewer keystrokes/clicks 
to get the average desired entry.

I have it set to the leaf value mode, which itself is a mixed deal since 
sometimes I am not sure what the full path is, but it fits better (takes less 
column width).
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Re: [GNC] How do I reply to a topic?

[Ken Farley]

I have my account settings on the mail list to not send me any of the 
topics directly. Instead, I prefer to browse through the discussions via 
the following link:


https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/

When I see a discussion I want to reply to, I click on the e-mail 
address of the message I'm currently viewing, and am automatically taken 
to my e-mail program with the To: field already filled in with 
"gnucash-user@gnucash.org", subject Re: the topic I was looking at,, and 
I just have to type my message (like this one) and send.


I didn't like getting all the e-mails spewed into my mailbox - probably 
less than 5% of them were something I would be interested in, due to my 
particular use of the software, etc. Plus if I don't check my mail 
diligently it would be packed with so much stuff...

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Re: [GNC] Downloading GnuCash onto a Mac Pro

[Jim DeLaHunt]

Hello, Edwin:

Welcome to GnuCash, and welcome to the Mac! I have been using GnuCash on 
Mac for many years. It works well.


Using GnuCash on Mac has no connection with Linux. The GnuCash project 
makes a Mac version of the GnuCash app. That is what you should use.


First, download the right thing. On the front page of the GnuCash 
website, , there is a link, 'Apple macOS ≥ 
10.13—"High Sierra"'. Click on that link. The browser offers to download 
a file named "Gnucash-Intel-5.1-1.dmg" or similar (the details may 
differ depending on the current GnuCash version).


Second, know where to find the thing you downloaded. This is a matter of 
knowing how your web browser works. I have my web browser set up so that 
it always asks me to tell it where to store each file it downloads. I 
believe that the default behaviour of most web browsers is to store the 
file in a folder named "Downloads" in your home directory. Finder will 
get you to your home directory, then to Downloads.


Third, install the app. Double-click on the ".dmg" file. An installer 
runs. Follow its instructions.


Fourth, run the app. The installer places the GnuCash app in your 
Applications folder. Use Finder to open the Applications folder. Look 
for an entry named "GnuCash". Double-click on that app to run it.


Does that answer your question?
 —Jim DeLaHunt


On 2023-05-02 15:13, Edwin Booth wrote:

Hi all. Newbee here. Both to GnuCash and to Macs! I’ve wanted to try
GnuCash for a long time but never launched Linux. So now I have a MacPro
laptop and have tried (several times) to download GnuCash on it. It seems
to download (it certainly took several minutes to complete it) but now I
cannot find it anywhere in order to install it. This may be more of an
Apple issue than a GnuCash one, but can someone help me please?

Thanks, Edwin
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Re: [GNC] Printing addresses on checks

[Sherman Yoder]

   I think I tried this, but I may try it again.

   Thanks for your input!

   Sherman

   On 5/2/2023 8:31 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

 When you post a bill, is the check box for 'consolidate splits'
 selected?
 When it is, the AR/AP accounts get a basic summary type transaction
 in their registers for the bill/invoice. (one split for each
 affected other account)
 Without consolidating, all line-items show as individual splits.
 That may or may not influence check printing, but it might be worth
 a test. (though this is just a guess)
 Regards,
 Adrien
 On 5/1/23 8:20 PM, Sherman Yoder wrote:

 Hello,
 I've started using GnuCash recently. I like the program, and
 would like
 to use it in my small business.
 I have not found how to save a vendor's address so it prints on
 a check
 without first creating a bill and then "paying" that bill. That
 does
 indeed work, though a bit of an inconvenience, but then the
 splits will
 not print on the check stubs--only the accounts payable account
 will
 print there.
 I need the splits to print on the checks, so I have been
 printing
 directly from the account register. But then I have to type the
 address
 into the print form every time I print a check.
 Is there a way to use the recorded address AND have the splits
 print on
 the check stubs?

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[GNC] Downloading GnuCash onto a Mac Pro

[Edwin Booth]

Hi all. Newbee here. Both to GnuCash and to Macs! I’ve wanted to try
GnuCash for a long time but never launched Linux. So now I have a MacPro
laptop and have tried (several times) to download GnuCash on it. It seems
to download (it certainly took several minutes to complete it) but now I
cannot find it anywhere in order to install it. This may be more of an
Apple issue than a GnuCash one, but can someone help me please?

Thanks, Edwin
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Re: [GNC] How do I reply to a topic?

[Kevin Reid]

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:17 AM Lipp F.  wrote:

> I am only getting the "gnucash-user Digest, Vol nnn" emails. How do I reply
> to a topic or to a  topic reply? Thx.
>

If you want to reply to messages, you need to turn off digest mode so you
get individual messages. (It is technically possible to do this other
ways, but not usually convenient.)

1. Go to the list options page (via the link at the bottom of every
message, or directly https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/options/gnucash-user
).

2. Enter your email address and password for your subscription (using the
"remind" feature if you don't have the password).

3. Find the line that says “Set Digest Mode” and change it from “On” to
“Off”.

4. Scroll down to the bottom and click “Submit My Changes”.

You will now receive individual messages that you can reply to like any
other email. When doing that, be sure to use “Reply to all” to make sure
that your message is sent to the mailing list (gnucash-user@gnucash.org)
and not only to the person who wrote the message you are replying to.
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Re: [GNC] How do I reply to a topic?

[Fred Bone]

On 02 May 2023 at 11:16, Lipp F. said:

> I am only getting the "gnucash-user Digest, Vol nnn" emails. How do I
> reply to a topic or to a  topic reply? Thx.

It's trivial if you get MIME-digest rather than the text version.



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Re: [GNC] Any performance improvement in GnuCash 5.x?

[R Losey]

I have much less data -- about 6.5 years, but I don't have any slowness
like you report. The "slowest" part is when the auto-save kicks in. I'm
also using the file and not a database to store the data. I understand that
if you use the database, each transaction is saved as it is entered.

I'm also wondering if the new drop-down for transaction descriptions may be
slowing down the system, as it may have to search over the entire
database... but you said menu items... I've never seen such slowdowns,
either on Windows, Mac, or Linux... (I'm running Gnucash 4.18 on Linux, and
5.1 on Windows and iMac). All of these are relatively new operating
systems... at Windows 10, the Windows machine is the oldest.


On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 6:09 PM Lipp F.  wrote:

> I am wondering if users can comment on performance for GnuCash 5.x. I
> remember reading that  GnuCash 5.x is supposed to use proper SQL to query
> the records and not load the entire history of records in memory on
> startup.
>
> For the record, I am using pretty new hardware, sqlite database with about
> 20 years of transactions and GnuCash is not responsive at all. Takes like
> tens of seconds for an action to happen after clicking a menu item.
>
> TIA.
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Re: [GNC] How do I reply to a topic?

[Stan Brown]

On 2023-05-02 08:16, Lipp F. wrote:
> I am only getting the "gnucash-user Digest, Vol nnn" emails. How do I reply
> to a topic or to a  topic reply? Thx.

1. Before clicking Reply, highlight just the portion you are replying
to, including the writer's name. Your email program will probably select
only that part. (If you're only replying to part of a message, just
include that part.)

2. If your email program copies the whole digest, then manually delete
everything _except_ what you are replying to.

3. Subject line: Don't leave any part of the digest's text in your
reply's subject line. Change it to "Re:" and the subject line of the
part you're replying to. (Omit the "Re:" if there's already one there.
Also, you don't need to put "[GNC]" in the subject line.)

4. Type your reply below the previous text.

Is there some reason you want digest form? I tried it, and found that
despite the promise of one omnibus message I got several; digests some
days. And the digest didn't group messages by topic, so it was actually
harder to follow threads then getting individual messages (since
Thunderbird threads messages).

If you want to switch your preference to non-digest, follow the
directions at the bottom of every email.

Stan Brown
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[GNC] How do I reply to a topic?

[Lipp F.]

I am only getting the "gnucash-user Digest, Vol nnn" emails. How do I reply
to a topic or to a  topic reply? Thx.
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Re: [GNC] Printing addresses on checks

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 5/1/2023 9:20 PM, Sherman Yoder wrote:

Hello,

I've started using GnuCash recently. I like the program, and would like
to use it in my small business.

I have not found how to save a vendor's address so it prints on a check
without first creating a bill and then "paying" that bill. That does
indeed work, though a bit of an inconvenience, but then the splits will
not print on the check stubs--only the accounts payable account will
print there.

I need the splits to print on the checks, so I have been printing
directly from the account register. But then I have to type the address
into the print form every time I print a check.

Is there a way to use the recorded address AND have the splits print on
the check stubs?


I am going to describe how you can do this assuming that gnucash does 
not allow you to do this directly.


You know how to have gnucash produce the checks (and stubs) with the 
address but not the splits and how to have gnucash produce the checks 
(and stubs) with the splits but not the address, yes? Then you have 
gnucash do both but output to files (not directly to the printer). Then 
you write a little batch editor program that takes a record from each 
file and from these two produces a record with both the address and the 
splits on the stub portion.


This is a good idea (output from gnucash to a file that then goes 
through a batch editor program before being printed) even if the output 
from gnucash was exactly what you wanted.  Any time you have a name and 
address expected to show through an envelope window there is the risk 
that the next batch of envelopes will have the window in a slightly 
different position. Even a few mms can make the envelopes unusable. It 
is MUCH faster/easier to adjust the positioning of the name/address in 
that batch editor. LOL, several times in my working days I got the call 
"Mike, we are in the middle of a big mailing and just brought in a new 
pallet of envelopes, same supplier and supposedly the same, but the 
windows are now 3 mm higher". I could make/test the fix in a little 
batch editor program MUCH faster than I could going back into the 
program producing the mailing output and trying to fix it there.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Any performance improvement in GnuCash 5.x?

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 5/1/2023 7:07 PM, Lipp F. wrote:

I am wondering if users can comment on performance for GnuCash 5.x. I
remember reading that  GnuCash 5.x is supposed to use proper SQL to query
the records and not load the entire history of records in memory on startup.

For the record, I am using pretty new hardware, sqlite database with about
20 years of transactions and GnuCash is not responsive at all. Takes like
tens of seconds for an action to happen after clicking a menu item.



I think some misunderstanding here. What did you mean by "GnuCash 5.x is 
supposed to use proper SQL"


As somebody who in his working days who  designed/maintained stuff 
running in the DB2 environment (IBM mainframe SQL) that's the behavior 
you described, only "fetching" just what was needed from the SQL 
database. But DB2 was a "database manager" supporting multiple 
simultaneous users.


The mini SQLs like MySQL, sqlite, etc. are not doing this. Not capable 
of supporting multiple simultaneous users. Reading the whole database 
into core. In the sense that I think you mean "proper", not proper SQL. 
Keep in mind that technology has changed in the last few decades. Most 
of us on our home machines have two orders of magnitude larger core than 
the (then huge) mainframes where I worked. The databases couldn't have 
been read into core as they were much larger than the core.



Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Transactions in Placeholder

[Adrien Monteleone]

Ha - that's this very thread!

Sorry for the noise.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/2/23 7:45 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Someone reported that the CSV importer was adding to placeholders as well.

Perhaps these issues are related to the same code block.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/1/23 2:06 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
I'm going to follow up my own message to note that I have now found 
that GnuCash 4.13 under Windows 10 will add transactions to a 
placeholder account even while displaying a message stating that it 
cannot write transactions to placeholder accounts!


I've just had GnuCash do this twice, when it used an ancient 
transaction as a template (I'll write about that in a different thread 
shortly) that has an account that I have since set as a placeholder 
account and hidden because it is closed.


Something is clearly broken here.


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Re: [GNC] Transactions in Placeholder

[Adrien Monteleone]

Someone reported that the CSV importer was adding to placeholders as well.

Perhaps these issues are related to the same code block.

Regards,
Adrien

On 5/1/23 2:06 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:

I'm going to follow up my own message to note that I have now found that 
GnuCash 4.13 under Windows 10 will add transactions to a placeholder account 
even while displaying a message stating that it cannot write transactions to 
placeholder accounts!

I've just had GnuCash do this twice, when it used an ancient transaction as a 
template (I'll write about that in a different thread shortly) that has an 
account that I have since set as a placeholder account and hidden because it is 
closed.

Something is clearly broken here.


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Re: [GNC] Turn of drop list when entering data in memo/description line

[Adrien Monteleone]

If 4.14 is not available in your distro's repos, you can certainly use 
the flatpak. You should probably remove 5.0 though first.


What distro/version? If you don't have time to triage the bug, others 
might be able to test on a similar system and get it squashed.


Regards,
Adrien

On 4/29/23 5:14 AM, Trevor Dempsey via gnucash-user wrote:

Greetings,

I just upgraded to version 5.0 and I would like to know how to turn OFF 
the drop list when entering a description in the memo line.


I can only enter 3 letters before it seizes up and I must cancel my 
entry to continue. To enter new data into this memo line, I must first 
write it in a text file and then copy/paste it onto the line.


I would roll back this upgrade if I could but the version of linux I am 
using does not allow that.


Any help would be appreciated because at the moment Gnucash is unusable.


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Re: [GNC] Changes to transaction entry, and quirks

[Adrien Monteleone]

David,

It sounds like the entire issue is related to the new suggester.

I'd hazard the really old templates are showing up due to spelling 
issues as you noted at the end of your post.


As to how to work around that till it is improved, I'm not sure.

I'm using this new feature as a means to correct old spellings at the 
moment as a cleanup. I'd suspect that would likely avoid the issues you 
are seeing, but of course, that's just a bit too OCD for some, and 
certainly not practical if you have a decade or more of transactions in 
a book.


There have been many requests over the years to be able to edit 
Descriptions independently as a list. That may or may not be useful here 
if it is ever implemented.


Until then:

If I'm not mistaken, typing a space (or maybe two) after an undesired 
suggestion should abandon that suggestion and enable 'new' entries 
without auto-complete. You'd have to do this without tabbing through an 
undesired suggestion. Of course, that means you lose auto-complete from 
a recent entry too, but it doesn't look like you were able to get it 
work right for now anyway.


Regards,
Adrien

On 5/1/23 2:28 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:

Hello,

I am not sure exactly what changes have been implemented in the transaction 
entry logic, but I've begun seeing GnuCash offer me ancient transactions as 
templates for current data entry. So, instead of giving me a recent 
transaction, I end up with a transaction from 12 years ago.

 From the prompt, it's not possible to know that this is happening before 
accepting the suggestion; once accepted, I have to cancel the transaction and 
start over-- if I notice that the transaction is wrong! Moreover, since almost 
everything in my financial world has changed during my use of GnuCash, I am 
finding that I accidentally put transactions into unplanned and inappropriate 
accounts. This is even more troubling since I've found that GnuCash will add 
these transactions despite the destination accounts being placeholder accounts.

I am pretty sure that this didn't happen in earlier versions, but I'm known to 
be wrong more often than not.

Short of splitting my file apart (which I'm loath to do), is there any way to 
alter the suggestion list so that it doesn't offer me outdated transactions? 
Can I delete entries from the list? Can I tell it not to use transactions that 
involve placeholder accounts?

And on a related note, I've found that the suggester does not always respect different character strings, and 
will conflate different strings into one transaction. What I mean is this: I previously entered a transaction 
with the description "Payment- Credit Card" (note the spacing with the hyphen).  This transaction 
transferred money to an account that is now a placeholder account. I now prefer "Payment - Credit 
Card" (again, note the spacing with the hyphen). When I type "Payment -" with the preceding 
space, I *should* get the new version of the transaction (and that is what displays in the prompt)-- but when 
I tab out of the field, the *old* transaction gets inserted instead of the new. I don't understand how this 
happens, but it has happened numerous times for me.


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Re: [GNC] Any performance improvement in GnuCash 5.x?

[Adrien Monteleone]

5.0 didn't make it that far in SQL modernization as planned, though huge 
improvements have been made in preparation for that move.


My db is only about 7 years old, (and no investment stuff, which can 
create lots of transactions for some active folks) but I'm not seeing 
any performance issues.


What OS?

Can you check the Wiki about providing a Tracefile, or maybe run GnuCash 
from the Command Line /Terminal to get some output.


There might be things completely unrelated to SQL/file access that is 
causing a bottleneck.


Regards,
Adrien

On 5/1/23 6:07 PM, Lipp F. wrote:

I am wondering if users can comment on performance for GnuCash 5.x. I
remember reading that  GnuCash 5.x is supposed to use proper SQL to query
the records and not load the entire history of records in memory on startup.

For the record, I am using pretty new hardware, sqlite database with about
20 years of transactions and GnuCash is not responsive at all. Takes like
tens of seconds for an action to happen after clicking a menu item.


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Re: [GNC] Printing addresses on checks

[Adrien Monteleone]

When you post a bill, is the check box for 'consolidate splits' selected?

When it is, the AR/AP accounts get a basic summary type transaction in 
their registers for the bill/invoice. (one split for each affected other 
account)


Without consolidating, all line-items show as individual splits.

That may or may not influence check printing, but it might be worth a 
test. (though this is just a guess)


Regards,
Adrien

On 5/1/23 8:20 PM, Sherman Yoder wrote:

Hello,

I've started using GnuCash recently. I like the program, and would like
to use it in my small business.

I have not found how to save a vendor's address so it prints on a check
without first creating a bill and then "paying" that bill. That does
indeed work, though a bit of an inconvenience, but then the splits will
not print on the check stubs--only the accounts payable account will
print there.

I need the splits to print on the checks, so I have been printing
directly from the account register. But then I have to type the address
into the print form every time I print a check.

Is there a way to use the recorded address AND have the splits print on
the check stubs?


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Re: [GNC] Atualização GnuCash versão 5.0

[Adrien Monteleone]

Eduardo,

Geert's explanation of the changes in this reply to a similar thread 
should help:


https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-April/106682.html

Regards,
Adrien

p.s. - I copied you you since I wasn't sure if you had left this list 
for the Brazilian list or not and Geert's explanation seems to be a 
direct answer for your issue.


--
(via DuckDuckGo Translate)

Eduardo,

A explicação de Geert sobre as mudanças nesta resposta a um tópico 
semelhante deve ajudar:


https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-April/106682.html

Relação,
Adrien

p.s. - Eu copiei você já que não tinha certeza se você tinha saído dessa 
lista para a lista brasileira ou não e a explicação do Geert parece ser 
uma resposta direta para o seu problema.


On 4/29/23 6:34 AM, eduardo key matsudo wrote:

Bom dia.

Utilizava normalmente o GnuCash até a versão 4.13, realizando importações de transações 
".CSV", multisplit, vinculando as colunas normalmente (DATA, DESCRIÇÃO, NÚMERO, 
AÇÃO, DÉBITO, CONTA, COMENTÁRIO e NOTAS).
Nesta atualização, 5.0, notei várias alterações no formato da importação, com a 
substituição dos campos CRÉDITO e DÉBITO anteriormente disponíveis, destinados 
à informação do valor, pelos campos QUANTIA, MONTANTE, MONTANTE(NEGAITVO), 
VALOR, VALOR(NEGATIVO), PREÇO
Já tentei alterar o ".CSV" de várias formas, incluindo uma coluna para valores positivos e outra para 
negativos (esta com valores "+" e "-"), mas sempre resulta na msg "selecione uma coluna 
de VALOR(NEGATIVO), e não progride na importação.
Alguém poderia fornecer uma tabela de relacionamento dos campos para correta formatação 
do ".CSV" nesta nova versão?

Agradeço muito pela ajuda

Atenciosamente,

Eduardo Key Matsudo


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Re: [GNC] Atualização GnuCash versão 5.0

[Adrien Monteleone]

Eduardo,

Geert's explanation of the changes in this reply to a similar thread 
should help:


https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-April/106682.html

Regards,
Adrien

p.s. - I copied you you since I wasn't sure if you had left this list 
for the Brazilian list or not and Geert's explanation seems to be a 
direct answer for your issue.


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Eduardo,

A explicação de Geert sobre as mudanças nesta resposta a um tópico 
semelhante deve ajudar:


https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-April/106682.html

Relação,
Adrien

p.s. - Eu copiei você já que não tinha certeza se você tinha saído dessa 
lista para a lista brasileira ou não e a explicação do Geert parece ser 
uma resposta direta para o seu problema.


On 4/29/23 6:34 AM, eduardo key matsudo wrote:

Bom dia.

Utilizava normalmente o GnuCash até a versão 4.13, realizando importações de transações 
".CSV", multisplit, vinculando as colunas normalmente (DATA, DESCRIÇÃO, NÚMERO, 
AÇÃO, DÉBITO, CONTA, COMENTÁRIO e NOTAS).
Nesta atualização, 5.0, notei várias alterações no formato da importação, com a 
substituição dos campos CRÉDITO e DÉBITO anteriormente disponíveis, destinados 
à informação do valor, pelos campos QUANTIA, MONTANTE, MONTANTE(NEGAITVO), 
VALOR, VALOR(NEGATIVO), PREÇO
Já tentei alterar o ".CSV" de várias formas, incluindo uma coluna para valores positivos e outra para 
negativos (esta com valores "+" e "-"), mas sempre resulta na msg "selecione uma coluna 
de VALOR(NEGATIVO), e não progride na importação.
Alguém poderia fornecer uma tabela de relacionamento dos campos para correta formatação 
do ".CSV" nesta nova versão?

Agradeço muito pela ajuda

Atenciosamente,

Eduardo Key Matsudo


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[GNC] How to set dates for all reports?

[Chris Green]

I have this problem every time I try and get some reports out of
GnuCash.

How can I set the dates for *all* reports so that they all end up
reporting the same period?

Or, alternatively, how do I set up the 'Accounting Period'?

-- 
Chris Green
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[GNC] Tags for classification/category/dimension transaction report

[flywire]

Re: https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-May/106749.html

Vince you are a champion!

https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/1623#issuecomment-1530788858
> My personal view is this workaround is the most significant improvement
since V2.
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