[GNC] Fwd: What's the actual usage of "Default Chargeback Project"?
Found that I sent the reply to gnucash-dev instead of gnucash-user accidentally. Re-posting here. Thanks, so the "Job" seems a work in progress feature, and the "Default Chargeback Project" didn't do anything useful in its current form? Also, since I'm reviewing the GnuCash translation of my native language, I have another question regarding the "Extra Payments" / "Addition to Card" field when creating an expense voucher. From what I understand, when this field is filled, it means that some amount in the expense voucher is actually paid by credit card, even it's entered as paid by cash. For example, if I have the following entries in my expense voucher: Desc Accounts Subtotal Payment PenExpense:Office Supplies $30 Cash Glue Expense:Office Supplies $20 Charge And I set "Addition to Card" to 5, GnuCash will create a split in A/Payable with $25 (30-5), and another $5 into credit card account , which means parts of the "Pen" expense are actually already charged by credit card. My question is in what context one will use the "Extra Payments" / "Addition to Card" instead of just selecting "Charge" in the entries? If there is an example, it would be really useful to help me understand the concept here, since the online manual has no information on this field. Thanks for the help. Adrien Monteleone 於 2023年5月14日 週日 上午3:04寫道： > > That's a great question. Over the years as I've read threads on this my > understanding is that 'job for customer A' is *not* the same 'job' as > 'job for Vendor B' regardless of the name of the job. They are distinct > data elements. > > My other understanding is that the feature was supposed to be for making > it easier to pass vendor charges on to a customer. (as you're trying to > do) but the above issue appears to make that not possible. > > Perhaps someone who uses this feature can expound. > > *note, 'job' is a poor word choice in the UI as it has been more > accurately described by its creator as a 'purchase order'. I've filed a > bug on this but no action so far as I'm sure it is low priority. > Additionally there are limitations on Jobs as they cannot cover more > than one Vendor or more than one Customer. (so individual line items > from a single PO from a regular Vendor/supplier can't be charged back to > different customers - you'd have to artificially split it up to use the > feature) > > As for where Job info is used, there is a limited report that shows > Vendor charges vs. Customer charges. (Reports > Business > Job Report) > but at least as of 5.1, that is useless because there is no Option to > select the Job you want to report on. > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 5/13/23 10:25 AM, BrianHsu wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to understand of the "Default Chargeback Project" field > > when creating a bill or an expense voucher from the Business module. > > > > From the online manual > > (https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/busnss-ap-bills1.html), > > it I understand it correctly, it should be something like that: > > > > 1. I have a "Project XYZ" for "Customer A". > > 2. I outsourced some programming job of "Project XZY" to "Vendor B" > > 3. I created a bill for "Vendor B", as they charged me USD $1000 > > 4. In the that bill, I would record that the "Default Chargeback > > Project" is "Customer A" / "Project XYZ". So I know that this cost is > > for support that project. > > > > If that's the case, I'm wondering where exactly these two field will be > > used? > > > > It seems that I couldn't find any usage of these two field, except > > when I create / edit a bill or an expense voucher. > > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Best regards, 許洛豪（Brian Hsu） -- Best regards, 許洛豪（Brian Hsu） ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] What's the actual usage of "Default Chargeback Project"?
Hi, I'm trying to understand of the "Default Chargeback Project" field when creating a bill or an expense voucher from the Business module. From the online manual (https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/busnss-ap-bills1.html), it I understand it correctly, it should be something like that: 1. I have a "Project XYZ" for "Customer A". 2. I outsourced some programming job of "Project XZY" to "Vendor B" 3. I created a bill for "Vendor B", as they charged me USD $1000 4. In the that bill, I would record that the "Default Chargeback Project" is "Customer A" / "Project XYZ". So I know that this cost is for support that project. If that's the case, I'm wondering where exactly these two field will be used? It seems that I couldn't find any usage of these two field, except when I create / edit a bill or an expense voucher. -- Best regards, 許洛豪（Brian Hsu） ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config
Hi, Sorry to bother everybody again. I'm pretty sure this is a Gentoo-package specific bug instead of GnuCash now. When I build and install GnuCash 4.8 from source code downloaded from GitHub directly, everything works fine and this problem does not exist anymore. This bug only exists when I install GnuCash 4.8 through Gentoo's official repository. It should be a Gentoo package bug, not GnuCash's bug. I'll report it to the package maintainer. Thanks for your help. David Carlson 於 2021年11月23日 週二 上午10:12寫道： > > Sorry, from what I could easily see on my smartphone it appeared that > Brian's problem was unrelated to the problem described in > https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798330 and that it shouldn't be > hijacking that bug report. Now I see a different bug report number, so > maybe it's ok. > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 6:57 PM john wrote: > > > David, > > > > He's using Gentoo eMerge. See > > https://bugs.gnucash.org/attachment.cgi?id=374278 < > > https://bugs.gnucash.org/attachment.cgi?id=374278> for a lot more detail. > > > > Regards, > > John Ralls > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2021, at 1:53 PM, davidcousen...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > Brian > > > What operating Sytem are you using and how are you installing it > > (flatpack msi , > > > build from source etc)? > > > > > > David Cousens > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2021-11-22 at 22:52 +0800, BrianHsu wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I've encountered the issue that after install GnuCash 4.8, it won't > > >> read or store my preferences, as described at: > > >> > > >> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798330 > > >> > > >> But there is a little different, since I just do a fresh OS install, > > >> I'm sure I don't have any other GnuCash version or XDG_DATA_DIRS > > >> issue. > > >> > > >> And I also noticed some strange things, IIRC, after a fresh GnuCash is > > >> installed and launched for first time, it should have the following > > >> behavior: > > >> > > >> 1. Display a splash screen > > >> 2. Show a dialog that contains tips > > >> 3. When create a new file, it should have a account setting wizard > > popped up. > > >> > > >> None of above happens when I launch my fresh installed GnuCash 4.8, > > >> which is really strange. > > >> > > >> Also, it appears even if I manually ticked those checkbox in > > >> Preference dialog, it just won't save and will not display splash / > > >> tips dialog anyway. > > >> > > >> Here is my screen recording to demonstrate this problem: > > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZtVVvxxsME > > >> > > >> I've also checked settings mentioned at the bug ticket, but with no > > >> luck. Everything seems correct on my system, but it just won't save my > > >> preference. > > >> > > >> I've attached a detail reproduce / investigation steps on the ticket, > > >> hope someone might figure out what happened and help me resolved this > > >> issue. > > >> > > > > > > ___ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > - > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > -- > David Carlson > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Best regards, 許洛豪（Brian Hsu） ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config
Hi, Yes, I'm using Gentoo and install it directly from official Gentoo repository. I have tried reproduce this issue with a clean installed openSUSE which also has GnuCash 4.8 in their official repository. But everything is fine within OpenSUSE, preference could be correctly read and write. It must be a Gentoo-specific issue, I'll report it to Gentoo's package maintainers first. Thanks for all of your help. john 於 2021年11月23日 週二 上午8:57寫道： > > David, > > He's using Gentoo eMerge. See > https://bugs.gnucash.org/attachment.cgi?id=374278 > <https://bugs.gnucash.org/attachment.cgi?id=374278> for a lot more detail. > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > > On Nov 22, 2021, at 1:53 PM, davidcousen...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Brian > > What operating Sytem are you using and how are you installing it (flatpack > > msi , > > build from source etc)? > > > > David Cousens > > > > > > On Mon, 2021-11-22 at 22:52 +0800, BrianHsu wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I've encountered the issue that after install GnuCash 4.8, it won't > >> read or store my preferences, as described at: > >> > >> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798330 > >> > >> But there is a little different, since I just do a fresh OS install, > >> I'm sure I don't have any other GnuCash version or XDG_DATA_DIRS > >> issue. > >> > >> And I also noticed some strange things, IIRC, after a fresh GnuCash is > >> installed and launched for first time, it should have the following > >> behavior: > >> > >> 1. Display a splash screen > >> 2. Show a dialog that contains tips > >> 3. When create a new file, it should have a account setting wizard popped > >> up. > >> > >> None of above happens when I launch my fresh installed GnuCash 4.8, > >> which is really strange. > >> > >> Also, it appears even if I manually ticked those checkbox in > >> Preference dialog, it just won't save and will not display splash / > >> tips dialog anyway. > >> > >> Here is my screen recording to demonstrate this problem: > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZtVVvxxsME > >> > >> I've also checked settings mentioned at the bug ticket, but with no > >> luck. Everything seems correct on my system, but it just won't save my > >> preference. > >> > >> I've attached a detail reproduce / investigation steps on the ticket, > >> hope someone might figure out what happened and help me resolved this > >> issue. > >> > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Best regards, 許洛豪（Brian Hsu） ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config
Hi, I've encountered the issue that after install GnuCash 4.8, it won't read or store my preferences, as described at: https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798330 But there is a little different, since I just do a fresh OS install, I'm sure I don't have any other GnuCash version or XDG_DATA_DIRS issue. And I also noticed some strange things, IIRC, after a fresh GnuCash is installed and launched for first time, it should have the following behavior: 1. Display a splash screen 2. Show a dialog that contains tips 3. When create a new file, it should have a account setting wizard popped up. None of above happens when I launch my fresh installed GnuCash 4.8, which is really strange. Also, it appears even if I manually ticked those checkbox in Preference dialog, it just won't save and will not display splash / tips dialog anyway. Here is my screen recording to demonstrate this problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZtVVvxxsME I've also checked settings mentioned at the bug ticket, but with no luck. Everything seems correct on my system, but it just won't save my preference. I've attached a detail reproduce / investigation steps on the ticket, hope someone might figure out what happened and help me resolved this issue. -- Best regards, 許洛豪（Brian Hsu） ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
