[GNC] Help with importing into GnuCash

2024-09-14 Thread Dr Lawrence M Fox
I would like to run GnuCash in tandem with QuickBooks Enterprise for a 
couple months just to see if GnuCash will work for me. I can export the 
Chart of Accounts, Vendors, Customers and Transactions, but I am next to 
clueless as to how to import (I've tried). Is there someone 
knowledgeable here who would be willing to do it for me for a fee?


Thanks

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Re: [GNC] Recommendations for hosting gnucash file - Google Drive, Microsoft 365, Local server?

2024-09-12 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I'll have to evaluate that option vs Bitwarden (cloud stored).  Just 
recently my tablet stopped talking to Bitwarden so
I'd have to punch a hole in the firewall for external access to the NAS 
(I have other reasons to want to do off-site backup to the NAS).


On 9/12/24 13:41, David Cousens wrote:
There are keypass versions for all of them. Then the database has to 
be accessible from all of them


David Cousens

On Thu, 2024-09-12 at 11:42 -0700, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

On 9/12/24 11:01, Mark at Lorimark wrote:

use keepass - keep the database on your pc



Works great on the PC.  But then there are the laptop, the phone, the
tablet, etc. And not always at home.

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Re: [GNC] Recommendations for hosting gnucash file - Google Drive, Microsoft 365, Local server?

2024-09-12 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 9/12/24 11:01, Mark at Lorimark wrote:

use keepass - keep the database on your pc



Works great on the PC.  But then there are the laptop, the phone, the 
tablet, etc. And not always at home.


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Re: [GNC] Recommendations for hosting gnucash file - Google Drive, Microsoft 365, Local server?

2024-09-12 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 9/11/24 23:03, Chris Green wrote:

No, it's impossible to get back to the password from the 'scrambled'
string.  The **only** way to validate your password is to encrypt the
password you enter and then compare the result with the 'scrambled'
string.

In particular the only way to discover a password is to 'brute force'
it by trying zillions of possible passwords until one, when encryted,
produces the required 'scrambled' string.
Well, in a fashion.  Given the size of disk drives all one needs to do 
is pre-compute all possible
scrambles of strings up to a certain size.  I think the current estimate 
is that this has been done for

all strings up to (maybe including) 8 characters long.

Then all you do is look up the scrambled value and see what string (or 
in some cases, set of strings)

pre-computes to that value.

Which is why most sites now want a password of at least 8 
characters.More relevant to the original question is that it's even more

difficult to break encryption like the above when the 'password' that
you're trying to obtain is actually a large chunk of text.  Even if
you happen to know it's (say) 1000 characters long brute forcing it is
quite impossible.


The current number of printable characters is 95 per position.  So all 
possible  8 character strings is 95^8 -- about 6 PB.
Not trivial but much better than brute forcing.  Which is why my minimum 
password length is way longer than that!


Recently ran into a bank that had a max length much shorter than my 
personal limit.  They are no longer in business -- I doubt my

complaint had much to do with their merger!

BTW, who remembers a 1000 character password anyway!  I know, use a 
password manager -- but then you have to trust that it is secure.

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Re: [GNC] New Australian user questions

2024-09-09 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Sorry, I can't help with the Windows Version nor do I use the finance 
quote items.  I can respond to some of your other questions.


But first, do you really need to handle the exchange rates into those 
other currencies?  If there is no balance kept in Paypal and it handles 
all the currency conversion why not just record everything in AUD?


I have annotated other responses below (while snipping out a bunch of 
things.


On 9/7/24 20:40, Megan Tilley wrote:

You all appear to have a good handle on GnuCash, but I am a brand newbie!!!

Welcome aboard.  Most of us started out as newbies also.

Question 3: Can I not just reinstall over top of what I have already done?
I've heard that the Windows installer will handle the reinstall just 
fine.  I'm Linux based (Ubuntu) and try to avoid Windows as much as 
possible.  But, just try to install again and see if that works.

Question 4: Which perspective should I adopt when looking at a transaction?
I stand in my account and pay out using the Debit column, or I stand in the
Coat account and use the debit column (correspondingly, the bank account is
the credit column)?
Adopt the one that makes the most sense at the time.  Personally, I 
spent most of my transaction entry in Assets:Bank Name:Checking, since I 
have both a checking and savings account with them.  If I was recording 
the month-end interest earned for the savings account I would sit in 
Assets:Bank Name:Savings.


However, if I wanted to look at it from Income:Interest Received, I 
might sit there and enter both the checking and savings as a 
three-account transaction with the Asset accounts each getting a debit 
entry (Assets are debit accounts -- you own their value) and Income 
getting the total credit amount.  You might find this chart handy:


Debits

 * Debits increase asset accounts
 * Debits increase expense accounts
 * Debits decrease income accounts
 * Debits decrease equity accounts
 * Debits decrease liability accounts
 * Debits are always recorded on the left when a financial transaction
   occurs

Credits

 * Credits decrease asset accounts
 * Credits decrease expense accounts
 * Credits increase income accounts
 * Credits increase liability accounts
 * Credits increase equity accounts
 * Credits are always recorded on the right when a financial
   transaction occurs


Further to this last, as I said, I use Paypal as a pass through conversion
channel- my Aussie bank account is used to pay for an item in a US market
(NOT an investment/shares/stocks) - say, a 'Reference Book'. I know that I
have to have 3 entries in a transaction: origin (Aussie Bank account), into
Paypal as AUD, conversion by Paypal to USD, payment to US company for my
'Reference Book'. Referring to Question 4 :-
Do you really need to track the exchange rates and US $ amount?  At the 
end of the day you paid out X AUD for the book.
I work with a non-profit that has a clinic in the Philippines and so 
does sent US $ over their which is transferred to Php (Philippine 
peso).  Even there, for the US books I just note how much US was sent (I 
do record the Php equivalent in the note/memo area).  So, since this is 
an expense:


Credit x AUD (cost of book) to Asset:Bank Name:Checking and Debit X AUD 
to Expense:Books.


Now, if you kept a balance in Paypal (I presume in AUD), you would need 
to set that up as an Asset account in AUD currency and now you would 
have to include it.
Then you would need to have a set of US Expense accounts that would 
record the US $ cost of the book.  That would get messy if you also 
bought books in AUD, CAD, SWE, as each would need their own expense 
account.  Since this is an expense:


Credit Asset:Bank Name:Checking for the AUD cost of the book
Debit Asset:Paypal for the AUD value transferred to Paypal
Debit Expense:USD:Books for the US$ value of the book cost  (GnuCash 
will ask what is the AUD value for the USD)
Credt Asset:Paypal for the AUD value of the funds converted to US $ 
transferred out.


Again I ask if this level of detail is really worth tracking for your 
situation.



Question 5: which of the columns in the transaction should host my Aussie
bank? Debit column or Credit Column?
Wrong perspective!  The Asset account would have both Debit and Credit 
values (deposits being Debit and expense entries being Credit).  But 
your Bank Account is an Asset to you.

Question 6: which of the columns should reflect AUD into Paypal?
Paypal should be an Asset account (well, it could be set up as a 
Liability which would reverse the perspective).  So deposits would be a 
Debit.

Question 7: which of the columns should reflect USD from Paypal to the Book
company?

Payments going out will reduce the value of this Asset so would be a Credit.

Question 8: which of the columns should reflect the Book company receiving
my USD?
Do you really want to track the Book Company or just the expense of 
buying a book?  Expense are debits so an increase to an expense account 
is a Debit to that account.

Que

Re: [GNC] Balance (Period) vs Total (Period)

2024-09-06 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I just added Balance (Period) and see that they differ on the parent 
accounts.  In that case my parents don't have any transactions 
(placeholder accounts) so the Balance (Period) is zero.  The Total 
(Period) holds the rolled up totals from the child accounts.


I'm going to drop Balance (Period) and continue using Total (Period).

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On 9/6/24 09:27, interesse wrote:

Hello all,

can someone explain the difference between the Balance (Period) and 
the Total (Period) value in the account overview?


In my case they are always the same, but is this always the case or is 
there a difference?


Hope someone can clarify that, I could not find something about it on 
the web.


Best regards
Marco

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Re: [GNC] [newbie] how to treat a gift?

2024-09-03 Thread Stephen M. Butler
You just identified the two accounts involved in this entry. Proceed 
with the transaction.


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On 9/3/24 11:20, Boniforti Flavio wrote:

Hi all.
I've received 100 bucks from a relative as a gift, which he sent to me via
bank wire transfer.
In my GnuCash accounts I do have one called "Income:Gifts Received" and I
also of course have the "Assets:Current Assets:Checking Account", where the
money from the gift finally landed.

How should I proceed to register this gift I received? I don't see any
reason to do a "double-entry", because the money is not coming from one of
my accounts - it's just getting INTO one of my accounts from external...
Same question for my salary, of course.

Thanks for your help,
F.

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Re: [GNC] how to total up all "stock transactions" in a year

2024-08-21 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I presume you have an asset account that holds all these transactions -- 
most likely a parent account.  If so, I would add the "Total (Period)" 
column on the accounts tab.  That way you have nothing further to do and 
have the number available at all times for instant inspection.


The other option is to do a transaction report to pick the relevant 
accounts (and their children) for the current (or specified) year and 
maybe just ask for the grand total.


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On 8/21/24 10:04, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:

Hello,

for… tax reasons¹… I need to be able to tell if in a given year the sum
of money I used to buy/sell financial instruments is above a certain
number (so I need to sum up money used to buy and deduct all money
received when selling).

In practice I'd like to sum up all transactions that involved trading
non-currencies in a given year.
I don't do a ton of transactions, but still enough and across plenty of
instruments and across several brokerage firms, so my CoA is quite
convoluted.

How would you recommend I do such query in gnucash?




¹ In Italy, this is then used to compute the "ISEE" (an indicator of the
economic condition of the family).  But tbh it is an interesting number
to have on its own. :)



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[GNC] Ancient History

2024-08-06 Thread Stephen M. Butler


On 8/5/24 23:31, Michael Hendry wrote:

On 6 Aug 2024, at 05:06, John Ralls  wrote:


Michael,

I am, though not as long as you or your dad. I didn’t get serious about it 
until the late 90s. Neither of my children are interested either. On the rare 
occasions I find time I’m also working on getting my family history work 
written up on WikiTree: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ralls-240

Well hello, 23rd cousin twice removed!


I’m impressed with your father’s diligence. He’s the first I’ve heard of who 
tried to use punch cards to keep track of genealogy research.

Perhaps we should take this conversation off the GnuCash List?



Here I am lapping this up with tongue hanging out.  And your going 
off-list!!!


Now, I did change the subject line even though it is a reply all.

My tree up at Ancestory is over 3500 people strong.  I'm using Family 
Tree Maker at home (wish it would run on Linux).  One maternal line runs 
back to the Mayflower.  Although it doesn't sound like I'm as dedicated 
as the two of you.


As for punched cards, my introduction to them was in the early 1970's.  
Used a 96 column punch card to organize and print the college pictorial 
in alphabetical order.  My one and only use of RPG on a System/3.
Then used an 80 column card to load up all the alumni from the School of 
Engineering.  Yup, broke their card reader on a PDP 11/20 that summer.


Graduated to work at a hospital with a Honeywell 115 mod 2 machine with 
32K of solid core (which took up 4' of cabinet space.


In the early 80's ran a BBS using the IBM PC with DoubleDOS.  I was the 
FidoNet Region 17 coordinator for several years.  Then came the Internet.

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Re: [GNC] Importing causes 'y' in reconciliation?

2024-08-01 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Sounds like a bug.

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On 8/1/24 12:58, Mark at Lorimark wrote:
Hi Steve, yes but this seems like it's setting the R to 'y' which is 
really odd to me.  I can see setting it to 'c', but not 'y'.


Thank you for your reply.

~mark petryk
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On 8/1/24 14:01, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

On 8/1/24 11:01, Mark at Lorimark wrote:
Helping someone out with their new GnuCash experience, regarding 
importing and reconciliation. He reports that after an import, the 
reconciliation balances are off, and the account balances are off.


I looked at his register, and he had reconciled 5 months or so, and 
then following those reconciled transaction, were 'c' and 'n' type 
transaction, and then intermixed with those were some also 'y' 
transactions.


We're not sure how that happened.  Does importing set the 
reconciliation status to 'y' at any time for any reason?


Yes, depending on which boxes you checked during the import. Since 
most times you are importing from the "authenticating source", you 
want the import to go ahead and set the flag that this has been 
"cleared" at the source.


It may also find that you already had that transaction (such as a 
payment to the CC) and it will then simply Match&Clear rather than 
loading a whole new transaction.  By changing the check boxes you can 
change that behavior.


--Steve
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Re: [GNC] Importing causes 'y' in reconciliation?

2024-08-01 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 8/1/24 11:01, Mark at Lorimark wrote:
Helping someone out with their new GnuCash experience, regarding 
importing and reconciliation.  He reports that after an import, the 
reconciliation balances are off, and the account balances are off.


I looked at his register, and he had reconciled 5 months or so, and 
then following those reconciled transaction, were 'c' and 'n' type 
transaction, and then intermixed with those were some also 'y' 
transactions.


We're not sure how that happened.  Does importing set the 
reconciliation status to 'y' at any time for any reason?


Yes, depending on which boxes you checked during the import.   Since 
most times you are importing from the "authenticating source", you want 
the import to go ahead and set the flag that this has been "cleared" at 
the source.


It may also find that you already had that transaction (such as a 
payment to the CC) and it will then simply Match&Clear rather than 
loading a whole new transaction.  By changing the check boxes you can 
change that behavior.


--Steve
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Re: [GNC] operation still running....

2024-06-06 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I would minimize windows and see if there is one that is waiting for 
input.   Or, start up a terminal session and see what us running with Top.


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On 6/6/24 17:18, Richard Dawson wrote:
I completed reconciliation and then tried to save and close.  I 
received a message, "An operation is still running, wait for it to 
complete before quitting."


I've been waiting for quite a while, and nothing seems to be hitting.  
If I attempt to save, I get the same message.  Only the list of 
accounts window is open. How should I proceed?


I am running Version: 4.8, Build ID: 4.8a+(2021-09-28), from, as I 
recall, Ubuntu repository.  Using Neon Linux, and ubuntu derivative.


Thank you for any suggestions.

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Re: [GNC] Ubuntu 24.04 update -- problems

2024-05-22 Thread Stephen M. Butler
1.  Somehow, after the update, I had two PPA entries for mozilla team.  
Kenetic and mantic.  Kept the mantic:
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10127 May 22 14:07 
mozillateam-ubuntu-ppa-kinetic.sources
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9908 May 22 14:07 
mozillateam-ubuntu-ppa-mantic.sources


    That fixed the problem with software updater and also allowed sudo 
apt update work.


2.  Had to install the following packages after the upgrade (before I 
could rebuild GnC):

    libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37
    libwebkit2gtk-4.1
    libsecret-1-0
    libsecret-1-dev
    libboost-all-dev

    Took several attempts to get all the missing packages loaded back 
(and a lot of research to get the right names).


3.  I did a git pull before doing the rebuild so moved from 5.6-87 to 
5.6-150.


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On 5/22/24 14:32, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

Anybody on Ubuntu may want to wait a bit before upgrading o 24.04 LTS.

I just did the upgrade and GnuCash now fails to start with err:

gnucash: error while loading shared libraries:
libboost_locale.so.1.74.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory


Did a find command:

sudo find / -name libboost_locale.so.*
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_locale.so.1.83.0


Attempted to rebuild gnucash and having make problems for webkit. The 
software updater is also broken (won't start).  So BEWARE, don't do 
the upgrade yet.


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[GNC] Ubuntu 24.04 update -- problems

2024-05-22 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Anybody on Ubuntu may want to wait a bit before upgrading o 24.04 LTS.

I just did the upgrade and GnuCash now fails to start with err:

   gnucash: error while loading shared libraries:
   libboost_locale.so.1.74.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
   file or directory


Did a find command:

   sudo find / -name libboost_locale.so.*
   /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_locale.so.1.83.0


Attempted to rebuild gnucash and having make problems for webkit. The 
software updater is also broken (won't start).  So BEWARE, don't do the 
upgrade yet.


--Steve

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Re: [GNC] Multiple Currencies with Balance Sheet not balanced

2024-04-23 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Tried that and tried last before date.  Both had same results.  Only PHP 
rates are in the price database and the entry for 7/5/23 is correct.


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On 4/22/24 22:41, Fred Tydeman wrote:

A guess on my part.

In the Balance sheet:
  Click on Options
     Click on Commodities
        Click on Price Source
          Try Closet to Report Date

You might also check if the conversion rate between PHP and USD was 
recorded:

Tools
   Price Database
      Currencies
        Look in both USD and PHP for the date in question.

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 3:52 PM Stephen M. Butler  wrote:

This has been a thorn in my flesh for some time but I've been too
busy
to deal with it.  The non-profit where I volunteer works in two
currencies:  PHP and USD.  The main currency is set to USD.

Chapter 12 of the Guide implies two ways of tracking multiple
currencies:  Manually (without trading accounts) and Automatically
(with
trading accounts).  I do not have trading accounts activated.

Every time I exchange USD into PHP I enter the exact number of PHP
received for he exact USD value.

Today I tracked down the first instance of the Balance Sheet going
out
of balance.  On July 4, 2023, Assets = Liabilities + Equity.
[$6562.90]
On July 5 there is a single transaction moving $626.80 USD to 34,250
PHP.  But the Balance Sheet for that date shows Assets of $6518.06 vs
Liabilities + Equity of $6516.45

There is only one price entry for 7/5/2023 in the price database. 
I did
click on the transaction to verify the $626.80 to 34,250 PHP was
entered
correctly.

This transaction was between two asset accounts.  One in USD and the
other in PHP.  So why did my Asset value drop?  And why is the
Balance
Sheet out of balance?  I suspect I'll find more of these as I move
forward toward today.

--Steve

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[GNC] Multiple Currencies with Balance Sheet not balanced

2024-04-22 Thread Stephen M. Butler
This has been a thorn in my flesh for some time but I've been too busy 
to deal with it.  The non-profit where I volunteer works in two 
currencies:  PHP and USD.  The main currency is set to USD.


Chapter 12 of the Guide implies two ways of tracking multiple 
currencies:  Manually (without trading accounts) and Automatically (with 
trading accounts).  I do not have trading accounts activated.


Every time I exchange USD into PHP I enter the exact number of PHP 
received for he exact USD value.


Today I tracked down the first instance of the Balance Sheet going out 
of balance.  On July 4, 2023, Assets = Liabilities + Equity. [$6562.90]
On July 5 there is a single transaction moving $626.80 USD to 34,250 
PHP.  But the Balance Sheet for that date shows Assets of $6518.06 vs 
Liabilities + Equity of $6516.45


There is only one price entry for 7/5/2023 in the price database.  I did 
click on the transaction to verify the $626.80 to 34,250 PHP was entered 
correctly.


This transaction was between two asset accounts.  One in USD and the 
other in PHP.  So why did my Asset value drop?  And why is the Balance 
Sheet out of balance?  I suspect I'll find more of these as I move 
forward toward today.


--Steve

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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: gnucash-5.5-1.setup.exe

2024-02-21 Thread Stephen M. Butler
There are too many Linux variants to provide a pre-compiled version 
outside of the standard package distribution channels.


I just did a pull to get v5.5-87 and am compiling it on my Ubuntu 23.10 
box as I type this response.  I can share my script if you want to try 
building it on your box.


--Steve

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On 2/21/24 02:50, hc.stoellinger wrote:

How is a Linux version doing? I suppose you don't  plan a pre-compiled 
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Re: [GNC] Invoking Vendors report causes closure of GNU Cash V5.5

2024-02-06 Thread Stephen M. Butler
5.5 has problems in multiple areas as noted previously in this list.  
I'm staying on 5.4 at least until 5.6 is out.


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On 2/7/24 09:03, Richard Gaede via gnucash-user wrote:

Hi,

I have used V5.4 satisfactorily for some while. I then recently 
installed V5.5 on an Asus notebook operating under Win 11. From the 
first time of use whenever I used the Vendor's Report GNU Cash closed. 
It simply exited with no invitation to save, or other warning. It did 
not close the lock file.


To check this I ran GNU Cash with no other apps running. The behaviour 
was repeated irrespective of the specific vendor, or style sheet used.


I have reverted to V5.4. Has anyone else experienced this.



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Re: [GNC] Automatic account match doesn't work when import transactions

2024-02-05 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I volunteer for a non-profit that maintains a clinic in the 
Philippines.  The local treasurers send me a spreadsheet that I 
manipulate into a CSV file for importing their transactions into GnuCash.


The sequence of events for a CSV transaction import is different that 
for the OFX that I prefer for my personal CC/Bank company.  One 
advantage I have with the file from overseas is that they include a code 
for each type of expense.  I've told GnC to use that code as the "other" 
account (the base account is their "cash" asset account).  So if any new 
codes show up, GnC has me map them to the actual account (usually 
expense).  During that portion you can look at the other mappings and 
make any needed changes.  Then it shows you all the transactions that 
will be imported.  I have never tried to change the mappings at this stage.


For OFX/QFX, the import will allow you to click on a line (double click) 
and adjust the "other" account.  That is the way it learns how to make 
the mappings.  If you make a wrong entry and don't correct it, then 
future imports will go wrong until you have made enough corrections to 
override the initial mapping.  The new mappings are updated toward the 
end of the import.  If you see a line with a wrong mapping you must fix 
it before finishing the import.  Otherwise, that will strengthen the 
wrong mapping.


You can edit the mappings to remove wrong entries.  I think the only way 
to add entries is by making the corrections line-by-line during the 
import process.


--Steve


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On 2/5/24 13:06, Jediator wrote:

Mostly CSV files, but other file formats as well.

On 2/3/24 9:26 PM, Steve Butler wrote:

Which import?  CSV?

On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 13:04 Jediator  wrote:

    I couldn't get the automatic account match to work when importing
    bank/credit card transactions to GC.  Is there anyway to manually
    create
    the matching rules?  Thanks!  -- JC
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Re: [GNC] Intermittent Crash when using recent File dropdown list. Filed as bug # 799215

2024-01-10 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 1/10/24 16:59, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Have you tried opening the (other) desired book directly via command 
line?


It may be the book you are attempting to switch to has an issue, and 
not saving the current one.


It works the second time I try.  So, not the book.  And yes, I've opened 
it multiple times after each crash.  It isn't the same book each time 
either.
Also, since it is prompting you to save, that tells me something was 
edited without a save. Perhaps manually save, then attempt to switch. 
At least that should determine if the crash is happening on save, or 
upon opening the other book.


Oh, I definitely did work.  The fact that when I restart GnC it doesn't 
complain about a lock file on the "old" book tells me that the save 
worked.  The lock file was on the "new" book.


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[GNC] Intermittent Crash when using recent File dropdown list. Filed as bug # 799215

2024-01-10 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Ubuntu 23.10
GnC Build ID: git 5.4-117-gabb4a01ac8+(2023-12-01)

Intermittent when changing books using the recent file dropdown list.

I pick the book I want next from the File recent dropdown list.
GnC asks if I want to save the existing opened book.  I say yes.
Soon thereafter the program goes away.  No stacktrace that I can find.

Start GnC again and it opens the book I was in.  Again I pick from the 
recent file dropdown.  I don't think it asks if I want to save. But I do 
get the Lock File dialogue.  I tell it to open anyway.  It opens.


This happens infrequent and I can't predict when it will happen.

Apparently happens after the lock file is created for the new book but 
before it is read into memory.


What steps do I need to take to get additional information the next time 
this (apparently random) happens?


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Re: [GNC] Starting a new year

2024-01-09 Thread Stephen M. Butler
GnC will handle multiple years worth of accounting information so no 
need to "start" a new year.  Just keep using the same data file(s) and 
enter the appropriate dates.   That's the easiest way.  If you really 
want separate files (books), then you will have to export the accounts 
(last time I tried that I think it exported as a file the GnC could 
open).  However, you will have to enter a transaction to setup the 
beginning account balances.  More work than I want to do.


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On 1/9/24 11:14, Grace wrote:

Hello,

I am just wondering how folks are dealing with starting a new year?

Finishing 2023 I think is easy. You just stop using it.

However, how do I start 2024 with the finishing balances of 2023? Do I 
have set up a brand new set of accounts, or is there a way of doing 
this that I have not found?


Grace

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Re: [GNC] Can I print an account?

2023-12-18 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Check out the Transaction Report.  You will have to configure it to get 
any useful information.  One or more accounts, date range, etc.


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On 12/18/23 15:58, Simon Roberts wrote:

Hi all, I'd like to be able to print a range of transactions in a single
account. Essentially just a dump of what I see on the screen, though I
suppose I would need to select a range of rows and the columns that should
be in the output.

Can this be done? Is it one of the business reports? My accounting
background is essentially nothing, so it's entirely possible I don't know
what one of them might do, though I believe I've tried all the options.

Thanks for any input!
Cheers,
Simon



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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report Options menu bug report

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Was there in 5.4-62 but fixed by 5.4-117.  I did a git pull and then a 
local build.


Guess I should have tried that first.

On 12/1/23 13:31, Glenn Fowler wrote:

Hi,

This has been fixed since the 5.4 release if you want to try a daily 
build: https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/stable/


On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 3:27 PM Stephen M. Butler  wrote:

799149 <https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799149> filed. 
After
initial set of options for Transaction Report, then the Options,
Print
and Make PDF menu options are greyed out on the menu bar.

Screenshot attached to bug report.

Ubuntu 23.10 and GnuCash Version: 5.4  Build ID: git
5.4-62-g2ca6cb2a34+(2023-11-03)
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Re: [GNC] Transaction Report Options menu bug report

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I will update the bug report as I did a git pull for 5.4-117, did the 
build and all works as expected.

I'm going to presume fixed between patch 62 and 117.

On 12/1/23 13:34, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Might be something in a dependency in 23.10.

I can report it also works fine on MacOS.

Regards,
Adrien

On 12/1/23 2:52 PM, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:

i am able to print and make pdf


Gnucash 5.4 Build Flathub 5.4.1 Ubuntu 22.04.3


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[GNC] Transaction Report Options menu bug report

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen M. Butler
799149  filed.  After 
initial set of options for Transaction Report, then the Options, Print 
and Make PDF menu options are greyed out on the menu bar.


Screenshot attached to bug report.

Ubuntu 23.10 and GnuCash Version: 5.4  Build ID: git 
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Re: [GNC] Can I find transactions into an account that has only one split?

2023-11-24 Thread Stephen M. Butler
My client provides a whole range of options:  Reply; Reply List; Reply 
All.  No default.


It must be up to the email software the recipient is using.  If they 
want a new default then they need to get a new client with the the 
default they want.



On 11/24/23 11:16, R Losey wrote:

I was not aware that the admins could do anything; I thought it was the web
page or the email client being used.


On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 9:28 AM David Kirkby 
wrote:


Apologies for not sending to the list. Have the admins considered making
that the default behaviour, which is the case with other mailing lists I am
on.
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 at 18:25, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:


Also, please remember to copy the list on all replies.

Regards,
Adrien


On 11/22/23 3:53 AM, David Kirkby wrote:

Unfortunately that's a bit difficult, as a lot of times I buy things
with PayPal, so there's an entry in the PayPal account where no fees
need to be paid, as the seller pays the fees, not the buyer. So not
every transaction in the PayPal account needs 3 splits - most need 2.

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Re: [GNC] Dealing with escrow account

2023-10-31 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I treat it like another asset account.  The monthly escrow amount goes 
in and when the escrow pays out it comes out as an expense.


So your monthly payment out of your checking account ends up in three 
places:

1.  Interest Expense.
2.  Liability reduction (the mortgage).
3.  Escrow asset account.

Then when you get the statements you can reconcile/verify the Interest 
Expense (YTD), the Mortgage balance, and the escrow balance with any 
related transactions.


On 10/31/23 21:03, Edwin Booth wrote:

Hi. How do y’all deal with a mortgage escrow account? Specifically, each
month I pay into the escrow account along with my monthly PMI payment. It
is all an expense. But when the mortgage company pays out money from that
escrow account (for taxe and insurance payments) how do you account for
them in GnuCash? Or do you just wait until tax time and record it on your
return w/o even putting into GC?

Thanks, Edwin
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 5.4 - reports does not work

2023-10-31 Thread Sylvain M
Hello, I have found a workaround : launching gnucash from the terminal 
with this command :


export WEBKIT_DISABLE_DMABUF_RENDERER=1; gnucash


It's ok,

Thank you for your help,

Sylvain


Le 31/10/2023 à 11:17, Sylvain M a écrit :
Hello, in the last 5.4 version, embeded in ubuntu 23.10, the reports 
provide only a blank page.


Is it a known problem ?

Is there any workaround ?

Thank you,

Sylvain

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[GNC] Gnucash 5.4 - reports does not work

2023-10-31 Thread Sylvain M
Hello, in the last 5.4 version, embeded in ubuntu 23.10, the reports 
provide only a blank page.


Is it a known problem ?

Is there any workaround ?

Thank you,

Sylvain

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Re: [GNC] Having issues with gsettings, dconf, gsettings-dconf-backend and GnuCash

2023-10-22 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I am on Ubuntu 23.04.  My settings allow for the most recent version and 
I have not seen 23.10 as an optional update to apply.


But, on 23.04 I have had not problems building the most recent versions 
of GnuCash from the GIT repository.  A number of releases back a script 
was made available that showed all the dependencies for Ubuntu.  I just 
grepped it and these are the sudo apt statements:


sudo apt install build-essential
sudo apt install cmake
sudo apt install ninja-build
sudo apt install libglib2.0 libglib2.0-dev
sudo apt install libxml2 libxml++2.6-dev libxml2-utils
sudo apt install libxslt1.1 libxslt1-dev
sudo apt install libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev
sudo apt install gtk+3.0 libgtk-3-dev
sudo apt install zlib1g zlib1g-dev
sudo apt install guile-2.0 guile-2.0-dev
sudo apt install swig
sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
sudo apt-get install libsecret-1-0 libsecret-1-0-dev
sudo apt-get install aqbanking-tools libaqbanking-dev
sudo apt-get install gwenhywfar-tools libgwenhywfar60 libgwenhywfar60-dev
sudo apt-get install ktoblzcheck libktoblzcheck1-dev
sudo apt-get install libofx-dev
sudo apt-get install xsltproc
sudo apt-get install libdbi1 libdbi-dev libdbd-pgsql libdbd-mysql 
libdbd-sqlite3

sudo apt-get install python3-pytest
sudo apt install googletest

Now, some of those might have been updated  with the various Ubuntu 
updates over the years.


--Steve

On 10/22/23 09:28, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Considering the timing of the GnuCash release and the Ubuntu 23.10 
release, your build issues are likely due to dependency hell. I've had 
a few frustrating build sessions where GnuCash needed an ever so 
slightly older version of a library that wasn't in the new repos. (and 
this cascaded to some of their dependencies as well) Your build errors 
should be informative enough to figure out if that is the case here. 
(note, when I had that problem it was also on a non-LTS .10 release) 
Sometimes, this is resolvable with a bit of effort. Sometimes, it 
isn't worth the effort.


I see you switched from Pop_OS! 22.04 to Ubuntu 23.10. Any reason not 
to stick with Ubuntu 22.04? Maybe try that in a VM and see if you get 
the same build issues. (you could just keep that VM for GnuCash until 
you resolve the build problems in the host)


There is always flatpak. Of course, be aware of a few workarounds for 
printing and file locations for settings. These should all be 
documented on the GnuCash wiki.


Otherwise, some VM testing would be my approach, though considering 
how you've described your OS transition and upgrades, as well as other 
OS issues, I'd consider the nuclear option if I wasn't too far 
invested in the current installation. A clean install has saved me 
weeks of continued frustration more than once.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/21/23 10:43 AM, Bryan B. wrote:

That is a good idea.

To give some context, without explaining everything: One week ago, I was
running the Ubuntu-based Pop_OS! 22.04. On that system, I had GnuCash 
built

using the "Building on Ubuntu" gnucash-wiki 22.04 script. I did not have
that issue at that time, nor the other GnuCash issue that I encountered
here:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2023-October/046795.html 



I was having other issues with Pop_OS! (network issues that were 
needed on

my previous job), and at the recommendation of my previous employer I
decided to switch to mainstream Ubuntu.

When I switched to Ubuntu 23.10, this issue appeared, along with the 
issue

with gsettings.

Another issue that is worth mentioning, in case this happens to anyone
else, is that I got unlucky with the .iso file I used to install 
mainstream
Ubuntu. I somehow Googled my way into creating an .iso based off of 
22.10,

which is a version of Ubuntu that is no longer supported. I installed on
22.10, then discovered my error. At that point, I upgraded to 23.10.

I also should mention another thing I just remembered. Whenever I open
dconf, even if I don't click anything, Terminator, a terminal app I 
use for
coding, stops working correctly: when I type text and approach the 
side of
the app window, three characters proceed off the edge of the screen 
before
the app's autowrapping feature kicks in and the following characters 
appear

on the next line down.

Also worth mentioning is that the issue with being unable to switch
gsettings background image on the desktop existed before installing the
dconf gui app.

Based on the feedback I am getting, it does seem that something deep 
within
ubuntu is likely broken and a complete reinstall from scratch is the 
only

reasonable way to fix this.

I do like the idea of rebuilding using a virtualbox 23.10 iso and 
getting

the system working first, before redoing everything. Thank you!


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Re: [GNC] I need basic help

2023-10-18 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Edwin,

I routinely download my CC transactions using OFX.  I think you missed a 
very important step.


It sounds like you did tie this OFX file to your CC Liability Account.  
That will be remembered for all future imports from this CC.


It also sounds like you may not have set up all the various expense 
accounts (Groceries, Fuel, Hardware, etc).  Those need to be setup as 
accounts under the Expense top-level account.


Then, during the import process, after you pick the file but before 
doing the actual import step you will see a list of all the 
transactions.  During this first import none of them will show the 
corresponding expense account.  You will need to click on each line and 
indicate to which account that expense should be assigned.  In some 
cases you will have a payment so up.  For the first time you will need 
to assign this to your Asset/Checking account.


This process of assigning accounts to each transaction will teach the 
import process how to automatically assign them in the future. As the 
importer learns each transaction (based on the description), it will 
begin to automatically assign the proper accounts. Occasionally you may 
need to correct the account assignment or it may see a new description 
and not know leaving it assigned to the Invalid Account.  This is your 
clue to click on that line (perhaps double click) and make the 
appropriate assignment.


Hopefully this helps you on future imports.

--Steve

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On 10/18/23 11:09, Edwin Booth wrote:

Hi. New to this. I just downloaded an OFX file for a credit card I have. I
imported it into my “Unsaved Book.” That worked. It is now on the Accounts
Page with an amount under the “Total” column. But there is also a line that
says “Imbalance-USD” with the same same amount under Total. I understand (I
think) that that Imbalance is due to the fact that I have no other account
in there and so there is nothing to balance my CC account with.

So, I obviously need to enter some new accounts. I haven’t paid off all of
that CC account, but I have paid some of it. The unpaid portion would be
under “Liability” I assume, and the paid part under “Expense.”

Not sure what to do next. I’m running GnuCash on a MacBook Pro, which I’m
also pretty new at.

Thanks,

Edwin
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Re: [GNC] Bad date not caught

2023-10-12 Thread Stephen M. Butler
The parser should know the local date format for the user.  That would 
resolve the M/D/Y, D/M/Y, and Y/M/D format issue.


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On 10/12/23 16:27, john wrote:

Rather than banging on about the validity or lack thereof of 31 December 1999, 
which isn't really Fred's complaint, it would be more useful to explain that 
the date parser fires on every keystroke when typing a date in the Date Edit 
text box. That makes it unhelpful to raise a dialog every time the entered date 
isn't valid because that will be true on most of the keypresses when entering a 
date. Not to say that it's not feasible to do so, just that that's how it works 
now. There's already an event handler for when the GncDateEdit loses focus, 
that just needs to be wired up to know that the entered date wasn't used so it 
can put up a message box warning the user.

As I was looking through the code I saw that the intent was to use *today's* 
date,  not time 0, when the date didn't parse correctly. That at least will 
keep the duplicated transaction in view and was an easy fix, so I fixed it.

Another more involved fix would be to make the date parser a bit more liberal 
about delimiters and formats; the only slightly minor difficulty is ordering 
ambiguous sequences: for example 21-10-23 could be 21 October 2023 or 23 
October 2021 and 5/7/9 could be the 9 July 2005, 7 May 2009, or 5 July 2009.

Regards,
John Ralls


On Oct 12, 2023, at 09:51, Michael or Penny Novack  
wrote:

On 10/12/2023 10:40 AM, Fred Tydeman wrote:

In an account, I clicked on Duplicate of a transaction.
I got a small popup with the date field highlighted.
I typed in 5.19.21  (instead of the correct 5/19/21) and pressed enter.
That got me the transaction duplicated, but with the
date of 12/31/1969.
Seems like the code should warn me about bad date.

LOL --- it did, sort of.

The problem is that you didn't know the special meaning of 12/31/1969Now if 
the program had returned 00/00/ you would have understood that you had a 
bad date. In other words, ZERO

By a convention adopted long ago, computers measure time in microseconds since "time 
zero" which was chosen to be midnight, 12/31/69 (before Y2K we tended to write years two digit 
if we meant in the 1900's). That makes the "zero date" a VALID date (00/00/ would not 
be valid in a field expecting a date)

Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] 5.4 build on linux

2023-09-25 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Mike,

I'm running Ubuntu 23.04.  In my GnuCash folder I have a sub-folder 
called gnucash that is a git clone.  From that folder I do a git pull 
and git describe so I know what the latest is.


Then I run a script in the GnuCash folder called build-gnucash that is 
listed below.  That generates a folder called Build-gnucash_5.4-8 (so 
the 8th patch since 5.4).  It built clean.  So now I go into the old 
Build-gnucash-5.3-12 folder and do a sudo make uninstall.  Move to the 
Build-gnucash_5.4-8 folder and do a sudo make install. Upgrade completed.


After a few days in 5.4-8 I'll remove the 5.3-12 folder.  But it is 
there in case I need to fall back


Here is the script that sits in the GnuCash folder.

#!/bin/bash
#
#  build-gnucash
#
# NOte:  do a git pull followed by git checkout of version desired 
before starting script


cd $HOME/Projects/GnuCash/gnucash

GITVER=$(git describe)
MYVER=${GITVER%-*}
MYRPR=Build-gnucash_${MYVER}
echo $MYVER

cd ..

rm -rf $MYRPR  > /dev/null

mkdir $MYRPR

cd $MYRPR

cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local  ../gnucash

make

echo  ##  sudo make install

--Steve

On 9/25/23 15:10, Mike Commissaris wrote:

Downloaded the file from both Sourceforge and Git and when I tried to build
I failed with:
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
Thinking the build instructions may have changed I tried to look at the
Wiki and it appears the
Wiki is down.


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Re: [GNC] Transaction inconsistency when deleting account

2023-09-05 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Yup.  If you messed up an import then you definitely want to delete 
those transactions in all accounts.  If you left those entries hanging 
out there then a new import will also really mess up everything even 
more royally than what Gyle is suggesting.


On 9/5/23 14:00, Gyle McCollam wrote:

John,
for the 1st time, I have to disagree with you.  If you delete the transactions 
when you delete an account it is not only an accounting issue, but will 
seriously mess up your other accounts.  Say there are debits (deposits) and 
credits (withdrawals) from your checking account.  If the account your deleting 
has been around for years, good luck trying to get your bank account to balance 
after those entries are gone.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: john 
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 11:44 AM
To: Gyle McCollam 
Cc: Maf. King ; Mark ; 
gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Transaction inconsistency when deleting account

Yeah, it's a bug. It's supposed to delete the transactions, not just the splits 
in that account only to recreate them in an imbalance account. Otherwise it's 
the same as the move to account option.

The fact that it's poor accounting practice is beside the point. If the user 
wants to follow good accounting practice they can choose to move the splits to 
another account.

Regards,
John Ralls


On Sep 5, 2023, at 08:18, Gyle McCollam  wrote:

No Mark, it is not a bug.  If you made credit card purchases and subsequent 
payments to that card, those transactions have already been made and if you 
were to delete an account and the transaction within, it would be the same as 
if the transactions had never happened and they did.  Gnucash, offering to move 
them to another account is the only way not to screw up all the account 
affected by the account you are deleting.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on behalf of 
Mark via gnucash-user 
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 11:04 AM
To: Maf. King 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Transaction inconsistency when deleting account


Sep 5, 2023 08:33:44 Maf. King :


I just tried deleting an account.   As expected, I was presented with the
choice to "move transactions to..." or "Delete all transactions" (see
screenshot - this is GC 4.x, maybe the wording is different in v5)

Deleting the transactions does not really seem to delete anything, the
transaction splits effectively moved to Imbalance-GBP.

One could argue that "splits" in the deleted account have been deleted, and
GC has auto-created new splits to the Imbalance account - I don't know what
the internal process is- but it "feels" to the end user like a move, not a
delete.

Given a "transaction" is a collection of "at least 2 splits",  then I think I
agree with the OP, (whatever the validity of the reason for wanting to delete
an account), being told that "transactions" will be deleted and them still
existing seems a bug (maybe only in wording in the dialog box)

Ah, it's been a while since I deleted an account, and I don't remember the 
option to delete all transactions being there (maybe I just forgot). I agree 
that is confusing at least, and maybe a bug.

I don't think I would ever use that option, though. That seems like a confusing 
side effect to have transactions deleted by deleting an account. Maybe I'm just 
used to the way GnuCash has done things.
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Re: [GNC] CSV Import

2023-08-24 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I presume that you will not have 100s of expense accounts.  You would 
have to do the mapping once per code word.  Just once.


On 8/24/23 16:21, jackielou wong wrote:
You mean ill do it manual for 100s transaction. Is that correct? How 
can i transfer in fastest way


On Fri, Aug 25, 2023, 7:01 AM Stephen M. Butler  wrote:

I have used the CSV importer several times to great advantage.  At a
minimum you need the following columns:

1.  Date -- be sure that you set the importer to the date format you
used.  I use MM/DD/.
2.  Description -- What you want in the transaction description.
3.  Account Code -- Something that will uniquely identify the "other
account".  I tend to use 3-4 character (sometime just 2) codes
easy for
me to remember.  These will get mapped (by you) to the real GnC
account
during the import process.
4.  Amount -- I sometimes have to specify that this is a negative
amount
(even though the file has positive values).

During the import you will have to specify the base account. This
will
be the checking account.  This is a field on the import screen --
not in
your file.
At some point you will map the above fields to tell the imported
which
one is the date, which one is the Other Account, which one is the
description and which one is the amount (or negative amount).

Test this out in a test environment first.

Save all your mapping to a file name so you can pull it back up
for real
(or for future use).  It is there on the setup screen.

At some point you will have the setup all done and will go NEXT.  At
this point it will list all the codes you used and ask you to map
those
to the real accounts (I presume expenses).

Good luck.

On 8/24/23 15:00, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:
> On 2023-08-24 14:15, jackielou wong wrote:
>> I have 500 transactions under checking account for importing
files... how
>> can i put this all in linked accounts...
>>
>> Everytime i do that they fall to imbalance usd.. can you help
to fix it. So
> Jackielou,
>
> This suggestion may seem inefficient, but I think you might get
the job
> done faster by just entering the 500 transactions manually, which I
> imagine you know how to do.
>
> I've never done an import myself, but as I understand it you have to
> teach GnuCash to recognize transactions the way you want. That takes
> time, which you could be using to enter transactions right into
GC, a
> process I assume you are comfortable with. And 500 is really not
many.
>
> That's what I did in early 2018 when I converted my 2011-2017
data to
> GC. It was over 15,000 transactions, but once I got going it
went very
> quickly. Sure, I had to deal with each transaction individually,
but I
> would have had to check each one anyway if I had tried an
import. And
> along the way, I noticed inconsistencies in how I had treated
similar
> events, and fixed them. For me, at least, the process was less
painful
> than spending a lot of time learning and tinkering with a batch
import
> process that I would probably never need to use again.
>
> If you still want to pursue importing, I think it would be
helpful if
> you could be a lot more specific about what process you are
following,
> what results you see in GC, and what error message you get (if any).
> Maybe import _one_ transaction, and provide that information?
>
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com/ <https://BrownMath.com/>
>

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Re: [GNC] CSV Import

2023-08-24 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I have used the CSV importer several times to great advantage.  At a 
minimum you need the following columns:


1.  Date -- be sure that you set the importer to the date format you 
used.  I use MM/DD/.

2.  Description -- What you want in the transaction description.
3.  Account Code -- Something that will uniquely identify the "other 
account".  I tend to use 3-4 character (sometime just 2) codes easy for 
me to remember.  These will get mapped (by you) to the real GnC account 
during the import process.
4.  Amount -- I sometimes have to specify that this is a negative amount 
(even though the file has positive values).


During the import you will have to specify the base account.  This will 
be the checking account.  This is a field on the import screen -- not in 
your file.
At some point you will map the above fields to tell the imported which 
one is the date, which one is the Other Account, which one is the 
description and which one is the amount (or negative amount).


Test this out in a test environment first.

Save all your mapping to a file name so you can pull it back up for real 
(or for future use).  It is there on the setup screen.


At some point you will have the setup all done and will go NEXT.  At 
this point it will list all the codes you used and ask you to map those 
to the real accounts (I presume expenses).


Good luck.

On 8/24/23 15:00, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:

On 2023-08-24 14:15, jackielou wong wrote:

I have 500 transactions under checking account for importing files... how
can i put this all in linked accounts...

Everytime i do that they fall to imbalance usd.. can you help to fix it. So

Jackielou,

This suggestion may seem inefficient, but I think you might get the job
done faster by just entering the 500 transactions manually, which I
imagine you know how to do.

I've never done an import myself, but as I understand it you have to
teach GnuCash to recognize transactions the way you want. That takes
time, which you could be using to enter transactions right into GC, a
process I assume you are comfortable with. And 500 is really not many.

That's what I did in early 2018 when I converted my 2011-2017 data to
GC. It was over 15,000 transactions, but once I got going it went very
quickly. Sure, I had to deal with each transaction individually, but I
would have had to check each one anyway if I had tried an import. And
along the way, I noticed inconsistencies in how I had treated similar
events, and fixed them. For me, at least, the process was less painful
than spending a lot of time learning and tinkering with a batch import
process that I would probably never need to use again.

If you still want to pursue importing, I think it would be helpful if
you could be a lot more specific about what process you are following,
what results you see in GC, and what error message you get (if any).
Maybe import _one_ transaction, and provide that information?

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com/



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Re: [GNC] Sort Transactions in Alphabetical Order, For Entering Expense Category (Account)

2023-08-13 Thread Stephen M. Butler
See if your bank or CC company offers download in OFX format.  In a 
couple of cases I've been forced to use CSV format.  In both cases use 
small batches at first to train the matcher so it learns what 
transactions go to which accounts.


Note that with the CSV you will need to save the format layout for 
future use so you don't have to setup the layout each time.


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On 8/13/23 07:13, Tom Balazs wrote:

I'm importing a large number of transactions into GnuCash. I want to speed
up entering the expense category (account) of transactions, especially for
credit card transactions. (I know these are called accounts in GnuCash, but
I mean "account" like "auto expenses", and "home repair expenses", not
"account" like "Credit Card #1", and "Checking Account #1".)

There are two ways I could do that:
 1. Create a column for account in the CSV file (exported from the
bank's site), sort by payee name and enter account (expense category).
Important, I need this to conform to the expense categories I created in
GnuCash; I don't want GnuCash to automatically create new expense
categories with the expense. That could lead to small typos creating new
categories; e.g. "auto repair" and "auto rpeair".
 2. Or I want to import all the transactions, and then in GnuCash sort
by payee name, and then add expense category to 10-15 transactions at a
time.

How can I do that?
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction - Loan Amortization

2023-07-26 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Not sure how GnC does it.  I do nothing.

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On 7/26/23 12:12, Gyle McCollam wrote:

Stephen,
How does Gnucash update the "i" value each month or do you have to do 
that manually?



Thank You,

*Gyle McCollam*

Gyle McCollam

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*From:* gnucash-user 
 on behalf of 
Stephen M. Butler 

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2023 2:20 PM
*To:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
*Subject:* Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction - Loan Amortization
Here are the entries (3 splits) I use on my scheduled transaction:

Split 1:    Assets:Checking:xxx    Credit -- $326.97 (payment
comes from checking account)
Split 2:    Liabilities:Loans:yyy Debit -- 326.97 - ipmt( .04490
/ 12.00 : i -2: 240.00 : 51,630.34 : 0 : 0 )
Split 3:   Expense:Interest Paid  Debit -- ipmt( .04490 / 12.00 : i
-2: 240.00 : 51,630.34 : 0 : 0 )

             Notes:  .04490/12 is the monthly interest
                     i-2 is the month number (found that
adjusting by 2 months gave me numbers that matched the bank much better
-- try with just i)
                         240 is the total number of months for loan
(20 yrs -- RV)
                         51,630.34 is the original loan amount


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On 7/26/23 07:09, Derek Atkins wrote:
> There are pmt, ppmt, and ipmt functions.
> -derek
> Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
> On July 25, 2023 15:41:01 Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
>> Is there a formula I can enter in SX that will automatically
>> calculate the principal or interest payment on a car loan?  Then is
>> there a way to deduct that from the total payment to get the other
>> value, other than TOTAL PAYMENT-the formula used above?
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Gyle McCollam
>>
>> Gyle McCollam
>>
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction - Loan Amortization

2023-07-26 Thread Stephen M. Butler
GnC appears to keep track of the number of months and updates it without 
any intervention on my end.


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On 7/26/23 12:11, Gyle McCollam wrote:
How does Gnucash update the "i" value each month or do you have to 
adjust manually?


Thank You,

*Gyle McCollam*

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*From:* gnucash-user 
 on behalf of 
Stephen M. Butler 

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2023 2:20 PM
*To:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
*Subject:* Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction - Loan Amortization
Here are the entries (3 splits) I use on my scheduled transaction:

Split 1:    Assets:Checking:xxx    Credit -- $326.97 (payment
comes from checking account)
Split 2:    Liabilities:Loans:yyy Debit -- 326.97 - ipmt( .04490
/ 12.00 : i -2: 240.00 : 51,630.34 : 0 : 0 )
Split 3:   Expense:Interest Paid  Debit -- ipmt( .04490 / 12.00 : i
-2: 240.00 : 51,630.34 : 0 : 0 )

             Notes:  .04490/12 is the monthly interest
                     i-2 is the month number (found that
adjusting by 2 months gave me numbers that matched the bank much better
-- try with just i)
                         240 is the total number of months for loan
(20 yrs -- RV)
                         51,630.34 is the original loan amount


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On 7/26/23 07:09, Derek Atkins wrote:
> There are pmt, ppmt, and ipmt functions.
> -derek
> Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
> On July 25, 2023 15:41:01 Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
>> Is there a formula I can enter in SX that will automatically
>> calculate the principal or interest payment on a car loan?  Then is
>> there a way to deduct that from the total payment to get the other
>> value, other than TOTAL PAYMENT-the formula used above?
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Gyle McCollam
>>
>> Gyle McCollam
>>
>> gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com 
<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com>> email

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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction - Loan Amortization

2023-07-26 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Here are the entries (3 splits) I use on my scheduled transaction:

Split 1:    Assets:Checking:xxx    Credit -- $326.97   (payment 
comes from checking account)
Split 2:    Liabilities:Loans:yyy Debit -- 326.97 - ipmt( .04490 
/ 12.00 : i -2: 240.00 : 51,630.34 : 0 : 0 )
Split 3:   Expense:Interest Paid  Debit -- ipmt( .04490 / 12.00 : i 
-2: 240.00 : 51,630.34 : 0 : 0 )


                Notes:  .04490/12 is the monthly interest
                        i-2 is the month number (found that 
adjusting by 2 months gave me numbers that matched the bank much better 
-- try with just i)
                            240 is the total number of months for loan 
(20 yrs -- RV)

                            51,630.34 is the original loan amount


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On 7/26/23 07:09, Derek Atkins wrote:

There are pmt, ppmt, and ipmt functions.
-derek
Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
On July 25, 2023 15:41:01 Gyle McCollam  wrote:

Is there a formula I can enter in SX that will automatically 
calculate the principal or interest payment on a car loan?  Then is 
there a way to deduct that from the total payment to get the other 
value, other than TOTAL PAYMENT-the formula used  above?



Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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Re: [GNC] Online Banking Setup

2023-07-16 Thread John M. Thornton
Jim,

Thanks for your response and with what I have tried in the past which was a
lot of what you mentioned,  it just looks like to me it's not worth the
effort with no guarantees it will work.

I will continue the manual entry along with using the QIF / OFX downloads
from my financial institutions.

Cheers,

John

John
Sent from Gmail for Android

On Sun, Jul 16, 2023, 19:12 Jim DeLaHunt  wrote:

> Hello, John, and welcome to GnuCash!
>
> On 2023-07-16 15:39, John M. Thornton wrote:
>
> > Good afternoon,
> >
> > I just wanted to inquire if anybody is able to use the Online Banking
> Setup
> > with Gnucash and how easy it was to set up within North America.  I
> > have tried to follow some wiki information and also looked at the setup
> for
> > my banks but it just doesn't seem to work.  I am able to download either
> > QIF or OFX files and do that, just was looking for something maybe a
> little
> > easier similar to how Quicken used to do it.
> >
> > I am using Windows 11, GnuCash 5.3 for reference
>
> I am guessing that want to use Online Banking itself, and the Online
> Banking Setup is just a necessary step in preparation. The term I use
> for this interaction is OFXDirectConnect, which is the name of the
> protocol which actually does the information exchange.  If you have not
> already read the wiki page,
> <https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Setting_up_OFXDirectConnect>, I recommend
> it to you.
>
> Yes, I have used Online Banking via OFXDirectConnect for some banks and
> credit cards in the USA and Canada in the past. I no longer use it,
> because entering my transactions manually works better for me.
>
> My experience is that how easy or difficult it is to set up
> OFXDirectConnect is entirely a function of the bank or credit card
> company. Most don't bother to offer the service. Those that do, tend to
> offer it in idiosyncratic ways which require you to figure out what
> combinations of settings will be just right let the connection work.
> And, they tend not to describe what they require very well.
>
> The web site OFX Home <https://www.ofxhome.com/> lists the required
> connection settings for some 300 banks and companies. If that company to
> which you want to connect is described there, correctly, then setting up
> a connection is easier. If it is not there, then it will probably be
> difficult to figure out.
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> Best regards,
> —Jim DeLaHunt
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[GNC] Online Banking Setup

2023-07-16 Thread John M. Thornton
Good afternoon,

I just wanted to inquire if anybody is able to use the Online Banking Setup
with Gnucash and how easy it was to set up within North America.  I
have tried to follow some wiki information and also looked at the setup for
my banks but it just doesn't seem to work.  I am able to download either
QIF or OFX files and do that, just was looking for something maybe a little
easier similar to how Quicken used to do it.

I am using Windows 11, GnuCash 5.3 for reference
Regards,

John M Thornton
Lee's Summit, MO
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Re: [GNC] Two Instances as opposed to two separate files

2023-07-14 Thread Stephen M. Butler

I saw this in an email exchange a few years back that can be summarized as:

A3: Then you get email chains like this.

Q3: But I prefer to top post to see what was entered last!


A2: So the response makes sense after reading the relevant question.

Q2: Why bottom post?


A1: Please use bottom posting.

Q1: Do we top or bottom post?



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On 7/14/23 17:56, R Losey wrote:

Is there really a convention for replies? Gmail puts my replies at the top
by default (like this), but if they are supposed to be at the bottom, I can
pretty easily do that as well. But I haven't seen a FAQ or heard that this
is a convention.


On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 6:50 AM Paul Feakins  wrote:


With a mailing list such as this, I believe the convention is to put
replies at the bottom?


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Re: [GNC] Window/Mac Summary Box difference

2023-07-13 Thread Stephen M. Butler
So I deleted those two transactions and Profits stayed at zero. Ended up 
quitting with saving.  On startup again the Profit was back and correct.


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On 7/13/23 15:19, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

Based on some experimentation, I suspect:

1.  Grand Total should always be zero (blank).  If ever non-zero it 
means you have an out-of-balance transaction (maybe more than one) 
somewhere.


2.  Net Assets appears to be Assets - Liabilities + Income - 
Expenses.  So, Total Equity including retained earnings/losses.


3.  Profits appear to be Income - Expenses for the current year.

Yes, I do Close the Books each year.  So, I deleted the 2022 entries 
to see if that affected Profits.  It did not.  But it sure changed the 
retained earning on the Balance sheet!


This does not explain why the figures are different on other boxes. I 
have a hard time thinking that the system date on those boxes isn't 
2023!!


That last statement caused me to try setting the Accounting Period 
Preference to an absolute date of 1/1/2019 - 12/31/2019.  My Profit 
went to zero.  The Net Assets is not the same as the Balance Sheet 
shows for 2019.  It was low by $3,544.00.


I changed the Accounting Period Preference to an absolute date of 
1/1/2023 - 12/31/2023 and saw the same (correct) figures as when set 
for a relative period for start/end of current year.


Finally, I closed the books for 2023 (no worries, only 2 transactions 
to delete to reverse that) and saw Profits going to zero.  It left Net 
Assets alone.


--Steve


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On 7/13/23 13:43, David H wrote:

My Grand Total always just shows as "$, Grand Total:" - hasn't had an
amount in it forever so I just ignore these figures anyway as they're 
quite
meaningless to me :-)  There's a dropdown arrow on the right hand 
side that

you can use to expand the items on that line - shows entries for each
currency etc.  Click on the summary line once, sometimes twice 
(flaky), and
it will also expand the summary row in situ.  On mac os you can also 
double

click the summary line and it opens part way up the screen - it's a bit
flaky the way it does it tho - click somewhere else to close it again.

Cheers David H.

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 01:10, David Carlson 


wrote:


Neil,

If you scroll down in the summary box you will see additional rows
identified by the currencies and securities in that file, if any exist.
Perhaps that would lead to an account and one or more transactions that
contain an incomplete closing transaction where some asset or 
liability was
exchanged without accounting for the loss or gain.  I too have no 
idea how

those numbers are calculated, so I cannot be more specific.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 9:35 AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:


I'm not sure exactly how those numbers are calculated and I've never
relied on them.

Perhaps a Balance Sheet would work better. You'd only need to know the
headline numbers:

Total Assets
Total Liabilities
Total Equity

(perhaps, Retained Earnings/Losses, if you like, though that is 
part of

the Equity section)

Regards,
Adrien

On 7/13/23 6:33 AM, Neil Campbell wrote:

I help a friend with their monthly accounting. She has GNUCash

installed
on a PC. I have GNUCash installed on a Mac mini M1 computer. She 
does the

input. I do the month end transactions and check her input. So we send
GNUCash data files backwards and forwards. The way I identify the 
file I
have sent her is to give her the Summary Box values. She must agree 
this

before starting her new month’s input.

This worked well until, for no apparent reason, these figures don’t

match any more.

My Mac mini M1 shows:
Net Assets £9,115.89    Profits £3,075.18
Using the same file that I emailed her, her PC Shows:
Net Assets £9,115.89    Profits £0.00

So I realised that there must be a Preference not set by her.

I downloaded and installed GNUCash on my wife’s PC to see how I could
correct the error. I changed the Setting Accounting period dates to 
the

correct ones. So, on my wife’s PC I have:

Net Assets £9,115.89    Profits £8,803.24
It’s still not right and the Profit figure is now in red.

I now have 3 different Profit Figures, but I cannot find any place on
the Windows version to check why there are these differences, 
because I
don’t know where this Profit figure comes from. The correct figures 
are

the

ones on my Mac mini M1 above.

I must be missing something. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [GNC] Window/Mac Summary Box difference

2023-07-13 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Based on some experimentation, I suspect:

1.  Grand Total should always be zero (blank).  If ever non-zero it 
means you have an out-of-balance transaction (maybe more than one) 
somewhere.


2.  Net Assets appears to be Assets - Liabilities + Income - Expenses.  
So, Total Equity including retained earnings/losses.


3.  Profits appear to be Income - Expenses for the current year.

Yes, I do Close the Books each year.  So, I deleted the 2022 entries to 
see if that affected Profits.  It did not.  But it sure changed the 
retained earning on the Balance sheet!


This does not explain why the figures are different on other boxes. I 
have a hard time thinking that the system date on those boxes isn't 2023!!


That last statement caused me to try setting the Accounting Period 
Preference to an absolute date of 1/1/2019 - 12/31/2019.  My Profit went 
to zero.  The Net Assets is not the same as the Balance Sheet shows for 
2019.  It was low by $3,544.00.


I changed the Accounting Period Preference to an absolute date of 
1/1/2023 - 12/31/2023 and saw the same (correct) figures as when set for 
a relative period for start/end of current year.


Finally, I closed the books for 2023 (no worries, only 2 transactions to 
delete to reverse that) and saw Profits going to zero.  It left Net 
Assets alone.


--Steve


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On 7/13/23 13:43, David H wrote:

My Grand Total always just shows as "$, Grand Total:" - hasn't had an
amount in it forever so I just ignore these figures anyway as they're quite
meaningless to me :-)  There's a dropdown arrow on the right hand side that
you can use to expand the items on that line - shows entries for each
currency etc.  Click on the summary line once, sometimes twice (flaky), and
it will also expand the summary row in situ.  On mac os you can also double
click the summary line and it opens part way up the screen - it's a bit
flaky the way it does it tho - click somewhere else to close it again.

Cheers David H.

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 01:10, David Carlson 
wrote:


Neil,

If you scroll down in the summary box you will see additional rows
identified by the currencies and securities in that file, if any exist.
Perhaps that would lead to an account and one or more transactions that
contain an incomplete closing transaction where some asset or liability was
exchanged without accounting for the loss or gain.  I too have no idea how
those numbers are calculated, so I cannot be more specific.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 9:35 AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:


I'm not sure exactly how those numbers are calculated and I've never
relied on them.

Perhaps a Balance Sheet would work better. You'd only need to know the
headline numbers:

Total Assets
Total Liabilities
Total Equity

(perhaps, Retained Earnings/Losses, if you like, though that is part of
the Equity section)

Regards,
Adrien

On 7/13/23 6:33 AM, Neil Campbell wrote:

I help a friend with their monthly accounting. She has GNUCash

installed

on a PC. I have GNUCash installed on a Mac mini M1 computer. She does the
input. I do the month end transactions and check her input. So we send
GNUCash data files backwards and forwards. The way I identify the file I
have sent her is to give her the Summary Box values. She must agree this
before starting her new month’s input.

This worked well until, for no apparent reason, these figures don’t

match any more.

My Mac mini M1 shows:
Net Assets £9,115.89Profits £3,075.18
Using the same file that I emailed her, her PC Shows:
Net Assets £9,115.89Profits £0.00

So I realised that there must be a Preference not set by her.

I downloaded and installed GNUCash on my wife’s PC to see how I could

correct the error. I changed the Setting Accounting period dates to the
correct ones. So, on my wife’s PC I have:

Net Assets £9,115.89Profits £8,803.24
It’s still not right and the Profit figure is now in red.

I now have 3 different Profit Figures, but I cannot find any place on

the Windows version to check why there are these differences, because I
don’t know where this Profit figure comes from. The correct figures are

the

ones on my Mac mini M1 above.

I must be missing something. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [GNC] Gun shy?

2023-06-27 Thread Stephen M. Butler

I'm running Build ID: git 5.3-12-gaba64c9762+(2023-06-26)

On 6/27/23 10:38, R Losey wrote:

(Heh) I wonder if we are all gun shy about downloading and installing
GnuCash 5.3; I haven't seen anyone on this list say that they have used it
and it is fine.





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Re: [GNC] gnucash - Can't Save file

2023-06-27 Thread Stephen M. Butler




On 6/27/23 7:34 AM, Neil Campbell wrote:
 Unfortunately overnight my computer (Apple Mini M1) rebooted for some 
unknown reason and I lost it all anyway.


Can you replay the logs and apply those changes?
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 5.2 not able to save

2023-06-26 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Yup.  Been all over the distribution list.  Options:
1.  Upgrade to 5.3
2.  Turn off file compression.
3.  Save to database instead of XML


On 6/26/23 02:14, Robert Spring wrote:

Hi

I have just upgraded to 5.2.1 and followed the usual procedure that I have done 
many times.

I am running on Mac OS Ventura on an M2 Mac Mini.

All went well but I cant save anything.

Message is:


Any idea how to solve this permissions issue?

Robert Spring
b...@wspring.co.uk



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Re: [GNC] gnucash - Can't Save file

2023-06-26 Thread Stephen M. Butler

If you turn off compression, you will be able to save the file.

Also, I have pulled down the first 9 patches to 5.2 and can verify that 
on my Ubuntu box the file save to a compressed file does work.


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On 6/26/23 09:42, Neil Campbell wrote:

The bug has been reported.  Gnucash can't save to a compressed file, the fix is 
due any day now.  However, 5.1 work fine if you want to upgrade now.

Really? Please tell me how I can recover over 2 hours of work on GnuCash ver 
5.2? I mean, is there any way I can recover my changes/input which I will lose 
if I now go back to ver 5.1? I am in limbo at present.

Neil Campbell



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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:34:06 +
From: Gyle McCollam 
To: Ira Fuchs , Gnucash 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Upgraded to v5.2- now can't save
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

The bug has been reported.  Gnucash can't save to a compressed file, the fix is 
due any day now.  However, 5.1 work fine if you want to upgrade now.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on behalf of 
Ira Fuchs 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 8:19 AM
To: Gnucash 
Subject: [GNC] Upgraded to v5.2- now can't save

I just upgraded to v5.2 and I can no longer save changes. I get this error:

Could not write to file /Users/if/Documents/GnuCash folder/ 
gnucash_transactions.gnucash.20181105195638.gnucash.
20211205203910.gnucash. Check that you have permission to write to this file 
and that there is sufficient space to create it.

I have gone back to v4.13.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:31:18 -0400
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To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Problem saving data file in GNUcash 5.2
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On 6/26/2023 8:23 AM, geoff.accou...@70torcavenue.net wrote:

Today updated to version 5.2 but now unable to save any changes to my entry
stating that I do not have any permissions to do so.  Have tried changing
location to another folder on the C:\ drive and also an external drive but
does not work.



I do have full permissions and have since saved non-GNUcash files to these
locations.


Sort of general advice for any help list (not specific to gnucash)

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you have and are receiving answers about it. If so, these is no need to
add your plea for help to all the others. Not particularly helpful.

Yes, there is a problem with 5.2

Yes there are suggestion about what to do

Michael D Novack




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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:41:14 -0700
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Subject: [GNC] Advice before posting a problem (was: Problem saving
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On 2023-06-26 08:31, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:


Sort of general advice for any help list (not specific to gnucash)

Whenever you have a problem, before posting your request for help, LOOK
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if there have been

Re: [GNC] How to edit pop-up menu when typing transaction descriptions

2023-06-06 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I like the new method.  But from the comments so far, I think there may 
be a couple option for an enhancement request.


1.  Have a preference setting for account matching on transaction entry 
where the user could set:

        A.  Contains; or,
        B.  Leads with
        [C.  Some may want Trails with]
        [[D.  Perhaps a Match Case option]]

2.  Another preference box for how many days back the user wants to 
match.  Blank entry would be ALL.  Zero would turn the matching off and 
XX days could be set to any number between 1 and some arbitrarily large 
number.  But I think the useful ones would be 30, 60, 90, 180, 360, ALL


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On 6/6/23 07:32, David Carlson wrote:

The problem with the solution that Adrien suggests is that there is a real
possibility that the existing descriptions may be correct for existing
transactions but inappropriate for new transactions.  I think there is no
solution as long as the current method is used to populate the list, so we
must live with it.

On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 9:23 AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:


This list is populated from the descriptions used in every transaction -
in that register.

If there are some entries that are errant (such as misspellings) or
variant for the same entity (like a Payee, store name, etc.) the only
way to correct these is to change those descriptions you don't want to
those you do.

The easiest way to do this would be to do a Find for the description you
want to change, which will give you a list of transactions using it.
Then, as you correct them one-by-one, they'll disappear from the search
results and when the results register is empty, it will no longer appear
in the drop down list in account registers which are affected by those
transactions.

Regards,
Adrien

On 6/5/23 11:00 PM, Sebastian Aguilar wrote:

When I type in the description of a transaction, a pop-up menu of

previous entries appears. Is there a way to edit this menu? Sometimes it
feels more cumbersome than helpful.

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Re: [GNC] Building 5.1 on Ubuntu 22.04

2023-05-30 Thread M

Oh my gosh, I can't believe I did this.

I am indeed running 20.04.  I never upgraded this machine.

Thanks for the quick response... I'll pay closer attention next time!

Thanks,

Mike

On 5/30/23 14:26, Vincent Dawans wrote:
Just FYI It's some of the aqbanking packages that have to be renamed 
since the instructions on 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Installing_Dependencies. However 
gwenhywfar-toolsis still the same.


For ubuntu 22.04 it should be:
sudo apt install aqbanking-tools libaqbanking-dev
sudo apt install gwenhywfar-tools libgwenhywfar79 libgwenhywfar-core-dev
sudo apt install libgwengui-gtk3-79 libgwengui-gtk3-dev

For your problem, make sure to run cat /etc/lsb-release to confirm you 
are using 22.04 and cat /etc/apt/sources.list to see which reposiories 
you are pointing to (jammy for 22.04, focal for 20.04).




On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:08 AM Vincent Dawans  wrote:

Something is definitely off with your package manager. I am on
ubuntu 22.04 as well and I have gwenhywfar-tools version 5.9.0-1
It's also the version reported on

https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/22.04/ubuntu-universe-amd64/gwenhywfar-tools_5.9.0-1_amd64.deb.html

Version 5.1.3 is the one reported for 20.04. So are you sure you
are on 22.04? If so then somehow your package manager is still
pointing to 20.04 repositories.

https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/20.04/ubuntu-universe-amd64/gwenhywfar-tools_5.1.3-1build1_amd64.deb.html

I am able to build with no problem. I think the only changes were
in installing a couple of packages shown on the wiki page where
the old name has changed, but that was obvious as it failed when
installing.

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 10:54 AM M  wrote:

I am trying to build gnucash 5.1 on Ubuntu 22.04, if thats
possible.

I have run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and everything
is up to date.
I have run sudo apt build-dep gnucash, and receive:
   0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

When running cmake, I get the following error:
   Requested 'gwenhywfar >= 5.6.0' but version of gwenhywfar
is 5.1.3

Any idea how to install this update on Ubuntu 22.04?
When I run
   sudo apt-get install gwenhywfar-tools
I get
   gwenhywfar-tools is already the newest version (5.1.3-1build1)

Is there any way to get the newer package on Ubuntu 22.04?

Thanks,

Mike

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[GNC] Building 5.1 on Ubuntu 22.04

2023-05-30 Thread M

I am trying to build gnucash 5.1 on Ubuntu 22.04, if thats possible.

I have run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and everything is up to date.
I have run sudo apt build-dep gnucash, and receive:
  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

When running cmake, I get the following error:
  Requested 'gwenhywfar >= 5.6.0' but version of gwenhywfar is 5.1.3

Any idea how to install this update on Ubuntu 22.04?
When I run
  sudo apt-get install gwenhywfar-tools
I get
  gwenhywfar-tools is already the newest version (5.1.3-1build1)

Is there any way to get the newer package on Ubuntu 22.04?

Thanks,

Mike

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Re: [GNC] cost of goods sold, unsold inventory

2023-05-21 Thread Stephen M. Butler
For my inventory I assign a cost per unit (looks like yours is 
$100/unit).  That is a valid "expense" and can show up either as an 
expense item or as a reduction of sales.  I assigned mine as a reduction 
against sales (sub-account called COGS).  The other side of that entry 
is against inventory.


So for you, initially your inventory had $1000 in it (an asset 
account).  Each time you make a sale for $140 you also book a 
transaction to COGS of $100 with a reduction against inventory of $100.


After six units sold your inventory should show $400 balance.

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On 5/21/23 16:26, Jamie Tolbert wrote:
I am slowly wrapping my head around things, kinda stuck on a question 
about accounting for unsold inventory. Say I bought 10 widgets, for 
100 each, my cost of good sold is 1000; I sold 6 for 140 each. My 
sales is 840, but my cost of good sold is only 600, not 1000, How do I 
account for the 4 remaining in inventory.

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[GNC] Ubuntu 23.04 upgrade and GnuCash

2023-04-20 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Just upgraded to Ubuntu 23.04 from 22.10.  GnuCash is now complaining 
that libicuuc.so.71 can't be found.


I had done a git pull a few days ago and build 5.0-77.  That worked 
great until upgraded Ubuntu to 23.04 this morning.  I did a git pull 
this afternoon and see that 5.0-84 is the current patch level.


Uninstalled the -77 build and installed the -84 build.  It appears to be 
working again.


Just an FYI in case you build on your box and then upgrade.

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Re: [GNC] CSV import crash in 5.0+

2023-04-20 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I have been running 5.0.77 on Ubuntu and importing CSV transactions 
without problems.  So this may be tied to Windows.



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On 4/20/23 06:52, Joseph Vernice wrote:

I am using the nightly build 5.0.77 on Windows 11.  Ever since upgrading to
5.0 (and above nightly builds) I am unable to import transactions from
CSV.  The system crashes when I select the CSV import profile or when I try
to create a new one.  The crash accors immediately after selecting the
profile OR after assigning the AMOUNT column. I have resorted to the latest
pre-5.0 build in order to import from CSV.  Unfortunately, my Fidelity
checking account only allows for CSV export, so this is an essential means
for me to import into gnucash. Thank you everyone for all your help.
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Re: [GNC] Building 5.0 on Ubuntu 18.04

2023-03-29 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Oh, forgot one minor detail.  I did a "git pull" on my gnucash git clone 
and then attempted to apply the commands that John posted a few messages 
back.  Didn't work as expected so I did the extreme and blew my clone 
away and redid it from github.


Then compiled from the most recent patch: 5.0-5-g77cb9c6af4+(2023-03-27)
That may explain why my compiles work.

--Steve

On 3/29/23 16:39, Stephen M. Butler wrote:

It might be easier to upgrade Ubuntu!  I am at 22.10.

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On 3/29/23 15:39, Tom Weichmann wrote:

So I took a guess and thought that since the README.dependencies doc
required GCC 8.0 that it may also require g++ 8.  Ubuntu 18.04 has 
several
versions available including 6, 7 and 8.  I had them all installed 
but gcc
was linked to gcc7 and g++ was linked to g++7.  I had already changed 
the

link for gcc to gcc-8 but hadn't yet for g++ since the
README.dependencies didn't mentions g++.  However looking at the logs 
I saw

some mentions of c++ 7, so I changed my links in /usr/bin for g++ to now
link to g++-8.

My build got much further, however failed again at a new point:

https://pastebin.com/rAuYe1DM



On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 6:14 PM Tom Weichmann  
wrote:



Hi John,

Thanks for the reply.  Yes, the README.dependencies does state:
Libraries/Deps
--
   required  Version
     ___
   cmake 3.10    Build system manager

and I do have 3.10 installed as you suspected.

% cmake --version
cmake version 3.10.2

So, I downloaded, built and installed cmake 3.11 into my /usr/local and
can confirm that I can now complete the cmake operation in the build
process.  Since Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is now 5 years old and is going EOL 
next
month I'd say it's safe to just bump your cmake requirements to 
3.11.  It

looks like 3.11 was released 5 years ago already, but I don't know what
other major distros are on.

However, that being fixed, I am now running into issues building.
Pastebin here:

https://pastebin.com/tBDW6XeY

Any ideas what is going on here?


On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 5:51 PM john  wrote:


Ubuntu's 18.04's Cmake is too old. target_compile_definitions for
imported modules was introduced in Cmake 3.11 and Ubuntu 18.04 has 
3,10.1.


Our currently advertised minimum cmake *is* 3.10, but we didn't 
bump it

for 5.0 and we usually do. I'm inclined to bump the minimum Cmake
instead of going back got `pkg_check_modules`.

Regards,
John Ralls


On Mar 29, 2023, at 11:57 AM, Tom Weichmann 

wrote:

Hi All,

I'm still running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS which is still supported by Ubuntu
albeit a bit old.  I've been happily building all of the 4.x versions

from
source since the latest is not in this distro's repositories.  Now 
i'm
trying to build version 5,0 and I'm running into a failure with 
cmake:


---
~/dev/build-gnucash-5.0
% cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local ../gnucash-5.0
-- The C compiler identification is GNU 8.4.0
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU 7.5.0
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting C compile features
-- Detecting C compile features - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting CXX compile features
-- Detecting CXX compile features - done
-- Found UnixCommands: /bin/bash
-- Looking for pthread.h
-- Looking for pthread.h - found
-- Looking for pthread_create
-- Looking for pthread_create - not found
-- Looking for pthread_create in pthreads
-- Looking for pthread_create in pthreads - not found
-- Looking for pthread_create in pthread
-- Looking for pthread_create in pthread - found
-- Found Threads: TRUE
-- Found PkgConfig: /usr/bin/pkg-config (found version "0.29.1")
-- Checking for module 'glib-2.0>=2.56.1'
--   Found glib-2.0, version 2.56.4
-- Checking for module 'gio-2.0'
--   Found gio-2.0, version 2.56.4
-- Checking for module 'gobject-2.0'
--   Found gobject-2.0, version 2.56.4
-- Checking for module 'gmodule-2.0'
--   Found gmodule-2.0, version 2.56.4
-- Checking for module 'gthread-2.0'
--   Found gthread-2.0, version 2.56.4
-- Checking for module 'libxml-2.0>=2.9.4'
--   Found libxml-2.0, version 2.9.4
-- Checking for module 'libxslt'
--   Found libxslt, version 1.1.29
-- Checking for module 'webkit2gtk-4.0>=2.14.0'
--   Found webkit2gtk-4.0, version 2.32.4
-- Checking for module 

Re: [GNC] Building 5.0 on Ubuntu 18.04

2023-03-29 Thread Stephen M. Butler

It might be easier to upgrade Ubuntu!  I am at 22.10.

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On 3/29/23 15:39, Tom Weichmann wrote:

So I took a guess and thought that since the README.dependencies doc
required GCC 8.0 that it may also require g++ 8.  Ubuntu 18.04 has several
versions available including 6, 7 and 8.  I had them all installed but gcc
was linked to gcc7 and g++ was linked to g++7.  I had already changed the
link for gcc to gcc-8 but hadn't yet for g++ since the
README.dependencies didn't mentions g++.  However looking at the logs I saw
some mentions of c++ 7, so I changed my links in /usr/bin for g++ to now
link to g++-8.

My build got much further, however failed again at a new point:

https://pastebin.com/rAuYe1DM



On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 6:14 PM Tom Weichmann  wrote:


Hi John,

Thanks for the reply.  Yes, the README.dependencies does state:
Libraries/Deps
--
   required  Version
     ___
   cmake 3.10Build system manager

and I do have 3.10 installed as you suspected.

% cmake --version
cmake version 3.10.2

So, I downloaded, built and installed cmake 3.11 into my /usr/local and
can confirm that I can now complete the cmake operation in the build
process.  Since Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is now 5 years old and is going EOL next
month I'd say it's safe to just bump your cmake requirements to 3.11.  It
looks like 3.11 was released 5 years ago already, but I don't know what
other major distros are on.

However, that being fixed, I am now running into issues building.
Pastebin here:

https://pastebin.com/tBDW6XeY

Any ideas what is going on here?


On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 5:51 PM john  wrote:


Ubuntu's 18.04's Cmake is too old. target_compile_definitions for
imported modules was introduced in Cmake 3.11 and Ubuntu 18.04 has 3,10.1.

Our currently advertised minimum cmake *is* 3.10, but we didn't bump it
for 5.0 and we usually do. I'm inclined to bump the minimum Cmake
instead of going back got `pkg_check_modules`.

Regards,
John Ralls


On Mar 29, 2023, at 11:57 AM, Tom Weichmann 

wrote:

Hi All,

I'm still running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS which is still supported by Ubuntu
albeit a bit old.  I've been happily building all of the 4.x versions

from

source since the latest is not in this distro's repositories.  Now i'm
trying to build version 5,0 and I'm running into a failure with cmake:

---
~/dev/build-gnucash-5.0
% cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local ../gnucash-5.0
-- The C compiler identification is GNU 8.4.0
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU 7.5.0
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting C compile features
-- Detecting C compile features - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting CXX compile features
-- Detecting CXX compile features - done
-- Found UnixCommands: /bin/bash
-- Looking for pthread.h
-- Looking for pthread.h - found
-- Looking for pthread_create
-- Looking for pthread_create - not found
-- Looking for pthread_create in pthreads
-- Looking for pthread_create in pthreads - not found
-- Looking for pthread_create in pthread
-- Looking for pthread_create in pthread - found
-- Found Threads: TRUE
-- Found PkgConfig: /usr/bin/pkg-config (found version "0.29.1")
-- Checking for module 'glib-2.0>=2.56.1'
--   Found glib-2.0, version 2.56.4
-- Checking for module 'gio-2.0'
--   Found gio-2.0, version 2.56.4
-- Checking for module 'gobject-2.0'
--   Found gobject-2.0, version 2.56.4
-- Checking for module 'gmodule-2.0'
--   Found gmodule-2.0, version 2.56.4
-- Checking for module 'gthread-2.0'
--   Found gthread-2.0, version 2.56.4
-- Checking for module 'libxml-2.0>=2.9.4'
--   Found libxml-2.0, version 2.9.4
-- Checking for module 'libxslt'
--   Found libxslt, version 1.1.29
-- Checking for module 'webkit2gtk-4.0>=2.14.0'
--   Found webkit2gtk-4.0, version 2.32.4
-- Checking for module 'gtk+-3.0>=3.22.30'
--   Found gtk+-3.0, version 3.22.30
-- Checking for module 'zlib'
--   Found zlib, version 1.2.11
-- Found Gettext: /usr/local/bin/msgmerge (found suitable version

"0.21.1",

minimum required is "0.19.6")
-- Found SWIG: /usr/bin/swig3.0 (found suitable version "3.0.12",

minimum

required is "3.0.12")
-- Using guile-2.2.x
-- Using guile SRFI-64
-- Using guile textual

Re: [GNC] Building 5.0 on Ubuntu 18.04

2023-03-29 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Tom,
Please respond via the list so everyone is included in the discussion.

On 3/29/23 12:37, Tom Weichmann wrote:

Hi Steven,

I also built on 22.04 (my laptop) successfully.

The README.dependencies in the source lists the following versions for 
GLIB2 and GTK3:


Libraries/Deps
--
  required              Version
                ___
  glib2                 2.56.1
  gtk+3                 3.22.30

I have the following for glib2
% apt list | grep libglib2
libglib2.0-0/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 
*2.56.4*-0ubuntu0.18.04.9 amd64 [installed,automatic]


This is what I have in 22.10
sudo apt list | grep libglib2
libglib2.0-0/kinetic-updates,now 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
libglib2.0-0/kinetic-updates,now 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 i386 [installed,automatic]
libglib2.0-bin/kinetic-updates,now 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
libglib2.0-bin/kinetic-updates 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 i386
libglib2.0-cil-dev/kinetic,now 2.12.40-3ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
libglib2.0-cil/kinetic,now 2.12.40-3ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
libglib2.0-data/kinetic-updates,kinetic-updates,now 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 all 
[installed]

libglib2.0-dev-bin/kinetic-updates,now 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
libglib2.0-dev-bin/kinetic-updates 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 i386
libglib2.0-dev/kinetic-updates,now 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
libglib2.0-dev/kinetic-updates 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 i386
libglib2.0-doc/kinetic-updates,kinetic-updates,now 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 all 
[installed]

libglib2.0-tests/kinetic-updates,now 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
libglib2.0-tests/kinetic-updates 2.74.3-0ubuntu1 i386



For GTK3, I'm wondering if this is the issue: here is everything 
listed for GTK3:

% apt list | grep libgtk3
libgtk3-nocsd0/bionic,now 3-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libgtk3-perl/bionic,bionic,now 0.032-1 all [installed,automatic]
libgtk3-simplelist-perl/bionic,bionic 0.17-1 all
libgtk3-webkit2-perl/bionic,bionic 0.06-3 all
libgtk3.0-cil/bionic,now 2.99.3-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libgtk3.0-cil-dev/bionic,now 2.99.3-2 amd64 [installed]


And for libgtk3 I have:
sudo apt list | grep libgtk3
libgtk3-imageview-perl/kinetic,kinetic,now 10-1 all [installed,automatic]
libgtk3-nocsd0/kinetic 3-1ubuntu2 amd64
libgtk3-perl/kinetic,kinetic,now 0.038-1 all [installed]
libgtk3-simplelist-perl/kinetic,kinetic,now 0.21-1 all [installed,automatic]
libgtk3-webkit2-perl/kinetic,kinetic 0.06-4 all
libgtk3.0-cil-dev/kinetic,now 2.99.3-4build1 amd64 [installed]
libgtk3.0-cil/kinetic,now 2.99.3-4build1 amd64 [installed]

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Re: [GNC] Building 5.0 on Ubuntu 18.04

2023-03-29 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 3/29/23 11:57, Tom Weichmann wrote:


Hi All,

I'm still running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS which is still supported by Ubuntu
albeit a bit old.  I've been happily building all of the 4.x versions from
source since the latest is not in this distro's repositories.  Now i'm
trying to build version 5,0 and I'm running into a failure with cmake:

<>

CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:776 (target_compile_definitions):
   Cannot specify compile definitions for imported target "PkgConfig::GLIB2".


CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:782 (target_compile_definitions):
   Cannot specify compile definitions for imported target "PkgConfig::GTK3".
I compiled just fine on Ubuntu 22.10.  Your problem may be older 
versions of GLIB2 and GTK3 (which might be GTK2 on 18.04).


The newer versions needed for those modules may not be compatible with 
18.04.


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Re: [GNC] Schedule transaction for 2 Wednesday?

2023-03-09 Thread Stephen M. Butler



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Re: [GNC] Schedule transaction for 2 Wednesday?

2023-03-09 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Set it on the Frequency tab.

Frequency -- pick Monthly
Every ? months -- (enter 1 into that box)
On the {big drop down list}  -- Pick the '2nd Wed' from the list.

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On 3/9/23 20:53, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

I don't think you can.

The closest method I can find is to set the first instance to the 
second Wednesday then set frequency to 28 days, or 4 weeks.


But of course, that will sometimes fall on the first Wednesday.

The workaround there is to set it for remind and review without 
auto-creation and adjust as needed.


Regards,
Adrien

On 3/9/23 10:38 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote:

Hi All,

Fedora 37
gnucash-4.13-1.fc37.x86_64

How do I set up a scheduled transaction to go off
the second Wednesday of the month?


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Re: [GNC] Building Gnucash on Fedora 37 - "No package 'glib-2.0' found" error

2023-03-09 Thread Stephen M. Butler

This is the package for Ubuntu.

apt --yes --force-yes install libglib2.0 libglib2.0-dev

In fact, here are all the dependencies needed:
apt --yes --force-yes install build-essential
apt --yes --force-yes install cmake
apt --yes --force-yes install ninja-build
apt --yes --force-yes install libglib2.0 libglib2.0-dev
apt --yes --force-yes install libxml2 libxml++2.6-dev libxml2-utils
apt --yes --force-yes install libxslt1.1 libxslt1-dev
apt --yes --force-yes install libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev
apt --yes --force-yes install gtk+3.0 libgtk-3-dev
apt --yes --force-yes install zlib1g zlib1g-dev
apt --yes --force-yes install guile-2.0 guile-2.0-dev
apt --yes --force-yes install swig
apt-get install libboost-all-dev
apt-get install libsecret-1-0 libsecret-1-0-dev
apt-get install aqbanking-tools libaqbanking-dev
apt-get install gwenhywfar-tools libgwenhywfar60 libgwenhywfar60-dev
apt-get install ktoblzcheck libktoblzcheck1-dev
apt-get install libofx-dev
apt-get install xsltproc
apt-get install libdbi1 libdbi-dev libdbd-pgsql libdbd-mysql libdbd-sqlite3
apt-get install python3-pytest
apt --yes --force-yes install googletest



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On 3/9/23 14:52, Vivek Gani wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to build gnucash from source (rather than the rpm package or
flatpak for python bindings) on Linux (Fedora 37) and keep running into an
issue where on build I get the error:

```
-- Checking for module 'glib-2.0>=2.56.1'
--   No package 'glib-2.0' found
```

What I've tried so far:
- I've installed glib2.0-devel via `sudo dnf install glib2-devel`
- I've checked via `yum provides */glib2.0.pc` which shows it is in the
`/usr/lib64/pkgconfig` directory.
- I've checked the contents of `echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH` which shows
directories like `/usr/lib64/pkgconfig` are listed.
- I've tried building gnucash with various different arguments, but similar
to the directions in
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/CMake#GnuCash_Configuration_Variables &
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux#Build_using_CMake_and_Ninja
I've tried in my build directory:
`cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$HOME/opt
-DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH  -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=on
../gnucash-4.13`

and get the glib error. It happens also without the CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH, just
running plain `cmake .` in the gnucash source directory, etc.

Any idea what I'm missing to get things to build?

Thanks in advance,
Vivek
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Re: [GNC] How to force y in reconcile field

2023-02-02 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 2/2/23 10:14, Xe Roy wrote:

I am new user who made a mistake in a previous reconcile.
To correct the mistake, I need to change 2 transactions from n to y in the 
reconcile field.
I see that is not possible via the program, so do I have to edit the .gnucash 
file or is there a better way?

When that happens to me (or I do an edit that turns off the reconcile 
flag), I just include them (check the box) on the next reconciliation 
cycle (which mostly happens right then since I have online access to the 
bank's information).

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Re: [GNC] Start up cost in GnuCash

2023-01-24 Thread Stephen M. Butler
This is a discussion you need to have with your CPA.  Involved are the 
following questions:


1.  Is this a sole proprietorship?  Partnership?  LLC?  Corporation?
2.  If a sole proprietorship, will the accounting be done in your 
personal books?  Or do you need a separate set of books for the business?

3.  Will the business refund you or are these your own expenses?

Only your CPA can guide you correctly.

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On 1/24/23 11:18, Joel via gnucash-user wrote:

Hello Gnucash, We are trying to figure out how to enter into gnucash the 
initial expenses or startup cost for the business we have been putting on our 
personal credit card to start this new business.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Taneshia and Joel
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Re: [GNC] Merge two pairs -> one 4-way split

2023-01-15 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 1/15/23 11:50, Fred Tydeman wrote:

I have one transaction moving money from A to B (one pair)
I have another transaction moving money from C to D (another pair)
I now realize I should have one transaction with 4 splits.
Is there an easy way to merge the two pairs into one 4-way split?
Or, do I have to manually re-enter 40 transactions?

I do not know of a way to easily merge transactions.

On a practical note.  Why make the change retroactive?  My solution is 
to let the past be and make the change going forward.


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Re: [GNC] Are accountants happy with CVS exports?

2023-01-03 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 1/3/23 17:43, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:


multi-page Q&A his office provides.


Do you not provide details of what the individual transactions to your 
accountant? If you do provide that, do you just use the unedited CSV 
files exported from GnuCash?


Dave


I do print off a detailed transaction report by account/date.  So far 
they haven't asked for it.


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Re: [GNC] Are accountants happy with CVS exports?

2023-01-02 Thread Stephen M. Butler
My CPA accepts the Balance Sheet and Profit/Loss Statement along with a 
multi-page Q&A his office provides.


On 1/2/23 13:30, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

I asked my accountant about using GnuCash. He doesn’t know it, but said if
can export a CSV file that will be okay.

Previously I have used LibraOffice, with multiple tabs for different
things. Something like the following - he provided me with this as a
suggestion when I first contacted him.


1) PayPal account
2) Bank Account
3) Expenses
4) Assets
5) Stock - just a list of what I have at the end of the financial year.
6) Electricity usage

He can export that as a CSV file. It will have a list of expenses something
like

2/1/2023, widgets, £12.34
1/1/2023, things, £178.12

All values are positive, and the sum of those is the sum of the expenses.
That’s quite different from the CSV export from GnuCash, where each line
has either a positive value or negative, and the sum is zero.

Do people get any complaints from accountants about the format of the
files, or are they happy with them?

I could write my own post-processor using Linux command line tools to get
data in a format that more resembles what he had before.

Normally I get my accounts to my accountant near the end of the month they
need to be submitted, which is 6 months after the end of the financial
year. Next time I hope to get them to him *much* earlier so if he has any
problems with the exported files, I can manipulate them.

It would be nice if one could export all the expenses without the dates
being in a random order. The only way I can find to get dates in a
chronological order is to export every single account separately, so there
are no sub accounts. I thought about trying to write some code that would
allow all the expenses to be exported in one file in chronological order.
That’s not an impossible task, but would take me quite a bit of coding. If
I did it, I would just create something that’s command line driven, using
as many as the unix tools as possible to cut down the work. It might be
possible to just make a fairly complex shell script.

Dave





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[GNC] Application crashes in macOS

2023-01-01 Thread Sabarish V M
Hi,

I am using MacBook Pro (M1 2020), and the application constantly crashes 
whenever I try to import transactions from .csv files. The trace file inside 
$TMPDIR/gnucash.trace is also empty. I am not sure what other input I can 
provide. 

Best,
Sabarish.
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Re: [GNC] Bank account reconciled, will this change screw things up?

2022-12-30 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 12/30/22 14:48, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
How do you do that for a posted bill/invoice? Mine is immutable. (and 
should be)


Regards,
Adrien

On 12/30/22 4:32 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:
I just modify the account on that one line to point to Postage.  It 
doesn't seem to hurt any and is a whole lot simpler than trying to 
enter the whole transaction all over again.


OK.  Mine are not tied to the business features.

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Re: [GNC] Bank account reconciled, will this change screw things up?

2022-12-30 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 12/30/22 12:43, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

I paid for some postage for £12.54, but instead  of sticking the expense
account as Postage, I put Payroll - well, then do both begin with P. Given
I have reconciled the bank account, is it dangerous to change the account
this transaction is debited to, from Payroll to Postage? I was thinking of
unposting it, changing the expense account, then paying the invoice again.
The amount of money is unchanged.
I just modify the account on that one line to point to Postage.  It 
doesn't seem to hurt any and is a whole lot simpler than trying to enter 
the whole transaction all over again.

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Re: [GNC] Changing registers in the middle of entering or editing a transaction

2022-12-28 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 12/28/22 14:05, Stan Brown wrote:

It's a bit irritating to be told that something is preventing save, but
not told what that something is. (Reminds me of the story, hopefully
apocryphal, of a C compiler that had only one error message, "Syntax
Error", with no indication of where.)


Saw that multiple times on a Mod 1 MSR COBOL compiler on a Honeywell 115.

My wife was doing data entry at the time and saved my butt on a number 
of occasions (my programs where keyed onto cards from a coding sheet).  
"Is this supposed to be a period here?"


"Nope.  Just a defect in the coding sheet paper."

"I thought so but Carla punched a period there.  I'll fix it."

Still love that woman.  48 years tomorrow!

PS.  Had a student once ask what was "Syntax".  Told her it was the tax 
the government applied for her sins!


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Re: [GNC] How to handle inventory assets in GnuCash?

2022-12-20 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Eric,

As you noted, they are an Asset.  Now, I'm not a CPA or even a book 
keeper (though my wife did that job for a number of years for an 
architect).  Here is how I am doing it.


1.  Setup an Asset account for Inventory (or whatever you want to name it).
2.  Setup an account for Cost of Goods Sold.  (Mine is a contra account 
in Income -- your CPA might want it as an Expense).
3.  Divide your inventory value by the number of items (if only one type 
of item or break out a similar Cost/Item for each type of item).
4.  When you make a sale, reduce Inventory by the COGS for that item and 
increase the appropriate account from step 2.


Note, I didn't use Credit/Debit as I forget which one is supposed to be 
closest to the window.  I think that changed recently when I switched my 
desk around and the other side of the monitor is now nearest the window.


--Steve

On 12/20/22 06:55, Eric Chapman wrote:
I am wondering how, in GnuCash, to account for assets bought to resell 
or other assets that will later be expensed as used.


I'm in the USA context. As far as terminology goes, I think UK and 
other English speaking locales use the word "stock" to refer to 
inventory, but, in my experience, that is not common in the USA 
(indeed, the first definition of "stock" from Apple Dictionary: "the 
goods or merchandise kept on the premises of a business or warehouse 
and available for sale or distribution"; that is basically the 
definition of "inventory" at the bottom of the wiki article referred 
to below). I will try to use the word "inventory" so I do not confuse 
the term I'm talking about with the one meaning ownership securities 
of a company ("He owns 100 shares of XYZ Company stock.").


I found something relevant in the wiki: 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Inventory_Handling. Best I can tell, 
GnuCash does not have any dedicated way to handle inventory flows: 
purchases, sales, revaluations for market fluctuations, identification 
of lots/batches).


If I want to deal with inventory now in GnuCash v. 4.13, any best 
practices? I'm not talking about massive amounts of items or quantities.


Thank you!
Eric


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Re: [GNC] Roth IRA conversion

2022-12-19 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 12/19/22 14:53, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:

On 12/19/2022 2:49 PM, David T. wrote:

Michael,

While I fully respect your answer, with over 45 million IRA accounts 
in the US (according to one source I found online), this is a pretty 
common circumstance. It should be possible for basic guidance to be 
given by *someone*, without all 45 million consulting an accountant. 
I personally don't know the answer.


The question was not about basic IRA accounting (or 401k accounting, 
which was your example)


Usually people choose regular IRA or Roth IRA depending on whether 
they wanted to pay the income tax now (contribution time) or later 
(distribution time). So it is NOT "all the people with IRAs" but only 
"those few whose changed circumstances mean they now want Roth rather 
than regular". << this is one of the few "changed your mind" that the 
IRS allows >>


For example, I might want to do this if I had regular IRAs and a huge 
loss of some kind that could be used to offset the imputed income of 
the conversion to Roth.


And I am doing the IRA to Roth conversion now that I'm on Social 
InSecurity and paying no taxes.  So it is tiny bytes each year!!


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Re: [GNC] Is there a way to find date & time a transaction was entered?

2022-12-18 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 12/18/22 17:14, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

I have a transaction that I entered incorrectly. Is there a way to
determine the date & time that the transaction was entered? If so, I could
just load a backup file created just before I screwed up.

It is easier to just correct the original transaction.

I know that in formal accounting one should not delete transactions, but
apply a reversing transaction. But I think that will just confuse me, and
my accountant more. I don’t need to be too formal - previously I have
submitted my accounts to my accountant on a spreadsheet, but that’s too
error-prone for my liking.


If you were doing this for somebody else then that would be the "proper" 
route.  But, if this is just personal or for your own business, then 
just erase the bad part and make the correction. It's digital and nobody 
will know you made a mistake (unless the look at all the log files that 
you failed to delete).



  If I delete the transaction, would that put things back exactly as they
were before the transaction was entered?


Yup, by why be that hard on yourself?


I spent about 20 minutes last night trying to understand how £14 had
disappeared from the company bank account, clearly marked in the bank
account that the money went to PayPal, but there was no record of the
transaction on the company PayPal account.  I eventually found what had
happened - it had gone to my personal PayPal account. There’s no way I
would have spotted that error using spreadsheets. The double entry
accounting does make finding errors easier than using a spreadsheet.


Personally, I would just go to that one line and change the account from 
paypal personal to paypal company.

I must admit, I am quite impressed with GnuCash.

Dave


Me too.  And I'm also lazy so I just do the minimum needed to fix my 
mistakes.


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Re: [GNC] Importing Transactions from CSV

2022-12-15 Thread M

Ah ha.

I was opening my csv file in a spreadsheet editor and manipulating the 
data before importing.


I made a couple simple test csv files and they worked exactly as you 
described.


I think the issue may be a formatting error my spreadsheet software was 
doing.


Thanks for the help, I think I have it solved.

Mike

On 12/15/22 6:58 AM, Murugan Muruganandam wrote:
you dont need to change the file, if  it is negative, GNUCash will 
move it to debit column in this case.  Select the column as withdrawal




Saludos Cordiales


Murugan


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*Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2022 11:15 PM
*To:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
*Subject:* [GNC] Importing Transactions from CSV
My credit card company recently stopped publishing their transactions in
OFX format.  They now only offer the transactions in CSV format.

The issue I have is they list both deposits and withdrawals in the same
"Amount" column.  They signify deposits as negative amounts, and
withdrawals as positive amounts.

As far as I can tell, Gnucash only allows imports of a "Withdrawals" or
"Deposits" column type when importing transactions in CSV format.  Is
this correct?

Is there any way to streamline the import of this data without modifying
the CSV file to move negative numbers to another column? I suppose I
could write a python script to do this automatically, but I was
wondering if I am missing something in Gnucash.

Thanks!

Mike
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[GNC] Importing Transactions from CSV

2022-12-14 Thread M
My credit card company recently stopped publishing their transactions in 
OFX format.  They now only offer the transactions in CSV format.


The issue I have is they list both deposits and withdrawals in the same 
"Amount" column.  They signify deposits as negative amounts, and 
withdrawals as positive amounts.


As far as I can tell, Gnucash only allows imports of a "Withdrawals" or 
"Deposits" column type when importing transactions in CSV format.  Is 
this correct?


Is there any way to streamline the import of this data without modifying 
the CSV file to move negative numbers to another column? I suppose I 
could write a python script to do this automatically, but I was 
wondering if I am missing something in Gnucash.


Thanks!

Mike
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Re: [GNC] New PC

2022-12-14 Thread Stephen M. Butler

I can help with (b)  and (c).

On 12/14/22 11:51, Deborah Millington wrote:

Hello, I'm looking for a bit of help please.  I've used GnuCash for many
years on a laptop which is now struggling to keep going.  I've got a newer
(second hand) laptop and need to do a one off transfer of my GnuCash files
to it so I can use it instead in future.  I'm familiar with backing up my
files, so I know I can locate them on my old laptop.  I've also installed
GnuCash on my new laptop.  Here are the things I need help with:
(a) I should be able to copy my data files to my new laptop and open them
using GnuCash.  However, I'm sure I've seen something saying that there are
lots of other settings/config which aren't transferred this way.  Can you
tell me what these are & how I update them on the new laptop to match what
is one the old one please?
(b) In doing the installation, I've discovered that I have been using an
old version of GnuCash.  Is it worth me backing up my current data file on
the old version, then installing the new version on the old laptop &
updating the data file before transferring it, or if I just put the data in
its existing format onto the new computer will it open the old version data
in the new version of software OK & allow me to save the data against the
new software version?


Depends on how old.  If you have a v2 series, then you need to upgrade 
some on the old machine.  See how old of a version you can load on your 
new machine and get updated to that version on the old box first.  Then 
you can do the remainder of the upgrades on the new box.  If you tell 
the list the version you have on the old laptop along with the O/S and 
that version, then the list can be more specific in the upgrade path.  
Also give the O/S and version on the new computer.



(c) What do I need to do to ensure I get notifications of future updates?
Sign up to this mailing list (gnucash-user).  If this has too much 
traffic, then gnucash-announce 
<https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-announce> has much 
less traffic but does so the announcements (or so I'm told).




I have checked the help as much as I can before posting this.  I've seen a
few related posts, but nothing which has specifically addressed all aspects
of my query.  All help appreciated.  Thank you.
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Re: [GNC] How can I enter all fixed assets?

2022-11-30 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 11/30/22 15:39, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

Having given this more consideration I think the following is my best bet.
Comments welcome, but I am not expecting to get definitive professional
advice.

I am considering to lump them all together under Assets -> Fixed Assets,
with an opening balance equal to the value at the start of the financial
year, taking into account the depreciation. That value is given to me by my
accountant.

This will mean that I can not work out the depreciation on an individual
item, but my accountant does that each year to submit the accounts. I pay a
professional to do that.

He can tell me at the end of the year how much the sum of all items have
depreciated, and I can just enter that sum once per year. He can also give
me the exact amount of depreciation on every item, but I will just ignore
that, and record the sum. He doesn’t normally give me the individual items
- only the sum. He did give them to me this year as I asked for them, but
normally he doesn’t give me a detailed breakdown.

In previous years my accountant has never expected me to work out the
depreciation - he does it once per year.

If I was inspected by HMRC, I doubt that they are going to quibble about
the fact I don’t know the depreciation of assets on a particular day. If
they do, my accountant would be able to supply them.

The HMRC website lists what is inspected of directors - I put a copy below.
It mentions “Details of assets owned by the company” but does not actually
define what details they are.

Does changing the total value once/year in GnuCash under

Assets -> Fixed assets

seem reasonable given that is all my accountant ever gives me?

Dave
Accounting records


Seems reasonable to me.  I would ask the CPA/Accountant if that 
satisfies the below that you referenced.

You must keep accounting records that include:

- all money received and spent by the company, including grants and
payments from coronavirus (COVID-19) support schemes

<https://www.gov.uk/guidance/reporting-coronavirus-covid-19-grants-and-support-payments>
- details of assets owned by the company
- debts the company owes or is owed
- stock the company owns at the end of the financial year
- the stocktakings you used to work out the stock figure
- all goods bought and sold
- who you bought and sold them to and from (unless you run a retail
business)

You must also keep any other financial records, information and
calculations you need to prepare and file your annual accounts and Company
Tax Return
<https://www.gov.uk/prepare-file-annual-accounts-for-limited-company>. This
includes records of:

- all money spent by the company, for example receipts, petty cash
books, orders and delivery notes
- all money received by the company, for example invoices, contracts,
sales books and till rolls
- any other relevant documents, for example bank statements and
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Re: [GNC] How can I enter all fixed assets?

2022-11-29 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 11/29/22 18:24, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:

On 11/29/2022 8:18 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:
I want to start using GnuCash for a company I set up several years 
ago. The

company has some assets - mainly electronic test equipment. Let’s
hypothetically assume

VNA £1000
Signal generator £500
Frequency counter £250
Calibration kit £2000

Total is £3750


Is there a way of entering the individual items into GnuCash? I realise
that I can create an account

Assets -> Test equipment

with an opening balance of £3750, but that doesn’t itemise individual
items.

It would be a bit tedious to create accounts for every item individually

Assets -> Test equipment -> VNA
Assets -> Test equipment -> Signal generator
Assets -> Test equipment -> Frequency counter

and set each to have an appropriate opening balance.


Normally under "assets" one might have a number of high level 
sub-accounts. For example "current assets" (cash and cash equivalents, 
bank accounts, A/R (could  be "factored), negotiable instruments, etc. 
Then there might be "inventory" if the business bought and sold 
widgets. But the sub-category you are asking about is "fixed assets". 
HOW you subdivide further probably best dictated by how you depreciate 
them and I haven't a clue about "depreciation" rules in the UK.


a) If your gnucash books already exist I would create the accounts 
with zero balance and add the current BOOK VALUE* with a transaction.


b) HERE I would need to know the year purchased, original basis, and 
total depreciated so far. For that reason I probably would have 
assets:fixed assets:test equipment: (and then each because the 
depreciation history for each likely different.


I will stop here because you aren't so much asking a gnucash question 
as a "fundamentals of accounting" question and you need to look up 
"accounting for/depreciating the fixed assets of a business" and 
"adjustments upon disposal of a fixed asset" in accordance with the 
rules of your jurisdiction. In other words, THAT would be the same as 
in the old days of keeping you books by hand pen and ink on paper.  
Those rules will affect your choices with regard to "keep all 
together" vs "have each separate", etc.


Michael D Novack


The short answer implied by previous responders is:  There is no Fixed 
Assets module in GnuCash!


Given Michaels comments above, you find it better to keep a spread-sheet 
for each class of asset (depreciation rate/age) and keep the sub-totals 
in GnuCash.


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Re: [GNC] can't find gnucash on my computer

2022-11-20 Thread Stephen M. Butler

What O/S?  Windows, Mac, Linux (flavor)?  Which version of O/S?

Which version of GnuCash did you download?

On 11/20/22 11:29, Sally Abrams via gnucash-user wrote:

I downloaded gnucash.  Ran the set up, even tried restarting my computer but no 
icon and when I search my computer only the setup file shows up.  Its not 
showing up in programs.  When I ran set up again, it told me program was on my 
computer and it uninstalled it so it could reinstall it but my computer still 
can't find it.  i'm on windows 7.  I'm planning on upgrading my computer but 
first want to move my data from quicken to gnucash.  thanks for any help.


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[GNC] Won't Start on Upgraded Ubuntu 22.10

2022-10-24 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Upgraded Ubuntu overnight to 22.10.

GnC won't start this morning.  CI attempt shows "error while loading 
shared libraries: libicuuc.so.70: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory"


Indeed, it appears that libicuuc.so.71 was installed during the upgrade.

GnC version 4.11-136 had been locally compiled so suspect it didn't get 
libraries updated.


Did a git pull, found that 4.12.28 was current in maint, compiled and 
installed.  That fixed the issue (plus forced me to upgrade to the latest).


Just a notice to anyone else who may be upgrading Ubuntu this week.

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Re: [GNC] Sub-Accounting (Was: Problem with missing balance in a parent account **FINAL POST**)

2022-10-11 Thread Stephen M. Butler
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[GNC] Feature Request - Totals in Search Results

2022-10-11 Thread M
First, thanks to all the great contributors to this project. Gnucash has 
really matured during the 3+ years I've been using it. Thanks again.


Second, I have a quick feature request.  When conducting a search (Edit 
-> Find...) it would be very useful if the results would populate with a 
summary of the totals at the bottom of the screen (much like an account 
register does).  I realize this information can be found by running a 
transaction report, but it sure would be quick and easy if a summary 
appeared in the Search Results transactions window.


Thanks again for everyone's work.

MIke
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Re: [GNC] Import CSV transactions into GC

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Re: [GNC] Reconciling subaccounts

2022-10-07 Thread Stephen M. Butler
For  me the parent placeholder account in GnC is the bank account that 
is being reconciled.  The sub-accounts in GnC are just my way of 
delegating the funds within that account for certain  purposes.


I'm not sure about the use case of using the placeholder as a grand 
total for all accounts held at the bank and then reconciling all of them 
in one step (checking, saving, CD, money market).  I suppose if they 
were all reported on a single statement



On 10/7/22 10:41, R Losey wrote:

I kind of like it the way it is currently, for what it's worth.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:20 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:


Thanks for the details.

I'd say this is a bug, as the expected result would be to have the
reconcile status of sub-accounts updated.

You should file that on bugs.gnucash.org

It *might* be designed that way however. I could be wrong, but I think
the idea for this feature is to be used for 'virtual' sub-accounts that
are used for segregating funds in your own books, but not actual
multiple real-world accounts with an institution.

The parent is the real account in such a case, so that might be why it
is the only one marked reconciled with a date. (it is the only one with
a statement to reconcile against)

In your case, you seem to be trying to reconcile multiple real accounts
through a placeholder parent. But GnuCash doesn't know that. (or
'reconciling' non-institution accounts, such as Expenses.)

Until it is 'fixed' or changed, I guess your option is to continue to
reconcile-finish the sub-accounts to update them, or else just reconcile
them all individually rather than together as sub-accounts.

Regards,
Adrien

On 10/3/22 4:56 PM, Uttam Chakravorty wrote:

My apologies Adrien, I will be more specific.  Line 2 - >Sales -> A/c No

01: all the subsequent lines starting '01-' are the subaccounts.
Reconciling 01 with subaccounts ticked will reconcile all of them, but only
update 01's date field.  I then step through the subaccounts and as they
are all already reconciled I just press 'Finish' to update their date.


Line 11 is a single entry with no subaccounts.


Line 12 is similar to Line 2, a Placeholder with three subaccounts.


I have tried to indicate the above in Column E, however I have made a

mistake with Lines 64, 71 and 77.  They have no subaccounts, I annotated
them in error as all the top level accounts are reconciled.  In terms of
consistency I failed to annotate Lines 12, 17 and 59.  Looking back this is
a scrappy piece of work put together in haste.  I hope you will be able to
extract something useful, or I will happily do it again.  Please advise.



Line 18 (A/c code 5 (should be 05)) is particularly interesting.  This

has subaccounts and they have Placeholders which have subaccounts i.e.
three levels deep.  Reconciling the top level reconciles all the other
levels, however once more it only updates the date at the top level.


I do not find it too onerous to live with this little extra keyboard

activity.  I just wondered if I was doing something wrong again.


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[GNC] Compiling under Ubuntu 18 thru 22

2022-08-09 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Someone on this list shared the following script with me to load the 
build dependencies.


I ran it back around Ubuntu 18.? and now am up on 22.04 with GnuCash 4.x

Come to think, there may have been a module update since then, but that 
will become obvious if you compile.


#!/bin/bash
clear
# this script was developed to install a basic development environment
# for GnuCash > V3 on a Linux Mint 19 OS
echo "Script to install development environment for GnuCash ~V3.0"
echo ""
echo "Installing build environment:"
echo "   build-essential"
sudo apt install build-essential
echo "   cmake"
sudo apt install cmake
echo "   ninja-build"
sudo apt install ninja-build
echo ""
echo "Installing GnuCash dependencies and development headers:"
echo "   libglib2.0 and dev headers"
sudo apt install libglib2.0 libglib2.0-dev
echo "   libxml2 libxml++2.6-dev libxml2-utils"
sudo apt install libxml2 libxml++2.6-dev libxml2-utils
echo "   libxslt1.1 libxslt1-dev"
sudo apt install libxslt1.1 libxslt1-dev
echo "   libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev"
sudo apt install libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev
echo "   gtk+3.0 libgtk-3-dev"
sudo apt install gtk+3.0 libgtk-3-dev
echo "   zlib1g zlib1g-dev"
sudo apt install zlib1g zlib1g-dev
echo "   guile-2.0 guile-2.0-dev"
sudo apt install guile-2.0 guile-2.0-dev
echo "   swig   3.0 on LM19  2.0 on Lm18?"
sudo apt install swig
echo "   sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev"
sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
echo "   libsecret-1-0 libsecret-1-0-dev"
sudo apt-get install libsecret-1-0 libsecret-1-0-dev
echo " AqBanking Tools"
echo "   aqbanking-tools libaqbanking-dev"
sudo apt-get install aqbanking-tools libaqbanking-dev
echo "   gwenhywfar-tools libgwenhywfar60 libgwenhywfar60-dev"
sudo apt-get install gwenhywfar-tools libgwenhywfar60 libgwenhywfar60-dev
echo "   ktoblzcheck libktoblzcheck1-dev"
sudo apt-get install ktoblzcheck libktoblzcheck1-dev
echo " OFX support"
echo "   libofx libofx-dev"
sudo apt-get install libofx-dev
echo "   xsltproc"
sudo apt-get install xsltproc
echo " Database backend support"
echo "   libdbi1 libdbi-dev libdbd-pgsql libdbd-mysql libdbd-sqlite3"
sudo apt-get install libdbi1 libdbi-dev libdbd-pgsql libdbd-mysql 
libdbd-sqlite3

echo " Python support"
sudo apt-get install python3-pytest
echo " Google Test"
sudo apt install googletest
=

I do compile from a git repository located on my box at 
/home/steve/Projects/GnuCash/gnucash


The below script is run from /home/steve/Projects/GnuCash  (one level up 
from the git repository).  I just pulled the latest commits from the 
master and ran this script to compile:


#!/bin/bash
#
#  build-gnucash
#
# NOte:  do a git pull followed by git checkout of version desired 
before starting script


cd $HOME/Projects/GnuCash/gnucash

GITVER=$(git describe)
MYVER=${GITVER%-*}
MYRPR=Build-gnucash_${MYVER}
echo $MYVER

cd ..

rm -rf $MYRPR  > /dev/null

mkdir $MYRPR

cd $MYRPR

cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local  ../gnucash

make

echo  ##  sudo make install
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Re: [GNC] Build From Source Near Impossible

2022-08-09 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Last build I did was on 21.10 (for 4.10-65-g7e4fcc7af+(2022-04-29)).

Now running 22.04 but haven't built the latest release yet -- may be a 
bit before I do.  Maybe 5.0 will come out first <>.

--Steve

On 8/9/22 11:37, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

Seems reasonable to me.

I'd think the only versions with instructions that are useful are 
those still supported by Canonical, namely, these LTS releases:


14.04 - EOL 4/24 (ESS 4/19)
16.04 - EOL 4/26 (ESS 4/21)
18.04 - EOL 4/28 (ESS 4/23)
20.04 - EOL 4/30 (ESS 4/25)
22.04 - EOL 4/32 (ESS 4/27)

Plus:

22.10, 23.04 & 23.10 (and other future non-LTS versions) when they are 
released and nuances are determined to need special instructions. 
(with those to be deprecated as they reach EOL)


Or maybe just only provide instructions for LTS and make a note that 
non-LTS versions aren't supported for long enough by Canonical to 
warrant their own documentation.


Note, the above EOL dates are based on Canonical's ESM (Extended 
Security Maintenance) available for both Enterprise and Personal Use. 
(free for the latter) See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases


That is 5 years beyond 'standard support'. (indicated as ESS above)

If the dev team wants to stick with the standard support window, then 
of course 14.04 & 16.04 can also be dropped.


Though, 16.04 was a breakpoint with respect to support for physical 
32-bit systems. At least some derivatives are still based on 16.04 for 
that reason. (a recent thread from a user described some difficulty 
getting a 4.x version to work on an older Linux Lite release.)


If someone can report their various results & mileage, maybe those 
older LTS releases can be sent to a sort of 'archive' page along with 
a note on the last version of GnuCash that could successfully build on 
them.


Of course, the recommendation can also be to advise the user to switch 
to a current distribution still actively supporting 32-bit hardware. 
(Debian/Devuan & Q4OS at least come to mind, I'm sure Distrowatch can 
inform concerning others.)


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/9/22 12:49 PM, david whiting wrote:

I think we should remove the instructions from
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Ubuntu for 21.10. Anyone
have any objections to that?



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Re: [GNC] Stumped on Mortgage Asst - Screenshots

2022-08-03 Thread Stephen M. Butler
...@fastmail.com> wrote:

All,

 Please help if you can. I think I've documented with the shots
required, but if you want to see something else, sing out. Somewhere 
I am
missing a very basic concept. I'm trying to use the assistant to 
create a
scheduled transaction. The file names describe each step. The file 
and CoA
are dummies until I grasp this concept and move on to putting my 
401kk of

MUFUs into the tool.
- I've used my current statement, due 1 July to match up a 
amortization

website to show the P&I due on 1 July. Amounts and start dates in the
assistant are configured to match those amounts. Curiously, the 
website and
my statement show a different remaining balance, but that is outside 
the

scope.

- I step you through my assistant.

- In the end I show you the result of the assistant, which shows the
correct P&I. Escrow is wrong, but I'm sure I can fix that in the 
editor.
I'll accumulate escrow each month and then schedule a payment from 
escrow

asset to tax and insurance expenses once all the above works.

- I let GnuCash enter the created transaction (ignoring from birth of
the loan) and the transaction for 1 July 2022 is actually the P&I 
for 1 May

2035.


TIA




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Re: [GNC] Single Account Expenses For Current Year Only

2022-07-27 Thread Stephen M. Butler
In which case, the transaction report option would be the best way to 
get what he wants.


On 7/27/22 13:21, Gyle McCollam wrote:

Stephen,
He could have one account, but he could also have accounts for 
Hospital, Doctors, Dentists, Prescription, Medical Travel, etc. These 
could all be under a parent account, Medical, but everyone is 
different and they may not be.


Thank You,

*Gyle McCollam*

Gyle McCollam

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*From:* gnucash-user 
 on behalf of 
Stephen M. Butler 

*Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2022 4:10 PM
*To:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
*Subject:* Re: [GNC] Single Account Expenses For Current Year Only
On 7/27/22 12:15, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
>
> I want add up all my medical expenses from Jan. 1, 2022 up to today.
> How do I do that?
> I tried several different reports and all they gave me was the account
> balance as of today. I just want what was spent so far for this year.
> And before you ask I set the date range from 1/1/2022 to "today" in
> the drop down boxes.
>
> Thanks!
>

I presume you have an expense account just for the medical expenses?  If
not, why not?

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Re: [GNC] Single Account Expenses For Current Year Only

2022-07-27 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 7/27/22 12:15, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:


I want add up all my medical expenses from Jan. 1, 2022 up to today.
How do I do that?
I tried several different reports and all they gave me was the account 
balance as of today. I just want what was spent so far for this year.
And before you ask I set the date range from 1/1/2022 to "today" in 
the drop down boxes.


Thanks!



I presume you have an expense account just for the medical expenses?  If 
not, why not?


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Re: [GNC] Single Account Expenses For Current Year Only

2022-07-27 Thread Stephen M. Butler

I can think of three ways:

1.  On the Accounts tab use the down arrow on the far right to add the 
"Total (Period)" column (and any others you want such as "Present").


2.  Run the Profit/Loss statement for the period of time desired and the 
account values will show for the period.


3.  Use the transaction report to pull up just the transactions you want 
and get the grand total of that report.



On 7/27/22 12:58, Gyle McCollam wrote:

Jack,
That is the advantage of "Tools/Close Book".  If you do that each year, the 
account balances are the YTD totals.  If you have grouped all your medical expenses under 
a parent account that will be the grand total as well.  This way you don't even need a 
report.  It's probably to late now, because if you did close your books each year, I 
guess you wouldn't even be asking this question.

Hopefully, someone that uses reports will be able to help you with the current situation. 
 Or you could close your books "as of" 12/31/2021 and you will then have the 
totals you are looking for.


Thank You,

Gyle McCollam

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From: gnucash-user  on behalf of 
Jack Frillman via gnucash-user 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:15 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: [GNC] Single Account Expenses For Current Year Only


I want add up all my medical expenses from Jan. 1, 2022 up to today.
How do I do that?
I tried several different reports and all they gave me was the account
balance as of today. I just want what was spent so far for this year.
And before you ask I set the date range from 1/1/2022 to "today" in the
drop down boxes.

Thanks!

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Re: [GNC] Duplicate Transactions

2022-06-27 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 6/27/22 13:43, Jesse MacDougall wrote:

Hi there, I am doing some bookkeeping and I went to add two new
transactions by right clicking a current transaction and selecting
duplicate traction.


This usually works rather well.

I changed the date and added amount but do not see the transactions in the
account GL.  However, the amounts did get posted as I see the total dollar
amount has changed.


Question:
1) how do I find the two transactions so I can delete them?


Look for a transaction with a really early date (you entered 2 digit 
year rather than 4 digit year).  Or, attempt to reconcile on of the 
involved accounts and look for an entry with a strange date.


2) Is there a better way to make a new transaction in an account GL
instead of duplicating a transaction and changing the data?


I usually just start typing an entry and if the system sees one with 
exact same leading portion it will offer that up as an easy to accept 
completion.  This will generally give me the additional line items 
(splits) and I just have to change the amounts.  This also allows me to 
then edit the initial description (such as an order #) after I've 
accepted all the splits.


Merci,






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[GNC] Import importing duplicate trans

2022-06-16 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Today I tracked down a problem I've had with OFX import from Citi CC 
(Costco).


I did a partial month import a couple weeks ago.  Today I imported the 
entire statement period (so had several transactions already present).  
The import "lost" a new entry and "duplicated" an entry already imported.


The import bypassed the first fourteen (14) IDs in the file. However, 
the 14th transaction had not been previously loaded.  The 15th 
transaction (which it loaded) was already loaded by the prior import.  
Starting with the 16th transaction all the remainder loaded correctly.


Looking at the FTID numbers, I suspect that Citi assigns them by 
MMDD where the MMDD is the transaction date and  is a 
sequential number for this file.


I've seen transactions for the same date appearing in random order (not 
the order in which I remember the charges happening).


In this particular case, a couple more transactions for the last date 
previously downloaded (partial statement period) appeared and were 
assigned numbers earlier in the file than transactions already downloaded.


Hence, Citi assigned FTIDs do not stay with the transaction but are 
assigned at download time.


The lesson for me is to not download a partial statement period.

The implication is that the FTID from Citi is not trustworthy for match 
purposes.


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[GNC] Account for Seller Credit when purchasing a home

2022-05-07 Thread M

I am still learning double-entry accounting, and I need a little help.

I recently purchased a home, but the price was reduced during 
negotiation and a seller credit was applied at closing.


Agreed Purchase Price: $100,000
Seller Credit for Repairs: $5,000
Actual Purchase Price: $95,000

When I add this asset, I am stumped.  When I increase the asset by 
$100,000 and decrease other accounts for cash and loans of $95,000, that 
all makes sense.  But how do I account for the $5,000?  I see it as an 
unrealized gain... instant equity provided by the seller. But I need to 
debit an account with this amount, so it shows an unrealized gain of 
-$5,000.


Should I simply just increase the asset by $95,000 and not account for 
the credit?


I know I am missing the big picture.  Can anyone point me in the right 
direction?


Thanks to all,

Mike
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Re: [GNC] Fails under newest Ubuntu

2022-04-30 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 4/30/22 15:40, David H wrote:

Steve FYI,

Re-compiled and working now although I did have to add the following 
to my build script..


sudo git config --global --add safe.directory $SOURCEDIR

Cheers David H.



Cmake was building files in my gnucash git clone directory.  I ended up 
having to destroy and download a whole new clone.  That seems to have 
fixed whatever strange problem cmake was having.   Make is currently 
compiling and I hope that finishes here in the next few minutes.


I'll have to pull up the git docs and figure out what your command line 
does and why it might be needed.


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Re: [GNC] Fails under newest Ubuntu

2022-04-29 Thread Stephen M. Butler
Thanks.  I saw last night that it was v70.  Will compile this afternoon 
(other higher priority items on my list so far today).


--Steve

On 4/29/22 03:39, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote:

Hi Steve,

if this is your self-build GnuCash, you will have to rebuilt it after
updating your -devel packages.

According https://repology.org/project/icu/versions Ubuntu updated to
70.1 while older versions used 67.1.

Regards
Frank

Am 28.04.22 um 23:06 schrieb Stephen M. Butler:

Just upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04.  Gnucash will not load:

gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libicuuc.so.67: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

I will have to track down what happened with that library.  May have to
compile again.

--Steve




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[GNC] Fails under newest Ubuntu

2022-04-28 Thread Stephen M. Butler

Just upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04.  Gnucash will not load:

gnucash: error while loading shared libraries: libicuuc.so.67: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory


I will have to track down what happened with that library.  May have to 
compile again.


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Re: [GNC] How to manage multiple accounts (as in separate gnucash?? databases)?

2022-04-26 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 4/26/22 11:33, Robert Heller wrote:

At Tue, 26 Apr 2022 19:21:46 +0100 Chris Green  wrote:

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 02:00:22PM -0400, Robert Heller wrote:

Under Linux, gnucash's "recent file memory" is in ~/.gnucash/books/. Maybe if
that directory is removed or made to be an empty "read-only" directory, you
might be able to "enforce" gnucash to have a memory loss...

rm ~/.gnucash/books/*
chmod -w ~/.gnucash/books


Yes, it seems a bit drastic though! :-)

It's actually /home/chris/.local/share/gnucash/books (or, strictly,
some system variable specifies the directory I believe).

Probably depends on the version.  I'm still using 2.6.19-1 on my Ubuntu 18.04
system.

Even opening GnuCash from a menu or icon (rather than the command
line) I'd really prefer that it didn't default to the last set of
accounts opened.
Yeah, that is unfortunate.  And really unfriendly.



I happen to really like that it opens the last set of books.  Yes, I 
have three (3) separate sets of books with each in a different folder 
(directory).


And having the list of recent opened files makes it really handy to 
switch between the three sets as desired.


--Steve

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Re: [GNC] Why is Licenses and Permits Charges, not Expenses?

2022-04-24 Thread Howard M. Fried
Spectacular, thank you Jim.  Your suggestion was the solution.  I would 
never have found it on my own.


Cheers,
Howard


On 4/24/22 11:28 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:


Message: 1
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 13:29:16 -0700
From: Jim DeLaHunt 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC]  Why is ?Licenses and Permits? Charges, not
Expenses?
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On 2022-04-23 09:13, Howard M. Fried wrote:


In my (business) account hierarchy, all Expenses are listed as
positive numbers (in black).? However, the Expense category Licenses
and Permits is displayed as a negative number (in red).? In the list
of transactions, the amount column is labeled Expenses for all
(in-use) expense categories, except Licenses and Permits, for which
the amount column is labeled Charges.


I suggest you double-check the Account Type for the "Licenses and
Permits" account. You can do this from the Accounts tab, by clicking on
the account and pressing the Edit button. An Edit Account dialogue
appears. In the bottom left corner of this dialogue, there is a list,
"Account Type". In an expense hierarchy, only the types Income and
Expense will be listed. If Income is highlighted, change it to Expense.

The clue is that use of the term "Charges". In an Income account, the
left amount column is titled "Charge", and the right is titled "Income".
In an Expense account, the left amount column is titled "Expense", and
the right is titled "Rebate".

Does this help?

Best regards,
  ?? ?Jim DeLaHunt

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