[GNC] Fixed decimal separator on MacOS Big Sur 11.4

[Yves Forget via gnucash-user]

Hello,

I’m using GnuCash on MacOS with language/region set to French Canada.

I had a problem with the decimal separator in GnuCash since updating from MacOS 
10.13 to 10.14 .  I upgraded to Big Sur (11.4) in the last few days, and the 
problem persisted.

In went into my installed Gnucash.app, in Contents/Resources, and noticed there 
was no french resources, even if the application is in french on my Mac (french 
menus, buttons, etc).  I just created an empty fr.lproj folder, restarted the 
application, and my decimal separator is now the comma, the default value for 
french Canada.  The fix may also work on other MacOS versions between 10.14 and 
11.4 .

Duplicating the en.lproj folder and renaming the copy to fr.lproj would make 
GnuCash bring the English manuals when accessing the Help/Tutorial and Concepts 
Guide menu.  It’s probably better than an empty fr.lproj folder where the 
Tutorial menu would bring nothing.

> Le 24 mai 2021 à 22:41, Yves Forget  a écrit :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I just upgraded from MacOS 10.13 High Sierra to 10.14.6 Mojave.
> 
> Since upgrade, GnuCash uses the period instead of comma as decimal separator.
> 
> All existing transactions are shown with the wrong separator (123.45 instead 
> of 123,45) and when entering new transactions I need to use the period as 
> decimal separator.  Also, I get an error when GnuCash tries to apply a 
> scheduled transaction (since scheduled transactions were created with comma 
> as decimal separator)
> 
> I checked settings in GnuCash : Preferences/Account/Default Currency shows 
> Canadian Dollars.
> 
> The settings in MacOS seems to be correct also : System Preferences/Language 
> and Region is set to Canada and the money example is 4 567,89 .  Clicking 
> Advanced, the decimal separator for both numbers and money is set to comma 
> (default value for Canada).
> 
> Other software (OpenOffice) uses the comma as expected.
> 
> Any hints ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Yves Forget
> 

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[GNC] Decimal separator on MacOS Mojave 10.14

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Hello,

I just upgraded from MacOS 10.13 High Sierra to 10.14.6 Mojave.

Since upgrade, GnuCash uses the period instead of comma as decimal separator.

All existing transactions are shown with 123.45 instead of 123,45 and when 
entering new transactions I need to use the period as decimal separator.  Also, 
I get an error when GnuCash tries to apply a scheduled transaction (since 
scheduled transactions were created with comma as decimal separator)

I checked settings in GnuCash : Preferences/Account/Default Currency shows 
Canadian Dollars.

The settings in MacOS seems to be correct also : System Preferences/Language 
and Region is set to Canada and the money example is 4 567,89 .  Clicking 
Advanced, the decimal separator for both numbers and money is set to comma 
(default value for Canada).

Other software (OpenOffice) uses the comma as expected.

Any hints ?

Thanks,

Yves Forget

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[GNC] OSX crash on exit GnuCash 4.4.1 and 4.4.2

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Hello,

I upgraded recently from GnuCash 4.1.2 to GnuCash 4.4.1 on OSX.  The app works 
fine, but crashes when I quit.

I’ve seen a commit on January 25 that I believe would fix this issue.

I’ve downloaded 4.4.2 from SourceForge, but I still get the issue.  The about 
box says Build ID 4.4+ (2020-12-28), so I’m not sure I got the right thing.

This is not a major issue, but I just wanted to be sure the bug is not supposed 
to be fixed in 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 .

Thanks !

Yves

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Re: [GNC] arrggghhh - happening again!

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Are you on a laptop sometimes attached to an external display?  Maybe the 
windows are opening outside of your screen. I get this often, even with 
Microsoft applications. 

Yves

Envoyé de mon iPhone

> Le 3 janv. 2021 à 19:36, alessandra derniat <4san...@live.com> a écrit :
> 
> I go to open GnuCash and it shows as open in my task bar but when clicked 
> will not expand to allow me to actually work with it. So I see the program 
> open in my taskbar and when I scroll over it I can see my books but I can’t 
> work on them. This happened a few months ago but before I could implement any 
> suggested fixes it starting working again without me doing anything.
> 
> What’s the problem? What’s going on? Am I doing something wrong? All I did 
> was open the program!
> Thanks to anyone who can help me.
> Sandy
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: [GNC] Can't get GNUCASH to work on OSX

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Hello,

First, I’m a few days late.  Second, the crash seems to happen only the first 
time after the app has been installed, so fixing this bug may not be the top 
priority of Gnucash developers.  Anyways, here’s what I found.

I’m running High Sierra 10.13.6.  I’m using GnuCash for a couple of years now.  
Back in September, I saw GnuCash version 4 was out, and downloaded 4.1.2, but 
didn’t install it at that time.  Last week I installed it (4.1.2).  The first 
time I started the app, the icon bounced for a few seconds, then nothing.  I 
started the app again, and it worked.

After seeing this thread I looked in my Console app, and found a crash of 
GnuCash 4.1.2 on Dec 26.  The app did not crash since then, so this must be the 
crash on the first run after installing it.  Apple generated a crash file in 
~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticsReports.  The file is human readable.  On the top of 
the file I can see that the app crashed on an exception EXC_BAD_ACCESS 
(SIGSEGV).  Termination Signal 11 : Segmentation Fault.  I can provide the file 
if needed.

My Gnucash file is in SqLite format.  I don’t know if the problem is related to 
that.

I use VmWare Fusion on my Mac.  It allows me to run a copy of OSX as a « 
Virtual Machine ».  It allows me to run something in the VM, and then restore 
the VM to the original state.  Since the problem occurs only the first time the 
app is run after installing, restoring the VM might help.  If someone is 
interested with this issue, I could see if the bug is random or if I can 
reproduce it every time I start Gnucash after installing the new version, try 
with various file formats, etc.

If I can help further please let me know !

Thanks,

Yves

> Le 29 déc. 2020 à 15:58, David H  a écrit :
> 
> Ralph,
> 
> Go to system prefs under Security and Policy and see if there's  a prompt
> to allow Gnucash to run - working from memory here so I think that's where
> it used to show up for me.
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Check your system prefs under Security and Policy - I have "Allow apps
> downloaded from:" set to "App Store and identified developers" and don't
> get prompted to allow a new version to run.  All I ever do is mount and
> open the dmg, CTRL-A to select all files and in Applications CTRL-V to
> paste and select copy over if I already have Gnucash installed.
> 
> Cheers David H.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 22:16, Michael Hendry 
> wrote:
> 
>>> On 29 Dec 2020, at 12:08, Ralph Musto via gnucash-user <
>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI all,
>>> I have been trying to install GNUCASH on OSX 10.14.6 but with no
>> success. New set-up, fresh install.
>>> 
>>> After download and moving the app to Applications. When I run it the
>> Icon bounces in the dock for a second or two and then just disappears. No
>> error messages, nothing.
>>> 
>>> Anybody know how I can find out and fix what is wrong?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ralph
>> 
>> Just try running it again - this appears to be a “feature” of MacOS.
>> 
>> I downloaded, installed and ran “Check and Repair” on all my books this
>> morning, but I did have to run the new version twice.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
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[GNC] Income statement with transactions

[Yves Forget via gnucash-user]

I am trying to get a report similar to the Income Statement (Revenues and 
expenses, with subtotals by account), but with transactions instead of just the 
summary for each account.

I went with the Transactions Report and got pretty close with the following : 
account name as primary key and date and secondary key.  With account in 
ascending order, I get Expenses before Revenues.  Revenues first would be 
better but I can live with that.

My main problem is that the report shows only the account name of the 
bottom-level account.  The sort seems to be on the full name (Expenses:Car:Gas) 
but it shows only Gas in the report.

Is there any way to get that with existing reports ?  Should I use another 
report instead of the Transactions Report to achieve this purpose ?

Thanks,

Yves

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Re: [GNC] Decimal separator on Gnucash 3.2 Mac (fixed !!!)

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Problem fixed.  I thought I’d share with the list in case the problem happens 
to someone else.

I installed GnuCash short after upgrading from OSX 10.9 to 10.13.  Gnucash uses 
period as decimal separator, while here in French Canada decimal separator 
should be comma.

After asking the list I saw that Quicken 2015 for Mac did the same.  Annoying 
that my numeric keypad would send comma but GnuCash and Quicken both want a 
period.

I’m sure Quicken worked fine on 10.9 (displaying and expecting comma), because 
in old printed reports I got the comma as decimal separator.

Today I noticed that in System Preferences/Language and region, my preferred 
regions were French Canada and English Canada, with French Canada as main 
region.  If I remove English Canada (keeping only French Canada), both Gnucash 
and Quicken want a comma.  Bring back English Canada (with French Canada as 
main region), both want a period.

Seems to be a bug on Apple’s side, where locale is set to EN_CA even if main 
region is French Canada.

So I kept only French Canada in region preferences and everything works fine.

Thanks,

Yves Forget


> Le 3 juill. 2018 à 12:33, John Ralls  a écrit :
> 
> Yves,
> 
> And just for completeness I added a line to read NSLocaleDecimalSeparator and 
> then examined it in the debugger. It's '.', consistent with the locale being 
> en_CA instead of fr_CA. 
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2018, at 7:57 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> Yves,
>> 
>> No, unfortunately querying NSLocaleDecimalSeparator and friends  won’t help. 
>> GnuCash depends at least partly on libc functions like printf (and their C++ 
>> equivalents) for formatting, and those functions in turn depend on a locale 
>> being set in the environment. They use that locale to retrieve information 
>> like decimal separator from the files in /usr/share/locale. In the case at 
>> hand, LC_MONETARY. The fact that NSLocaleLanguageCode returns en_CA instead 
>> of fr_CA causes the wrong LC_MONETARY to be consulted.
>> 
>> Given that GnuCash needs to work on Windows and other Unixes besides MacOS, 
>> the only alternative that I know of is ICU. WebKit uses it so it’s already a 
>> dependency but it would be a lot of work to convert; the API would need to 
>> be made available to Scheme as well for the reports because Guile also uses 
>> libc localization. It’s likely a multi-year project for a single programmer. 
>> (Well, multi-month at 40 hours/week.) Wanna volunteer?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Yves Forget  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> Running from the terminal I still get period.  In the terminal I got the 
>>> following trace.
>>> 
>>> (process:1976): gnc.gui-WARNING **: 18:35:55.003: [mac_set_languages()] 
>>> Language list: en:fr_CA:en_CA:C
>>> 
>>> I just downloaded the sources from GitHub, and looked at 
>>> [mac_set_languages()].  Foundation offers global variables 
>>> NsLocaleDecimalSeparator, NSLocaleGroupingSeparator and 
>>> NSLocaleCurrencySymbol, among others.  These variables would bring directly 
>>> the values mac_set_languages() is trying to get.  Furthermore, if a user 
>>> changes the decimal separator in the Advanced panel of the Language and 
>>> Region system preferences, gnu cash would get the expected separator 
>>> instead of the locale’s default separator.  Is it something that could be 
>>> changed without breaking a lot of things in the app ?
>>> 
>>> Please don’t hesitate to tell me if I’m completely wrong…
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Yves
>>> 
>>>> Le 2 juill. 2018 à 18:43, John Ralls >>> <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> I tested this a bit in the debugger and I with French as the primary 
>>>> language and Canada as the country [currentlocale objectForKey:  
>>>> NSLocaleLanguageCode] insists that the code in en, not French. If I tell 
>>>> System Prefs I'm in France it gets the right answer, so it might be an 
>>>> Apple bug.
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately setting LANG in the environment, though it will set the 
>>>> interface language, doesn't seem to change the number display, so there 
>>>> doesn't seem to be a way to force it at present.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 2, 2018, at 2:59 PM, John Ralls >>>> <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
>>>>>

Re: [GNC] Decimal separator on Gnucash 3.2 Mac

[Yves Forget via gnucash-user]

   Hi John,
   Running from the terminal I still get period.  In the terminal I got
   the following trace.
   (process:1976): gnc.gui-WARNING **: 18:35:55.003: [mac_set_languages()]
   Language list: en:fr_CA:en_CA:C
   I just downloaded the sources from GitHub, and looked
   at [mac_set_languages()].  Foundation offers global variables
   NsLocaleDecimalSeparator, NSLocaleGroupingSeparator and
   NSLocaleCurrencySymbol, among others.  These variables would bring
   directly the values mac_set_languages() is trying to get.  Furthermore,
   if a user changes the decimal separator in the Advanced panel of the
   Language and Region system preferences, gnu cash would get the expected
   separator instead of the locale’s default separator.  Is it something
   that could be changed without breaking a lot of things in the app ?
   Please don’t hesitate to tell me if I’m completely wrong…
   Thanks,
   Yves

   Le 2 juill. 2018 à 18:43, John Ralls <[1]jra...@ceridwen.us> a écrit :

   I tested this a bit in the debugger and I with French as the primary
   language and Canada as the country [currentlocale objectForKey:
   NSLocaleLanguageCode] insists that the code in en, not French. If I
   tell System Prefs I'm in France it gets the right answer, so it might
   be an Apple bug.
   Unfortunately setting LANG in the environment, though it will set the
   interface language, doesn't seem to change the number display, so there
   doesn't seem to be a way to force it at present.
   Regards,
   John Ralls

 On Jul 2, 2018, at 2:59 PM, John Ralls <[2]jra...@ceridwen.us>
 wrote:
 If you run GnuCash from a Terminal prompt do you get the right
 separator?
 Regards,
 John Ralls

 On Jul 2, 2018, at 1:42 PM, Yves Forget via gnucash-user
 <[3]gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
 System Preferences/Language and Region says Region = Canada and
 language = french.  Advanced shows decimal separator is comma and
 thousands separator is space.  (These are default values for French
 Canada).
 Environment variable LANG=fr_CA.UTF_8
 OpenOffice correctly uses comma as decimal separator.
 Is Gnucash supposed to use the parameters from the locale ?  Is
 there a way to force it ?
 Thanks,
 Yves Forget
  Le lundi 2 juillet 2018 15h48, R. Victor Klassen
 <[4]rvklas...@gmail.com> a écrit :
 Maybe in Quebec it is a comma.  In the rest of the country it is a
 period.
 There should be a different locale for fr-canada than for en-canada.
  I don’t know what else would differ across locales though.

 On Jul 2, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Yves Forget via gnucash-user
 <[5]gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
 I’m new to GnuCash and just installed GnuCash 3.2 on Mac. OS X 10.13
 Gnucash uses the period as decimal separator instead of my locale’s
 separator.  Here in Canada it should be comma.
 Should Gnucash use the decimal separator of my locale, or is it
 always
 period ?  Is there a way to configure it within GnuCash ?
 Thanks,
 Yves Forget
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Re: [GNC] Decimal separator on Gnucash 3.2 Mac

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Hi John,

Running from the terminal I still get period.  In the terminal I got the 
following trace.

(process:1976): gnc.gui-WARNING **: 18:35:55.003: [mac_set_languages()] 
Language list: en:fr_CA:en_CA:C

I just downloaded the sources from GitHub, and looked at [mac_set_languages()]. 
 Foundation offers global variables NsLocaleDecimalSeparator, 
NSLocaleGroupingSeparator and NSLocaleCurrencySymbol, among others.  These 
variables would bring directly the values mac_set_languages() is trying to get. 
 Furthermore, if a user changes the decimal separator in the Advanced panel of 
the Language and Region system preferences, gnu cash would get the expected 
separator instead of the locale’s default separator.  Is it something that 
could be changed without breaking a lot of things in the app ?

Please don’t hesitate to tell me if I’m completely wrong…

Thanks,

Yves

> Le 2 juill. 2018 à 18:43, John Ralls  <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> a écrit :
> 
> I tested this a bit in the debugger and I with French as the primary language 
> and Canada as the country [currentlocale objectForKey:  NSLocaleLanguageCode] 
> insists that the code in en, not French. If I tell System Prefs I'm in France 
> it gets the right answer, so it might be an Apple bug.
> 
> Unfortunately setting LANG in the environment, though it will set the 
> interface language, doesn't seem to change the number display, so there 
> doesn't seem to be a way to force it at present.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2018, at 2:59 PM, John Ralls > <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you run GnuCash from a Terminal prompt do you get the right separator?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2018, at 1:42 PM, Yves Forget via gnucash-user 
>>> mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> System Preferences/Language and Region says Region = Canada and language = 
>>> french.  Advanced shows decimal separator is comma and thousands separator 
>>> is space.  (These are default values for French Canada).
>>> Environment variable LANG=fr_CA.UTF_8
>>> OpenOffice correctly uses comma as decimal separator.
>>> Is Gnucash supposed to use the parameters from the locale ?  Is there a way 
>>> to force it ?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Yves Forget
>>> 
>>>  Le lundi 2 juillet 2018 15h48, R. Victor Klassen >> <mailto:rvklas...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe in Quebec it is a comma.  In the rest of the country it is a period.  
>>> 
>>> There should be a different locale for fr-canada than for en-canada.  I 
>>> don’t know what else would differ across locales though.
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Yves Forget via gnucash-user 
>>>> mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m new to GnuCash and just installed GnuCash 3.2 on Mac. OS X 10.13
>>>> Gnucash uses the period as decimal separator instead of my locale’s
>>>> separator.  Here in Canada it should be comma.
>>>> Should Gnucash use the decimal separator of my locale, or is it always
>>>> period ?  Is there a way to configure it within GnuCash ?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Yves Forget
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Re: [GNC] Decimal separator on Gnucash 3.2 Mac

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System Preferences/Language and Region says Region = Canada and language = 
french.  Advanced shows decimal separator is comma and thousands separator is 
space.  (These are default values for French Canada).
Environment variable LANG=fr_CA.UTF_8
OpenOffice correctly uses comma as decimal separator.
Is Gnucash supposed to use the parameters from the locale ?  Is there a way to 
force it ?
 Thanks,
Yves Forget

Le lundi 2 juillet 2018 15h48, R. Victor Klassen  a 
écrit :
 

 Maybe in Quebec it is a comma.  In the rest of the country it is a period.  

There should be a different locale for fr-canada than for en-canada.  I don’t 
know what else would differ across locales though.

> On Jul 2, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Yves Forget via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
>  I’m new to GnuCash and just installed GnuCash 3.2 on Mac. OS X 10.13
>  Gnucash uses the period as decimal separator instead of my locale’s
>  separator.  Here in Canada it should be comma.
>  Should Gnucash use the decimal separator of my locale, or is it always
>  period ?  Is there a way to configure it within GnuCash ?
>  Thanks,
>  Yves Forget
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[GNC] Decimal separator on Gnucash 3.2 Mac

[Yves Forget via gnucash-user]

   I’m new to GnuCash and just installed GnuCash 3.2 on Mac. OS X 10.13
   Gnucash uses the period as decimal separator instead of my locale’s
   separator.  Here in Canada it should be comma.
   Should Gnucash use the decimal separator of my locale, or is it always
   period ?  Is there a way to configure it within GnuCash ?
   Thanks,
   Yves Forget
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[GNC] Quicken 2015 for Mac to GnuCash

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Hi everyone,

I’m trying to migrate from Quicken 2015 for Mac to GnuCash.

I’ve seen the recommended way to import is using a qif file, but unfortunately 
Quicken 2015 for Mac doesn’t offer qif export.  I went through the GnuCash Help 
manual and the GnuCash Tutorials and Concepts Guide, no success.

I tried all export formats supported by Quicken 2015 Mac, but didn’t find 
anything useful :

Quicken uses a sqlite3 file as its standard save file.

I can export to .qxf (not .qfx)  (Quicken For Windows Transfert File)  It’s a 
binary file that GnuCash doesn’t seem to recognize.

I can also export to .qmtf (Quicken for Mac 2007 Transfer File).  Is a text 
file similar to the .qif file, but is not recognized by GnuCash.  (I even tried 
to rename the file to .qif, still no success)

Finally, I can export to a .csv file (no accounts, just « Register Transactions 
»).  GnuCash’s preview of imported transactions shows nothing, so my .csv file 
may not be what GnuCash expects.



I have about 10 years of history in Quicken, so I would prefer to bring my 
history to GnuCash instead of starting with an empty database.  What’s the 
easiest way to get my data into GnuCash ?

I’ve seen at the end of the Help Manual an example awk script to convert a .csv 
file to a .qif file.  Could bring transactions but will probably need to create 
accounts manually before importing transactions.

I can write awk/sed/vi scripts if needed.  The QIF file format is documented 
quite well on Wikipedia, so I may be able to fix my .qmtf file into a valid 
.qif file for GnuCash.  

Quicken 2015 internal format is a sqlite3 database.  The file is readable, so 
if I find where transactions are stored I may be able to while a SQL query to 
generate a QIF file.



Any suggestions ?



Thanks,

Yves Forget
yves_for...@yahoo.ca

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