Re: [GNC] Backup Module

2020-03-24 Thread A Harvey
Wait!  EMACS already supports double-entry bookkeeping. :-)
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryFinancial


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 2:28 PM Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> On 3/24/20 9:32 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> > On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote:
> >> Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the
> >> menu bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is
> >> commonly found in some programs?   Backing up to the hardrive is
> >> currently automatic but saving to a disc or memory stick, for off site
> >> storage could be made simpler for the less technically inclined user.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Leo
> >
> > Would not be hard to do BUT would foster bad practice with regard to
> > backup procedures. Do you really want to back up all the data on your
> > computer file by file? The point is, it is not just your gnucash data
> > that needs backup but ALL your user data. And if there is a process
> > whereby all your user data is backed up, a special process to back up
> > gnucash data is redundant.
>
> If you are going to put all kinds of things into GnuCash, why not a web
> browser, an e-mail program, etc.? Pretty soon it will end up like emacs,
> where you pretty much can do anything within the one program, but it may
> drive you nuts trying to figure out how.
>
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Re: [GNC] Backup Module

2020-03-24 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user
On 3/24/20 9:32 AM, Michael or Penny Novack wrote:
> On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote:
>> Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the
>> menu bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is
>> commonly found in some programs?   Backing up to the hardrive is
>> currently automatic but saving to a disc or memory stick, for off site
>> storage could be made simpler for the less technically inclined user.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Leo
> 
> Would not be hard to do BUT would foster bad practice with regard to
> backup procedures. Do you really want to back up all the data on your
> computer file by file? The point is, it is not just your gnucash data
> that needs backup but ALL your user data. And if there is a process
> whereby all your user data is backed up, a special process to back up
> gnucash data is redundant.

If you are going to put all kinds of things into GnuCash, why not a web
browser, an e-mail program, etc.? Pretty soon it will end up like emacs,
where you pretty much can do anything within the one program, but it may
drive you nuts trying to figure out how.

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Re: [GNC] Backup Module

2020-03-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone
As Michael notes, there is more than just a data file. Preferences are stored 
separately as are saved report configurations, and any interface 
customizations. (such as if one uses a custom CSS file) And they aren’t just 
stored in separate files, they are also in different directories.

Better to just manage backups for your entire user profile or the entire 
machine than just a one-off copy of the data file. It would also add code that 
adds technical debt to maintain when there are already existing backup 
mechanisms outside of GnuCash.

Regards,
Adrien

> On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote:
> Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the menu 
> bar, as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is commonly found in 
> some programs?   Backing up to the hardrive is currently automatic but saving 
> to a disc or memory stick, for off site storage could be made simpler for the 
> less technically inclined user.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Leo

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Re: [GNC] Backup Module

2020-03-24 Thread Michael DeBusk
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:36 AM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> a special process to back up gnucash data is redundant.

While I agree that adding this feature to the application would be a poor
idea, I do see the point.

I back up my hard drive to an external drive, sure. And there are certain
data that I also back up to multiple other places... information that is so
important to me that losing it is an insufferable idea. My Gnucash file is
one of those. (Another is my password safe data, for example.)

I back these up manually to multiple places whenever I change them. It
works for me. If I changed them more often, I might set up a cron job to
make encrypted copies and move them to where I want them.

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Re: [GNC] Backup Module

2020-03-24 Thread Michael or Penny Novack

On 3/24/2020 7:58 AM, lbo...@rogers.com wrote:

Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the menu bar, as a 
pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is commonly found in some 
programs?   Backing up to the hardrive is currently automatic but saving to a disc or 
memory stick, for off site storage could be made simpler for the less technically 
inclined user.

Thanks,

Leo


Would not be hard to do BUT would foster bad practice with regard to 
backup procedures. Do you really want to back up all the data on your 
computer file by file? The point is, it is not just your gnucash data 
that needs backup but ALL your user data. And if there is a process 
whereby all your user data is backed up, a special process to back up 
gnucash data is redundant.


Look at procedures/process alternatives for general backup. Which would 
work best for you. There are lots of alternatives.


Michael D Novack


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[GNC] Backup Module

2020-03-24 Thread lbo...@rogers.com
Would it be possible to incorporate a backup module function into the menu bar, 
as a pull-down feature under the heading "File", as is commonly found in some 
programs?   Backing up to the hardrive is currently automatic but saving to a 
disc or memory stick, for off site storage could be made simpler for the less 
technically inclined user.

Thanks,

Leo
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