Re: [GNC] QIF import - Loss of sign
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:16 PM Rustyc wrote: > Have read manuals, set up a chart of accounts and started by importing a > QIF file of bank transactions thinking this would be the quickest way to > get going. > When you performed the import process, there's a step where you are supposed to assign accounts for each transaction. It sounds like you skipped it. If you start over, delete the account and recreate it, or start from a backup, and assign the accounts as you import, then this will also train the importer to auto-assign for future imports. I'll explain below how to edit them from the current state if you'd rather do that. > I end up with two entries for each transaction but there is no indication > of which entry is for the bank transaction and which is the one I have to > assign to another GnuCash account (which is what I presume is what is > required). The plus and minus signs in the QIF have disappeared. Am I > missing something? > GnuCash never displays a minus sign. Instead, you should find that a line has an amount in one of the two columns, but never both. It's a different way of displaying the same information. Also the manual states that “Debit and Credit” terms can be replaced with > “Deposit and Withdrawal” for newbies. However, Account view shows columns > labelled “Increase and Decrease”. Confusing! Can someone explain. If you don't have "formal accounting terms" turned on then GnuCash will use different terms depending on the type of the account, attempting to refer to what you are (usually) doing when that type of transaction occurs. "Deposit" and "Withdrawal" are used for bank accounts. "Payment" and "Charge" are used for credit cards. "Expense" and "Rebate" are used for expense accounts. ...and so on. "Increase" and "Decrease" are the generic terms for account types that don't have specific terms. Increases (in the value of that account) are always in the left column and decreases are always in the right column. So for example, if you wanted to correct a transaction that is *outgoing* money, in a bank account, and erroneously pointing back to the same account instead of an expense account, you would find the version of it which has the amount listed in the "Withdrawal" column, then edit the "Transfer" column to specify the correct other account. Once you complete that, the second copy in the same account's register will disappear. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] QIF import - Loss of sign
On Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:37:15 GMT Rustyc wrote: > Derek - Second question re your response: > > > > Edit the account in question and check on the account type. > > Looked at the Account but could not see an option anywhere to specify > "Account Type" - apart from "Asset", "Expense" etc. Does it depend on > Account Code or Name (in some way)? > Hi Rusty. That sounds like you are in the correct dialogue box - the "Account Type" dropdown should have "Bank" and "Credit Card" and several others including Asset & Expense you mention. Just set the Bank account to type "Bank" and put it in the Assets parent section in your tree. (you can re-parent accounts at any time if you find you need to make the tree more complicated, eg a folder of different bank accounts etc.) HTH, Maf. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] QIF import - Loss of sign
Hi - Absolute newbie here trying to learn accounting techniques as well as GnuCash at the same time. Have read manuals, set up a chart of accounts and started by importing a QIF file of bank transactions thinking this would be the quickest way to get going. I end up with two entries for each transaction but there is no indication of which entry is for the bank transaction and which is the one I have to assign to another GnuCash account (which is what I presume is what is required). The plus and minus signs in the QIF have disappeared. Am I missing something? Also the manual states that “Debit and Credit” terms can be replaced with “Deposit and Withdrawal” for newbies. However, Account view shows columns labelled “Increase and Decrease”. Confusing! Can someone explain. -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] QIF import - Loss of sign
Derek - Second question re your response: Derek Atkins-3 wrote >> Also, the manual states that “Debit and Credit” terms can be replaced >> with >> “Deposit and Withdrawal” for newbies. However, Account view shows columns >> labelled “Increase and Decrease”. Confusing! > > The headings are based on the exact account type. If you use a Bank, it > will be Deposit and Withdrawal. If it's a credit card, Charge and > Payment. Increase and Decrease are for generic Asset accounts. > > Edit the account in question and check on the account type. Looked at the Account but could not see an option anywhere to specify "Account Type" - apart from "Asset", "Expense" etc. Does it depend on Account Code or Name (in some way)? -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] QIF import - Loss of sign
Derek - Thanks for the explanation. I did sort out my "loss of sign" problem by re-importing and specifying different accounts. My problem now is that the QIF only has categories: DEP, WDL, JCR, JDR, TCR, TDR; which don't match to any one Account in my GC CofA. No big drama there as I thought I could do some matching when it gets to the "Match payees/memos to GC accounts" step. However my imported just skips that step and goes straight to "Tradable commodities". Any idea why? I then tried the import .CSV which seemed to have some Bayesian matching capability but that was only for matching with existing transactions. Again, any help appreciated!! -Russ -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] QIF import - Loss of sign
Hi, On Fri, February 22, 2019 8:03 pm, Rustyc wrote: > > Tried posting this yesterday before I was fully "registered" - Hope it > doesn't appear twice. It will, once Liz clears the moderation queue.. Unless Liz recognizes the duplication. :) I wouldn't worry about it. [snip] > In case this is not clear I’ll give actual numbers. The QIF files has > entries such as: > D26/06/18 > T-38.50 > PPAY ANYONE ANZxxxL EGGS 0139314487BILL > ^ > D01/07/18 > T7.31 > PINTEREST > ^ > This shows a deposit (interest) and a withdrawal from the bank account. > When > imported into GnuCash I end up with 4 lines in the “Account” page. Each > transaction is listed twice – once with the amount under Increase and once > with it under Decrease. And all have Account = “Bank account xxx” (under > “transfer”). > > Is this because I specified “Bank Account xxx” somewhere during the import > process? (I was not sure what GC was asking at each stage!). Yes. It means you specified the same GnuCash account as the source and destination of the transaction. I.e., you said "I took $100 from BANK and sent it to BANK". This is probably not what you intended. > Can someone maybe explain in simple terms how to import bank data and use > it > to populate all transactions (rather than entering transactions and then > assigning each transaction to an existing entry)? Yes. Let's say you have a QIF file called 'bank.qif'. GnuCash will assume this is for the QIF Account named 'bank'. All transactions in this file will be associated with 'bank', and then you need to map each transaction to the correct destination account. The Importer will first ask you to map the QIF Account "bank" to some GnuCash (asset) account. So for example, Assets:SunTrust:Checking. There may be other QIF accounts in the file, and those too should map to GnuCash Asset and Liability accounts. Then it will ask you to match the Categories, which you should map to GnuCash Income/Expense accounts. Finally, it will ask you to match the Payee/Memo lines (which is what you have here). These you will also need to map correctly to the Income/Expense accounts. So for example, you should map "INTEREST" to, e.g. Income:Interest and "PAY ANYONE ANZxxxL EGGS 0139314487BILL" to, e.g., Expenses:Groceries. Your mistake is that you mapped each of these payees/memos to the same (bank) account that you mapped bank to. > Also, the manual states that “Debit and Credit” terms can be replaced with > “Deposit and Withdrawal” for newbies. However, Account view shows columns > labelled “Increase and Decrease”. Confusing! The headings are based on the exact account type. If you use a Bank, it will be Deposit and Withdrawal. If it's a credit card, Charge and Payment. Increase and Decrease are for generic Asset accounts. Edit the account in question and check on the account type. > Any help appreciated! Hope this helped, > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] QIF import - Loss of sign
Tried posting this yesterday before I was fully "registered" - Hope it doesn't appear twice. Hi - Absolute newbie here trying to learn accounting techniques as well as GnuCash at the same time. Have done some “Intro to Accounting” exercises, read GnuCash manuals, set up a chart of accounts and started by importing a QIF file of bank transactions thinking this would be the quickest way to get going. I end up with two entries for each transaction but there is no indication of which entry is for the bank transaction and which is the one I have to assign to another GnuCash account (which is what I presume is what is required). The plus and minus signs in the QIF have disappeared. Am I missing something? In case this is not clear I’ll give actual numbers. The QIF files has entries such as: D26/06/18 T-38.50 PPAY ANYONE ANZxxxL EGGS 0139314487BILL ^ D01/07/18 T7.31 PINTEREST ^ This shows a deposit (interest) and a withdrawal from the bank account. When imported into GnuCash I end up with 4 lines in the “Account” page. Each transaction is listed twice – once with the amount under Increase and once with it under Decrease. And all have Account = “Bank account xxx” (under “transfer”). Is this because I specified “Bank Account xxx” somewhere during the import process? (I was not sure what GC was asking at each stage!). Can someone maybe explain in simple terms how to import bank data and use it to populate all transactions (rather than entering transactions and then assigning each transaction to an existing entry)? Also, the manual states that “Debit and Credit” terms can be replaced with “Deposit and Withdrawal” for newbies. However, Account view shows columns labelled “Increase and Decrease”. Confusing! Any help appreciated! -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
