Re: [GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Booth via gnucash-user

Hi Alan,
To update F::Q on windows
You would go to start menu and then to gnucash menu, in there you
should find update online quotes, this will update F::Q
However, I would recommend you update GC now to the latest version
4.12.
regards,
Martin






On Wed, 2022-11-30 at 16:07 +, aeg wrote:
> Hi Martin,
> 
> Thank you for your very helpful response.
> 
> I can confirm that I have a free Alpha Vantage API key setup in
> Preferences, which I assume is valid because when I tried to obtain a
> new one, (just in case that was the problem), Alpha Vantage confirmed
> that I already have one.
> 
> I'm using OS Windows 10 and GnuCash version 3.5.
> I haven't been aware of a Finance::Quote version, and didn't know
> where to look for it, but I've just discovered that it's 1.47 and
> presumably the problem, as you've indicated. Is that something I can
> update separately, or will I have to update to the current GC
> version?
> 
> The online quotes have previously been set to retrieve from
> Alphavantage, US, which worked without any hitches until early
> November (my last successful download was 4 November), so I guess
> that's around the time the rules changed. I've tried changing to
> Yahoo as JSON, but without success.
> 
> Regards,
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, 30 November 2022 at 09:05:01 GMT, Martin Booth
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> Hi Alan,
> I am also UK based and you need to check the following.
> 
> You have a valid free Alpha Vantage API key setup in preferences for
> on-line quotes
> 
> You have the latest on-line stock retrieval at least Finance::Quote:
> 1.53 otherwise your quotes will not download (this is probably the
> issue as Alpha Vantage changed the retrieval requirements and the
> F::Q needed an update.)
> 
> Check you have set your on-line quotes to retrieve from Yahoo as JSON
> in Security Editor for stock quotes. This works fine for me.
> 
> Then you should be fine.
> 
> You did not say which OS you are running or the GNU Cash version with
> F::Q version, therefore depending upon OS the updates to F::Q are
> different.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> regards,
> Martin
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, 30 November 2022 at 08:40:48 GMT, aeg via gnucash-user
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> It's interesting to note that Alpha Vantage is still recommended to
> GnuCash users and is available to some, as it stopped working for me
> a few weeks ago. When I contacted the Alpha Vantage Team, I was told
> that I needed to contribute to the premium plan, at a minimum cost of
> 49.99 USD per month, despite the fact that I've only been using the
> service once per week to retrieve 5 stock price updates. How are
> others still able to use the service free of charge?
> I'm based in the UK, so I'd be interested to know how other UK users
> obtain updates to their stock prices.
> Regards,AlanG
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 15:24:16 -0600
> From: R Losey 
> 
> 
> Alphavantage is now the default, and you have to get a free ID to use
> the
> service (there is information regarding how to acquire an ID).
> 
> Be aware, though -- Alphavantage adds a one-minute delay for each set
> of
> five stocks you update. (That is, five stocks will take seconds, but
> six
> stocks will take over a minute).
> 
> I changed to what David suggested for my stock updates. I would
> prefer to
> have Multiple, but not use Alphavantage, but that doesn't seem to be
> an
> option at present.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-30 Thread R Losey
Interesting; I just attempted to set this up a few weeks ago... I went to
their web site and signed up for the free ID code.

Maybe they check the IP address and it is not available in the UK? I hope
you will hear from others...

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 2:39 AM aeg via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

>  It's interesting to note that Alpha Vantage is still recommended to
> GnuCash users and is available to some, as it stopped working for me a few
> weeks ago. When I contacted the Alpha Vantage Team, I was told that I
> needed to contribute to the premium plan, at a minimum cost of 49.99 USD
> per month, despite the fact that I've only been using the service once per
> week to retrieve 5 stock price updates. How are others still able to use
> the service free of charge?
> I'm based in the UK, so I'd be interested to know how other UK users
> obtain updates to their stock prices.
> Regards,AlanG
>
>
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Re: [GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-30 Thread aeg via gnucash-user
 Hi David,
Thank you for your detailed response, which is very helpful.I've tried updating 
the Finance::Quote as you suggested, but it appears that some prerequisites are 
missing, so I need to investigate how to install those, and will try again 
tomorrow if I have time. I've downloaded the latest version of Perl, and 
feeling my way with this.
You're right when you say that I ought to upgrade GC to the latest version, and 
I would normally have done that routinely through the versions, but I 
experienced substantial interface changes when I upgraded from 2.6 to 3.5, 
which took a significant amount of time and effort to resolve, so I've feared 
further trauma with subsequent updates and resisted installing them while the 
software has been working well. I will update as soon as I find the time to 
deal with any undesirable consequences!
Regards,Alan
On Wednesday, 30 November 2022 at 20:12:08 GMT, David H  
wrote:  
 
 You should find some Finance Quote Perl scripts (gnc-fq-check/update/etc) in 
"C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin". You can run these using Perl by opening a 
command prompt and entering for example perl "C:\Program Files 
(x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-check" - you need the quotes around the 
C:\..check as the path contains a space.  You can read all about it at 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes.  If your setup is good this will 
display something along the following lines  including the version - 1.5301 in 
my case...
perl "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-check"
("1.5301" "aex" "alphavantage" "amfiindia" "asegr" "asx" "aufunds" "australia" 
"bamosz" "bet" "bloomberg" "bourso" "bse" "bseindia" "canada" "canadamutual" 
"comdirect" "cse" "deka" "dutch" "dwsfunds" "europe" "fetch_live_currencies" 
"fidelity" "fidelity_direct" "finanzpartner" "fondsweb" "fool" "france" 
"ftfunds" "fundata" "fundlibrary" "goldmoney" "greece" "hu" "hufund" "hungary" 
"hustock" "iexcloud" "india" "indiamutual" "known_currencies" "morningstarau" 
"morningstarch" "morningstarjp" "mstaruk" "nasdaq" "nseindia" "nyse" "nzx" 
"onvista" "oslobors" "romania" "seb_funds" "six" "tesouro_direto" "tiaacref" 
"tmx" "tradeville" "treasurydirect" "troweprice" "troweprice_direct" "tsp" 
"ukfunds" "unionfunds" "usa" "yahoo_json" "za")

You can also run perl "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-update" to 
update your Finance Quote - this can take a few minutes, like 5 - 10, and quite 
a bit of scrolling :-)
Check your perl version by running "perl -v" in a command prompt - eg...
perl -v

This is perl 5, version 32, subversion 1 (v5.32.1) built for 
MSWin32-x86-multi-thread-64int

Copyright 1987-2021, Larry Wall

Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the
GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit.

Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on
this system using "man perl" or "perldoc perl".  If you have access to the
Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.org/, the Perl Home Page.

You also mention you're running Gnucash 3.5 - this was released in April 2019 
by the look of things so is well out of date and we are now up to 4.12 with 
lots of bug fixes and enhancements in that time so I suggest the first thing 
you should be looking at is upgrading to the current version 4.12. I'm not sure 
but you may have to download 4.0 first and install that before you install 4.12 
as from memory there were some significant changes in 4.0 and it takes a little 
while on first opening your gnucash file with this version while it does things 
initially and can even look like it's hung? Do a google search on 
"site:lists.gnucash.org upgrade" if you want to research the upgrade details.
Cheers David H.  




  
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Re: [GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-30 Thread David H
You should find some Finance Quote Perl scripts (gnc-fq-check/update/etc)
in "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin". You can run these using Perl by
opening a command prompt and entering for example perl "C:\Program Files
(x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-check" - you need the quotes around the
C:\..check as the path contains a space.  You can read all about it
at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes.  If your setup is good this
will display something along the following lines  including the version -
1.5301 in my case...

perl "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-check"
("1.5301" "aex" "alphavantage" "amfiindia" "asegr" "asx" "aufunds"
"australia" "bamosz" "bet" "bloomberg" "bourso" "bse" "bseindia" "canada"
"canadamutual" "comdirect" "cse" "deka" "dutch" "dwsfunds" "europe"
"fetch_live_currencies" "fidelity" "fidelity_direct" "finanzpartner"
"fondsweb" "fool" "france" "ftfunds" "fundata" "fundlibrary" "goldmoney"
"greece" "hu" "hufund" "hungary" "hustock" "iexcloud" "india" "indiamutual"
"known_currencies" "morningstarau" "morningstarch" "morningstarjp"
"mstaruk" "nasdaq" "nseindia" "nyse" "nzx" "onvista" "oslobors" "romania"
"seb_funds" "six" "tesouro_direto" "tiaacref" "tmx" "tradeville"
"treasurydirect" "troweprice" "troweprice_direct" "tsp" "ukfunds"
"unionfunds" "usa" "yahoo_json" "za")

You can also run perl "C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-update" to
update your Finance Quote - this can take a few minutes, like 5 - 10, and
quite a bit of scrolling :-)

Check your perl version by running "perl -v" in a command prompt - eg...

perl -v

This is perl 5, version 32, subversion 1 (v5.32.1) built for
MSWin32-x86-multi-thread-64int

Copyright 1987-2021, Larry Wall

Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or
the
GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit.

Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on
this system using "man perl" or "perldoc perl".  If you have access to the
Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.org/, the Perl Home Page.

You also mention you're running Gnucash 3.5 - this was released in April
2019 by the look of things so is well out of date and we are now up to 4.12
with lots of bug fixes and enhancements in that time so I suggest the first
thing you should be looking at is upgrading to the current version 4.12.
I'm not sure but you may have to download 4.0 first and install that before
you install 4.12 as from memory there were some significant changes in 4.0
and it takes a little while on first opening your gnucash file with this
version while it does things initially and can even look like it's hung? Do
a google search on "site:lists.gnucash.org upgrade" if you want to research
the upgrade details.

Cheers David H.


On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 02:08, aeg via gnucash-user 
wrote:

>  Hi Martin,
> Thank you for your very helpful response.
> I can confirm that I have a free Alpha Vantage API key setup in
> Preferences, which I assume is valid because when I tried to obtain a new
> one, (just in case that was the problem), Alpha Vantage confirmed that I
> already have one.
> I'm using OS Windows 10 and GnuCash version 3.5.I haven't been aware of a
> Finance::Quote version, and didn't know where to look for it, but I've just
> discovered that it's 1.47 and presumably the problem, as you've indicated.
> Is that something I can update separately, or will I have to update to the
> current GC version?
> The online quotes have previously been set to retrieve from Alphavantage,
> US, which worked without any hitches until early November (my last
> successful download was 4 November), so I guess that's around the time the
> rules changed. I've tried changing to Yahoo as JSON, but without success.
> Regards,Alan
>
>
> On Wednesday, 30 November 2022 at 09:05:01 GMT, Martin Booth <
> mdj.bo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>   Hi Alan,I am also UK based and you need to check the following.
> You have a valid free Alpha Vantage API key setup in preferences for
> on-line quotes
> You have the latest on-line stock retrieval at least Finance::Quote: 1.53
> otherwise your quotes will not download (this is probably the issue as
> Alpha Vantage changed the retrieval requirements and the F::Q needed an
> update.)
>
> Check you have set your on-line quotes to retrieve from Yahoo as JSON in
> Security Editor for stock quotes. This works fine for me.
>
> Then you should be fine.
> You did not say which OS you are running or the GNU Cash version with F::Q
> version, therefore depending upon OS the updates to F::Q are different.
> I hope this helps.
>
> regards,Martin
>
> On Wednesday, 30 November 2022 at 08:40:48 GMT, aeg via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>
>   It's interesting to note that Alpha Vantage is still recommended to
> GnuCash users and is available to some, as it stopped working for me a few
> weeks ago. When I contacted the Alpha Vantage Team, I was told that I
> 

Re: [GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-30 Thread aeg via gnucash-user
 Hi Martin,
Thank you for your very helpful response.
I can confirm that I have a free Alpha Vantage API key setup in Preferences, 
which I assume is valid because when I tried to obtain a new one, (just in case 
that was the problem), Alpha Vantage confirmed that I already have one.
I'm using OS Windows 10 and GnuCash version 3.5.I haven't been aware of a 
Finance::Quote version, and didn't know where to look for it, but I've just 
discovered that it's 1.47 and presumably the problem, as you've indicated. Is 
that something I can update separately, or will I have to update to the current 
GC version?
The online quotes have previously been set to retrieve from Alphavantage, US, 
which worked without any hitches until early November (my last successful 
download was 4 November), so I guess that's around the time the rules changed. 
I've tried changing to Yahoo as JSON, but without success.
Regards,Alan


On Wednesday, 30 November 2022 at 09:05:01 GMT, Martin Booth 
 wrote:  
 
  Hi Alan,I am also UK based and you need to check the following.
You have a valid free Alpha Vantage API key setup in preferences for on-line 
quotes
You have the latest on-line stock retrieval at least Finance::Quote: 1.53 
otherwise your quotes will not download (this is probably the issue as Alpha 
Vantage changed the retrieval requirements and the F::Q needed an update.)

Check you have set your on-line quotes to retrieve from Yahoo as JSON in 
Security Editor for stock quotes. This works fine for me.
 
Then you should be fine.
You did not say which OS you are running or the GNU Cash version with F::Q 
version, therefore depending upon OS the updates to F::Q are different.
I hope this helps.

regards,Martin

On Wednesday, 30 November 2022 at 08:40:48 GMT, aeg via gnucash-user 
 wrote:  
 
  It's interesting to note that Alpha Vantage is still recommended to GnuCash 
users and is available to some, as it stopped working for me a few weeks ago. 
When I contacted the Alpha Vantage Team, I was told that I needed to contribute 
to the premium plan, at a minimum cost of 49.99 USD per month, despite the fact 
that I've only been using the service once per week to retrieve 5 stock price 
updates. How are others still able to use the service free of charge?
I'm based in the UK, so I'd be interested to know how other UK users obtain 
updates to their stock prices.
Regards,AlanG



  
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 15:24:16 -0600
From: R Losey 


Alphavantage is now the default, and you have to get a free ID to use the
service (there is information regarding how to acquire an ID).

Be aware, though -- Alphavantage adds a one-minute delay for each set of
five stocks you update. (That is, five stocks will take seconds, but six
stocks will take over a minute).

I changed to what David suggested for my stock updates. I would prefer to
have Multiple, but not use Alphavantage, but that doesn't seem to be an
option at present.


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Re: [GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-30 Thread David T. via gnucash-user
I believe that AlphaVantage is the "default" simply because it is 
alphabetically first in the list. And it is included because it is still 
possible for users to use it, albeit with significant restrictions (that have 
been imposed after the original implementation).

It is not wise to read significance into these circumstances. 

⁣David T. ​

On Nov 30, 2022, 11:40 AM, at 11:40 AM, aeg via gnucash-user 
 wrote:
>It's interesting to note that Alpha Vantage is still recommended to
>GnuCash users and is available to some, as it stopped working for me a
>few weeks ago. When I contacted the Alpha Vantage Team, I was told that
>I needed to contribute to the premium plan, at a minimum cost of 49.99
>USD per month, despite the fact that I've only been using the service
>once per week to retrieve 5 stock price updates. How are others still
>able to use the service free of charge?
>I'm based in the UK, so I'd be interested to know how other UK users
>obtain updates to their stock prices.
>Regards,AlanG
>
>
>
>   
>Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 15:24:16 -0600
>From: R Losey 
>
>
>Alphavantage is now the default, and you have to get a free ID to use
>the
>service (there is information regarding how to acquire an ID).
>
>Be aware, though -- Alphavantage adds a one-minute delay for each set
>of
>five stocks you update. (That is, five stocks will take seconds, but
>six
>stocks will take over a minute).
>
>I changed to what David suggested for my stock updates. I would prefer
>to
>have Multiple, but not use Alphavantage, but that doesn't seem to be an
>option at present.
>
>
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Re: [GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-30 Thread Martin Booth via gnucash-user
 Hi Alan,I am also UK based and you need to check the following.
You have a valid free Alpha Vantage API key setup in preferences for on-line 
quotes
You have the latest on-line stock retrieval at least Finance::Quote: 1.53 
otherwise your quotes will not download (this is probably the issue as Alpha 
Vantage changed the retrieval requirements and the F::Q needed an update.)

Check you have set your on-line quotes to retrieve from Yahoo as JSON in 
Security Editor for stock quotes. This works fine for me.
 
Then you should be fine.
You did not say which OS you are running or the GNU Cash version with F::Q 
version, therefore depending upon OS the updates to F::Q are different.
I hope this helps.

regards,Martin


On Wednesday, 30 November 2022 at 08:40:48 GMT, aeg via gnucash-user 
 wrote:  
 
  It's interesting to note that Alpha Vantage is still recommended to GnuCash 
users and is available to some, as it stopped working for me a few weeks ago. 
When I contacted the Alpha Vantage Team, I was told that I needed to contribute 
to the premium plan, at a minimum cost of 49.99 USD per month, despite the fact 
that I've only been using the service once per week to retrieve 5 stock price 
updates. How are others still able to use the service free of charge?
I'm based in the UK, so I'd be interested to know how other UK users obtain 
updates to their stock prices.
Regards,AlanG



  
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 15:24:16 -0600
From: R Losey 


Alphavantage is now the default, and you have to get a free ID to use the
service (there is information regarding how to acquire an ID).

Be aware, though -- Alphavantage adds a one-minute delay for each set of
five stocks you update. (That is, five stocks will take seconds, but six
stocks will take over a minute).

I changed to what David suggested for my stock updates. I would prefer to
have Multiple, but not use Alphavantage, but that doesn't seem to be an
option at present.


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Re: [GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-30 Thread aeg via gnucash-user
 It's interesting to note that Alpha Vantage is still recommended to GnuCash 
users and is available to some, as it stopped working for me a few weeks ago. 
When I contacted the Alpha Vantage Team, I was told that I needed to contribute 
to the premium plan, at a minimum cost of 49.99 USD per month, despite the fact 
that I've only been using the service once per week to retrieve 5 stock price 
updates. How are others still able to use the service free of charge?
I'm based in the UK, so I'd be interested to know how other UK users obtain 
updates to their stock prices.
Regards,AlanG



   
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 15:24:16 -0600
From: R Losey 


Alphavantage is now the default, and you have to get a free ID to use the
service (there is information regarding how to acquire an ID).

Be aware, though -- Alphavantage adds a one-minute delay for each set of
five stocks you update. (That is, five stocks will take seconds, but six
stocks will take over a minute).

I changed to what David suggested for my stock updates. I would prefer to
have Multiple, but not use Alphavantage, but that doesn't seem to be an
option at present.


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Re: [GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-28 Thread R Losey
Alphavantage is now the default, and you have to get a free ID to use the
service (there is information regarding how to acquire an ID).

Be aware, though -- Alphavantage adds a one-minute delay for each set of
five stocks you update. (That is, five stocks will take seconds, but six
stocks will take over a minute).

I changed to what David suggested for my stock updates. I would prefer to
have Multiple, but not use Alphavantage, but that doesn't seem to be an
option at present.


On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 9:57 AM David Carlson 
wrote:

> For securities traded on U. S. Exchanges it usually works well to use Yahoo
> as JSON as your source.
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:17 AM James Baxter via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
>
> > When I go for the stock prices, I get a, Cant get stock prices.  I when
> to
> > the where the stock/tickers are. As I edited three of them. As I notice
> > they are going/looking at Alphavantage, US.  so I did something wrong or
> > not.
> > ThanksJames baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com
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Re: [GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-28 Thread David Carlson
For securities traded on U. S. Exchanges it usually works well to use Yahoo
as JSON as your source.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 8:17 AM James Baxter via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> When I go for the stock prices, I get a, Cant get stock prices.  I when to
> the where the stock/tickers are. As I edited three of them. As I notice
> they are going/looking at Alphavantage, US.  so I did something wrong or
> not.
> ThanksJames baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com
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[GNC] getting price quotes

2022-11-28 Thread James Baxter via gnucash-user
When I go for the stock prices, I get a, Cant get stock prices.  I when to the 
where the stock/tickers are. As I edited three of them. As I notice they are 
going/looking at Alphavantage, US.  so I did something wrong or not.
ThanksJames baxterkangaro...@yahoo.com
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