Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
It wasn't the sync. It was my "work flow" which always included a saveas to a remote drive for backup (obviously redundant along with my 2 other automated backup routines). That process (whichI will no longer perform!) was removing/retaining the .lck file in a way that my next file opening didn't like. So I think with all your help (including the clearly written explanation of the file .lck process, I think the problem is gone - for now. On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 8:46 AM Jack Slater wrote: > Now that’s a possibility. I’ll look into and reply back soon. > > > On Nov 8, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Liz wrote: > > > > On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 13:57:29 +1000 > > David H wrote: > > > >> Perhaps another thing to consider is are you using any sort of syncing > >> software that could possibly be copying this LCK back from a backup > >> location after Gnucash has deleted it ? > >> > >> Cheers David H. > > > > If so, set the software not to copy the *.LCK and the *.LNK as well as > > the *.log files. > > > > I use a complex system of syncing to allow me to use the laptop for > > Gnucash when away from home and have all the data automatically updated > > to the primary copy on the laptop. > > > > Liz > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Now that’s a possibility. I’ll look into and reply back soon. > On Nov 8, 2020, at 12:51 AM, Liz wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 13:57:29 +1000 > David H wrote: > >> Perhaps another thing to consider is are you using any sort of syncing >> software that could possibly be copying this LCK back from a backup >> location after Gnucash has deleted it ? >> >> Cheers David H. > > If so, set the software not to copy the *.LCK and the *.LNK as well as > the *.log files. > > I use a complex system of syncing to allow me to use the laptop for > Gnucash when away from home and have all the data automatically updated > to the primary copy on the laptop. > > Liz > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 13:57:29 +1000 David H wrote: > Perhaps another thing to consider is are you using any sort of syncing > software that could possibly be copying this LCK back from a backup > location after Gnucash has deleted it ? > > Cheers David H. If so, set the software not to copy the *.LCK and the *.LNK as well as the *.log files. I use a complex system of syncing to allow me to use the laptop for Gnucash when away from home and have all the data automatically updated to the primary copy on the laptop. Liz ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Perhaps another thing to consider is are you using any sort of syncing software that could possibly be copying this LCK back from a backup location after Gnucash has deleted it ? Cheers David H. On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 at 11:43, Greg Feneis wrote: > IIUC, when a user opens a .gnucash file with GnuCash, EG foo.gnucash is > opened, GnuCash creates an additional file in the same folder, as a signal > that this file is open and being modified. This is the lock file. The lock > file will have the same file name plus LCK extension. EG foo.LCK for when > foo.gnucash is opened. > > Before GnuCash opens the file, it looks for a file that starts with the > file name you asked it to open and ends with .LCK. If it finds this file, > it gives the warning about difficulty obtaining a lock. In this case, > GnuCash thinks the file you're trying to open is already open and being > edited. > > Knowing this, a potential work around for Windows users (perhaps others?) > until the software is corrected: When the user is finished using GnuCash, > save and close per usual. If the file saved correctly and GnuCash closed > correctly, the file that ends .LCK should have also been deleted (lock > released). Confirm that it was deleted by opening the folder location > where the .gnucash file is stored and look for files that end with .LCK. > If a .LCK file is found, delete it. > > With no .LCK file present, the next time GnuCash tries to open the .gnucash > file, the user won't get the obtaining lock message. > > Kind regards, > > Greg Feneis > > > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 2:10 PM Jack Slater wrote: > > > 1 - I really appreciate this software. > > 2 - I realize that in my haste I may not initially include all > > pertinent details with my questions. > > 3 - I do appreciate all those that try to help. > > 4 - Users don't appreciate comments with this tone: > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/condescending > > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael or Penny Novack < > > stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > On 11/7/2020 9:32 AM, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I know (and mainly agree with) all that, I am a fully fledged > > > > (well, ancient) chartered software engineer with lots of letters both > > > > before and after my name if necessary. > > > > > > > > I was just trying to aim my comment at non-computer people and, > > > > anyway, it is beginning to drift away from the original issue. > > > > > > > I was just trying to clarify -- non-computer people should not try to > > > use an alpha version even if they really really need that new feature. > > > It would be asking for trouble. I, or you, would automatically know > what > > > we would have to do to make it safer. They do not. > > > > > > Michael D Novack > > > > > > > > > -- > > > There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the > > > equality of the grave. > > > > > > ___ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > - > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
IIUC, when a user opens a .gnucash file with GnuCash, EG foo.gnucash is opened, GnuCash creates an additional file in the same folder, as a signal that this file is open and being modified. This is the lock file. The lock file will have the same file name plus LCK extension. EG foo.LCK for when foo.gnucash is opened. Before GnuCash opens the file, it looks for a file that starts with the file name you asked it to open and ends with .LCK. If it finds this file, it gives the warning about difficulty obtaining a lock. In this case, GnuCash thinks the file you're trying to open is already open and being edited. Knowing this, a potential work around for Windows users (perhaps others?) until the software is corrected: When the user is finished using GnuCash, save and close per usual. If the file saved correctly and GnuCash closed correctly, the file that ends .LCK should have also been deleted (lock released). Confirm that it was deleted by opening the folder location where the .gnucash file is stored and look for files that end with .LCK. If a .LCK file is found, delete it. With no .LCK file present, the next time GnuCash tries to open the .gnucash file, the user won't get the obtaining lock message. Kind regards, Greg Feneis On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 2:10 PM Jack Slater wrote: > 1 - I really appreciate this software. > 2 - I realize that in my haste I may not initially include all > pertinent details with my questions. > 3 - I do appreciate all those that try to help. > 4 - Users don't appreciate comments with this tone: > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/condescending > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael or Penny Novack < > stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > On 11/7/2020 9:32 AM, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > Yes, I know (and mainly agree with) all that, I am a fully fledged > > > (well, ancient) chartered software engineer with lots of letters both > > > before and after my name if necessary. > > > > > > I was just trying to aim my comment at non-computer people and, > > > anyway, it is beginning to drift away from the original issue. > > > > > I was just trying to clarify -- non-computer people should not try to > > use an alpha version even if they really really need that new feature. > > It would be asking for trouble. I, or you, would automatically know what > > we would have to do to make it safer. They do not. > > > > Michael D Novack > > > > > > -- > > There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the > > equality of the grave. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
1 - I really appreciate this software. 2 - I realize that in my haste I may not initially include all pertinent details with my questions. 3 - I do appreciate all those that try to help. 4 - Users don't appreciate comments with this tone: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/condescending On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 11/7/2020 9:32 AM, Chris Green wrote: > > > Yes, I know (and mainly agree with) all that, I am a fully fledged > > (well, ancient) chartered software engineer with lots of letters both > > before and after my name if necessary. > > > > I was just trying to aim my comment at non-computer people and, > > anyway, it is beginning to drift away from the original issue. > > > I was just trying to clarify -- non-computer people should not try to > use an alpha version even if they really really need that new feature. > It would be asking for trouble. I, or you, would automatically know what > we would have to do to make it safer. They do not. > > Michael D Novack > > > -- > There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the > equality of the grave. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Version: 4.2 Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26) File format is default - .gnucash File saved in User (Jack)/Documents/GnuCash/ Now with all these details (unless someone needs something else) I'm hoping for a resolution for me - non-computer user that I am. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:46 PM David Carlson wrote: > Jack, > > While I am sure that you are correct that you are using the latest > version, it helps the rest of us if you copy the version and build numbers > from your Help > About as sometimes there are multiple builds for some > OS's. In addition it is helpful if you also mention what file format your > data file is in, and if you store it anywhere other than in a subfolder of > your User folder on your C: drive. > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:34 PM Jack Slater wrote: > >> I will add that I'm using Windows 10. >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:27 PM Jack Slater >> wrote: >> >> > Thanks for this! >> > >> > Some of what you're detailing in tech terms is above my pay grade (mysql >> > etc). But I AM savvy enough to know that when I post "latest version", >> that >> > I have checked the versioning number to confirm that my latest update >> is in >> > fact the latest update. >> > >> > So I support your suggestion that this has happened since the "latest" >> > update. I'd be glad to provide anything more if needed but this is a >> long >> > running bug it seems. >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 8:29 AM jvernice wrote: >> > >> >> Since the latest update to GC (Version: 4.2 Build ID: >> 4.2+(2020-09-26)), >> >> I am >> >> also getting the "cannot obtain lock" error. I don't believe that it >> has >> >> anything to do with file permissions or storage issues. It is >> happening >> >> with XML files as well as with mysql. It is not consistent and I >> always >> >> exit cleanly. When I ignore the message it saves or updates >> correctly. I >> >> do get a little nervous about this warning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sent from: >> >> http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html >> >> ___ >> >> gnucash-user mailing list >> >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> >> - >> >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >> >> > >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > -- > David Carlson > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
On 11/7/2020 9:32 AM, Chris Green wrote: Yes, I know (and mainly agree with) all that, I am a fully fledged (well, ancient) chartered software engineer with lots of letters both before and after my name if necessary. I was just trying to aim my comment at non-computer people and, anyway, it is beginning to drift away from the original issue. I was just trying to clarify -- non-computer people should not try to use an alpha version even if they really really need that new feature. It would be asking for trouble. I, or you, would automatically know what we would have to do to make it safer. They do not. Michael D Novack -- There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the equality of the grave. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 09:04:47AM -0500, Michael or Penny Novack wrote: > > > No to mention that there are very often (nearly always?) at least > > three 'latest versions' for Open Source software:- > > > > The latest stable, general release, version > > > > The latest beta version, for 'ordinary users' to test, or even use > > if it works well for them > > > > The latest 'cutting edge' direct from the software developers, > > often people will use this if it happens to have a new feature > > they 'really, really' need. > > > Close. Let me add my two cents. > > Beta: Use this IF needing some new feature. But be prepared for possible > problems. Report any problems to the developers. not the user list UNLESS > the sort of subtle problem that at first glace looks OK but really isn't (in > that case might also want to put a warning post on the users' list). Also > might ASK on the users' list "any other beta users seeing what I am seeing?" > > Alpha: Here is where I disagree somewhat with the post above. Only dedicates > testers committing to seeking out and reporting problems to the developers > should be using alpha. An end user doing this needs to have some experience > testing software and when seeing something wrong not just giving a vague > report but playing around a bit to be able to tell the developers WHAT > gnucash seems to be doing wrong, not just "doing ti wrong". > > Thus an end user whose motivation is "new feature I really really > need" needs ALSO to have that testing experience. Otherwise you are putting > your "production data" at risk. Alpha versions are expected to (still) be > buggy. It would probably be OK for me to risk an alpha, but I'm retired from > a few decades spent in the cypher mines. > Yes, I know (and mainly agree with) all that, I am a fully fledged (well, ancient) chartered software engineer with lots of letters both before and after my name if necessary. I was just trying to aim my comment at non-computer people and, anyway, it is beginning to drift away from the original issue. -- Chris Green ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
No to mention that there are very often (nearly always?) at least three 'latest versions' for Open Source software:- The latest stable, general release, version The latest beta version, for 'ordinary users' to test, or even use if it works well for them The latest 'cutting edge' direct from the software developers, often people will use this if it happens to have a new feature they 'really, really' need. Close. Let me add my two cents. Beta: Use this IF needing some new feature. But be prepared for possible problems. Report any problems to the developers. not the user list UNLESS the sort of subtle problem that at first glace looks OK but really isn't (in that case might also want to put a warning post on the users' list). Also might ASK on the users' list "any other beta users seeing what I am seeing?" Alpha: Here is where I disagree somewhat with the post above. Only dedicates testers committing to seeking out and reporting problems to the developers should be using alpha. An end user doing this needs to have some experience testing software and when seeing something wrong not just giving a vague report but playing around a bit to be able to tell the developers WHAT gnucash seems to be doing wrong, not just "doing ti wrong". Thus an end user whose motivation is "new feature I really really need" needs ALSO to have that testing experience. Otherwise you are putting your "production data" at risk. Alpha versions are expected to (still) be buggy. It would probably be OK for me to risk an alpha, but I'm retired from a few decades spent in the cypher mines. Michael D Novack -- There is no possibility of social justice on a dead planet except the equality of the grave. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 04:45:54PM -0600, David Carlson wrote: > Jack, > > While I am sure that you are correct that you are using the latest version, > it helps the rest of us if you copy the version and build numbers from your > Help > About as sometimes there are multiple builds for some OS's. In > addition it is helpful if you also mention what file format your data file > is in, and if you store it anywhere other than in a subfolder of your User > folder on your C: drive. > No to mention that there are very often (nearly always?) at least three 'latest versions' for Open Source software:- The latest stable, general release, version The latest beta version, for 'ordinary users' to test, or even use if it works well for them The latest 'cutting edge' direct from the software developers, often people will use this if it happens to have a new feature they 'really, really' need. -- Chris Green ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Jack, While I am sure that you are correct that you are using the latest version, it helps the rest of us if you copy the version and build numbers from your Help > About as sometimes there are multiple builds for some OS's. In addition it is helpful if you also mention what file format your data file is in, and if you store it anywhere other than in a subfolder of your User folder on your C: drive. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:34 PM Jack Slater wrote: > I will add that I'm using Windows 10. > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:27 PM Jack Slater wrote: > > > Thanks for this! > > > > Some of what you're detailing in tech terms is above my pay grade (mysql > > etc). But I AM savvy enough to know that when I post "latest version", > that > > I have checked the versioning number to confirm that my latest update is > in > > fact the latest update. > > > > So I support your suggestion that this has happened since the "latest" > > update. I'd be glad to provide anything more if needed but this is a > long > > running bug it seems. > > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 8:29 AM jvernice wrote: > > > >> Since the latest update to GC (Version: 4.2 Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26)), > >> I am > >> also getting the "cannot obtain lock" error. I don't believe that it > has > >> anything to do with file permissions or storage issues. It is happening > >> with XML files as well as with mysql. It is not consistent and I always > >> exit cleanly. When I ignore the message it saves or updates > correctly. I > >> do get a little nervous about this warning. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from: > >> http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > >> ___ > >> gnucash-user mailing list > >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > >> - > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >> > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
I will add that I'm using Windows 10. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:27 PM Jack Slater wrote: > Thanks for this! > > Some of what you're detailing in tech terms is above my pay grade (mysql > etc). But I AM savvy enough to know that when I post "latest version", that > I have checked the versioning number to confirm that my latest update is in > fact the latest update. > > So I support your suggestion that this has happened since the "latest" > update. I'd be glad to provide anything more if needed but this is a long > running bug it seems. > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 8:29 AM jvernice wrote: > >> Since the latest update to GC (Version: 4.2 Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26)), >> I am >> also getting the "cannot obtain lock" error. I don't believe that it has >> anything to do with file permissions or storage issues. It is happening >> with XML files as well as with mysql. It is not consistent and I always >> exit cleanly. When I ignore the message it saves or updates correctly. I >> do get a little nervous about this warning. >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: >> http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Thanks for this! Some of what you're detailing in tech terms is above my pay grade (mysql etc). But I AM savvy enough to know that when I post "latest version", that I have checked the versioning number to confirm that my latest update is in fact the latest update. So I support your suggestion that this has happened since the "latest" update. I'd be glad to provide anything more if needed but this is a long running bug it seems. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 8:29 AM jvernice wrote: > Since the latest update to GC (Version: 4.2 Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26)), I > am > also getting the "cannot obtain lock" error. I don't believe that it has > anything to do with file permissions or storage issues. It is happening > with XML files as well as with mysql. It is not consistent and I always > exit cleanly. When I ignore the message it saves or updates correctly. I > do get a little nervous about this warning. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Since the latest update to GC (Version: 4.2 Build ID: 4.2+(2020-09-26)), I am also getting the "cannot obtain lock" error. I don't believe that it has anything to do with file permissions or storage issues. It is happening with XML files as well as with mysql. It is not consistent and I always exit cleanly. When I ignore the message it saves or updates correctly. I do get a little nervous about this warning. -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
I have the same problem and it did start after the last update Sent from my iPhone XS Sent from my iPhone XS > On Nov 5, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Jack Slater wrote: > > Sorry forgot to add that. I'm on latest - and really I think it started > after the last update. > > > >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 8:42 PM Stan Brown >> wrote: >> Or has it already been fixed after all? Jack didn't say which version >> he's using, I think, so maybe he has a version before the fix was applied. >> -- >> Stan Brown >> Tehachapi, CA, USA >> https://BrownMath.com >> https://OakRoadSystems.com >>> On 2020-11-04 18:38, Stan Brown wrote: >>> Didn't we have a long discussion a couple of months back about improving >>> this message? I may be remembering wrong, but I thought the improvements >>> were going to be in the next version. >>> This seems to be the single most common query about GnuCash. Surely, >>> after living with it at least since version 2, it's time to change the >>> text to something more helpful to users. >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Hi, "latest" is no version. Without OS/Distri and Gnucash version we have no clue, what you are using. In the current version the only file with "lock" in messages is https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/maint/gnucash/gnome-utils/gnc-file.c I seen no occurrence of "lock" where no explanation follows. Regards Frank Am 05.11.20 um 19:52 schrieb AlanMagnus: > I think it did cause I have the same problem. > >> On 5 Nov 2020, at 13:24, Jack Slater wrote: >> >> Sorry forgot to add that. I'm on latest - and really I think it started >> after the last update. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 8:42 PM Stan Brown >> wrote: >> >>> Or has it already been fixed after all? Jack didn't say which version >>> he's using, I think, so maybe he has a version before the fix was applied. >>> >>> -- >>> Stan Brown : ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
I think it did cause I have the same problem. > On 5 Nov 2020, at 13:24, Jack Slater wrote: > > Sorry forgot to add that. I'm on latest - and really I think it started > after the last update. > > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 8:42 PM Stan Brown > wrote: > >> Or has it already been fixed after all? Jack didn't say which version >> he's using, I think, so maybe he has a version before the fix was applied. >> >> -- >> Stan Brown >> Tehachapi, CA, USA >> https://BrownMath.com >> https://OakRoadSystems.com >> >> On 2020-11-04 18:38, Stan Brown wrote: >>> Didn't we have a long discussion a couple of months back about improving >>> this message? I may be remembering wrong, but I thought the improvements >>> were going to be in the next version. >>> >>> This seems to be the single most common query about GnuCash. Surely, >>> after living with it at least since version 2, it's time to change the >>> text to something more helpful to users. >>> >> ___ >> gnucash-user mailing list >> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> - >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Sorry forgot to add that. I'm on latest - and really I think it started after the last update. On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 8:42 PM Stan Brown wrote: > Or has it already been fixed after all? Jack didn't say which version > he's using, I think, so maybe he has a version before the fix was applied. > > -- > Stan Brown > Tehachapi, CA, USA > https://BrownMath.com > https://OakRoadSystems.com > > On 2020-11-04 18:38, Stan Brown wrote: > > Didn't we have a long discussion a couple of months back about improving > > this message? I may be remembering wrong, but I thought the improvements > > were going to be in the next version. > > > > This seems to be the single most common query about GnuCash. Surely, > > after living with it at least since version 2, it's time to change the > > text to something more helpful to users. > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Yea. I know I had conversations a few years ago. On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 8:38 PM Stan Brown wrote: > Didn't we have a long discussion a couple of months back about improving > this message? I may be remembering wrong, but I thought the improvements > were going to be in the next version. > > This seems to be the single most common query about GnuCash. Surely, > after living with it at least since version 2, it's time to change the > text to something more helpful to users. > > -- > Stan Brown > Tehachapi, CA, USA > https://BrownMath.com > https://OakRoadSystems.com > > On 2020-11-04 12:28, Derek Atkins wrote: > > On Wed, November 4, 2020 3:02 pm, Jack Slater wrote: > >> I used to get this a bit a few years ago. It has reappeared. I just > >> continue to save the file anyway but I get nervous about file integrity, > >> etc. every time I see it. So what's going on and how do I stop it? > > > > Make sure you exit gnucash cleanly and that it fully quits before you > > shutdown your computer. > > > > Either that or you have a filesystem/storage problem where it can't > > actually create the lock file. > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Or has it already been fixed after all? Jack didn't say which version he's using, I think, so maybe he has a version before the fix was applied. -- Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com https://OakRoadSystems.com On 2020-11-04 18:38, Stan Brown wrote: > Didn't we have a long discussion a couple of months back about improving > this message? I may be remembering wrong, but I thought the improvements > were going to be in the next version. > > This seems to be the single most common query about GnuCash. Surely, > after living with it at least since version 2, it's time to change the > text to something more helpful to users. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Didn't we have a long discussion a couple of months back about improving this message? I may be remembering wrong, but I thought the improvements were going to be in the next version. This seems to be the single most common query about GnuCash. Surely, after living with it at least since version 2, it's time to change the text to something more helpful to users. -- Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com https://OakRoadSystems.com On 2020-11-04 12:28, Derek Atkins wrote: > On Wed, November 4, 2020 3:02 pm, Jack Slater wrote: >> I used to get this a bit a few years ago. It has reappeared. I just >> continue to save the file anyway but I get nervous about file integrity, >> etc. every time I see it. So what's going on and how do I stop it? > > Make sure you exit gnucash cleanly and that it fully quits before you > shutdown your computer. > > Either that or you have a filesystem/storage problem where it can't > actually create the lock file. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
Jack File permissions?? - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
I always save the file. Then go to File/Quit to shutdown and never turn the PC off. So what does "Either that or you have a filesystem/storage problem where it can't actually create the lock file. " mean? On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 2:28 PM Derek Atkins wrote: > HI, > > On Wed, November 4, 2020 3:02 pm, Jack Slater wrote: > > I used to get this a bit a few years ago. It has reappeared. I just > > continue to save the file anyway but I get nervous about file integrity, > > etc. every time I see it. So what's going on and how do I stop it? > > Make sure you exit gnucash cleanly and that it fully quits before you > shutdown your computer. > > Either that or you have a filesystem/storage problem where it can't > actually create the lock file. > > > Jack > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > -derek > > -- >Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 >de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com >Computer and Internet Security Consultant > > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Cannot Obtain Lock error?
HI, On Wed, November 4, 2020 3:02 pm, Jack Slater wrote: > I used to get this a bit a few years ago. It has reappeared. I just > continue to save the file anyway but I get nervous about file integrity, > etc. every time I see it. So what's going on and how do I stop it? Make sure you exit gnucash cleanly and that it fully quits before you shutdown your computer. Either that or you have a filesystem/storage problem where it can't actually create the lock file. > Jack > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
